Dyno Testing 2018 Intake Manifold On A 2011-2014 Mustang GT
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Thank you for starting the Dyno pulls around 2k. Too many videos starting them at 3k and this video demonstrates why they shouldn't
With just a roush axleback and 2018 manifold I dyno'd my 2014 gt and it was at 413whp and 374tq with the mt82
tuned with ? any new times/mods ?
im swapping my boss 302 for ported 18 👍
If you're going to do a comparison do a tune first for the baseline then change the intake. It will show even less gain and more torque loss.
They always drop the ball on that. That's how you know its marketing garbage and not real world comparisons test.
What did you guys do about the bolt on the water neck coming in contact with the manifold ? Trim the manifold? Remove the bolt ?
Do a vid on your car
Any one here running a steeda cai do I have to buy the coupler haven't installed the intake yet
I thought the 5.0 was 412 hp and IV seen other 5.0 go 432 on the Dyno stock I think this car needs a tune up or something cause it should be making like 380-390 if out the factory it was 412
What kind of numbers do you think we'll see with the intake manifold being ported?
On a stock engine porting is probably worth 5-10 hp on top of the gains from the manifold, itself. You'd see much bigger gains with cams, headers, boost, ect.
A solid tune on the baseline engine would've likely revealed similar results. I'm not sure I see that advantage.
Lee Spector Same thinking here. And they revved it out farther as well.
At least this is more stock then most of these kind of vids....seems like most "stock" testing have long tube headers, bigger injectors, catless system, etc..prolly $3500 in performance mods before installing this.
the 18 manifold pushes more power through the upper rpm, the stock manifold does not do this as it tops out power at 6500 rpm. Take it from someone who did the swap onto their s197, the car pulls like a frieght train after 6600 rpm and all the way through until around 7400 or so.
xXDrxSchnitzelXx is it just a simple bolt-unbolt process? Or do I need supporting mods like throttle body etc??
Any video of a Holley sniper intake manifold install on a 11-14 coyote?
I'll make a video consideration and get it over to the video team! - Jude Horstman - Social Media/Events Coordinator
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Too many people talking about the "tune" if its an auto it will need it to reach the rpms this manifold is good for. Redline isnt high enough the 18 manifold will pull to 7500 or 8000 rpm, thats where power comes from.
People compare dyno number to eachother on totally different dynos, which is hillarious. Look at the curves not numbers, and if the dont cross over at 5200 ish dont believe anything.
Any four stroke motor the power is all in the heads and how much they can flow at higher rpms. Cams, intakes and to a much smaller extent exhaust change where the engine makes power. The only real way to make more power is either compression forced induction, fuel or more rpms.
Agressive cams and intakes with short runners push the power higher in the rpm range, more rpms and torque higher in the revs=more power. It may not be faster off the line with stock gearing, but geared for the powerband it will be faster.
Like some guy like me with an f150 with 35s, at 3.73 shes going to feel slower from a roll or stop and may even hit a certain point where it runs through the available rpm if the redline is stock too fast to see benefits. But throw some 4.56 gears and raise the rpm limit from 6000 to 7500 its going5 to be much quicker from a stop as well as from a roll at cruising speed.
Cars and trucks are way overgeared with 2-4 overdrive gears these days for epa and cafe bullcrap. The viper had 400hp, did nearly 200mph and could run to sixty in the low 4 second range with decent traction. A pickup these days has 400hp but feels gutless and slow when it should cook the tires all the way up to 60 due to gearing neutering as well as high ass gear ratios that often cause the car to lug when accelerating if it doesnt downshit cause its running at 1600rpm and as lean as possible
What elevation was this done at? My 2012 5.0 with just a CAI, no tune made 380/370 to the wheels at sea level
The average elevation here is 450 feet above sea level.
@@latemodelrestoration interesting results.
The 2013s make 8 more hp than the 2011s and also manual trannys do better on the dyno. So transmission would have been nice to know too. An 11 and a 13 can have a 10 to difference on the dyno easy. I think this was a piss poor video 😳. You have to be more detailed.
What about just porting the gen 1 intake manifold see what you get there
because the runner length and volume of the 18 is a more advanced design allowing for higher RPM and the time for porting returns almost nothing.
is it me or did the exhaust note change?
1:25 - 2:24 comparison
Hmm...Would you guys recommend it for a daily driven 19' F150 King Ranch though?
Lund tune yes. Intake no.
I don't know if the F-150 manifold is the same from the earlier years, but the F-150 manifold makes a ton of torque more
18gt manifold on a 15+? Yes. Broader powerband
you probably would have gained the same numbers with just the tune, technically you do not need a tune on the 11 through 14 coyote because it doesn't come from the factory with IMRC . so a real comparison would have been a baseline pull, add the 18 manifold and then do another pull
strokercoupe did the swap and know for a fact that I made greats gains after 5500 RPM
You really think that? Even while knowing the 18 mani is a more stout manifold than a stock 11-14 mani?
My 13 is tuned, long tubes and cai. Can i just slap an 18 mani on it and not retune it??
@@bb5op585 no
With the amount of airflow that the gen 3 mani yields it wouldn’t be smart to throw one on without a tune. It would’ve been better if they tuned with the stock mani first.
Would’ve been nice to see what the tuned stock 11-14 manifold would’ve done in comparison up to 7500 rpm
Let’s just say that the stock manifold doesn’t do well at 7500rpm
Stock manifold dies at 6700
Correct
Agree, it should have been stock tuned and then 18 mani tuned then show results. That was not an accurate test
Ummm no wonder there are gains ya ran the 18 manifold to 6600rpms and the stock only to 6k...what the hell lol? You cant make a comparison like this with different rpms. Shouldnt you be pushing the stock manifold to the same rpms as the 18 manifold for a fair assessment?
How does this compare to a boss 302 I take manifold?
Hey Chase, we have not compared the two intake manifolds yet! But both perform great!
I’ve noticed lmr and American muscle always have low dyno readings sure automatic will make less rwhp vs the 6 speed but a 2011-2012 Mustang gt 6 speed should make 373-380rwhp plenty of videos also on TH-cam proving it stock numbers
American muscle almost always uses 87 for their baselines so their “gains” alway seem higher than they actually are when they switch over to 93 after they do the kids and tune. LMR must have a low reading dyno though.
first a 2011-2012 will not make 373-380rwhp stock. a 2013-2014 will probably be just under those numbers. they have low dyno numbers because they use the lowest octane for the base line to make the upgrade with a tune that much higher with 93 octane/
did the stock manifold have a tune from lund as well? If not what numbers can we expect with stock 2011 manifold with tune?
No, the car had a factory tune with the stock manifold. With a stock manifold and aftermarket tune, you can probably expect 15 HP and 10 lb-ft/tq. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration Have you installed the gt350 intake on S197? If so, any results? Curious since the mach1 has it and has 480hp
@@GolfBert No, we have not. We have only installed the 18+ manifold on the S197.
I have been considering upgrading the manifold on my 2012 GT but most of the intakes are not emissions legal here in CA! Would a 2018 Manifold on an earlier coyote mustang pass emissions?
Naw bro you gonna have to dirty smog it or return it to stock
If that is the case, then none of the aftermarket intakes are legal for these cars...
It’s all legal !!!
376 with Lund tune and 18 manifold wow that’s underwhelming, I have a rebuild 2011 with same compression as stock with stock cams and a bbk throttle body, airaid intake, and bama tune that made 404hp and 388tq through a 6R80.
Thats pretty Good with just those mods! im fixing on going FBOs by the end of March with a Lund Tune on my 14 GT 6r80 as well😶
@@kendrickgonzalez7919 how r u getting ahold of a nguage if there discontinued?
@@Dompass1999 I bought one last year and now I'm FBOs
Best gainers are a no-cat x-pipe and tune. That’s all my cars has, aside from Roush axle backs. 406/400 to wheels with the 3.31 gears and the MT82 in 5th gear. 2013 with 75000 miles.
@warriorpluto with 18 mani, i shift at 7800. i'm full bolt on including long tubes and i wouldn't recommend taking it up anywhere near as high with stock manifold
Cap
your using the stock throttle body with the 18 manifold and 91/93 octane? if so i dont see how your making 406/400 wheel with just a catless X pipe and tune.
My coyote made 391HP & 375lbs of torque
Whats your setup?
Dude you’d think I was lying lol. I’m stock with just a x pipe & mufflers. I guess the person working on my coyote was happy that day lol
@@bijoncallum8801 catted x or nah? Lol
@@AnkerBanker123 regular x catted
BigDogs Porting
Didnt remap the stock set up 1st. Then they made 2 changes . Timing early...... apples to apples please
1:25 - 2:24
As usual you guys make a mod and install a tune at the same time, which masks any gains or losses of the mod. Just do the mod and run the dam thing on the dyno then add the tune.
And only got 20whp from a tune and manifold. Pretty sure a tune alone should get you around 30whp. Lol.
When you do a mod like an intake Manifold you have to do a tune or your air fuel ratio will be wank. Which will make your car run like crap.
To be fair you might not want to go WOT on the dyno with the different manifold and no tune
Without the tune the ratios are out of synch. Say you super charge the car and run it without a tune, good luck and hopefully you got money for a new engine
@@leonardoolvera11 Well the DIDN'T put a Supercharger on did they. It was a stock style manifold. They could have left the stock manifold on, put a tune in and still got an easy 20 hp
Why would you test the intake and the tube at the sane time? Hacks!
Hmm seems like tune added more power not the manifold
Bryan Zamora you have to look at peak power. Stock manifold dies at like 6,700 RPMs and the 18 climbs and holds off at 7,500.
I know for a fact that the 18 mani is much better than the stock manifold. The cars pulls like freight train up top
John Matthew it’s not, it sounds like you don’t understand these cars and actual physics. The manifold is designed for huge power gains in the upper RPM. Quit being a clown. Fbo application with the 18 manifold helps gen 1 coyotes reach 440 rwhp on a mustang dyno.
John Matthew You know nothing my friend
@@xxdrxschnitzelxx131 everyone is agreeing that the tune did 99% percent of the job. Come on dude they're selling yall advertise numbers same with cold air intakes in n/a cars they're useless unless you're running boost same with the manifolds. The best n/a manifold is the cobra jet n/a setups and the rest are irrelevant. Also a manifold isn't going to net you 440whp that's with other bolt ons . Also the gen1 coyote manifold is more than enough , you wont see any gains until 7400-7800 which isn't a good idea if you dont have a built sleeve and heads. If you believe they're alot better than the stock gen1 for street application or even drag application you're delusional. This is why they make so much money off u guys to tamper with the dyno numbers to make it seem like it's worth the 400$ in which it's not at all same with those so called open element cai air intakes in which they're short ram intakes since it's not sucking in cool air it only gives u the effect of feeling faster because of quicker throttle response and noise and their little dyno numbers if u get a tune with the stock air box itll be 1-2 hp lower than a short ram intake which again isn't worth the 300 bucks. Samething can be said about the 18 manifolds. The tune is what you're feeling. You can throw full exhaust on the but if you dont tune it what gain are you going to get 0.
Terrible example of swapping a part. Base line vs changing two variables 🙄
Thanks for saving me $500. This mod is USELESS. Who needs a tiny gain across a few hundred rpm? Either this manifold is useless on a 2011-2014 5.0 or the tune was awful. Likely both.
48 torque gain at 2300 rpm is huge what are you talking about? that will definitely be felt. you cant get those gains with a boss intake on a 11-14 GT.
Can you put a 2020 mani on a 2011 automatic gt?
Hi Manny, all 18-21 manifolds are the same design, so it'll work on your build.