A lot of intense football rivalries stem from issues that have little to do with the game. In Scotland you have Rangers / Celtic and Hearts / Hibs which is religion. Rangers and Hearts are Protestant, Celtic and Hibs Catholic. And they hate each other. The Manchester Liverpool rivalry can be traced back to the creation of the Manchester ship canal. Portsmouth and Southampton is down to a dock workers strike years ago. Arsenal Tottenham is because we moved from Woolwich to North London and back in 1914 or so our then slightly shady owner did some underhand shit to get Spurs relegated. You have Yorkshire clubs fans still hating Midlands clubs fans due to the miners strike in the early 80's. As an aside the reason Italian fans in particular hate Liverpool fans can be traced back to what happened in Heysel. Good video fella.
@@kingjr3288 A lot of it goes back to the miners strike in the early 80's. To give you a shortened version pretty much all the UK's miners went on strike. Apart from the ones in the Midlands who formed a new union. The strike lasted for over a year. Lead to a lot of bitterness and hatred. Mining was a massive industry in Yorkshire and Notts in particular.
Actually Tottenham is originally a village of Middlesex which is a County between Herefordshire & Essex! Tottenham are actually north of east london where as Arsenal are actually in Islington North London! Tottenham was Middlesex until 1959 & weren't part of Greater london until 1965! And dispite rumours it was Chelsea who took Tottenham's place when they were relegated to Division 2!
@@vincenzopatrone7048 Arsenal started off in Plumstead in Kent before moving to Woolwich. Then in 1913 we moved to Islington in North London four miles away from Spurs. They were in North London first. Even as a gooner I can't deny that. Maybe they should have got over it by now but they haven't. And won't. Check out the Derby Days series on Copa 90's TH-cam channel for the one on the North London derby for a sample of the feeling. As for Chelsea taking the Spuds place yes they did, but that was based on a vote from other teams. Although never proven Arsenal's then chairman was claimed to have been involved in some shady shit to ensure Spurs lost the vote. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_London_derby
@@FunkyMonkey-ip4xy You are actually Wrong cos when Arsenal moved to Islington Tottenham was still a village in Middlesex Fact! As London was a lot smaller back then Fact! Tottenham didn't become part of london until 1959 Fact & wasn't part of Greater London until 1965 Fact! And Tottenham isn't 4miles from Islington Infact Tottenham is 4miles from Stratford East London so much so it's only 2 stops from Tottenham Hale Station to Stratford Station!
Italy in general is divided because of how it always was. Remember, most big cities were it's own kingdoms/republics (República Florentina, Repùblica de Venèsia etc) and would often fight each other. While some people tried to untie them before(Cesare) they were divided until early to mid 19th century.
As a Roma fan, I feel two things need to be clarified. Yes, Roma historically had a left-wing firm in the Fedayn, but right-wing overtones are massively present in the Roma terraces as well, although the Lazio fans are more "easily" linked to extreme right-wing politics. Also, Lazio didn't really "stand up" to the regime in refusing the merger, as actually the merger was refused by a fascist general. And as long as there is a kind of extreme tone to some derbies around the stadium, it is lovely how the atmosphere around a derby unravels through the bars and streets of Rome, as fans of each team jeer each other.
i'm a lazio fan and I completely agree. Roma and Lazio, like many other fan bases in Italy, are affected by destructive elements. However, when it comes to Lazio, this tends to make even more headlines due to incidents from 20-30-40 years ago, which, however, persist. I would also add that the Rome-Lazio derby is hard to comprehend from the outside; you have to experience it, and not just those two times a year, but all the time. There's a lot of rivalry, but within the Roman context, it's a rivalry filled with irony. At least, that's how I see it
This is very accurate. Definitely different shades of right wing in the fanbases, but deeply rooted in both. I think the "Roma left wing" view comes from the new owners' push at making Roma marketable internationally (hello, Disneyland), as the "b-but Lazio are evil!" talk I see online comes from America-based Roma fans. Its probably difficult to tell which parts of the rivalry are serious and which are not. Like the Anne Frank thing was a big story and of course made headlines, but has always been done for comical reasons rather than serious. An outsider might see that type of insult and think its a good representation of the two, but Roma (and the rest of us) regularly use the same insult towards Juve.
@@YevOnegin not at all. And there is a difference: Roma's left wing credentials have to do with a powerful group within the Roma tifo, the Fedayn, who were left wing. The Roma support was apolitical and included people from all the political arc. The American property doesn't count in this, and in fact it has been criticised for not going heavy on some banners with subtle right-wing simbology. As far as Lazio supporters are not all fascists and there have been initiatives by Lazio supporters to counter this image, a relevant part of the curva is unapologetically fascist, they are undoubtedly among the most right wing supporters in Italy and the aforementioned antifascist fans have even been physically attacked by other Lazio fans for that.
@Danny Isambard Back in the middle ages it was cities (or little more) fighting each other. Pisa against Livorno against Florence, Siena, etc... Tuscany is a great example of city rivalries. In Florence, there are rivalries even between different areas of the city!
@Danny Isambard not quite. There were a lot of city states, yes, but there were also bigger states, the biggest ones being the papal states, sardegna, Venice and Naples/sicily. But they were also ruled by other kingdoms. The Islands were ruled by greeks, arabs and spaniards, in the north there were german rulers, most notably the holy roman empire. Italy as a nation wasn't created until 1861 (yesterday was the anniversary) and the last regions were added after ww1. So there have been loads of influences and different rulers that has shaped the cultures of Italy and it's regions, which is part of the reason why a lot of regions have very distinct dialects and cultures, which they are very proud of
Really good explanation, there can be off course a lot of things to add, as a Roma fan myself I really appreciate your explanation and even if as a Roma fan will always feel the rivalry with Lazio, I really hope that both fan base can became more mature and stop to bring shame on the whole city and citizen.. but as you can aspect football is a mirror or better a sort of emergency valve for all those problem and situation lying under the civil society often with deep roots that are hard to eradicate.
It's not as it's described... I'm from Rome and I have never seen physical violent. Of course there is competition about who is the best but it's normal. I went to the stadium for the first time on a derby match when I was only 12 years old and nothing happened except for a very good and enjoyable match. Forza Lazio 💙 🇮🇹
People always like to exaggerate and over hype things, are there dangerous lunatics on both sides? definitely, but it is always played up as it gets views, check out the ridiculous video Copa 90 did on the rivalry, it was so over the top.
Could you do a video about The Clasico between Chivas and America? Great video once again. When I watch these types of videos I always watch the player documentaries again. Keep up the great work.
I just saw your video about Pjanic`s transfer to Barcelona... Pjanic played for Roma and was loved from Roma fans until one derby match against Lazio! Lazio wins derby 1:0 and scorer was Lulic, Bosnian national player (and one of the captains in Lazio) and good friend from Pjanic... After the match, Pjanic said: the only good thing about this los is for him that the scorer was his friend... Roma fans hated him after this!
@@kuntalchatterjee280 I think that's way over exaggerated, i didn't knew how violent this derby was, and i think this one is even worse than River - Boca River - Boca is just the worse in America
Being not Italian and specifically not a Roman, you did an outstanding job. Lazio fans in Rome are mostly radicated in the upper class areas, while Roma fans are mostly to be found in lower class areas. Roma fans outnumber Lazio fans, that is true, but the majority of Roma fans just support the team to feel part of the majority. A Lazio fan picks Lazio because he (normally) truly embraces its traditions and identity. You said it too after all, the very first team ever founded in Rome was Lazio and not Roma, who just tried to convince Lazio to be part of them. It is an historical facy that Lazio refused Roma. Lazio fans are amongst the most feared and specifically, creative fans in the world. They created some of the most incredible "coreografie", which is the reason why I became a Lazio fan. Roma fans were never able to live up to the Lazio standards. I still remember a derby when Roma fans weren't even able to unroll their banner. That is something very embarassing for any ultras crew. When you go to Rome you seem to find a large majority of Roma fans around. Roma started a very efficinet marketing plan, opening stores all over the city. Lazio is way behind on that aspect, but there are plenty of Lazio fans all around the city. Lastly, the most important derby ever was played on May 26th, 2013. Coppa Italia final was Lazio vs Roma. That was the final derby, the only derby in history that assigned a trophy. Lazio won that derby and that will be forever something that will hunt Roma's fan dreams. Media in Rome are super supportive for Roma and try to belittle Lazio all the times. Lazio is the real, proud football representative of the city of Rome.
Hahaha please...!! Ok, you're laziale, so you're biased, and I'm romanista so i am too. But claiming that lazio is better at choreographies is pathetic, and so easily verified. The whole world knows about curva sud, all they know about the curva nord are the fascist salutes...
stefano paris Why do you lazio supporters always have to be such crybabies, nobody is trying to belittle you, and nobody puts Roma on a pedestal. The media treats the Capitals teams as what they are, average teams that achieve something sporadically, once in a while.
@@kevinmcnally8076 categorically untrue... Great recent examples include the attack on csk mosca fans captured on video and another video from a few games ago where a Roma fan throws a middle aged lady down a flight of stairs... Both incidents unreported on outlets such as corriere and gazzetta
Hey in the recent years i have started to see what a wonderful team Lazio is, hell i could even call it my favorite European team, not because of trophies and shit like that, but because of unyielding spirit and i can't help but notice the similarities between my local team and Lazio. Now see i live in Thessaloniki and there is an intense rivalry over here, Aris vs Paok. I'm an Aris fan. Lots of similarities that i can notice such as: 1.We were the first team founded in the city, with the exception of Iraklis, that team that has not seen good days since the early 80s and spends most of his time, fighting with exctinction, in the lower leagues. 2. Aris just like Lazio has most of its fans in upper class areas and Paok in lower class areas. 3. Paok fans outnumber Aris fans, but the majority of Paok fans just support the team to feel part of the majority and because its trendy. 4. Only a fan who truly comprehends and embraces Aris traditions and identity becomes a fan of our team. 5. Paok has been trying to destroy all other teams in Northern Greece, because they wanted to consume us essentially and they are still trying that. While they didn't officially asked us to join them per se, i see it as kind of a similar situation where we rejected their attempts to dominate us. 6. We have incredable fans too that know how to make our stadium vibrant and create an incredible atmosphere. 7. Paok ultras are cowards and the laughingstock of Greece, they are also very violent, though not at all feared. 8. Media and government are super supportive of Paok and essentially against us. 9. We have the us against everyone mentality more than any other team in Greece.
@@thepeacefulchannel613 Everybody cared about that derby even though Roma fans claim not to care about it 😂 have you not listened to Roma radio programs saying that this was the most important derby in the history of the two clubs? It’s because it was, and Lazio made history by winning it. The important thing was not the trophy or the UEL qualification, it was the fact that one of the two teams could “alzare la coppa in faccia” lift a trophy in front of the other team
SS Lazio, you cant make this up. Roma was more sympathetic even before I knew about the past of the teams. I looked a while ago in the history of this clubs for fifa cm and because of Totti/DeRossi. Quite fascinating as you can see in the video. So I am looking forward to see more vids with the topic rivalry 👍
A few Derbys for the future : Ajax vs Feyenoord, Liverpool vs Everton or Manu, City vs United, Arsenal vs Tottenham, Villa vs Birmingham, Inter vs Ac Mailand, Real vs Barcelona, Atletico vs Real, Betis vs Sevilla, Valencia vs Villarreal, Barcelona vs Espanyol, Lyon vs Saint Etienne, Bvb vs Schalke, Hamburg vs St Pauli or Werder Bremen, Olympiakos vs Panathinaikos, Paok vs Aek or Aris, Partizan vs Crvena, Benfica vs Sporting, Celtic vs Rangers, Wydad vs Raja, Sparta Praha vs Slavia, Cska Moskva vs Spartak, Zagreb vs Hajduk, Galatasaray vs Fenerbahce, AL ahly vs Zamalek, Esperance vs Club African, Kaizer Chiefs vs Orlando Pirates, America vs Guadalajara, Flamengo vs Fluminense, Gremio vs Internacional, Mineiro vs Cruzeiro, Universidad vs Colo Colo, Sydney vs WS Wanderers
great video. I'm a huge roma and travelled there to watch games many times (champions league included). the info on this video is spot on. great job. you got a sub!! 👍👍👍
Italy is literally full of rivalry i swear we've never gotten over the middle ages and city states I'm half sicilian half neapolitan but when i traveled to Italy when i was younger with my family every year we went at least once usually twice once with my dads side once with my moms and I've been to calcio games up and down the country its really amazing the unique cultures and rivalry you find within each region oh one more thing SEMPRE FORZA NAPOLI
im a lazio fan and i wanna point something out.Im Roman,I come from Rome so as my whole family so my roots are all from Rome ,we are all from Rome not from outside the city.What u sìaid about the "burini" thing is false and ill tell u why.When lazio was born in Rome there were 900.000 people in the city and at 1925 in Rome the population increased at 1.500.000 people thats because all italians who were coming to Rome for the job offers they all come from different regions of the countries and in order to identified themselves as roman and has not immigrants they were all supporting roma.As u said they were playing in testaccio a workindustry area so the real burini are them and not lazio fan cause we all come from ROme.And we called ourselves lazio not for the region because at that time "lazio" region didn't exist but because of Latius which translate from latin to italian is lazio.We are Rome.Rome and real roman roots supports Lazio and not as roma.AS ROMA MERDA.....FORZAA LAZIO 1900:daje lazio
66veteran it is NOT wonderfull logic. It’s called unaltered reality. He is telling you exactly how thngs are. Not to mention Lazio, on performance level has achieved more (just watch, soon will be cleared how Lazio should be champions of Italy 1914-1915, when Genoa was declared champion of NORTH of Italy, never facing Lazio, who went to WW1) . The only problem I’d say Eduardo makes is that he should tell you more about the history. Prima squadra della Capitale SS Lazio !
justsay no No, Roma encompasses so many supporters that it does not have a specific political connotation, there is a right wing Romanista community a communist community so the Roma Firm does not bring politics in the stadium usually, while Lazio supporters have a strong far right or standard right wing identity.
In the 70's Roma's Ultras were left wing then starting in the 80's right wing fans became more vocal and gradually took over the Ultras not long after that. Now politics are rarely brought up. It is different from Lazio where the"'Irriducibili" because of Mussollini's well known sympathies for Lazio are very right wing and tho they are a minority rule the roost thru intimidation in the Curva Nord (North Side)
@@untifosoromanista63torloni12 He is actually correct, you muppet. The reason why lazio is blue and white is because of Greece. (ancient Greece was the biggest cultural influence on the roman empire. they even took over their religion and just changed the names). And the reason why they have a golden eagle is because of Zeus.
I agree! I’m from England and lazio is my favourite team other than my own. I love your fans! Real moody passionate footbal fans! This is unfortunataly lacking in England now! maybe one day I could join the lazio fans in the stadio olimpico to watch lazio play! Greeting from Blackpool, England. 🦅🔵⚪️
Neither club can be proud of the fascists among their "supporters". Like many fascists, they are also cowards of the worst kind who act "bravely" when they have knives in their hands. If they were stripped of their weapons, the only activity they would excel at would be running away from anyone who stood up to them. Their fellow citizens MUST be ashamed of the pondlife who dwell amongst them. Thousands of brave allied armed forces as well as true Italian patriots fought and some sacrificed their lives to free Italy from the evils of fascism. These so-called "ultras" stain the good name of Italian sport and sportsmanship and the sooner both clubs ban them all; the better. Viva Roma!
Dynamo Kiev has similar problems. The casual fans and the majority of the stadium are normal people. However many of the ultras are racist, violent fascists. Though, Dynamo doesn't compare to the extremism of Karpaty Lviv. They are one of the worst in Europe.
Thumbs up to Lazio fans for standing up and saving their club. Similar thing happened to my favorite club Zeljeznicar Sarajevo. We were established 1921by the group of local railworkers. 1946 in that time communist government created FK Sarajevo by simply ordering our players to switch the club or could face a jail time. Only few players had guts to stay. But with a huge support from the fans we survived. Totally understand Lazio fans in that way where from the native club they almost push you out of scene. FORZA LAZIO
great series keep it up here are some ideas for other videos Tottenham vs Arsenal Tottenham vs Westham, Westham vs Milwall, arsenal vs Chelsea, Chelsea vs Fulham ,liverpool vs Man u , man U vs Manchester city , Newcastle vs Boro, Newcastle vs Sunderland Aston villa vs Birmingham , Celtic vs rangers , PSG vs Marseilles ,Bayern vs BVB ,Shalke 04 vs BVB. Real Madrid vs Althletico Madrid ,Juve vs inter Ahly vs Zamalek (Egypt)
You should do derby between Ex Yugoslavina legue because in it there were two croatian clubs (Dinamo Zagreb and Hajduk Split) and two serbian clubs (Crvena zvezda and Partizan) and they hated so much that they even started a war between Croatia and Serbia
In reality burino are Roma fans as they were founded later and immigrants from outside that came later joined Roma. Lazio founded in 1900. Roma was a merge of smaller teams in 1927 . And yes the Dice did good things for Italy that's reality, as well bad things as merging with germany. Lazio founded in center of Rome. Roma merged in Abruzzo corropoli out of roma
I do have two questions: 1. What does "Latius" from latin mean? 2. Where do lazio fans in Rome come from exactly? In which parts of Rome do they live? Never been in the capital, but i heard the capital city is full of as roma fans. Grazie!
@@alincostincroitoru1535 Lativm Venus was the old place around Rome where Rome is borned. Lazio fans are more around nord part of Rome, rich people, but all around the city, there are not much special side.
A ridicolo, te le mando io le foto della sud col banderione con falce e martello. Ani 70 andava di moda essere comunisti e voi comunisti. Adesso fate i fasci. Non avete identità. Noi da sempre coerenti, pure a metà abbi 70 quando vi portavate agli scontri tutta autonomia operaia de roma. Anni 77/79. Io avevo 12 anni ma lo so bene e ricordo bene le mani vostre tutte a p38 (Se non dai che vuole dire informati) Vuoi rigirare la storia, ma la storia lascia testimonianze troppo nette Spero tu sia giovane se no sei veramente un poraccio
I'm new to football. I like Immobile and Mancini, but my family is from Pescara. I don't think it would be fun cheering for a Serie C team.. and apparently there's a rivalry with Lazio. Any advice picking a Serie A team to cheer for?
You can’t just pick a team and be a loyal fan… but if you still want a team to cheer for and to be proud of, I’d go for one of the two Rome clubs, Genoa or Sampdoria, Torino, Lecce or clubs like these. They all have a great history (except for Lecce) and their fans are very passionate. I’d suggest doing more research if you want the best, but again, you’ll need to be interested with a team and actually fall in love with it. Oh and if you really like Immobile, he made history with Lazio and he was a really great striker until last year, so Lazio could be your choice
Can you research Glasgow Celtic & Rangers fierce rivalry please. Rangers recently went bust and re-emerging after rebuilding being thrown out of the league and Aberdeen became their fierce rivals. This would be most interesting to me because I am Scottish and I believe the Scottish rangers v Celtic games are the oldest.
Decent video but politically there are some wrong claims. Mussolini was not a fan of Lazio or football in general. He just used it as a vehicle to spread his fascist ideals, just like other political leaders have done all over the world. He was always more of a rugby fan, as that was the upper class sport. As for the fans: Roma ultras also have a far right element amongst them, it's definitely not a Lazio ultra thing alone. There's actually a very good book about it called: Football, Fascism and Fandom which has interviews with ultras of both clubs about their politics. They make it clear that while they hate each other on the terraces, they have the same political ideology and band together over this in a political sense.
As someone from the States who is just getting into football and learning more about the history, the hooliganism is so weird to me. Stuff happens here sometimes for intense games when things get heated, but the hooligans seem to be on another level.
Please make a video on RIVALRY between MANCHESTER UNITED and LIVERPOOL..as we are fast approaching this game this weekend...and yes you’re doing a great job keep it up 👍🏻
I have 2 questions: S.S Lazio was founded on the 9 of JANUARY 1900 - Roma x?- 1926-1927/ 1.Titel 1941-42 Serie A-when al Italian players were enlisted in the army - WWII - only that Italo Foschi beg'd Mussolini not to enlist any Roma players!
I actually thought that this derby was not that „derby atmosphere like“, but now I know it is. I thought that this is more like a normal game 😂. It isn‘t
As Roma has always won more trophies and had better placements in the league, although Lazio won the Uefa Super cup against Man Utd. Roma never won such a prestigious trophy yet.
Lazio also beat Roma in the only cup they ever played eachoter: 2013 LAZIO WON! By the way, don't you think ordering teams to bend together or refusing to do so to be more "right wing"?
imagine a match between Lazio and FC St. Pauli...
I would love that
@@nnzmrgnbgn fuck off, lazio trash would be swept on and off the pitch! viva St. Pauli
@William Cimino Don't knew that...! Thanks!!! 👍
POLITICS
I mean Celtic is just as left wing and you saw how that went lol
A lot of intense football rivalries stem from issues that have little to do with the game. In Scotland you have Rangers / Celtic and Hearts / Hibs which is religion. Rangers and Hearts are Protestant, Celtic and Hibs Catholic. And they hate each other. The Manchester Liverpool rivalry can be traced back to the creation of the Manchester ship canal. Portsmouth and Southampton is down to a dock workers strike years ago. Arsenal Tottenham is because we moved from Woolwich to North London and back in 1914 or so our then slightly shady owner did some underhand shit to get Spurs relegated. You have Yorkshire clubs fans still hating Midlands clubs fans due to the miners strike in the early 80's.
As an aside the reason Italian fans in particular hate Liverpool fans can be traced back to what happened in Heysel.
Good video fella.
Why do Yorkshire clubs hate midlands clubs?
@@kingjr3288 A lot of it goes back to the miners strike in the early 80's. To give you a shortened version pretty much all the UK's miners went on strike. Apart from the ones in the Midlands who formed a new union. The strike lasted for over a year. Lead to a lot of bitterness and hatred. Mining was a massive industry in Yorkshire and Notts in particular.
Actually Tottenham is originally a village of Middlesex which is a County between Herefordshire & Essex!
Tottenham are actually north of east london where as Arsenal are actually in Islington North London!
Tottenham was Middlesex until 1959 & weren't part of Greater london until 1965!
And dispite rumours it was Chelsea who took Tottenham's place when they were relegated to Division 2!
@@vincenzopatrone7048 Arsenal started off in Plumstead in Kent before moving to Woolwich. Then in 1913 we moved to Islington in North London four miles away from Spurs. They were in North London first. Even as a gooner I can't deny that. Maybe they should have got over it by now but they haven't. And won't. Check out the Derby Days series on Copa 90's TH-cam channel for the one on the North London derby for a sample of the feeling.
As for Chelsea taking the Spuds place yes they did, but that was based on a vote from other teams. Although never proven Arsenal's then chairman was claimed to have been involved in some shady shit to ensure Spurs lost the vote.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_London_derby
@@FunkyMonkey-ip4xy You are actually Wrong cos when Arsenal moved to Islington Tottenham was still a village in Middlesex Fact!
As London was a lot smaller back then Fact!
Tottenham didn't become part of london until 1959 Fact & wasn't part of Greater London until 1965 Fact!
And Tottenham isn't 4miles from Islington Infact Tottenham is 4miles from Stratford East London so much so it's only 2 stops from Tottenham Hale Station to Stratford Station!
There is one thing I learned after watching this video.
Don't mess with a Lazio or Roma fan.
There is one thing I learned after watching this video. Don't go there if you're black. Player or fan .
@@jediknight5600 if your really wanna be safe just don't go there
@@delorgesjunior2235 Correct. Agreed. And I won't. Ever.
@@jediknight5600 4har was gold, 🏆🔑🎖️
One thing I learned is that humans can corrupt everything beautiful!
Italy in general is divided because of how it always was.
Remember, most big cities were it's own kingdoms/republics (República Florentina, Repùblica de Venèsia etc) and would often fight each other.
While some people tried to untie them before(Cesare) they were divided until early to mid 19th century.
well you are going even too much in the past thinking about Caesar..
As a Roma fan, I feel two things need to be clarified. Yes, Roma historically had a left-wing firm in the Fedayn, but right-wing overtones are massively present in the Roma terraces as well, although the Lazio fans are more "easily" linked to extreme right-wing politics. Also, Lazio didn't really "stand up" to the regime in refusing the merger, as actually the merger was refused by a fascist general. And as long as there is a kind of extreme tone to some derbies around the stadium, it is lovely how the atmosphere around a derby unravels through the bars and streets of Rome, as fans of each team jeer each other.
Forza lazio
i'm a lazio fan and I completely agree. Roma and Lazio, like many other fan bases in Italy, are affected by destructive elements. However, when it comes to Lazio, this tends to make even more headlines due to incidents from 20-30-40 years ago, which, however, persist. I would also add that the Rome-Lazio derby is hard to comprehend from the outside; you have to experience it, and not just those two times a year, but all the time. There's a lot of rivalry, but within the Roman context, it's a rivalry filled with irony. At least, that's how I see it
@@Robben86 totally, as I said, the atmosphere of jeering each other is the best thing ever.
This is very accurate. Definitely different shades of right wing in the fanbases, but deeply rooted in both. I think the "Roma left wing" view comes from the new owners' push at making Roma marketable internationally (hello, Disneyland), as the "b-but Lazio are evil!" talk I see online comes from America-based Roma fans.
Its probably difficult to tell which parts of the rivalry are serious and which are not. Like the Anne Frank thing was a big story and of course made headlines, but has always been done for comical reasons rather than serious. An outsider might see that type of insult and think its a good representation of the two, but Roma (and the rest of us) regularly use the same insult towards Juve.
@@YevOnegin not at all. And there is a difference: Roma's left wing credentials have to do with a powerful group within the Roma tifo, the Fedayn, who were left wing. The Roma support was apolitical and included people from all the political arc. The American property doesn't count in this, and in fact it has been criticised for not going heavy on some banners with subtle right-wing simbology. As far as Lazio supporters are not all fascists and there have been initiatives by Lazio supporters to counter this image, a relevant part of the curva is unapologetically fascist, they are undoubtedly among the most right wing supporters in Italy and the aforementioned antifascist fans have even been physically attacked by other Lazio fans for that.
I would like to correct one of your statements in the video. Italian rivalries are not on regional basis, but more on municipal one.
Hi. Waht is regional? Sry me english is very bed
@Danny Isambard Back in the middle ages it was cities (or little more) fighting each other. Pisa against Livorno against Florence, Siena, etc... Tuscany is a great example of city rivalries. In Florence, there are rivalries even between different areas of the city!
@Danny Isambard not quite. There were a lot of city states, yes, but there were also bigger states, the biggest ones being the papal states, sardegna, Venice and Naples/sicily. But they were also ruled by other kingdoms. The Islands were ruled by greeks, arabs and spaniards, in the north there were german rulers, most notably the holy roman empire. Italy as a nation wasn't created until 1861 (yesterday was the anniversary) and the last regions were added after ww1. So there have been loads of influences and different rulers that has shaped the cultures of Italy and it's regions, which is part of the reason why a lot of regions have very distinct dialects and cultures, which they are very proud of
Make a story on Crvena Zvezda vs. Partizan (FC Red Star Belegrade vs. Partizan Belgrade - the iternal darby)
Really good explanation, there can be off course a lot of things to add, as a Roma fan myself I really appreciate your explanation and even if as a Roma fan will always feel the rivalry with Lazio, I really hope that both fan base can became more mature and stop to bring shame on the whole city and citizen.. but as you can aspect football is a mirror or better a sort of emergency valve for all those problem and situation lying under the civil society often with deep roots that are hard to eradicate.
Could you tell me why you have a rivalry with Napoli?? Arent the northerners a bigger problem?
I am a simple man, i see roots of the rivalry, i hit like.
Rangers v Celtic has to be on your list
Celtic v Rangers is the greatest rivalry in football..!!
These history videos deserve more views - love them!
Thanks for watching, everyone!
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Rabona TV Do one about El Clasico next month.
Adrian please do the Madrid or Seville Derby next
are you one of the voices on watchmojo?
Brazil vs Argentina pls
Palermo/Catania ;)
It's not as it's described... I'm from Rome and I have never seen physical violent.
Of course there is competition about who is the best but it's normal. I went to the stadium for the first time on a derby match when I was only 12 years old and nothing happened except for a very good and enjoyable match.
Forza Lazio 💙 🇮🇹
When you were 12 yes old??! How long ago was that??
Adesso c'è un altro Derby da giocare.
People always like to exaggerate and over hype things, are there dangerous lunatics on both sides? definitely, but it is always played up as it gets views, check out the ridiculous video Copa 90 did on the rivalry, it was so over the top.
Lmao then who beat up the Liverpool fans then Lazio fans?
Could you do a video about The Clasico between Chivas and America? Great video once again. When I watch these types of videos I always watch the player documentaries again. Keep up the great work.
Nah bunch of putos
Competition breeds greatness... 🇮🇹
7 shared league titles in almost a century?........
Tremendous!
@@CHlEFFIN bcuz italy has other great teams too
Competition breeds exploitation of workers under capitalism
Excellent work as always! 👍
I just saw your video about Pjanic`s transfer to Barcelona... Pjanic played for Roma and was loved from Roma fans until one derby match against Lazio! Lazio wins derby 1:0 and scorer was Lulic, Bosnian national player (and one of the captains in Lazio) and good friend from Pjanic... After the match, Pjanic said: the only good thing about this los is for him that the scorer was his friend... Roma fans hated him after this!
I went to Rome lazio derby last season what an atmosphere!!!
Do next river and boca
I think river boca is the deadliest rialry of the world
@@kuntalchatterjee280
I think that's way over exaggerated, i didn't knew how violent this derby was, and i think this one is even worse than River - Boca
River - Boca is just the worse in America
@@kuntalchatterjee280 Man they kill each other with knives and handguns!!
very good videos. started with the Milan split video. the videos actually educate a lot in terms of geopolitics. will be watching more of your work.
Being not Italian and specifically not a Roman, you did an outstanding job.
Lazio fans in Rome are mostly radicated in the upper class areas, while Roma fans are mostly to be found in lower class areas. Roma fans outnumber Lazio fans, that is true, but the majority of Roma fans just support the team to feel part of the majority. A Lazio fan picks Lazio because he (normally) truly embraces its traditions and identity. You said it too after all, the very first team ever founded in Rome was Lazio and not Roma, who just tried to convince Lazio to be part of them. It is an historical facy that Lazio refused Roma.
Lazio fans are amongst the most feared and specifically, creative fans in the world. They created some of the most incredible "coreografie", which is the reason why I became a Lazio fan. Roma fans were never able to live up to the Lazio standards. I still remember a derby when Roma fans weren't even able to unroll their banner. That is something very embarassing for any ultras crew.
When you go to Rome you seem to find a large majority of Roma fans around. Roma started a very efficinet marketing plan, opening stores all over the city. Lazio is way behind on that aspect, but there are plenty of Lazio fans all around the city.
Lastly, the most important derby ever was played on May 26th, 2013. Coppa Italia final was Lazio vs Roma. That was the final derby, the only derby in history that assigned a trophy. Lazio won that derby and that will be forever something that will hunt Roma's fan dreams. Media in Rome are super supportive for Roma and try to belittle Lazio all the times.
Lazio is the real, proud football representative of the city of Rome.
This guy knows his shit, respect
Hahaha please...!! Ok, you're laziale, so you're biased, and I'm romanista so i am too. But claiming that lazio is better at choreographies is pathetic, and so easily verified. The whole world knows about curva sud, all they know about the curva nord are the fascist salutes...
stefano paris Why do you lazio supporters always have to be such crybabies, nobody is trying to belittle you, and nobody puts Roma on a pedestal. The media treats the Capitals teams as what they are, average teams that achieve something sporadically, once in a while.
@@kevinmcnally8076 categorically untrue... Great recent examples include the attack on csk mosca fans captured on video and another video from a few games ago where a Roma fan throws a middle aged lady down a flight of stairs... Both incidents unreported on outlets such as corriere and gazzetta
Hey in the recent years i have started to see what a wonderful team Lazio is, hell i could even call it my favorite European team, not because of trophies and shit like that, but because of unyielding spirit and i can't help but notice the similarities between my local team and Lazio. Now see i live in Thessaloniki and there is an intense rivalry over here, Aris vs Paok. I'm an Aris fan. Lots of similarities that i can notice such as: 1.We were the first team founded in the city, with the exception of Iraklis, that team that has not seen good days since the early 80s and spends most of his time, fighting with exctinction, in the lower leagues. 2. Aris just like Lazio has most of its fans in upper class areas and Paok in lower class areas. 3. Paok fans outnumber Aris fans, but the majority of Paok fans just support the team to feel part of the majority and because its trendy. 4. Only a fan who truly comprehends and embraces Aris traditions and identity becomes a fan of our team. 5. Paok has been trying to destroy all other teams in Northern Greece, because they wanted to consume us essentially and they are still trying that. While they didn't officially asked us to join them per se, i see it as kind of a similar situation where we rejected their attempts to dominate us. 6. We have incredable fans too that know how to make our stadium vibrant and create an incredible atmosphere. 7. Paok ultras are cowards and the laughingstock of Greece, they are also very violent, though not at all feared. 8. Media and government are super supportive of Paok and essentially against us. 9. We have the us against everyone mentality more than any other team in Greece.
What you forgot to say was that Lazio has two European trophies besides the domestic ones. You've also made several more mistakes.
This was a great video but you forgot to mention the 2013 Coppa Italia final.
Because no one cares about the Coppa Italia lmao, it’s more like the League Cup in England, Italy needs a proper “FA Cup” competition
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Everybody cared about that derby even though Roma fans claim not to care about it 😂 have you not listened to Roma radio programs saying that this was the most important derby in the history of the two clubs? It’s because it was, and Lazio made history by winning it. The important thing was not the trophy or the UEL qualification, it was the fact that one of the two teams could “alzare la coppa in faccia” lift a trophy in front of the other team
I did learn something from this video.
I love how much rewatch value these have, I can't remember the info (which is why the rewatch) but I know the quality of the video itself was/is good
Thanks God, i found your channel. I really like the way you serve the history in an easy way. Thumbs Up!
That's a rivalry that exists since ancient Rome
Great Video!
Another banger 🔥
SS Lazio, you cant make this up. Roma was more sympathetic even before I knew about the past of the teams.
I looked a while ago in the history of this clubs for fifa cm and because of Totti/DeRossi. Quite fascinating as you can see in the video. So I am looking forward to see more vids with the topic rivalry 👍
Forza Lazio !!!!!
8:04 wrong, lazio fans in Roma are really few, it's not a split city like Milan or Sevilla, where there's a 50/50 situation.
No
@@valeriobregni3780 when i go to rome there are no lazio fans, in tivoli the town i live in about 30 mins away from rome every1 supports lazio
@@ninito0 la lazio è nata al centro di Roma
@@valeriobregni3780 e quanti ce ne stanno a roma?
@@ninito0 roma nord è pieno di laziali 😘
A few Derbys for the future : Ajax vs Feyenoord, Liverpool vs Everton or Manu, City vs United, Arsenal vs Tottenham, Villa vs Birmingham, Inter vs Ac Mailand, Real vs Barcelona, Atletico vs Real, Betis vs Sevilla, Valencia vs Villarreal, Barcelona vs Espanyol, Lyon vs Saint Etienne, Bvb vs Schalke, Hamburg vs St Pauli or Werder Bremen, Olympiakos vs Panathinaikos, Paok vs Aek or Aris, Partizan vs Crvena, Benfica vs Sporting, Celtic vs Rangers, Wydad vs Raja, Sparta Praha vs Slavia, Cska Moskva vs Spartak, Zagreb vs Hajduk, Galatasaray vs Fenerbahce, AL ahly vs Zamalek, Esperance vs Club African, Kaizer Chiefs vs Orlando Pirates, America vs Guadalajara, Flamengo vs Fluminense, Gremio vs Internacional, Mineiro vs Cruzeiro, Universidad vs Colo Colo, Sydney vs WS Wanderers
Newells Old Boys v Rosario Central if only for the fantastic Lepers v Scoundrels nicknames.
Just recently during a derby the fans threw flares at each other. Crazy.
great video. I'm a huge roma and travelled there to watch games many times (champions league included). the info on this video is spot on. great job. you got a sub!! 👍👍👍
Italy is literally full of rivalry i swear we've never gotten over the middle ages and city states I'm half sicilian half neapolitan but when i traveled to Italy when i was younger with my family every year we went at least once usually twice once with my dads side once with my moms and I've been to calcio games up and down the country its really amazing the unique cultures and rivalry you find within each region oh one more thing SEMPRE FORZA NAPOLI
im a lazio fan and i wanna point something out.Im Roman,I come from Rome so as my whole family so my roots are all from Rome ,we are all from Rome not from outside the city.What u sìaid about the "burini" thing is false and ill tell u why.When lazio was born in Rome there were 900.000 people in the city and at 1925 in Rome the population increased at 1.500.000 people thats because all italians who were coming to Rome for the job offers they all come from different regions of the countries and in order to identified themselves as roman and has not immigrants they were all supporting roma.As u said they were playing in testaccio a workindustry area so the real burini are them and not lazio fan cause we all come from ROme.And we called ourselves lazio not for the region because at that time "lazio" region didn't exist but because of Latius which translate from latin to italian is lazio.We are Rome.Rome and real roman roots supports Lazio and not as roma.AS ROMA MERDA.....FORZAA LAZIO 1900:daje lazio
Wonderful logic, Edoardo for hating your rivals! Not much civilized progress in 2,000 years. Congratulations.
66veteran it is NOT wonderfull logic. It’s called unaltered reality. He is telling you exactly how thngs are. Not to mention Lazio, on performance level has achieved more (just watch, soon will be cleared how Lazio should be champions of Italy 1914-1915, when Genoa was declared champion of NORTH of Italy, never facing Lazio, who went to WW1) . The only problem I’d say Eduardo makes is that he should tell you more about the history.
Prima squadra della Capitale SS Lazio !
@@ap7346 from a Chelsea fan lazio is my favorite italian club and i love Everything about the club its history fans and legends
@@ap7346 rome 🔵 and i hope you win the scudetto this season
Ma che cosa parli
I honestly didn’t get a word you just said
Roma ultras are right wing too.
justsay no No, Roma encompasses so many supporters that it does not have a specific political connotation, there is a right wing Romanista community a communist community so the Roma Firm does not bring politics in the stadium usually, while Lazio supporters have a strong far right or standard right wing identity.
Most of the Italians fans groups are right wing unfortunatly
In the 70's Roma's Ultras were left wing then starting in the 80's right wing fans became more vocal and gradually took over the Ultras not long after that. Now politics are rarely brought up. It is different from Lazio where the"'Irriducibili" because of Mussollini's well known sympathies for Lazio are very right wing and tho they are a minority rule the roost thru intimidation in the Curva Nord (North Side)
@@kevinmcnally8076 nope. roma fans are fascists as fuck.
@@kevinmcnally8076 lol just google roma nazi and look by yourself how many times they showed swastika at the stadium.
Love your analysis Mr. Adriano
L A Z I O use Greece colours and have Historic ties 🔵⚪...... Forza Lazio
Ahahahahah u have nothin to do with rome u and ur shity pigeon u have As a mascot
@@untifosoromanista63torloni12 apart from they are the oldest club in Rome and are named after the region but no your correct. Lol
@@AliG-yu2bn yes i am correct Rome is yellow and red... the colours the name and the simbol,the have a pigeon in pijamas
@@untifosoromanista63torloni12 He is actually correct, you muppet. The reason why lazio is blue and white is because of Greece. (ancient Greece was the biggest cultural influence on the roman empire. they even took over their religion and just changed the names). And the reason why they have a golden eagle is because of Zeus.
@@Revan-eb1wb no not zeus dont say bullshit
If there is a team to represent Rome, that has ALWAYS been and will be SS LAZIO 1900 !
I agree! I’m from England and lazio is my favourite team other than my own. I love your fans! Real moody passionate footbal fans! This is unfortunataly lacking in England now! maybe one day I could join the lazio fans in the stadio olimpico to watch lazio play! Greeting from Blackpool, England. 🦅🔵⚪️
Neither club can be proud of the fascists among their "supporters". Like many fascists, they are also cowards of the worst kind who act "bravely" when they have knives in their hands. If they were stripped of their weapons, the only activity they would excel at would be running away from anyone who stood up to them. Their fellow citizens MUST be ashamed of the pondlife who dwell amongst them. Thousands of brave allied armed forces as well as true Italian patriots fought and some sacrificed their lives to free Italy from the evils of fascism. These so-called "ultras" stain the good name of Italian sport and sportsmanship and the sooner both clubs ban them all; the better. Viva Roma!
Not all ultras are fascist
Napoli fans are like this. They all act cool with knives and attack small group of people in hundreds.
You could do a video about the rivarly beetween Boca Juniors x River Plate, Gremio x Internacional (Brazil)
Excellent journalism mate
Dynamo Kiev has similar problems. The casual fans and the majority of the stadium are normal people. However many of the ultras are racist, violent fascists. Though, Dynamo doesn't compare to the extremism of Karpaty Lviv. They are one of the worst in Europe.
Good research. Thanks for the vid!
Thumbs up to Lazio fans for standing up and saving their club. Similar thing happened to my favorite club Zeljeznicar Sarajevo. We were established 1921by the group of local railworkers. 1946 in that time communist government created FK Sarajevo by simply ordering our players to switch the club or could face a jail time. Only few players had guts to stay. But with a huge support from the fans we survived. Totally understand Lazio fans in that way where from the native club they almost push you out of scene. FORZA LAZIO
They should make a video about Galatasaray v Fenerbache
great series keep it up here are some ideas for other videos Tottenham vs Arsenal Tottenham vs Westham, Westham vs Milwall, arsenal vs Chelsea, Chelsea vs Fulham ,liverpool vs Man u , man U vs Manchester city , Newcastle vs Boro, Newcastle vs Sunderland Aston villa vs Birmingham , Celtic vs rangers , PSG vs Marseilles ,Bayern vs BVB ,Shalke 04 vs BVB. Real Madrid vs Althletico Madrid ,Juve vs inter Ahly vs Zamalek (Egypt)
You forget fc Barcelona vs RCD español
The only one that stands out is Celtic v Rangers
Lovely channel mate, quality content.
I apparently talked to an agent for Lazio, boy that would have been fun 😦 imagine playing for any top team
You should do derby between Ex Yugoslavina legue because in it there were two croatian clubs (Dinamo Zagreb and Hajduk Split) and two serbian clubs (Crvena zvezda and Partizan) and they hated so much that they even started a war between Croatia and Serbia
Good videos, mate. Keep it up. I've subscribed.
In reality burino are Roma fans as they were founded later and immigrants from outside that came later joined Roma. Lazio founded in 1900. Roma was a merge of smaller teams in 1927 .
And yes the Dice did good things for Italy that's reality, as well bad things as merging with germany.
Lazio founded in center of Rome. Roma merged in Abruzzo corropoli out of roma
I do have two questions:
1. What does "Latius" from latin mean?
2. Where do lazio fans in Rome come from exactly? In which parts of Rome do they live? Never been in the capital, but i heard the capital city is full of as roma fans.
Grazie!
@@alincostincroitoru1535 Lativm Venus was the old place around Rome where Rome is borned. Lazio fans are more around nord part of Rome, rich people, but all around the city, there are not much special side.
@@sinner7619 Thank you!
As much as I look forward to news about Ciro Immobile, the team colours are more Greek for my taste
Mussolini wasn't a fan of lazio. Moreover a lazio player, ivo bitetti, caught mussolini. A lazio legend, Maestrelli, was a partisan
A ridicolo, te le mando io le foto della sud col banderione con falce e martello.
Ani 70 andava di moda essere comunisti e voi comunisti. Adesso fate i fasci. Non avete identità. Noi da sempre coerenti, pure a metà abbi 70 quando vi portavate agli scontri tutta autonomia operaia de roma. Anni 77/79. Io avevo 12 anni ma lo so bene e ricordo bene le mani vostre tutte a p38
(Se non dai che vuole dire informati)
Vuoi rigirare la storia, ma la storia lascia testimonianze troppo nette
Spero tu sia giovane se no sei veramente un poraccio
What happened to the roots of the rivalry episode for Benfica and Sporting ?
Do vids on the Schalke/Dortmund rivalry and Der Klassiker! And maybe some MLS rivalries?
American MLS?? Wtf??
Forza Lazio Ale👍🏼💙
I'm new to football. I like Immobile and Mancini, but my family is from Pescara. I don't think it would be fun cheering for a Serie C team.. and apparently there's a rivalry with Lazio. Any advice picking a Serie A team to cheer for?
You can’t just pick a team and be a loyal fan… but if you still want a team to cheer for and to be proud of, I’d go for one of the two Rome clubs, Genoa or Sampdoria, Torino, Lecce or clubs like these. They all have a great history (except for Lecce) and their fans are very passionate. I’d suggest doing more research if you want the best, but again, you’ll need to be interested with a team and actually fall in love with it. Oh and if you really like Immobile, he made history with Lazio and he was a really great striker until last year, so Lazio could be your choice
Can you research Glasgow Celtic & Rangers fierce rivalry please. Rangers recently went bust and re-emerging after rebuilding being thrown out of the league and Aberdeen became their fierce rivals. This would be most interesting to me because I am Scottish and I believe the Scottish rangers v Celtic games are the oldest.
Do one of Nacional-Peñarol, Uruguay's Clash of Titans.
Anda ir would be nice a Boca-River.
Great series !!
Decent video but politically there are some wrong claims. Mussolini was not a fan of Lazio or football in general. He just used it as a vehicle to spread his fascist ideals, just like other political leaders have done all over the world. He was always more of a rugby fan, as that was the upper class sport.
As for the fans: Roma ultras also have a far right element amongst them, it's definitely not a Lazio ultra thing alone. There's actually a very good book about it called: Football, Fascism and Fandom which has interviews with ultras of both clubs about their politics. They make it clear that while they hate each other on the terraces, they have the same political ideology and band together over this in a political sense.
As someone from the States who is just getting into football and learning more about the history, the hooliganism is so weird to me. Stuff happens here sometimes for intense games when things get heated, but the hooligans seem to be on another level.
Nice info
How about the Eternal Derbies in Serbia and Croatia, and Derby of Eternal Enemies in Greece?
Please make a video on RIVALRY between MANCHESTER UNITED and LIVERPOOL..as we are fast approaching this game this weekend...and yes you’re doing a great job keep it up 👍🏻
You'll be a happy man tomorrow. 😉
fedayen roma’s ultras group has an arabic root and it means the same in arabic!
Well spotted, my friend!
What does it mean in Arabic ?
I have 2 questions: S.S Lazio was founded on the 9 of JANUARY 1900 - Roma x?- 1926-1927/ 1.Titel 1941-42 Serie A-when al Italian players were enlisted in the army - WWII - only that Italo Foschi beg'd Mussolini not to enlist any Roma players!
Thank you for doing this. Learned a lot! Forza Roma
that proves u didnt learn anything...forza lazio
Hey Matteo Darmian
He has a lot of free time
I actually thought that this derby was not that „derby atmosphere like“, but now I know it is. I thought that this is more like a normal game 😂. It isn‘t
Please do the analyisis of the Belgrade Derby, FC Red Star vs FC Partizan.
come on lazio!
PS- you should do the celtic/rangers one on october 28 (when their fans meet in that gong show cup semi final lol)
Dude u wrote Serie a as seriea a in the description
Do an episode on the Serbian Eternal Derby
You should do one on Newell's Old Boys and Rosario Central, wich divides Argentiba's 2nd largest City
Love them both 😍.
*Inserts a Jimmy Conrad*
"ROMA ROMA ROMA"
Roma MERDA
Do one of aston villa and Birmingham city
They only play each other every blue moon!
Please make a video on ManchesterUtd and Liverpool derby or City United derby
Manchester derby has only been big for 10 years. Not much history to it
Very good informative video. But can I just add that Roma is not the oldest city, I think Napoli (Naples) is
I'll be going to the derby in September 2019. Peace from Canada.
Part 1:28 Messi great grandfather
You threw lot of bullshit about Lazio.
The BPL is so sanitized compared to Serie A
Please Adrian do the Madrid or Seville Derby 🙏
could you please do a German Derby? Dortmund vs Schalke or Bremen vs Hamburg
It will be great if you make one video on Ruhr Derby
Altrincham vs Macclesfield.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 good yin ...! 👍 lol
Maybe, next time you produce a video about Roma and Lazio, you should get better informations. -_-
Plz plz pleaaasse make a video on steal city rivalry...Wednesday agains Blades..
I like Roma and I like Lazio!! Why does everybody have to hate each other?
As a bengali , I know what is Darby . Because I witnessed of the Asia most famous Darby East Bengal and mohun bagan darby
As Roma has always won more trophies and had better placements in the league, although Lazio won the Uefa Super cup against Man Utd. Roma never won such a prestigious trophy yet.
Lazio also beat Roma in the only cup they ever played eachoter: 2013 LAZIO WON!
By the way, don't you think ordering teams to bend together or refusing to do so to be more "right wing"?
Lazio have got 16 trophies. Roma have got 14. So...
@@llaudiocotito7582 from a Chelsea fan lazio is my favorite italian club and i love Everything about the club its history fans and legends
rome 🔵 and i hope you win the scudetto this season
Forza Roma!!good video well explained Roma caput mundi.
You should do mls derbu
I love the video and story. Kenya 🇰🇪 is watching
Alan Shields
Hamilton
South Lanarkshire Scotland .
Keep up the good work.
One team or two?
Nothing in football is "senseless" not even the violence. Its all part of the game and the history, like it or not.
Waiting for your video on AFC AJAX and Feyenoord (Feyenooit)