Lazio Has A Disgraceful Problem.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2023
- today we talk about the disgraces of lazio's ultras and briefly all of italy's ultra culture
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TH-cam had an extremely dumb change which now means even saying a “non family friendly” word a few too many times can get you demonitized. As a result this vid has a decent amount of censors, so sorry bout that. I hate it.
No worries bro
So just the word "racism" is now bad? Fuck youtube man
Funny how TH-cam claims they care about fighting Racism, but when someone releases a video vilifying someone for it, TH-cam says that’s inappropriate. Funny indeed.
God I hate TH-cam...
No need to apologize bro.TH-cam can be bad place.Btw what happened to your Arsenal vid coz it disappeared?
As an italian I can guarantee you nothing will be done, it's a country issue not just a sport one. The majority of people do not care 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sinha010 imagine being such a loser that you hate somebody because of something they were born with and can't change.
@@Sinha010 cringe
@@llloyd9589 Are you following my comments? Now that's cringe.
@@Sinha010 your comments pop on my TH-cam Notis and you are a fascinating individual and a idiotic one too
@@Sinha010 is dumb more than cringe
small club HJK Helsinki was fined over 100k (i think) for chanting that UEFA is a mafia while Lazio gets fined way less for way worse. it is a disgrace.
lol
A referee got excluded due to "racism" for saying a player was black while identifying after giving him a yellow card
Warsaw fans being rebellious towards uefa Chanted “UEFA is Taliban" where banned for 3 matches while lazio got fined for only 1000 for attacking a jewish player
Fun fact: In 2015 (I think) during a Grêmio x Santos game, racist chants broke out from Grêmio supporters aimed at Santos's GK Aranha. The result: Grêmio was EXCLUDED from Copa do Brasil.
Leagues should do this more often, instant relegation.
They should of been awarded the cup.
"torcida" = 3 pessoas kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
what are they supposed to do? exlcude the whole league? every team in italy has racist fans. Not only that but they are often connected to the owners and presidents of clubs. You cant penalise one or two teams for something the majority of italian society is guilty off. How can they give a fuck about racism if they are all racists.
@@incognita112 Just ban them from European competitions
@@benitolazio8193 i should be given an award because i fucked your mom
TH-cam: We care about fighting Racism
Also TH-cam: Don’t you dare talk about or say the word Racism or else we will punish you.
Good video Maxwell
I cant believe that someone can get in trouble for saying a word like “racism”. Im sick of this child friendly thing
TH-cam are the masters of making the worst policies each time they make policies worse than the last one .
It is smart that they make it punishibale for mentioning racism. We shouldn't give it attention so we make it meaningless
Pootube
Way too many kids use this app and honestly they get recommended some weird shit so I can understand TH-cam’s reasoning, but this is wayyy too much. Censoring bad words is one thing but just censoring words is dumb asf.
The levels of irony in Lazio having "SS" infront of their name.
At this poinit, I doubt it's Irony that they keep it
the SS stands for Società Sportiva
@@strasbourgsteve I know the SS doesn't really stand for a certain German thing.
It's just ironic out of every alphabet in existence,they got "SS" and also just happen to have fascist ultras💀
SS Nazio
If you want more irony, a descendent of Mussolini plays for them as well
It is sad that yt forces content creators to censor themselves so MUCH. This kind of serious topic should be discussed without censorship.
The fact that this is not even the worst club when it comes to this is remarkable. BTW, that title would go to Beiter Jerusalem.
The irony!
why s beiter jerusalem so r@cist?
TH-cam's rules are so shameful that you can't even say some words in videos. Doesn't matter if you're condemning the actions, you just can't say it.
In a few years we'll only see videos in sign language at this rate.
@@mavericu_ which is an awful thing for all sides (even the advertisers that youtube are so trying to help) edit: bruh
hilarious , the left ALWAYS destroys itself.
@@benitolazio8193 So does much of the far-right, what's your point
I have a black friend and co-worker that recently went to Italy. He said he couldn't cut his hair in the time he was there, because every place he went to, the barber gave an excuse like "we are about to close", but after an hour my friend could see through the windows that they were still open and cutting other people's hair. I'm pretty sure this is only a minority in Italy, but there's definetely a big problem regarding those matters there.
That is really fucking dumb.
Unfortunately it's not, I think many people forget (especially here in europe) which side the italians were on during WW2 (obviously not all italians are racists and honestly it wasn't just the italians), it's not something they even really mention in schools and in most european countries people of color will encounter not so subtle racism. Fascism and racism througout history is censored especially that which took place more recently, it's uncomfortable so people don't talk about it which allows the problem grow and because the majority of people here haven't experienced it there's a belief that it's no longer a problem
Italy is the most racist country in Western Europe
I don't see a problem. The problem is that your friend was there and the people don't want him there.
@@Sinha010 they’re just racists and so are you people like are rotten spot in this beautiful sport and world
Thank you for putting so much effort into these videos. I really appreciate how you cover football controversies and serious topics and not just the entertainment aspect of it all.
Btw, the same thing happens in Argentinean football, specially if we're talking about Boca Juniors. In every game against Brazilian teams in Libertadores there is a HUGE part of crowd that makes monkey noises towards players (in fact last year, a guy was arrested during a Boca Juniors x Corinthians game, but was released on bail after the occurred, just to make a racist post again on Instagram mere minutes after leaving the PD. Ironically, Corinthians eliminated Boca Juniors.)
This happens with many others teams in Argentina and South America, you can't judge a team based on some idiot hooligans
@@sklss except with Boca Juniors. We can absolutely put them in the same level as Lazio.
@@matheuscruz19 I'm not a Boca fan, honestly you seem very biased against them
@@matheuscruz19 Lazio is a team with actual historical fascist roots and connections. Boca Juniors are not on that level at all.
@@BIadelores and yet, they behave like that.
Lazio history is literally connected to the Brown-Shirts and was considered Mussolini's favorite club.
This shouldn't really be a surprise at all.
Also I think we really forgot fast how Serie A tried to "counter racism" with monkey graphic art💀☠
Lazio literally had the fascist symbol on their logo in the 30s and 40s
Based
I thought Roma was Mussolini's favorit club
That's not true considering Mussolini founded Roma
@@VelikiDim cringe
As an Italian, i have to say it. We have a problem with racism
That’s still a massive understatement too
@@bababababababa6124 The old generations are the problem
@@bababababababa6124 I mean you don’t see cops brutally murdering black people in Italy 😂😂 But yes we are racist
@@consistencyiskey267 okay and that somehow makes it better? It’s not a competition 😐also sounds like you are proud of it or something
@@bababababababa6124 I never said it was a competition I just think it’s a pretty minor problem compared to other countries in the world where racism is prevalent. But assume whatever you want, you people love to play victim 👍
As a Lazio supporter, I would like to make a few considerations.
I live in Rome and, in my very personal experience, most of the laziali i know are not absolutely right-wing, nor extremists. I have also met far-right Lazio supporters and the problem becomes more evident in the stadium, but from my direct experience I can say that they are a minority (it is an opinion that derives from my experiences, it can easily be contradicted).
The problem can be identified in two factors: the Italian culture and the ultras mentality. The ultras are extremists by definition, they experience strong ingroup dynamics and try to identify themselves in the most radicalized political ideologies. Without taking anything away from the Lazio ultras, and I state that I repudiate fascism and strongly condemn it, it makes no sense to "hate Lazio" because of the ultras (as many people say) because the ultras are only a possible manifestation of human behavior, and they are very similar in all teams.
The founding values of the club, inspired by the Olympic spirit, differ greatly from the thinking of these people.
I am sorry to contradict the Roma fans who think they are distant from these facts, because even if it makes less of a stir, some Roma ultras have often made equally deplorable gestures, such as writing "Laziale Jew" in front of a school in Balduina, or creating Hitler stickers with a Roma jersey, or wearing T-shirts that read "roma marches again" (in reference to the march on rome). It would be logically incorrect if I stated that Roma fans are fascists: people are, and most frequently the one who define themself ultras. And they are the evil of football and society in general.
I am tired of these people who soil the highest values of sports.
I really hope, as mentioned in the video, that serie a will take more serious action on this problem.
Ehi, il ragazzo qui parla la lingua dei fatti 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Ti farei tanto di cappello se ne indossassi uno
How is that a problem
@@dakkossman2063 racist hooligans all over the country located in almost every team, i would call that a problem
Fratellino mio non va allo stadietto ahahahah
Very well written response. Thank you for your insight as a Lazio supporter
I’m Mexican and I became a AS Roma fan because of Totti. On 2016 I finally was able to buy my ticket to go and watch a game live. All I can say is that there is a big difference between those two clubs, I felt welcomed on the stadium and I did not hear anything like this on the AS Roma side.
You probably just look Italian
If u where dark skinned I’m sure ur experience would’ve been different
@@pascho1057 i dont think mexicans look like italians
@@Benji-mv8qm it depends in which section you stay, in San Siro (both Inter and Milan) there are plenty of people of African or Asian descent, in all sectors of the stadium, see, it is not properly about pure racism it is more about humiliating the opponent in the most cruel way possible. To give you another example there's jews in the curva sud verona the most nazi curva in italy, and they call "jews" the opponent, but the Jews that frequent the curva are well aware about it.
@Kwame Kimoko i dont think we will move on from that
As a Lazio fan i can confirm that, it is a sizable minority and a very vocal one unfortunately. It is not only a problem with Lazio, but with other clubs in Italy like: Hellas Verona and Inter. The problem, as Maqwell explained, is that the punishments is always too light and ineffective, i hope one day i can go to the stadium without hearing racist, fascist and anti-semitic chants from the other Lazio fans, but i doubt so
I agree with you 100% bro as a fellow Lazio supporter 👍
Exactly although it is a problem with lazio and needs rooted out I feel like we as laziale get singled out even though I believe it’s more of a Italian football problem rather than just a lazio one
Inter ultras being racist is so incredibly ironic to me since that club was founded on anti-racist values - but then again, expecting racists to have more than a single braincell is a huge stretch. I still remember our Boxing Day clash against them in 2018; Koulibaly was target of racial abuse from the ultras basically for the entire match, and when he tried to bring light to the problem the ref gave him a yellow card and sent him off due to accumulation of yellows.
Hellas Verona? Holy moly, I'd say they are even worse than Lazio. In 2019 their ultras racially abused Balotelli during their home game against Brescia, and their Twitter account basically said "what racist chants, we didn't hear anything!" And as if THAT wasn't enough, in 1996 they protested the club's decision to buy Maickel Ferrier, a black player, by hanging a racist effigy of him in their stadium end, wearing KKK robes, and unveiling a banner in Veronese telling Ferrier to go clean the stadium for them. Ah, and another thing, their ultras leader is also a figurehead of neo-Fascist organization Forza Nuova.
That being said, Lazio needs to understand the deal with the ultras and be ready do do some sacrifices in order to kick racism out of their Curva once and for all. Even my anti-racist Lazio supporter friend understands this.
@@brokenbrilliancerab6911 Well said
I honestly don’t even think it’s a minority at this point, it happens far too often
The solution? 16 games behind close doors and/or fines that go into the millions of euros. If their revenue plummets as a result of that, the clubs will fight against racism as hard as they fight against dudes who watch Salernitana vs Cagliari on footybite.
At this point, with how many incidents have happened and how they’re still happening, they should be treated like a club who is in financial crisis and be relegated to Serie B.
@@WichitaChiefSam right, docking some points from them should also help.
the club should crack down on those far-right fans and banned them from everything related to the club. Such as banning them from games.
IN ITALY EVERY CLUB MADE RACIST UH UH UH AND ORHER, BUT ONLY LAZIO IS PUNISHED
@@francescomassimi6679a zi la lazio ne fa una alla settimana sonp d'accordo che molte tifoserie in serie a sono razziste ma c'è un limite
I'm a Lazio fan, and I can confirm that in Italy a lot of clubs have the same incidents but the thing is that they are the minority of fans, and with Lazio is no exeption. Football fans are like a small society and just like a society there is always the guy who supports these stupid acts. But many people called me names refered to those acts even tho are history and fans are much more. We should learn from these things but the problem is that the italian FA doesn't do much
Exactly, Lazio are just the easy scapegoats. Anyone who follows Serie A closely knows it’s a league-wide problem.
Yeah but if it's a minority, so why the majority make them quiet once and for all ?
@@Laziale719no kid
Lazio fans are the worst
@@Laziale719 Lazio are really the worst ones. Second to Juventus
Lazio supporters are some of the most gracious, passionate, and welcoming fan bases in all of Italy. Proud Laziali
If you want a similar story you might want to dig deep into Atletico de Madrid. Hint: start with "Frente Atletico" and "Jimmy"
EDIT: you can also play a "game" that me and my friends play called "spot the taxi stoppers" in pictures of Atletico fans. You can even find some in their farewell to Luis Suarez
Has this been a long-running issue with Atleti?
The good news in Spain is that Real Madrid and Barcelona have banned their violent right-wing ultras and that unlike in Italy, there's a lot more left-wing ultra groups. The bad news is the political differences between right-wing and left-wing ultras is probably more likely to produce sporadic violence with places like Seville or Madrid being particularly hazardous due to Real Betis/Sevilla or the Atletico/Rayo Vallecano ultras
@@Eibarwoman there is not a lot of left-wing football fan groups lol specially compared to the amount of right-wing groups and more so on the bigger clubs
@@Alex-mq6qi The right-wing groups at the largest clubs (Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid, and Barca) on the other hand particularly troublingly. Atletico's is the one given free reign and unlike the ones at Real Madrid or Barca, haven't been kicked out of the premises and forced to reside in bars.
The left-wing ones are found in your less competitive clubs at least in terms of La Liga title aspirations and aren't exactly a guarantee. The Basque ones are rather troublesome in a different way with historical fondness for a defunct terror group. Football ultras in Spain to put it lightly tend to be vehicles of political extremism with left-wing ones tending to be more prone to "Abertzale/regionalist separatism" of a Marxist-Leninist type and right-wing groups of a Francoist leaning.
@@Eibarwoman yeah but that last bit is a consequence of everything in this country being overpoliticized. I still insist that most ultra groups are right-wing as opposed to left-wing and there's entire regions where no decent-sized club will have a group that's left-leaning (barr really obscure groups that are basically friend clubs lol)
Lazio has been having that problem for years. It's a problem in many other Italian clubs and government as well. Only Beitar is a little bit worse
Beitar’s new owner told them to f off
@@rochesteraviation-upthetof8162 and yet, nothing has changed or will change. Bigots won't stop because you ask them to. You have to force them
@@TheReddShinobi13 I read that they recently celebrated one year of no racism
It isn't Beitar's problem, it's Israel's problem. Most in Israel support the oppression of Palestinians, Beitar fans are just loud about it
Mallorca in Spain is also prone to banana throwing antics. It's probably a good thing Mallorca's a yo-yo club and not of Lazio's stature
ONLY LAZIO✋
Watching this now, YT takes a massive FUCKING L for not letting you say words that otherwise define football team supporters in general. Politics and football go together like milk and honey unless it's just about passion.
As an italian and Roma fan, the biggest blame is on the italian FA and not on the Club (Lazio) for ignoring these despicable acts or at best imposing light sanctions to clubs. What we’d need to do is to imitate what the English FA did with hooligans from the 1980s on, they made them disappear with lifetime bans and now stadiums are way safer environments for everybody.
Ofc the club won’t outright condemn and ban their main source of revenue, action must be taken by FA and UEFA
Daje Roma
@@giuseppe1193 sempre
Average Roma fan L,the only good thing you guys have is Jose Mourinho
@@UltraInstinctGoku69it’s an “L” to have concrete action to eliminate racism from the stands? Incredible amount of bigotry on display right here
sellout
Just because you mentioned him in this video briefly, to those that never saw him Lilian Thuram was an unbelievable defender
Lazio based
What you neglected to mention about the mihajlovic incident is that when vieira and him ended up together at milan they got along well. Idt either was being racist so much as using race in the on field mental battle, which isnt good but still isnt an actual hateful ideology
no that's still racist
Roma founded by mussolini and literally brings mussolini flags to games but nothing about that! Obviously the clueless yank talks about what he shouldn't talk about.
Solito laziale piagnone
Eh be' certo mo semo noi a fa i cori contro umtiti
@@underfellpapyrus8998
La storia della Lazio è vera, è tutta lì, senza coperture. La storia della Roma no, la gente non parla di ciò che dovrebbe parlare. Non lo sa praticamente nessuno che ci sono una miriade di fascisti in Sud, perché la gente è superficiale
Unfortunately I think that this problem will just get worse considering everything going on in Italy
What’s going on in Italy?
@@chellio6463 they just elected an openly fascist president that praises mussolini
@@chellio6463 far-right is at the esecutive in this moment and they have the most of the seats in the Parlament
@@piotrilic6331 what have they done that makes them far right? Or is it just another media smear?
@@correctbydefault2047 they are very anti lgbt & anti immigration. The prime minister has also praised Mussolini many years ago and also apparently was part of a neo fascist activist group
These damn blips, what the hell are youtube thinking? I can't say the name *Benito Mussolini* now?
I guess so.
It depends(youtube can demonetize,but not always)
I'm actually from Rome and remember vividly seeing the after effect of the attack in the drunken ship. It was a cool place where you used to be able to play beer pong.
This is a diferent post from the usual but its amazing you share this info. I love lesrning about other clubs! 10/10
As a Roma fan i can say that, sadly, a big part of Lazio fans are like this
As a Feyenoord fan, I'm glad we knocked those fuckers out of the Europa League.
And even though we lost against you in the final, I can at least still respect your club.
Roma >>>>>> Lazio
E se lo dice un romanista...
Anche voi non siete una tifoseria immacolata.
@@gimmy5393 mai detto questo. Ho solo detto che i laziali sono peggio
Roma fans are also pretty bad
@@anibalrodriguez2626 Any fan can be bad, but this is just outrageous.
Btw, Alessandra Mussolini has a City Pop album, SUNG IN JAPANESE.
She was an Idol in Showa Era Japan. And funnily enough, she is now not as Right-Wing as the Right-Wing parties in Italy. I find it ironic because imagine how messed up you have to be if *Mussolini's Granddaughter* thinks you're doing too much
and a son, who has Mussolini as surname, and plays - SPOILER - for Lazio
Respect to Celtic fans who made a banner saying 'Follow your leader' depicting Mussolini's hanging when they played Lazio. They deserve nothing less, our grandfathers and great grandfathers killed these people.
ONE WAY TO SOLVE IT!!! ALL BLACK PLAYERS DO NOT JOIN THEIR TEAM
NEXT!!!
That would be good since it would be only italians on the team
I can't believe FIFA fines México but not the Italian clubs
Facts
That's the UEFA and the Italian Federation's job.
Or did you forget the fact that FIFA punished Mexico for acts during a WC qualifier ?
when you don't understand the difference between a club and a national team, or the concept of jurisdiction, yet you have such strong opinions...
@@stewie4467 He's american
his whole culture revolves around this paradox
🤣🤣
Thank Infantino for that
This video feels like a censored rap song on NBA 2K.
great video bro.. you've always been a person who has spoken up. bless
Yeah , i mean , nobody else waffles on about woke garbage do they ....
@@benitolazio8193 I've seen you comment so much shit, why are you like this? Racist, facist? For what reason my friend, everyone should be equally respected
@Benito Lazio being against racism isnt being woke mate
I think I found my club
stop being right wing ok
@@BuylghostYtwhy
@@SorryAndSad Because it makes you sad
@@BuylghostYt How does it make someone sad?
Lazio is the club to root for and Real Madrid obviously 😎
Mussolini favorite club was Lazio, So Not surprised about this behavior
mussolini wanted to erase lazio, Mussolini founded as Roma, the fascist club. Mussolini was caught by ivo bitetti, a lazio player. Don't spread bullshits
Fake. He wasn't really interested in football, he only used it as a propaganda tool
No it wasn't,he hated Lazio because they refused his idea of a merger of Rome clubs into one.
Fake news
He was a Bologna fan
I’m absolutely horrified that this happens especially in such a well known club
Well Lazio has a long history of fascism in their club. The average supporter isn't a nazi but historially Lazio always attracted fascist ultras. Although from my understanding this has been a problem in Italy in general lately. Italians can correct me if I'm wrong. But the rise of fascism is slightly becoming a global isssue in the last decade or so. Greece also has a similar problem but there is at least a significant pushback by other ultras. Regardless when the FA is not willing to do anything it shall fall to the fans to fix the issue as best they can whether we like it or not.
real madrid used to have fascist fans during 30s to 80s
they were also supported by franco
Well known for racisme of course
@@yourlocalidiot750 Ultras Sur was banned in 2014. Up until then Real had loud fascists supporting them in every game.
@@ziddax damn, fascists there took longer to be banned then i thought. the more you know.
where did you get that celta vigo shirt I might want to find one fro myself.
The only solution to this is UEFA banning Italian FA and Italian clubs from all European competitions, including WC qualifiers. Maybe then they'll take action.
UEFA in the 80's banned all English clubs for the actions of Liverpool fans during the Heysel disaster so a precedent exists. If their mantra really is "No to racism" they should ban the clubs whenever racist incidents happen.
banning a whole country because of a few dipshit is enormously fucking stupid. I'm glad morons with this mentality aren't in the governing body
Wow this is unreal... Welcoming the first black player and thats how you welcome them.
Correct
@@benitolazio8193Bro Mussolini failed to invade Greece, shit his pants, and needed Germany to carry his ass. It's more so humiliating that your fans worship that shit bag. Bro failed in the biggest war in history. Like I'd rather admire a guy that actually did something in that war than Mussolini who looked like a clown.
@@benitolazio8193 Napoliiiii aye aye
Seems like the entirety of the serie a in general has this problem.
Tbh i don't see this issue with black south American players in serie A.. maybe its not an Italian or serie A issue.. but something else.
It seems that Italy has this problem, Europe, Eurasia, the world, the universe....
europe in general has this problem
@@jmgonzales7701 and latin America has a big cartel problem.. i know which problem I'd rather have..
@@Micfri300 im not latino thou... also i am aware every country has their problems thou I'm saying this kind of problem is a problem of Europe in general.
A lazio player, ivo bitetti, caught mussolini. Lazio legend, Tommaso maestrelli, was a communist partisan. Sinisa mihajlovic, another lazio legend, was a communist. This is just disinformation
Rest in peace Siniša 🕊️
TH-cam's policy is so dumb lol
"So Racist fans did [redacted] and [redacted]. Even after that the [redacted] said [redacted] to this player. After that the federation gave [redacted] a [redacted] for 2 months for [redacted] because of [redacted]"
as someone who lived in rome last year, the drunken ship pub is a pretty small bar and is also right by a major tourist hub, so shit going out of control there is high key dangerous
On the topic of sinisa, apparently he did that with anyone he came up against just to set them off. Can't speak on if his intentions were purely racist but that is an insane way to get in your opponent's head.
Kind of funny how clubs never get penalized for shit like this because they know the most vocal minority also happen to be some of the most diehard "fans" meaning the club is just gonna let those idiots continue attending matches
"idiots" ? look at your pic are you on the spectrum.
wooow Whats happening with lazio jesus christ holy what the hell btw great work maqwell always love watching your channel
Judging by the current political attitude of Italy, I suspect this issue is not going away anytime soon
Good
@@sq_z clown
@@Aria-ck5suFaggot
@@Aria-ck5su clown
@@sq_z clown
Beitar Jerusalem fans admitting they are racist in the stadium
Why do you care? Its not your country
As a Lazio fan, I have to say this: even we Lazio fans are bothered to be considered all fascists because of these horrible people, and Serie A should have prohibited the fascists in Lecce to enter the stadium forever, not punish the entire Curva Nord, because it looks like we’re all fascists and that’s not true. Only we were punished for episodes of fascism: Atalanta fans insulted Vlahovic because he has Slavic origins, and Napoli fans called Lukaku a (n-word), but in these two episodes no decision was taken... I’m not saying that if others do it is right that we do it too, but it is to make it clear that not all teams in Serie A are punished fairly, and innocent Lazio fans like me don't like this.
So please, don't consider Lazio a fascist team only because some people have a small brain. We have a history full of greatness, beyond racial slurs and discrimination. #notostereotypes
Innocent Lazio fans? Dude, every single Italian is a hardcore neo nazi, it's literally in your people's DNA. Dont pretend there are people in your country against this fascism. It's whole of Italy. For Christs sake, you even have a fascist prime minister. Get your dumb clown takes out of here.
la roba degli insulti a lukaku è super fake, a napoli potremmo anche essere cafoni ma non siamo razzisti, stavamo semplicemente incitando kim non facendo versi da o scimmie o robe del genere
@@bloodsin That is quite literally, the most ridiculous thing i've read all day. You should probably just delete your dumbshit comment
Liar ! you are no Lazio fan , communista merda.
that rich history and the romanticism of the club it's what made me decide to support Lazio in Italy. I really feel atratacted by the history, i love the sky blue equipement, the simbolism, the players, the titles. But when I say to my friends that i support Lazio in italy they instantly think because i like fascist stuff, and it turns kinda uncomfortable to say that i support Lazio. But I really like the club, I hope that those fascist scum gets kicked out any day in the future
Hey Max what do you think of the "Gio Reyna's family blackmail Greg Berhalter" situation?
As a Lazio fan against any kind of racism I think you should have started with what you ended: the biggest problem is the league, that don't have the treath to give a banning order to fans, something that in Premier League is present. Second you have to consider how many of these people are: for example when you talked about that steward that was discriminated there's the video on youtube that proves that were actually only (I'n not joking) 4-5 people doing the choir. These people represent the first two line of seats in the stadium, you can't even present them as "Lazio fans" but as something else. You have been very disrespectful towards the rest of the fans and the football team putting it in a really bad light. And we are already a target, especially from referees when we play european cups
did you just ignore everything else he said
your club is supposed to be shown in a bad light. They have dozens of cases like this. Not just the steward one
@@uhAngellit’s always the same people that do it. Most of the laziali want these people GONE
Good that there are supporters who try to fight racism. In Poland, such ppl were either driven out or became worn out :(
If this type of stuff was done in the US, it would be an instant lifetime ban for every single individual involved. It's disgusting that any of these isolated actions aren't punished to the highest order, much less all of them over years and years.
Maybe because USA is weak and wimpy?
Us doesn't have ultras whatsoever obviously they would ban them
US is a pathetic country that got half of its cities burned by african marxist supremacists called BLM after a drugged up criminal called floyd got what he deserved and nothing happened
I am Proud to be european and a lazio fan.
Americans are literal nobodies especially when it comes to football
@@ultramarine40k65 yeah we can see that you are a Lazio fan... FASCISTI FUORI DAGLI STADI SIETE DELLE MERDE
@@Ciaoandrea999 they kinda do just mostly in the nfl
It's so stupid that you have to censor half the video because of YT
What make it more annoying is that he has to censor words like “racism”
And even more that 90% of rap music videos say much worse uncensored
Yeah made it hard to follow
We all remember Lazio fans bellowing racist chants at Ballotelli. Lazio really need to sort out they're mf fanbase. And the fanbase need to sort themselves out. 😔
It’s hilarious that saying someone is a socialist is nothing but someone saying they’re a fascist is some sort of insult.
Lets be consistent, you are allowed to believe and support fascism lmao.
I don't see anyone getting worked up over far left Livorno and St Pauli fans. Livorno fams dislpay Che Guevara flags in their sector
@@kadasrichard chud detected
@@kadasrichardgood for them
This video is like a 50 cent song on the radio. half of it is silenced for censorship hahaha. Love the videos bro! Hope to see you at a CFC game this year!!! Go MINT CITY!!
Steward working mainly at the Dall'Ara (Bologna FC stadium) here. Thankfully Bologna does not have these problems, with everyone included ultras being against racism and discrimination of any kind. However during a match at Sassuolo Stadium (the organiser Is the same and since It's close from Bologna we go there frequently), Salernitana supporters were racially abusing Sassuolo's black players, even tho Salernitana's best player was Simy lol. I was under their stand and when I had enough of the monkey chants I tried to contact the higher ups expressing my disgust, but i only got a "Yeah yeah i'll tell the federation" with a blatant disinterest. Unsurprisingly nothing came out on the news so my action was in vain, the problem Is with adult/old people Who have important positions, they Just dont care.
Also in my workplace there Is a black guy Who constantly gets racially abused and called the n word by our mid 40s/50s bosses, he said to me that he's not bothered by It but when i look at his face i can tell It hurts.
I really Hope things change with the new generation
Was a steward in Italian Stadia from 2009 to 2014 for the most in Northern Italy.
Mostly Brescia, Verona, Parma, Padova and so on.
Luckily we always defended our teammates (most of them had african origins) from racial abuses.
In that sense, DASPOs and Tessera del Tifoso improved the level of safety a lot.
Still the issue is indeed cultural (and a ton of italians are literally retarded AF), and it will take decades to solve, thou, yeah, sadly what you wrote is kinda true
The new italian generation is changing..but are more ignorant in other aspects such has for example acknowledging italians who were born abroad.
@@Micfri300 ?
@@Ciaoandrea999 resolve one "problem" ruin another ie removing automatic citizenship to those born abroad all to for "progress"
Thanks Karen , snitch.
Yes youtube, ban saying "racism". That will really help... wtf how are you supposed to talk about racism like this? It leaves the field wide open for actual racists, since noone can even call them out on their racism anymore on here
Amazing video. I am shocked I had no idea I knew none of this, also not understand why the club does not do more to STOP these fans. Completely unacceptable
Because there is right wing ...and there is wrong wing , stick to your globalist , liberal garbage .
When I was younger I used to support Lazio because Klose played for them. Thank god I didn't know how their fans were...
Instead support the best team in Rome💛♥️ (I'm joking)
About the Klose thing: Lazio ultras didn't spare him from their bullshit. I remember a picture I saw where one Lazio ultra raised a big banner with:" Klose mit uns " (Klose with us) written on it. This is a derivative of: "Gott mit uns" (God with us), which was the motto of the goddamn SS. What makes this even worse is that not only did they use the font that the SS used, but the fact that Miroslav Klose has polish roots.
These ultras always sucked!
@@PrinzPassionsfrucht Felt bad for Klose, one of my favorite footballer ever
If you are happy not to support a football team because of their ultras good for you, but real football fans stay loyal in spite of these things and try to improve the situation. As a non-racist, non-fascist Lazio fan we don't want you.
@@cocazer0 sus
Bring back transfer Thursdays please, most of us miss a few transfers due to school etc
Or you could just follow Fabrizio Romano..
@@raiyanibneshajed7434 I already do but he mostly just covers top transfers
Excellent video on an important topic.
Great video. Keep up the good work.
It’s kinda ironic you filmed this video while wearing a Celta Vigo kit. Italian fans are awful, but Spanish fans are almost just as bad. The entire Southern Europe has a problem with racism and it’s really sad. We must work together to fight it.
Spain's problems are undoubted existent but seem to be a bit more intermittent and localized due to a combo of more left-wing ultra groups being more commonplace which discourages said racism. The other reason would involve several clubs have banned some ultra groups, all right-wing ultra groups due to their violence and racism in particular from their stadiums.
Edit: That being said, the Spanish clubs that have right-wing ultra groups still permitted inside the stadium are troublesome and prolific. Particularly Mallorca comes to mind and probably won't ever do anything about their ultras due to finances unless the RFEF does something to punish the club as they're a Balaeric Island team where they're never going to Europe and get mocked by Celtic for example as the money isn't there for that.
Simply in southern Europe mass immigration from Africa is only 10-15 years old so they have not had centuries to normalize certain situations as racist as opposed to countries with a long past of extreme racism and colonialism such as Belgium, France, uk etc
@@alessiovalentini4401 not in Portugal tho, they had multiple colonies in Africa and a lot of people migrated from there to Portugal and vice versa
They're trying unlike Italy. No matter how much of a c*nt Balotelli was the stuff he went through in Italy before the Euro Cup of 2012 was disgusting.
All ultra groups here in Italy are terrible, but Lazio is probably the worst one from this point of view. The only one that can compete I think is Hellas Verona, although it obviously has a lower profile.
So you are against S.S. Lazio but you are a Vietnamese living in the U.S after they invaded Vietnam? something here is so strange.
I'm a Napoli fan and I agree so much, there is just no room for racism in football, Serie A need to do something, ban the racist fans for life and fine Lazio massively or give them point deductions.
You know USA isn’t perfect, but I just can’t wrap my head around the idea of this happening in a stadium here. It blows my mind this is so common not only in Italy, but Spain as well.
With Spain, there's also a significant number of left-wing ultra groups as well. But the clubs with right-wing ultras and smaller stadium crowds are particularly troublesome (think Mallorca)
@@Eibarwoman this kind of r@cism happens in spain😱
Usa is actually more progressive than most of europe.
@@jmgonzales7701 An increasingly uncommon event I reckon, but mostly because team owners and staff don't want racists lowering ticket values, sponsorship deals, etc. But the fact it happens in the first place is a problem.
Well the US divides people into races and kills and assaults people just because they are black, it's much worse. Ignorant Italian fans offend opponents regardless of color, origin and nationality and therefore black people are also involved
Speaking as an Inter fan, most Interisti hate the ultras, the club motto is “brothers of the world” because the club was founded by foreign players, they are proud of having a global fanbase and they see the bigoted behaviour of the ultras as the antithesis of that. Sadly it’s not a simple football issue, it’s an issue with Italian culture in general. I have Italian friends and it’s sad that it’s like this.
Speaking as an Inter fan aswell i can say that you are incorrect. Interisti have a lot of respect for CN69 the club was not founded exclusivly by foreigers and the Ultras have friendships with foreign clubs like Nice and Dinamo Buchuresti
The club was founded by Italian dissident associates of AC Milan, who wanted the team club to accept foreigners. AC Milan majority of fans didn't want it. That's why we met at Ristorante l'Orologio in 1908 and started Internazionale FC, to be the Brothers of the World.
That's the story.
Internazionale is not a foreign made club. It's a club made to acknowledge the foreigners as our brothers and to welcome every single person of the world is accepted to play in our club.
CN69/Boys San and the Inter Ultras are just full of neofascist scum from Milan mostly, because of the Bauscia's tradition of Inter during 50/60s which attracted a lot of right wingers (which they remained)
What is the problem regarding italian culture? What led it to becoming discriminant to africans?
@@jmgonzales7701 im guessing the lack of previous contact (which is not a problem per se)
@@xenagos3336 they didnt have any contacts with blacks during the roman era?
I can’t believe that there’s still so many nazi sympathizers in the comments. Jesus christ
Not a surprise since computer screens and internet has enabled withered, braindead, Nazi sympathizing incels hiding behind keyboards to sound like tough guys with half-inch manhoods. They are indeed a 'minority' in every sense of the word :D
@@risavsahu4666 bruh the guy who made the video is chinese and you're a baljeet you two mfs combined don't have half my dick lmaooo
@@lorenzospitaleri It's ok, let your frustrations out little man. Much more safer to do it here than outside :-)
@@risavsahu4666 yea like you indians don't have the fame of being the ultimate keyboard warriors sure 🤡
@@lorenzospitaleri Cope 👍
As Lazio fan i can say that we had a lot of black players over the years and some of them are amongst the most loved players of all times. Ask Caicedo, Dabo, Mudingay or Lukaku if laziali are racist. Is just a small minority that like to mess around because they have a sad life, I don’t think they even really support Lazio.
Mussolini's Great-Granchild literally plays in the Lazio U23 and has featured on the bench for a couple of Serie A and Europa League games last season
God bless this young man
DAMN IT TH-cam, LET THE MAN SAY IT
TH-cam cant even solve scam and false advertising
@@ameEeeee3 true but still
Lazio really standing up for themselves
These black players that tear from some fans shouting racist stuff would not last a season in south american football lol
bro what
@@kingkwaku999 what you heard, here in argentina they call boca juniors supporters "bolivians" , multiple historically religious clubs like nueva chicago call other clubs supporters jews and say that they are "black people who travesti themselves for money" its an everyday thing, its just football folklore, we dont bitch about this we just answer more harshly, but deep down we know we have friends from other clubs and have no problem whatsoever with them, and obviously we leave every difference behind when the national team plays for the world cup or copa america.
@@laquentineta6241 No I meant, who in their right mind would play there if they are not ready to get tackles way worse than Sergio Ramos or Pepe
@@kingkwaku999 ramos and pepe tackles are baby stuff, go watch some paraguayan league lol, libertadores has soften a lot tho
If that’s baby stuff then South America must be the purge
glad you're not afraid to shed light on the lesser discussed problems in world football. just think of the incessant censoring as allowing yourself to continue doing this
So stunning , so brave ...until this is taken down , make the most of this communist garbage.
@@benitolazio8193 ?
First time ive unironically seen a youtuber correctly use "Facism" in a political sense,as in the italian facism and not german nazism
He called Alessandra "neonazi" so not really.
The Nazis were fascists too, just a different flavour
@@prkp7248 i get that,tbh they arent a neonazi but i would say they are definetly more of a national conservatism
@@aziirax3400 what's wrong with fascism though
Thank you for making me fallen in love with Lazio! Appreciate it!
Least racist sevco supporter
you're a sad, unimportant little man.
You will not be remembered.
Next make a video about the self proclaimed most racist team in the world Beitar Jerusalem
He won't because only europeans get the backlash, not Yahweh's chosen tribe
Seeing how Italy has constantly been quite challenging in terms of stopping discrimination has probably affected its popularity world wide especially with black people this could affect the league and make it a league far from the popularity it will have in the future if not fixed soon
Idk why italy suddenly is very discriminant to black people?
less blacks? sounds very good
@@deinvaterduhs the fuck is wrong with you
@@nuts3954 too many non whites in europe
@@deinvaterduhs too many racists like you in the world
I have always been anti-Lazio because of those far right ultras.
Mi dispiace per te
The Lazio people are not fascists, only the ultras (who in Italy are almost all neo-fascists). the true Lazio people follow the Olympic spirit, directly from the foundation of the club in 1900. anyone with a brain is against certain extremist policies, both right and left.
Proud to be a Lazio fan, even if you all just throw shit on us
Forza Lazio! Cheers from Sofia my friend
@@Ratnik7172 thanks! 🙌🏻
@i.s.a.a.c Yeah, Europe is dying because of scum like you
The based department called Lazio
I really hope I never have to hear these sorts of things at a football match.
Same, im an ethnic minority and i dont want to experience asian hate😅
@chad chud i am 100% filipino, im asian no doubt.
diddums
felipe anderson one of your best players and still have no respect for black players, have some shame.
does youtube really take your videos down if you say "racism" "fascism" and "Mussolini"??? The censorship is REEEEEEEEEEALLy annoying
Levski - Lazio 20 years blood brothers
Support from Zagreb to my Blue Brothers🔵🇭🇷🇧🇬🦅
My old gym teacher at secondary school was a Lazio supporter who tried to run in politics with far right party CasaPound, idk how he managed to get a job in a school as a neof*scist
Lol. Neof*scist. As if they came up with new ideas, hence the prefix neo-.
@@nicholastricarico2957 true lol
Legend , should be more like him.
@@benitolazio8193 sisì grazie
What’s your opinion on Vietnam team in the latest cup?
well I know 1 facts we are not Thailand level ofc we still behind them
Lethargic and out of ideas unfortunately. Park Hang Seo has maximized the potential of the squad. Playing 3atb only gets you so far.
@@quangtrungnguyen2885 yup
I’ve seen more passion in Cambodian national team than us against Thailand.
No,seriously,we played like Timor-Leste in the final. Can’t even connect simple pass,can’t shot,can’t even move the ball forward in the first half.
@@DungNguyen-dk8wm all the facts we too weak evn Cambodia play better vs Thailand
Great work as always Maxwell
The final clip is a good sum up of the world at the moment.