Really clear presentation. Have spend several days trying to find a way to have the instrument panel always readable, especially the speed at a glance at a sufficient level of zoom and this looks a very good option. Thanks so much for your putting this out there.
Thank you for your explanation. I keep an eye on it. With the support of FS2020 and a Knobster DIY, it should be a good investment in a small home cockpit.
Thank you Russ, this is perfect to get me started. Got 2 kids 10yrs old, I will be learning to fly over the coming 24 months, and I'm part of EAA Chapter 406 in WA state where we started building an electric-powertrain equipped Sonex 2-seater motorglider (Xenos). I wanted to dive into Sim because, oh well, because it's great, and Im going through some of your videos to guide my escalating involvement into all this. I might buy XP12 when it comes out, but for now I'll try FS2020 with the setup you propose here. Anyway. Thanks for the inspiration and keep on trucking !
First video. Been playing FS2020 for a few weeks and you've got my attention with this panel. Gonna follow your channel and see what else you roll out for this amazing game.
In the process of building a SimSamurai home cockpit at the moment and Air Manager is the way I'd like to go. I have today purchased a Planer Systems PCT2235 22" touch screen from BHPhoto for just over US$200, before I saw your video. Recommended to me by a fellow simmer, so hopefully it's as good as this one. Waiting for the sales before purchasing my third LG 27" monitor, so hopefully it'll be up and running by December. Subbed to your channel and very much looking forward to future updates.
Hi Russ, Thank you for the panel! I just downloaded the Beta and trying Air Manager for the first time on an Ipad. Works great! I just wanted to note that the OAT gauge wasn't appearing on the runtime panel so I took a look at it in the lua code viewer and noticed it was missing a parens on line 82 of the 'else if' statement. Once I added the missing parens the gauge ran in the debugger and on the panel. I am looking into purchasing a larger touch screen monitor as I would also like to have radios accessible on the touch screen. Thanks again for all of your useful videos, I really enjoy them. Looking into purchasing the Knobster as well. Take care!
You're video inspires me a lot. I'm using free app spacedesk to drag and drop instrument panels to iPad air as second screen but did not know that was also possible with MSFS2020 cockpit panels. Cool. I've shared your video into two big Facebook groups so you can expect a lot of feedback ;-)
Hi Russ. I set up a G1000 Panel for the C172 in MSFS following the instructions in the video by Ivansky. I am using AM 4 and I used your G1000 bezel. My main screen for cockpit view is a large display running at 2560X1440. I am trying to use my Winmaxit screen (1920 X 1080) for Air Manager. The Winmaxit gets the video signal from an HDMI cable connected to my video card. I also have a USB C to USB A cable plugged into the Winmaxit and my computer. The USB C end is plugged into the "Type C" port on the Winmaxit and the Type A end of the cable is connected to my computer. I went through the touchscreen calibration procedure in Windows and I calibrated the Winmaxit touch screen. My problem is that when I scroll on let's say the Baro knob, the cockpit view on my main monitor zooms. When I click on any of the buttons on the Air Manager overlay, nothing happens. When I touch the Back button on the G1000 bezel (lower right next to Alerts) I notice the right yoke turn blue on the main large screen (cockpit view). The touchscreen is configured properly for the Winmaxit, but my key presses are not translating properly over to the large screen. Do you have any idea what I can be doing wrong? Thank you! Andy
Two separate issues: To eliminate the zooming look at your MSFS mouse control settings and remove the zoom in ans zoom out that is default set to use the scroll wheel. The touch screen issue is that you may not have correctly calibrated the touch screen so it thinks your touch grid is over the other monitor and is transferring the touch inputs to that other screen.
@@rbarlow Thank you for the reply! I did not see a way in Windows to calibrate my Winmaxit screen to my large screen. Can you tell me how that is done?
@@rbarlow I figured out the problem. Windows Firewall was preventing AM4 from communicating with MSFS. I created exception for both programs and now all is well. Again, THANK YOU for your help and your excellent videos! Keep up the awesome work that you do for the Sim Community!
Somebody needs to develop a VR glove and knobster for VR. That would REALLY bring VR flying forward and more practical. Because the problem for VR now, how do you interact with the controls? The way this could work would be, you have a VR glove. The glov detects you grab/touch something. The knobster could be made to work with the knobs in VR. So if you had a glove, you can always interact with the panel, run the knobs with the knobster by just touching them, and easily interact with radios, then grab your physical controls no problem. It sure would make paying the difference for VR worth it, and turn the sim to a training aid.
This is the only way to make home simulators work for pilots that already hold their IFR ratings etc. All the VR stuff is useless . The little knob you use and the touch screen that allows for keeping displays as if in a real plane. I´m very excited about this path into useful home simulation .
Thanks for that. I was thinking of a touchscreen for Sim use and on researching, found your video. The touchscreen would be epic with the GTN 750 (FSX for the moment) but the options with knobster are intriguing. I am thinking about making a cheap panel with one screen and also a good android tablet as screen 2 (this works wonderfully with the GTN via Spacedesk) and for FS2020, the TBM or CubX could be a good mix. Certainly, the options for G1000 with knobster are going to have me thinking here. Again, thanks for the video. I enjoyed it immensely.
Hello, Russ. I truly love your instructional videos and are the "go to" when I'm wanting to know something about flight simming and Air Manager. In trying to make my own home cockpit I am needing to know if the 15.6" screen will show Air Manager instruments true to their size (in regards to actual instrumentation gauges) or if a larger screen would be needed. Thank you for all that you do.
the view area on a 15.6" monitor is 13.6" wide and 7.6" high. Standard sized instruments are about 3.5" diameter including bezel so at full size( use 3.25" as close enough, keep the bezels small) you can place 2 rows X 4 columns. That's a six pack( with HSI for VOR 1) plus a second VOR and Tach. This calculator will help you figure screen sizes screen-size.info/ , Remember the as the screen gets bigger an HD monitor is still 1920 X1080 pixels even though larger on a larger monitor and you can fit more life-sized instruments on it, they may not be as sharp as the pixels get bigger.
Neat. What would be perfect is if you could get 2 of your touch monitors side by side and then split them horizontally 1/3, 2/3. And then be able to put the dash on the upper 1/3 and all the instruments on the lower 2/3's. It would also be better to have the bar on the window panels disappear but that might be a windows/Asobo thing. The reason I was thinking of this split is so your main monitor can be outside view only.
Not sure I follow you. What do you mean Dash? Instruments? The bar on the windows panels?It may just be me but I don’t quite understand the big picture on what you’re writing maybe you could try again please. Thanks
@@rbarlow The part above the 6 pack and below the window. The idea is use the big monitor for looking outside and then split up 2 monitors below for instruments and the dash.
We really need some G2000 panels for MSFS. I just purchased my knobster, but I guess I'm going to have to learn to code to use it with the TBM/Business jets I like to fly 😔😔😔
Russ, Thanks for parenting Knobster into existence. Why don't you do the same with the aluminum panel? There must be a lot of folks wanting to set up your rig as shown in the videos but who have no access to the tools required to cut, bend, and drill that panel. I'll have to find a machine shop willing to do a little one-off job like that, something I'd rather not do during the pandemic. However, you could persuade Sim Innovations to get them made in batches of 100 (just for example) and sell them at a profit. Call it the "Barlow Knobster Bracket."
Probably better if I keep my name out of it. Actually, I was thinking that Stay Level Avionix might be a good partner to build that. They do great work.
Russ Barlow True. They are fabricators by trade. Have you approached them about it? If not, there's no time like the present! Meanwhile, I'm happy to learn that you've considered getting the panels manufactured for sale. There's a great need, and with the introduction of MSFS, a rapidly growing market.
To be honest, honeycomb aeronautical has announced that they have a somewhat similar product on the roadmap. But I think it comes after the rudder pedals they have planned after the throttle quadrant is yet to be released. I have spoken with him about another project and he has built a couple dual monitor cockpits using Knobster, so I’ll give him a call tomorrow and see what he thinks. Thanks for giving me a nudge. I’m retired and trying to make any money off of this it’s just not worth it because I really value the freedom to go and do what I want and simulation.
Russ Barlow That's interesting. If you look at the Bravo, it appears that they've made it the same height as the Alpha so that a panel can be made to span both adjacent units. Honeycomb would be a natural partner for this project, although I sense that they wouldn't be as agile as Stay Level in producing prototypes.
Thank's for all the hard work Russ I always enjoy your videos. I love the Knopster and use it in X-plane. Do you have a link for the bridge software to use it Flight Simulator? Thank's again.
Check the Sim Innovations wiki page. There is a beta app and beta plugin as well as the username and password.for the BETA. The beta will not overwrite your current 3.7 version or any data. It is separate. Knobster will work as it interfaces with Air Manager so it needs no new software
I appreciate your contributions to the community Russ. You're definitely a trailblazer!! One question, did your touchscreen come with the screw holes on the back? I just got a couple of touchscreens from Walmart but they did not come with the screw holes on the back so I am not sure how to mount them.
It is just the beta plugin installer on the wiki page( near top). The installer will look for each sim installed on your computer and automatically I stall the plugin(or bridge for FD2020
@@rbarlow Thanks so much. Just setup my new prechen monitor, both the Beta and 3.3 air manager. My knobster will be hear on monday from Xforce. your video are great help
Great Video!! Thanks so much for sharing. Do you have a video and/or more details on how the touch screen hardware is connected? I like to understand how to configure 2 touch screens with X Plane 11 - G1000 PFD on one and the MFD on the other. Thanks!
The monitors each need to be connected to the computer running the simulator so you can place the popped out displays on the monitors.They also need a usb connection for the touch screen signal they also need a power connection. If you have more than two scenery displays too you may run out of graphics ports. Performance with a lot of monitors could be an issue too. This video my answer some questions you have th-cam.com/video/ZOdI__BMat4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Russ, First of all congratullation for the good work you are doing. I build a sim panel with two monitors Wimaxit model M1560CT2 to work with a FS2020 and I'm also plan to incorporate a Knobster. Althought the monitors are, so they say, touch screen type, I only manage to make it work on one of them if it's choosen as a main monitor. If the main monitor is the wall one, the touch function is there but the buttons and switches on the panel are not sensitive to the touch. My question is, are there any setting or adjustment to be done on the computer graphics to allow the touch function to be fully active and the wall monitor to be the main monitor. Thanks in advance for your help...
Victor it sounds like you haven't calibrated your monitor's touch system. If windows senses a touch monitor it assumes the touch grid is located aligned with the upper left corner of the main monitor. If there is more than one touch monitor you need to calibrate the touch system. Go to settings and search for "Calibrate" and you will see a choice "Calibrate the screen for pen or touch input" . Select that and follow the directions. It will cycle through each monitor ( the screen will turn white with text directions). It will tell you to touch each monitor if it is touch or press ENTER if not to continue through the monitors. After you are done it will know how to correlate touches with the correct monitor. The following video will demo the process starting a timestamp 0 :33
@@rbarlow did that and they are both working. Just waiting for the knobster to arrive to install it and fine tune the set up...Thanks very much Russ for the support. Kind Regards, Vitor
You can download the beta 4.0 from the wiki and install it you also need the beta plug-in from the wiki. It will install a separate application and will not touch your current 3.7 edition or any of its files. If you read through the wiki it will provide you with the username and password you need to use for the beta edition. It will expire before the Release version of 4.0 is issued.
@@rbarlow hi Russ.I installed version 4.0, (I have installed in my Pc xplane with versión 3.7...)but According with the note it has, I have to actívate the product.when I put my user and password, it does not work.The question is I need to pay for a New subscription?thanks in advance!
Russ i have seen the seen the one mounting bracket that u had made with the holes for the knobster , and i do like the set up very well as well, two things one : i all ready have a 22" touch screen and with out the knobster could one use this mount bracket to put the 22" screen on ? and the second Q. is where and how does one get the bridge for 2020. i hope that it is easy to set up ? thanks for your input on this matter D.
In order to use Air Manager with MSFS you need to download the beta version of the program from the same innovations wiki. You also need the new plug-in which I called the bridge application which will be installed automatically when you run the plug-in installer. You will need to use the username/password given in the instructions to activate the beta version of Air Manager 4.0 The beta should continue to work until the version 4.0 is officially released. Then I think it is a 50% price discount to upgrade. I am afraid a 22 inch monitor would not fit onto the bracket that is being sold by several vendors but you could easily make your own following the instructions that I included in my first video when I was building a do it yourself version. It’s a simple design made of a sheet of aluminum that has been drilled in mounted onto the honeycomb yoke. You might look for a mounting bracket that has the ability to adjust up and down so that you could set the top of the monitor to match the glareshield of different aircraft. That is one drawback with it mounted onto the yoke is that it cannot be adjusted in on some airplanes the instrument panel is partially visible above the top of the monitor.
Hi Russ. I use air manager but lm wondering why there is not and option to use head tracking without the main screen panel, lm talking about the simulators.You have the separate monitor with air manager but having the main display with the cockpit is a litle redundant. I understand that is the way to have a 3D capabilities. I found one unfinish plane in xplane10 list that doesn't have a cockpit but surprisingly the panoramic view works with head tracking. I just want to bring the option in order to avoid using three monitors for the center and lateral panoramic views.
Can you please in detail describe the physical connections to/from the touch panel. I can understand a HDMI display on the touch panel from the computer graphics card, but I didn't see how the HDMI signal support touch controls.
Russ, I purchased the 2 of the touchscreen 15" monitors. I have them all hooked up and can undock the screens down to the monitors. I have the computer setup for touchscreen, but MSFS2020 doesn't allow me to touch the screen and change anything. Do I have to have AirManager to do this? I have looked at AirManager and can see your G1000 panel overlay. I guess I'm confused. I'm really wanting to to the G1000 setup with PFD and MFD. I think I have watched all your videos and got the idea for my panel build with dual touchscreen from you.
Have you tried Zibo 737-800 on x-plane yet? It's about all I fly here these day, mainly wellington to Auckland and Queenstown is a nice tricky airport to fly in to.
There are lots of tutorials already online at Sim Innovations website and TH-cam. Go to the wiki and it explains things siminnovations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Yes it could work but two things are holding me back. First FS2020 doesn’t support multi monitors except with Nvidia surround which stretches the image badly on the outer edges and looks terrible after XP multi views. Second, it doesn’t support key events yet so many Air Manager instruments won’t work completely. When either of these are fixed I will install FS2020 on this simulator
It will work but unless you have XP on the same computer you will have no pop out screen to place behind the bezel. The buttons and knobs will still work on a networked computer though...without a display screen.
I'm holding out till i see a good 3 panel nVidia surround and fourth panel for instruments. (as i have now in FSX 3x 720p tv's plus one 24"monitor). Air manager seems a way to go. Can the we get rid of the 3D cockpit in external views? Does 2020 allow panels to pop out or is that Air manager process?
I want three unique views to each of the three visual monitors that allow setting offset angles and field of view on each. The surround creates a virtual single wide monitor on the three and the stretching of the image toward the outside edges is a dealbreaker for me. So far MSFS doesn’t allow a scenery only view. It does allow popping out the NAV display screens but so far the Asobo SDK hasn’t added all the Events that are needed to control them from an Air Manager bezel. Hopefully soon.
what is the brand and size of the monitor? do u hav model number? where did you purchase the scrolling knob on the side of monitor? is it easy to install to the msfs2020 sim?
Hi Russ, I went looking for the monitor with VESA mounts at Amazon but it was out of stock last week so I picked up one of these intead: Planar Helium PCT2235 Touch Screen 22" It's heavier than the model you have, coming in at around 8 lbs. Do you think the Honeycomb will have any issues with this extra weight? I'd like to take a similar approach with the aluminum and knobster. This is my 4th knobster, I bought two of the originals and now two of the Sim Innovation models with usb C. Love them!
As long as the frame can hold the weight and the center of gravity is close to the being over the mounting holes it is probably okay. I found a new 15.6” Wimaxit with VESA and it is all flat edge to edge glass front touchscreen. At Amazon
@@rbarlow Thanks Russ. I have a Eyoyo 15.6 inch Touchscreen Monitor coming on Sunday. It's another one with vesa mounts that looks similar to what you have in the video. The Planar monitor was just too big for this application imo.
Mr, Barlow, I am working on my Flight Sim using MSFS 2020 plus the updates. A couple of question, first how do you get the Air Manager instrument panel to the monitor (Wimaxit 15.6 touch) Have made a bracket to hold this monitor on top of my Cessna yoke along with a knobster. My main monitor is a 32 in Dell. Right now working on getting Real Sim Garmin GNS 530 up and running correctly.
Are there any flight instruments that would utilize three encoder knobs dials verses the two that are currently available via the Knobster. Do you see a need or "utility" for three encoders within a single "Knobster II" product moving forward for example?
Alt V7 since the concept is to simulate the selected knob from the panel I can o lay think of one triple knob in my experience. I flew a B737-200 that had an ADF with triple knobs for the frequency in kHz. One was the lowest ones digit. The second the tens digit. And the third went from 17 to 10 for the hundreds digit. I think a triple encoder would be hard to find too.
My ViewSonic TD2410 touchscreen will not operate as touch screen. I have updated windows 10, reinstalled touch screen driver, monitor driver, adjusted the connections, updated video card driver. I just can't get the touch feature to work. Can you think of something else to do to get it to work? It works good as a regular monitor. I have the HDI connected and the USB connected between the monitor and the computer box. Frustrated!
I've had ProSim737 for years, and I decided to update my processor and they want me to rebuy it, I couldn't do it out of principle, I'm actually getting more excited about getting a simpler setup that just works and doesn't require me flipping a million switches as ProSim requires. Can you set this in the startup folder so it just pops up , and networking too is no problem?
Thank for the video. Excellent. I have just set up a three monitor system. The monitors are connected to the three outputs of my GPU. Is there a best way to get a four output for this monitor? Thanks
Two options Use the internal graphics on the motherboard if available…need to enable in the bios. Or. Use a usb docking station like a Pluggable which work great
hi Ross hope you ok , i have installed air manager 4 and i bought the knobster ,my problem is when i touch the screen on any instrument to turn the dial it doesn't lit up i have calibrated my screen to input touch am i missing any other step
Hello Russ, I am spending the day consuming many of your setup videos. Just got done watching the one showing how you have the 2 computers setup, one with Air Manager and XP the other more powerful with the 3 monitors. Now I have a question on how this MSFS is set up as you are only running 2 monitors. Are you still using the 2 computers? And when pooping out the panels from MSFS, are you able to make setting changes to the MFD or PFD? Knobster only works with Air Manager correct? Thanks
I only had one monitor for scenery in MSFS so all three were on a single computer. It isn’t possible to network computers in MSFS yet. Knobster only works with Air Manager and I would create a overlay bezel for the popped out displays but the SDK doesn’t support Key Events yet so it really can’t be done yet. I am afraid despite the beautiful scenery in MSFS that the same just isn’t ready for home cockpit use yet. It may be a while as I think their main focus is getting the VR stuff going as soon as possible. Also, for me until there is support for three monitors with geometrically correct views it’s just not quite worth the trouble.
@@rbarlow Thank you, your reply is greatly appreciated. I am going to spend the time and expense getting Xplane to where I need it. Heck, after 2 touch screen monitors, a knobster, mounting hardware and required software, I figure its about the same as 4-5 hours 172 rental time. At this point I need proficiency to finish my CFII, so its a no brainer. One last question, I am assuming 2 copies of Xplane and 1 copy of Air Manager are needed for the software? Thanks again.
Thanks you for this video, i wonder if I can asing any other knob to air manager (I have som in my hardware that are not in use).. Really the price for knobster is way to hi for home simer..
It may be way too high but they can’t keep them in stock so compared to some of the high cost items required for swimming in a home cockpit it it’s a real bargain. There is a section on the sim innovations wiki that explains how you can create your own DIY Knobster. Just need a dual encoder with push button and a Arduino nano. The software and everything else is there.We included for home simmers who wanted to save and not spend money for the plug and play model that is sold.
@@rbarlow okej i understand but frankly there's not to much in stock now days..and I know that with this solution i can save a lot of money in som others simhardwere but is a compromise solution to .my cuestion is if there is any way to asing my knobs I could use 2 off these and they have pusch to
I would like to purchase the Knobster but, I can not get Air Manager BETA for FS2020 to recognize the available G1000 instruments for my Cessna (G1000). No problem getting any C172 instrument to work.
What panel are you using for the G1000....which Air Manager bezel? It may not have been adapted for FS2020 yet.This beta is fairly new so much of that has not been done yet.
Hi Russ, I had some trouble using the touch screen features. I put together a similar display on a touchscreen, but I had to use joystick buttons to set landing gears / flaps. Any suggestions?
Nice video! I am really tired of panning around to see my gauges. I've been looking for a way to get panels off the main screens and this looks like the perfect solution. I already have the some aluminum so all I need is the monitor and metal brake. I also have a USB switch box I use for racing which has several rotary switches and buttons which shows up under game controllers. Am I correct in assuming I could use two rotaries and a single button on that box to mimic the Knobster? Thanks!
Actually the Knobster uses a proprietary microprocessor but there is a DIY version based on a Arduino Nano that you can build. The software and encoder arrangement is on the sim innovations wiki under Knobster. Cheap to build if you have basic soldering skills and a nano and dual push button encoder. You could build for less than $40 not including a case if you buy parts.
Excellent! If ya don't mind, I'd also like to recommend "Matric", an android app, that will allow touch/remote control. For the price, works great and many have android tablets already.
Cool vid, great idea Russ! Please, would you answer for me two short questions? 1. Would be possible switching on-the-fly among more layouts/profiles of Air manager on a single LCD - eg. between G1000 PFD and MFD? 2. Would be possible to use Air Manager now or in the future to control touch display of G3000 (e.g. for TBM 930 or King Air)? Thnaks very much in advance for the answers.
You can create what you describe with Air Manager panels but if you overlay the popped out displays from the sim I don’t know how you could swap them as well from PFD to MFD
Good work Russ. So is SimInovations ever going to add some more full panels for purchase? I have not seen much development for purchased panels on the site other than one from you.
The one I would like to see published for a start is the Zibo Cockpit panel you had demonstrated on here a while back. I think I spend more time in the Airliners than I do with any other Aircraft. Having flown only general aviation aircraft in real life I find it rather boring and am really pushing my self to learn more about the larger more complicated aircraft but constantly having to use the mouse and keyboard to switch views and such to operate the panels really takes away form the realism , for me any way. I have a huge amount of equipment here and would like to use it to the best of my abilities and incorporate the 3 Knobsters I have. Thank you for your time.
Grace Summit Church Saitek rediirects to Logitech and all their driver does on windows 10 is act as a test program. FS2020 doesn’t see it. Logitech has been telling me for months they are “working” on it...
Im using tablets for touch screen input and its really spotty and frustrating ... Is this different ? do you have any comments on this ? Im using Xplane 11 and MSFS 2020. I have ordered the Honey comb setup to get a hardware device for all GPS and NAV inputs.
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It works now with Air Manager 4.0 beta available free on the wiki until it is released hopefully pretty soon. Some of the pay panels are not working with FS2020 completely yet because of incomplete features in the SDK for MSFS. Just download from the wiki page and you need the beta plug in too. Good news is that it is separate from the current version so you can use both. Get the beta username/password from the wiki to activate the beta.
@@rbarlow Thank you. I am a newbie, and currently have 4 monitors, none of which are touch screen. if i get the small 15.6 inch one, can i hook it up w USB C, and still have it work...ie i would then have 5 monitors. And w/ USB C only would it support touch fundtion? thanks much. Separate question: is there any value to knobster on a NON touch screen monitor using air manager 4.0 beta. I am mostly flying the cessna 152, and not sure really what monitor changes you would need knobster for? I dont have g1000.
A bit confused, does FS2020 support Multi-Monitors, & did you have the chance to experiment FS2020 with he Arduino, Raspberry PI & or a second Computer ????
Nope. No multi view monitors yet. Only surround which stretches and distorts the outer edges of the side monitors. Air Manager interfaces with The sim over your LAN so it can be in another computer from the sim . Raspi too. Arduino Interfaces with Air Manager or Air Player directly via USB so it will work as long as the sim is compatible.... need Air Manager 4.0 beta. FS2020 Not supported und AM 3.7 .
@@rbarlow tnx Russ ... so you can get the Client NOD (PC, Arduino, or Res PI) to AM and have the instrument displayed on the client Display, did I get it right ?
Hi Russ, do you intend to adapt your G1000 Overlay to the new FS2020? Would be really great and would be a very good reason to decide for Air Manager Cheers, Juergen
ok thanks, so I think we can only wait for the MSFS Team to do some further steps in improving the SDK to provide some more features to allow for cockpit building.
Russ, I am building a simulator and would like to use either three screens (preferably) or a large curved monitor. Do you know if MS plans to add the multiple monitor capability? Thanks
How many assignments can you actually have on one single 2560mega? Would I need 15 mega boards to setup a 172 panel with every switch, dial, and button for max realism? Non touch on Air Manager with standard monitor screen behind a mask, 3D printed bezels and such.. Thx!
The 2560 has 54 digital input/output pins. A simple two position switch or momentary closed push button needs one pin. Each dial needs two pins, one for each direction of rotation. So the dual knob encoder with push button on the G530 would use 5 pins. You can do the math but I would guess(only a guess) 2 megas would do it.
Russ Barlow perfect, thank you! I just wanted an idea before I get much more committed to this project. I’m trying/planning using the mask for basic instruments and then run an iPad behind as well on RealityXP for a 650/750 touch combo.
Thanks for a quick guide for FS2020. I just got Air Manager and was working on customizing a panel to match my 1978 Super Viking. Any idea where I can download instruments or panels while the Sim Innovations website is down? I am completely stuck right now. I really appreciate your videos and can't wait to build a couple of Arduino driven components.
My air manAgee beta 4 kept on searching for fs 2020 and not connect. Can you help? I am a brand new to this. Must I have something else installed to make them connect. I am trying with their demo panel for now.
Look on the Sim Innovations wiki above where you downloaded the beta for the simulator software. Get the beta version. Just run the installer and it will put the bridge software on your FS2020
Depends on whether you sim on multiple computers. If you do maybe Steam is the best option. To my knowledge the actual game is identical on both. I purchased from MS but if it is like FSX on steam you vacant log in from any computer to play
@@rbarlow Ok... Very good point... I also researched that MS will send out the patches and updates well before Steam gets them.... Also any word on VR for MS 2020... I heard December 23.... Anyways ...Thank you for the quick response and for all you do for the sim community... Bob...
Russ, thank you for all the info. I got my system running! Do you know of any way or systems that allow you to pop out the Bezels as well as the screen? is there a software overlay that you can use as a G1000 of g750 bezel overlay? I didn't see it on air manager yet. thanks
On mine I use HDMI for the video and USB for the touch grid connection to the computer. You definitely need a power connection to the monitor because the USB bus just can’t handle running the monitor.
hi Ross i have similar set up i am having difficulties connecting my touch screen computer to MSFS main computer they are on same ip address any hints will be appreciated
Not sure what you mean. Are you networking two computers one running MSFS and the other Air Manager? If so did you install the plugin bridge software on the MSFS computer?
@@rbarlow sorry to bother you with my questions on the bottom right of my computer ( touch screen computer wit the air manager ) it says searching for flight simulator is it possible for you to send me all the steps i need to do to connect them if not too much trouble
You said Air Manager works with FS2020. But according the website, “Buying a Air Manager V3 license now will give you a free upgrade to Air Manager 4.0 once it has been released (late 2020/beginning 2021). Please note that the current V3 version does not support FS2020.” What did you do to get AM to work with FS2020?
The public beta version of 4.0 is a free download during testing and is fully functional but no paid panels. Obviously it is beta sot it may have bugs or incomplete features but you can use it now if you like. I used it in all my FS2020 videos of late. siminnovations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Look on the Sim Innovations Wiki. Under “Air Manager for desktop” there is a Beta link. The version 4.0 public beta can be downloaded there and is free until it is released. The username and password for the beta are in the instructions. It is beta so there may be bugs or incomplete features but it works with FS2020 siminnovations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
yes Air manager and MSFS are all Windows 10 compatible. Not sure what you mean. Air manager 4.0 which is only in free public beta is not released yet is that's what you heard as not ready yet?
I really appreciate your commitment and generosity Russ. How lucky we are to have such an experienced aviator who loves simming!
This may be 2yrs ago. But exactly what I was looking for now. Thank you!
Glad it helped!
Great Job Russ! I really apreciate your kindness to share this cool things about Flight simulation!
Really clear presentation. Have spend several days trying to find a way to have the instrument panel always readable, especially the speed at a glance at a sufficient level of zoom and this looks a very good option. Thanks so much for your putting this out there.
Thank you for your explanation. I keep an eye on it. With the support of FS2020 and a Knobster DIY, it should be a good investment in a small home cockpit.
Thank you Russ, this is perfect to get me started.
Got 2 kids 10yrs old, I will be learning to fly over the coming 24 months, and I'm part of EAA Chapter 406 in WA state where we started building an electric-powertrain equipped Sonex 2-seater motorglider (Xenos).
I wanted to dive into Sim because, oh well, because it's great, and Im going through some of your videos to guide my escalating involvement into all this. I might buy XP12 when it comes out, but for now I'll try FS2020 with the setup you propose here.
Anyway. Thanks for the inspiration and keep on trucking !
Air Manager is the best thing (along with the Nobster of course) to happen for Flight Simming!
Yeah and they keep making it better
First video. Been playing FS2020 for a few weeks and you've got my attention with this panel. Gonna follow your channel and see what else you roll out for this amazing game.
Thanks
In the process of building a SimSamurai home cockpit at the moment and Air Manager is the way I'd like to go. I have today purchased a Planer Systems PCT2235 22" touch screen from BHPhoto for just over US$200, before I saw your video. Recommended to me by a fellow simmer, so hopefully it's as good as this one. Waiting for the sales before purchasing my third LG 27" monitor, so hopefully it'll be up and running by December. Subbed to your channel and very much looking forward to future updates.
Sounds like you have a good plan....keep me posted on your progress
I'm using Spacedesk to use my phone for a Mobile(Handy) moving map touchscreen.
Works brilliantly. No lag.
Great idea....no added cost.
Thanks for the video Russ. Just about to get my cockpit build underway. Really helpful and nicely demonstrated.
Very explanatory! Thank you Russ. I have been learning a lot from your videos. Greatly appreciate it.
Hi Russ, Thank you for the panel! I just downloaded the Beta and trying Air Manager for the first time on an Ipad. Works great! I just wanted to note that the OAT gauge wasn't appearing on the runtime panel so I took a look at it in the lua code viewer and noticed it was missing a parens on line 82 of the 'else if' statement. Once I added the missing parens the gauge ran in the debugger and on the panel. I am looking into purchasing a larger touch screen monitor as I would also like to have radios accessible on the touch screen. Thanks again for all of your useful videos, I really enjoy them. Looking into purchasing the Knobster as well. Take care!
Hi! Where did you find a beta for iPad? Or do you just use the beta plugin with air manager 3.7 on ipad? Thanks :)
Hi Johannes sorry for any confusion. I am running the pc version and displaying it on an iPad.
Newbie enjoying your explanation and presentation. Thank you!
I didn't know about the monitor or the software but both look ideal for my needs. Thanks so much for posting this :)
Nice! Thank you for the information and looking for to setup of the air manager!
Iam looking forward to VR in 2020. Your videos are great. Thanks!
You're video inspires me a lot. I'm using free app spacedesk to drag and drop instrument panels to iPad air as second screen but did not know that was also possible with MSFS2020 cockpit panels. Cool. I've shared your video into two big Facebook groups so you can expect a lot of feedback ;-)
Thanks.
Great Video! Cannot wait till the raspberry version for fs2020 comes so I can use it with my homecockpit
Hi Russ. I set up a G1000 Panel for the C172 in MSFS following the instructions in the video by Ivansky. I am using AM 4 and I used your G1000 bezel. My main screen for cockpit view is a large display running at 2560X1440. I am trying to use my Winmaxit screen (1920 X 1080) for Air Manager. The Winmaxit gets the video signal from an HDMI cable connected to my video card. I also have a USB C to USB A cable plugged into the Winmaxit and my computer. The USB C end is plugged into the "Type C" port on the Winmaxit and the Type A end of the cable is connected to my computer. I went through the touchscreen calibration procedure in Windows and I calibrated the Winmaxit touch screen. My problem is that when I scroll on let's say the Baro knob, the cockpit view on my main monitor zooms. When I click on any of the buttons on the Air Manager overlay, nothing happens. When I touch the Back button on the G1000 bezel (lower right next to Alerts) I notice the right yoke turn blue on the main large screen (cockpit view). The touchscreen is configured properly for the Winmaxit, but my key presses are not translating properly over to the large screen. Do you have any idea what I can be doing wrong?
Thank you!
Andy
Two separate issues:
To eliminate the zooming look at your MSFS mouse control settings and remove the zoom in ans zoom out that is default set to use the scroll wheel.
The touch screen issue is that you may not have correctly calibrated the touch screen so it thinks your touch grid is over the other monitor and is transferring the touch inputs to that other screen.
@@rbarlow Thank you for the reply! I did not see a way in Windows to calibrate my Winmaxit screen to my large screen. Can you tell me how that is done?
@@rbarlow I figured out the problem. Windows Firewall was preventing AM4 from communicating with MSFS. I created exception for both programs and now all is well. Again, THANK YOU for your help and your excellent videos! Keep up the awesome work that you do for the Sim Community!
@@asrich327 should have first asked if things were working right using the mouse without touch. Did you solve the zooming scroll issue?
Yes. I took your advice and disabled the zoom feature from the mouse settings. Thank you again!
Great video! I can't wait until the sim allows commands to be sent to the GPS and FMC units. Then we'll really be cooking
Me too
I love your videos, but what are used to hold my monitor in place is a cookbook holder! Thanks
Simple is always better if it works! I should do more cooking. Thanks😀
Thanks for sharing more great work Russ. Looking fwd to getting this set up soon.
Somebody needs to develop a VR glove and knobster for VR. That would REALLY bring VR flying forward and more practical. Because the problem for VR now, how do you interact with the controls? The way this could work would be, you have a VR glove. The glov detects you grab/touch something. The knobster could be made to work with the knobs in VR. So if you had a glove, you can always interact with the panel, run the knobs with the knobster by just touching them, and easily interact with radios, then grab your physical controls no problem. It sure would make paying the difference for VR worth it, and turn the sim to a training aid.
Nice job on getting this going for MSFS 2020
Thanks!
This is the only way to make home simulators work for pilots that already hold their IFR ratings etc. All the VR stuff is useless . The little knob you use and the touch screen that allows for keeping displays as if in a real plane. I´m very excited about this path into useful home simulation .
Thanks for that. I was thinking of a touchscreen for Sim use and on researching, found your video. The touchscreen would be epic with the GTN 750 (FSX for the moment) but the options with knobster are intriguing. I am thinking about making a cheap panel with one screen and also a good android tablet as screen 2 (this works wonderfully with the GTN via Spacedesk) and for FS2020, the TBM or CubX could be a good mix. Certainly, the options for G1000 with knobster are going to have me thinking here. Again, thanks for the video. I enjoyed it immensely.
In some of my earlier videos I have incorporated a G750 into the Air Manager panel layout.see this video. th-cam.com/video/r4ogAhcjKy8/w-d-xo.html
Hello, Russ. I truly love your instructional videos and are the "go to" when I'm wanting to know something about flight simming and Air Manager.
In trying to make my own home cockpit I am needing to know if the 15.6" screen will show Air Manager instruments true to their size (in regards to actual instrumentation gauges) or if a larger screen would be needed.
Thank you for all that you do.
the view area on a 15.6" monitor is 13.6" wide and 7.6" high. Standard sized instruments are about 3.5" diameter including bezel so at full size( use 3.25" as close enough, keep the bezels small) you can place 2 rows X 4 columns. That's a six pack( with HSI for VOR 1) plus a second VOR and Tach. This calculator will help you figure screen sizes screen-size.info/ , Remember the as the screen gets bigger an HD monitor is still 1920 X1080 pixels even though larger on a larger monitor and you can fit more life-sized instruments on it, they may not be as sharp as the pixels get bigger.
Neat. What would be perfect is if you could get 2 of your touch monitors side by side and then split them horizontally 1/3, 2/3. And then be able to put the dash on the upper 1/3 and all the instruments on the lower 2/3's. It would also be better to have the bar on the window panels disappear but that might be a windows/Asobo thing. The reason I was thinking of this split is so your main monitor can be outside view only.
Not sure I follow you. What do you mean Dash? Instruments? The bar on the windows panels?It may just be me but I don’t quite understand the big picture on what you’re writing maybe you could try again please. Thanks
@@rbarlow The part above the 6 pack and below the window. The idea is use the big monitor for looking outside and then split up 2 monitors below for instruments and the dash.
Have you seen my video from a while ago with X-Plane...is this similar to what you mean?
th-cam.com/video/s06Z-K34er8/w-d-xo.html
Love your videos! Knobster rules. I bought 2! Keep it up.
Great video. Thank you for presenting it. I am a bit new to this and was wondering if this works with X plane Huey UH1 as well.
We really need some G2000 panels for MSFS. I just purchased my knobster, but I guess I'm going to have to learn to code to use it with the TBM/Business jets I like to fly 😔😔😔
MS needs to finish the SDK. Many sim connect functions are not working yet limiting what can be done
@@rbarlow ahh I see. Thanks for the info, and all the useful information you provide for everyone!
Thanks Russ love your vlogs. Can you kindly share a link to where I can buy a knobster from. Cheers m8 🙂👍
siminnovations.com/hardware
Russ, Thanks for parenting Knobster into existence. Why don't you do the same with the aluminum panel? There must be a lot of folks wanting to set up your rig as shown in the videos but who have no access to the tools required to cut, bend, and drill that panel. I'll have to find a machine shop willing to do a little one-off job like that, something I'd rather not do during the pandemic. However, you could persuade Sim Innovations to get them made in batches of 100 (just for example) and sell them at a profit. Call it the "Barlow Knobster Bracket."
Probably better if I keep my name out of it. Actually, I was thinking that Stay Level Avionix might be a good partner to build that. They do great work.
Russ Barlow
True. They are fabricators by trade. Have you approached them about it? If not, there's no time like the present! Meanwhile, I'm happy to learn that you've considered getting the panels manufactured for sale. There's a great need, and with the introduction of MSFS, a rapidly growing market.
To be honest, honeycomb aeronautical has announced that they have a somewhat similar product on the roadmap. But I think it comes after the rudder pedals they have planned after the throttle quadrant is yet to be released. I have spoken with him about another project and he has built a couple dual monitor cockpits using Knobster, so I’ll give him a call tomorrow and see what he thinks. Thanks for giving me a nudge. I’m retired and trying to make any money off of this it’s just not worth it because I really value the freedom to go and do what I want and simulation.
Russ Barlow
That's interesting. If you look at the Bravo, it appears that they've made it the same height as the Alpha so that a panel can be made to span both adjacent units. Honeycomb would be a natural partner for this project, although I sense that they wouldn't be as agile as Stay Level in producing prototypes.
Thank's for all the hard work Russ I always enjoy your videos. I love the Knopster and use it in X-plane. Do you have a link for the bridge software to use it Flight Simulator? Thank's again.
Check the Sim Innovations wiki page. There is a beta app and beta plugin as well as the username and password.for the BETA. The beta will not overwrite your current 3.7 version or any data. It is separate. Knobster will work as it interfaces with Air Manager so it needs no new software
I appreciate your contributions to the community Russ. You're definitely a trailblazer!! One question, did your touchscreen come with the screw holes on the back? I just got a couple of touchscreens from Walmart but they did not come with the screw holes on the back so I am not sure how to mount them.
Thank you for your videos. I have subscribed to see what you show us in the future.
Thanks for the sub!
Hey group not finding the sim innovation bridge to get air manager to work with FS2020. 15.6 monitor great idea and working well
It is just the beta plugin installer on the wiki page( near top). The installer will look for each sim installed on your computer and automatically I stall the plugin(or bridge for FD2020
@@rbarlow Thanks so much. Just setup my new prechen monitor, both the Beta and 3.3 air manager. My knobster will be hear on monday from Xforce. your video are great help
Great Video!! Thanks so much for sharing. Do you have a video and/or more details on how the touch screen hardware is connected? I like to understand how to configure 2 touch screens with X Plane 11 - G1000 PFD on one and the MFD on the other. Thanks!
The monitors each need to be connected to the computer running the simulator so you can place the popped out displays on the monitors.They also need a usb connection for the touch screen signal they also need a power connection. If you have more than two scenery displays too you may run out of graphics ports. Performance with a lot of monitors could be an issue too. This video my answer some questions you have
th-cam.com/video/ZOdI__BMat4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Russ,
First of all congratullation for the good work you are doing.
I build a sim panel with two monitors Wimaxit model M1560CT2 to work with a FS2020 and I'm also plan to incorporate a Knobster. Althought the monitors are, so they say, touch screen type, I only manage to make it work on one of them if it's choosen as a main monitor. If the main monitor is the wall one, the touch function is there but the buttons and switches on the panel are not sensitive to the touch.
My question is, are there any setting or adjustment to be done on the computer graphics to allow the touch function to be fully active and the wall monitor to be the main monitor.
Thanks in advance for your help...
Victor it sounds like you haven't calibrated your monitor's touch system. If windows senses a touch monitor it assumes the touch grid is located aligned with the upper left corner of the main monitor. If there is more than one touch monitor you need to calibrate the touch system. Go to settings and search for "Calibrate" and you will see a choice "Calibrate the screen for pen or touch input" . Select that and follow the directions. It will cycle through each monitor ( the screen will turn white with text directions). It will tell you to touch each monitor if it is touch or press ENTER if not to continue through the monitors. After you are done it will know how to correlate touches with the correct monitor. The following video will demo the process starting a timestamp 0 :33
@@rbarlow did that and they are both working. Just waiting for the knobster to arrive to install it and fine tune the set up...Thanks very much Russ for the support. Kind Regards, Vitor
@@vitorsilveira3045 that is one of my most common questions. Have fun simming!
As always Russ, great job.. Been waiting for a version for 2020... Could you explain the Beta and plug in set up?
You can download the beta 4.0 from the wiki and install it you also need the beta plug-in from the wiki. It will install a separate application and will not touch your current 3.7 edition or any of its files.
If you read through the wiki it will provide you with the username and password you need to use for the beta edition. It will expire before the Release version of 4.0 is issued.
Yeah I found it.... I was using 3 plugin...
@@rbarlow hi Russ.I installed version 4.0, (I have installed in my Pc xplane with versión 3.7...)but According with the note it has, I have to actívate the product.when I put my user and password, it does not work.The question is I need to pay for a New subscription?thanks in advance!
Russ i have seen the seen the one mounting bracket that u had made with the holes for the knobster , and i do like the set up very well as well, two things one : i all ready have a 22" touch screen and with out the knobster could one use this mount bracket to put the 22" screen on ? and the second Q. is where and how does one get the bridge for 2020. i hope that it is easy to set up ? thanks for your input on this matter D.
In order to use Air Manager with MSFS you need to download the beta version of the program from the same innovations wiki. You also need the new plug-in which I called the bridge application which will be installed automatically when you run the plug-in installer. You will need to use the username/password given in the instructions to activate the beta version of Air Manager 4.0 The beta should continue to work until the version 4.0 is officially released. Then I think it is a 50% price discount to upgrade.
I am afraid a 22 inch monitor would not fit onto the bracket that is being sold by several vendors but you could easily make your own following the instructions that I included in my first video when I was building a do it yourself version. It’s a simple design made of a sheet of aluminum that has been drilled in mounted onto the honeycomb yoke. You might look for a mounting bracket that has the ability to adjust up and down so that you could set the top of the monitor to match the glareshield of different aircraft. That is one drawback with it mounted onto the yoke is that it cannot be adjusted in on some airplanes the instrument panel is partially visible above the top of the monitor.
Hi Russ. I use air manager but lm wondering why there is not and option to use head tracking without the main screen panel, lm talking about the simulators.You have the separate monitor with air manager but having the main display with the cockpit is a litle redundant. I understand that is the way to have a 3D capabilities. I found one unfinish plane in xplane10 list that doesn't have a cockpit but surprisingly the panoramic view works with head tracking. I just want to bring the option in order to avoid using three monitors for the center and lateral panoramic views.
Can you please in detail describe the physical connections to/from the touch panel. I can understand a HDMI display on the touch panel from the computer graphics card, but I didn't see how the HDMI signal support touch controls.
Russ, thanks so much ! Again fantastic content ! Many greetings from Germany !
Vielen Dank!
Russ, I purchased the 2 of the touchscreen 15" monitors. I have them all hooked up and can undock the screens down to the monitors. I have the computer setup for touchscreen, but MSFS2020 doesn't allow me to touch the screen and change anything. Do I have to have AirManager to do this? I have looked at AirManager and can see your G1000 panel overlay. I guess I'm confused. I'm really wanting to to the G1000 setup with PFD and MFD. I think I have watched all your videos and got the idea for my panel build with dual touchscreen from you.
Thanks Russ, You do a wonderful job.
WOW 2D PANELS FOR FLIGHTSIM COCKPITS THANK YOU
Have you tried Zibo 737-800 on x-plane yet? It's about all I fly here these day, mainly wellington to Auckland and Queenstown is a nice tricky airport to fly in to.
Yes and it is quite good. Still a few systems that lack realism but continually getting better and better
So how do I connect my air manager to new flight simulator will you be doing a video on how to do that
There are lots of tutorials already online at Sim Innovations website and TH-cam. Go to the wiki and it explains things
siminnovations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Russ any news on Air Manager working with your dual touchscreen design and FS2020? pretty sad not to use this great setup with the new sim.
Yes it could work but two things are holding me back. First FS2020 doesn’t support multi monitors except with Nvidia surround which stretches the image badly on the outer edges and looks terrible after XP multi views. Second, it doesn’t support key events yet so many Air Manager instruments won’t work completely. When either of these are fixed I will install FS2020 on this simulator
Hi Russ. Is it possible to use the Air Manager with the knobster on a Garmin unit on a second LAN computer to control the FMS knob?
It will work but unless you have XP on the same computer you will have no pop out screen to place behind the bezel. The buttons and knobs will still work on a networked computer though...without a display screen.
@@rbarlow also ms fs2020?
@@rbarlow and for me just the knobster for fms is enough i, fly vr
Hi Russ. great video! Great products!
You mentioned in a former video an aluminium plate. Do you have a link? Thanks
Sorry. I found it in this video. :-)
I'm holding out till i see a good 3 panel nVidia surround and fourth panel for instruments. (as i have now in FSX 3x 720p tv's plus one 24"monitor).
Air manager seems a way to go. Can the we get rid of the 3D cockpit in external views?
Does 2020 allow panels to pop out or is that Air manager process?
I want three unique views to each of the three visual monitors that allow setting offset angles and field of view on each. The surround creates a virtual single wide monitor on the three and the stretching of the image toward the outside edges is a dealbreaker for me. So far MSFS doesn’t allow a scenery only view. It does allow popping out the NAV display screens but so far the Asobo SDK hasn’t added all the Events that are needed to control them from an Air Manager bezel. Hopefully soon.
@@rbarlow Someone has posted video of how to move the eye point forward of the windshield.th-cam.com/video/DRS-Qmu5qtg/w-d-xo.html
Yes the stretching is annoying, just zoom out as far as possible, i then just pretend it's canopy window distortion.
what is the brand and size of the monitor? do u hav model number? where did you purchase the scrolling knob on the side of monitor? is it easy to install to the msfs2020 sim?
Hi Russ, I went looking for the monitor with VESA mounts at Amazon but it was out of stock last week so I picked up one of these intead:
Planar Helium PCT2235 Touch Screen 22"
It's heavier than the model you have, coming in at around 8 lbs. Do you think the Honeycomb will have any issues with this extra weight? I'd like to take a similar approach with the aluminum and knobster. This is my 4th knobster, I bought two of the originals and now two of the Sim Innovation models with usb C. Love them!
As long as the frame can hold the weight and the center of gravity is close to the being over the mounting holes it is probably okay. I found a new 15.6” Wimaxit with VESA and it is all flat edge to edge glass front touchscreen. At Amazon
@@rbarlow Thanks Russ. I have a Eyoyo 15.6 inch Touchscreen Monitor coming on Sunday. It's another one with vesa mounts that looks similar to what you have in the video. The Planar monitor was just too big for this application imo.
Mr, Barlow, I am working on my Flight Sim using MSFS 2020 plus the updates. A couple of question, first how do you get the Air Manager instrument panel to the monitor (Wimaxit 15.6 touch) Have made a bracket to hold this monitor on top of my Cessna yoke along with a knobster. My main monitor is a 32 in Dell. Right now working on getting Real Sim Garmin GNS 530 up and running correctly.
In Air Manager panel Settings you can select the monitor you want the panel displayed on
Are there any flight instruments that would utilize three encoder knobs dials verses the two that are currently available via the Knobster. Do you see a need or "utility" for three encoders within a single "Knobster II" product moving forward for example?
Alt V7 since the concept is to simulate the selected knob from the panel I can o lay think of one triple knob in my experience. I flew a B737-200 that had an ADF with triple knobs for the frequency in kHz. One was the lowest ones digit. The second the tens digit. And the third went from 17 to 10 for the hundreds digit. I think a triple encoder would be hard to find too.
@@rbarlow Thanks Russ. Good to know, thanks for the extra context. Gratefully.
Excellent video and explanation. I couldn't find the Amazon links to the panel and support panel. Can you repost them?
thx
My ViewSonic TD2410 touchscreen will not operate as touch screen. I have updated windows 10, reinstalled touch screen driver, monitor driver, adjusted the connections, updated video card driver. I just can't get the touch feature to work. Can you think of something else to do to get it to work?
It works good as a regular monitor. I have the HDI connected and the USB connected between the monitor and the computer box. Frustrated!
I've had ProSim737 for years, and I decided to update my processor and they want me to rebuy it, I couldn't do it out of principle, I'm actually getting more excited about getting a simpler setup that just works and doesn't require me flipping a million switches as ProSim requires. Can you set this in the startup folder so it just pops up , and networking too is no problem?
Thank for the video. Excellent. I have just set up a three monitor system. The monitors are connected to the three outputs of my GPU. Is there a best way to get a four output for this monitor? Thanks
Two options
Use the internal graphics on the motherboard if available…need to enable in the bios. Or. Use a usb docking station like a Pluggable which work great
The Sim Innovations website seems to be down... your video must have created too much traffic for them! :D
They posted about it on facebook.
facebook.com/siminnovations/photos/a.891878140889365/3351132004963954
l am just starting flight sim and i think your great
Check out Touch Portal with the msfs2020 plugin.
I looked at it and wondered is there a plugin to use with fs2020
@@rbarlow Yes it has, check out discord.gg/MgxQb8r
hi Ross hope you ok , i have installed air manager 4 and i bought the knobster ,my problem is when i touch the screen on any instrument to turn the dial it doesn't lit up i have calibrated my screen to input touch am i missing any other step
What are your thoughts on Sim Connect?
Will air manger work on the avro Vulcan For cockpit gauges?
Hello Russ, I am spending the day consuming many of your setup videos. Just got done watching the one showing how you have the 2 computers setup, one with Air Manager and XP the other more powerful with the 3 monitors. Now I have a question on how this MSFS is set up as you are only running 2 monitors. Are you still using the 2 computers? And when pooping out the panels from MSFS, are you able to make setting changes to the MFD or PFD? Knobster only works with Air Manager correct? Thanks
I only had one monitor for scenery in MSFS so all three were on a single computer. It isn’t possible to network computers in MSFS yet. Knobster only works with Air Manager and I would create a overlay bezel for the popped out displays but the SDK doesn’t support Key Events yet so it really can’t be done yet. I am afraid despite the beautiful scenery in MSFS that the same just isn’t ready for home cockpit use yet. It may be a while as I think their main focus is getting the VR stuff going as soon as possible. Also, for me until there is support for three monitors with geometrically correct views it’s just not quite worth the trouble.
@@rbarlow Thank you, your reply is greatly appreciated. I am going to spend the time and expense getting Xplane to where I need it. Heck, after 2 touch screen monitors, a knobster, mounting hardware and required software, I figure its about the same as 4-5 hours 172 rental time. At this point I need proficiency to finish my CFII, so its a no brainer. One last question, I am assuming 2 copies of Xplane and 1 copy of Air Manager are needed for the software? Thanks again.
Lorby Axes and Ohs can do the same thing as air manager. thats what i use for my Stream Deck.
Do I Have To Install A Separate Knobster On Each Monitor , I f I Have More Than One Monitor ?
One Knobster will work with all attached monitors with air manager panels that have Knobster enabled in the panel settings
Thanks you for this video, i wonder if I can asing any other knob to air manager (I have som in my hardware that are not in use)..
Really the price for knobster is way to hi for home simer..
It may be way too high but they can’t keep them in stock so compared to some of the high cost items required for swimming in a home cockpit it it’s a real bargain. There is a section on the sim innovations wiki that explains how you can create your own DIY Knobster. Just need a dual encoder with push button and a Arduino nano. The software and everything else is there.We included for home simmers who wanted to save and not spend money for the plug and play model that is sold.
@@rbarlow okej i understand but frankly there's not to much in stock now days..and I know that with this solution i can save a lot of money in som others simhardwere but is a compromise solution to .my cuestion is if there is any way to asing my knobs I could use 2 off these and they have pusch to
I would like to purchase the Knobster but, I can not get Air Manager BETA for FS2020 to recognize the available G1000 instruments for my Cessna (G1000). No problem getting any C172 instrument to work.
What panel are you using for the G1000....which Air Manager bezel? It may not have been adapted for FS2020 yet.This beta is fairly new so much of that has not been done yet.
Hi Russ, I had some trouble using the touch screen features. I put together a similar display on a touchscreen, but I had to use joystick buttons to set landing gears / flaps. Any suggestions?
Did you turn on touch control in the Air Manager settings? If so does the touch screen work in windows without Air Manager ?
Nice video! I am really tired of panning around to see my gauges. I've been looking for a way to get panels off the main screens and this looks like the perfect solution. I already have the some aluminum so all I need is the monitor and metal brake. I also have a USB switch box I use for racing which has several rotary switches and buttons which shows up under game controllers. Am I correct in assuming I could use two rotaries and a single button on that box to mimic the Knobster? Thanks!
Actually the Knobster uses a proprietary microprocessor but there is a DIY version based on a Arduino Nano that you can build. The software and encoder arrangement is on the sim innovations wiki under Knobster. Cheap to build if you have basic soldering skills and a nano and dual push button encoder. You could build for less than $40 not including a case if you buy parts.
@@rbarlow Thanks, Russ. I'll look into that. I have most of the parts I need and I'm familiar with Arduino. :-)
You know what? It's only money so I just ordered the Knobster. I like plug-and-play!
Do you have a link to the Knobster that you get a little money for a purchase. I want to buy one and make sure you get you share.
I appreciate that but U get a $5 royalty on each Knobster manufactured so you can buy it fro Sim Innovations or XForcePC and I get a share. Thanks.
@@rbarlow Well I purchased Air Manager and a Knobster today........I blame you. Oh yeah and a 15" touch screen the other day.
Excellent! If ya don't mind, I'd also like to recommend "Matric", an android app, that will allow touch/remote control. For the price, works great and many have android tablets already.
Kenneth Hicks Thanks I’ll check it out.
Cool vid, great idea Russ! Please, would you answer for me two short questions?
1. Would be possible switching on-the-fly among more layouts/profiles of Air manager on a single LCD - eg. between G1000 PFD and MFD?
2. Would be possible to use Air Manager now or in the future to control touch display of G3000 (e.g. for TBM 930 or King Air)?
Thnaks very much in advance for the answers.
You can create what you describe with Air Manager panels but if you overlay the popped out displays from the sim I don’t know how you could swap them as well from PFD to MFD
Good work Russ. So is SimInovations ever going to add some more full panels for purchase? I have not seen much development for purchased panels on the site other than one from you.
I agree. I may find time to do some more. What airplane do you suggest?
The one I would like to see published for a start is the Zibo Cockpit panel you had demonstrated on here a while back. I think I spend more time in the Airliners than I do with any other Aircraft. Having flown only general aviation aircraft in real life I find it rather boring and am really pushing my self to learn more about the larger more complicated aircraft but constantly having to use the mouse and keyboard to switch views and such to operate the panels really takes away form the realism , for me any way. I have a huge amount of equipment here and would like to use it to the best of my abilities and incorporate the 3 Knobsters I have.
Thank you for your time.
The same for me, waiting every day for the Zibo panels... ;)
Any idea how to connect a Logitech switch panel? Or should junk it?
there's an updated driver fod Saitek panels - google it - they work fairly well
Grace Summit Church Saitek rediirects to Logitech and all their driver does on windows 10 is act as a test program. FS2020 doesn’t see it. Logitech has been telling me for months they are “working” on it...
Have you considered SPAD.neXt?
@@john-or9cf i am using spad.next for fs2020 and its working great
Jannis H. Not sure what that is - the link fails
Im using tablets for touch screen input and its really spotty and frustrating ... Is this different ? do you have any comments on this ?
Im using Xplane 11 and MSFS 2020. I have ordered the Honey comb setup to get a hardware device for all GPS and NAV inputs.
Nice vid tutorial, how much does it cost the app Air Manager?
Air Manager V3 for Desktop
Product Code: APPL__AIR_MANAGER_3_HOME_USE_STANDARD__DESKTOP
Availability: In Stock
65.00€
See
www.siminnovations.com/buy/product/36-air-manager-v3
any idea when airmanager 4.0 will be avialable? if i got a separate touch screen and knobster, will it be ok once AM4.0 is released?
It works now with Air Manager 4.0 beta available free on the wiki until it is released hopefully pretty soon. Some of the pay panels are not working with FS2020 completely yet because of incomplete features in the SDK for MSFS. Just download from the wiki page and you need the beta plug in too. Good news is that it is separate from the current version so you can use both. Get the beta username/password from the wiki to activate the beta.
@@rbarlow Thank you. I am a newbie, and currently have 4 monitors, none of which are touch screen. if i get the small 15.6 inch one, can i hook it up w USB C, and still have it work...ie i would then have 5 monitors. And w/ USB C only would it support touch fundtion? thanks much.
Separate question: is there any value to knobster on a NON touch screen monitor using air manager 4.0 beta. I am mostly flying the cessna 152, and not sure really what monitor changes you would need knobster for? I dont have g1000.
Hi Russ,
Great video. I learned a lot from it. Any latest news in this area?
thank you!
--Jay.
A bit confused, does FS2020 support Multi-Monitors, & did you have the chance to experiment FS2020 with he Arduino, Raspberry PI & or a second Computer ????
Nope. No multi view monitors yet. Only surround which stretches and distorts the outer edges of the side monitors. Air Manager interfaces with The sim over your LAN so it can be in another computer from the sim . Raspi too. Arduino Interfaces with Air Manager or Air Player directly via USB so it will work as long as the sim is compatible.... need Air Manager 4.0 beta. FS2020 Not supported und AM 3.7 .
@@rbarlow tnx Russ ... so you can get the Client NOD (PC, Arduino, or Res PI) to AM and have the instrument displayed on the client Display, did I get it right ?
I have the latest Air manager but for some reason it won't recognize my FS2020. Got any suggestions?
Did you install the software plug-in (actually called bridge) for the new version into MSFS 2020?
Hi Russ, do you intend to adapt your G1000 Overlay to the new FS2020? Would be really great and would be a very good reason to decide for Air Manager
Cheers, Juergen
Trying to do it but the access to the correct underlying variables is not all available with FS2020 yet
ok thanks, so I think we can only wait for the MSFS Team to do some further steps in improving the SDK to provide some more features to allow for cockpit building.
Russ, I am building a simulator and would like to use either three screens (preferably) or a large curved monitor. Do you know if MS plans to add the multiple monitor capability? Thanks
They say it is on their to do list. I think VR will come first though.
How many assignments can you actually have on one single 2560mega? Would I need 15 mega boards to setup a 172 panel with every switch, dial, and button for max realism? Non touch on Air Manager with standard monitor screen behind a mask, 3D printed bezels and such.. Thx!
The 2560 has 54 digital input/output pins. A simple two position switch or momentary closed push button needs one pin. Each dial needs two pins, one for each direction of rotation. So the dual knob encoder with push button on the G530 would use 5 pins. You can do the math but I would guess(only a guess) 2 megas would do it.
Russ Barlow perfect, thank you!
I just wanted an idea before I get much more committed to this project. I’m trying/planning using the mask for basic instruments and then run an iPad behind as well on RealityXP for a 650/750 touch combo.
@@rbarlow what is the best “noob” way to interface my hardware/arduino to use in xplane 11? TIA.
Would a Chromebook work for this?
Which tablet are you using? iPad, Samsung?
Thanks for a quick guide for FS2020. I just got Air Manager and was working on customizing a panel to match my 1978 Super Viking. Any idea where I can download instruments or panels while the Sim Innovations website is down? I am completely stuck right now. I really appreciate your videos and can't wait to build a couple of Arduino driven components.
My air manAgee beta 4 kept on searching for fs 2020 and not connect. Can you help? I am a brand new to this. Must I have something else installed to make them connect. I am trying with their demo panel for now.
Look on the Sim Innovations wiki above where you downloaded the beta for the simulator software. Get the beta version. Just run the installer and it will put the bridge software on your FS2020
Hi Russ... Where is the best option to purchase MS 2020... At the Microsoft store or on Steam... Thanks....
Depends on whether you sim on multiple computers. If you do maybe Steam is the best option. To my knowledge the actual game is identical on both. I purchased from MS but if it is like FSX on steam you vacant log in from any computer to play
@@rbarlow Ok... Very good point... I also researched that MS will send out the patches and updates well before Steam gets them.... Also any word on VR for MS 2020... I heard December 23.... Anyways ...Thank you for the quick response and for all you do for the sim community... Bob...
@@VETTE-wj8qq MSFS VR Dec22!
@@rbarlow Thats good news... Thanks Russ...
Russ, thank you for all the info. I got my system running!
Do you know of any way or systems that allow you to pop out the Bezels as well as the screen? is there a software overlay that you can use as a G1000 of g750 bezel overlay? I didn't see it on air manager yet.
thanks
did you find that the USB type C video input supports touchscreen, and the others do not?
On mine I use HDMI for the video and USB for the touch grid connection to the computer. You definitely need a power connection to the monitor because the USB bus just can’t handle running the monitor.
Hi Russ. Is it possible to send different air manager panels to two different monitors?
Yes no problem . You can run 9(I think but usually the limitation is the number of monitors you can run.
hi Ross i have similar set up i am having difficulties connecting my touch screen computer to MSFS main computer they are on same ip address any hints will be appreciated
Not sure what you mean. Are you networking two computers one running MSFS and the other Air Manager? If so did you install the plugin bridge software on the MSFS computer?
@@rbarlow ok Ross i did is their another step i should do because still the gauges are not responding
yes you right i have 2 computers 1 for MSFS the other for Air manager
@@rbarlow sorry to bother you with my questions on the bottom right of my computer ( touch screen computer wit the air manager ) it says searching for flight simulator is it possible for you to send me all the steps i need to do to connect them if not too much trouble
You said Air Manager works with FS2020. But according the website, “Buying a Air Manager V3 license now will give you a free upgrade to Air Manager 4.0 once it has been released (late 2020/beginning 2021). Please note that the current V3 version does not support FS2020.” What did you do to get AM to work with FS2020?
The public beta version of 4.0 is a free download during testing and is fully functional but no paid panels. Obviously it is beta sot it may have bugs or incomplete features but you can use it now if you like. I used it in all my FS2020 videos of late.
siminnovations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
@@rbarlow thanks. I did not see the Beta on the Web site. I will take another look for it.
@@rbarlow okay, I give up. Where can I download the beta?
Look on the Sim Innovations Wiki. Under “Air Manager for desktop” there is a Beta link. The version 4.0 public beta can be downloaded there and is free until it is released. The username and password for the beta are in the instructions. It is beta so there may be bugs or incomplete features but it works with FS2020
siminnovations.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
@@rbarlow Thank you Russ! Excellent video. I appreciate your help.
There's no WIndows 10 version yet?
yes Air manager and MSFS are all Windows 10 compatible. Not sure what you mean. Air manager 4.0 which is only in free public beta is not released yet is that's what you heard as not ready yet?