Great vid, I am a retired Army Pilot and still like to keep my head in the cockpit even if it is virtual. I had been vacillating over FCU hardware and then I stumbled on Air Manager and after seeing your vid I know what I need to do. Like you I dont want to pigeon hole myself to one type of aircraft.
This is a great presentation indeed! I'm in the process of reviewing the various flightsim gadgets in the market and since I'm on a tight budget I am mostly keen to go for a software that will allow me to operate various aircraft formats using the same hardware. "Your" low-cost flatpanel touch monitors mated with the "Air Manager " software are the answer to this! ...Oh yes I'm so much like you because I really don't like sticking around with one aircraft type (read C172) but I like hopping between various types (my favourite being C152, PA28R, C206, Gippsland GA-8, PA34 Seneca 2, BE55, C310R, PA31, C402C, C404 Titan, Tecnam P2012, C208 Caravan, Pilatus PC12, DHC6 Twin-Otter, BE200 Super King Air, BE1900C, BAe Jetstream 41, DHC-8, Fokker 50, ATR 42/72, CRJ200, B737, B757/767, A310, MD11, B777, B787 'Dreamliner', B747, etc. I presume this sim would be able to cover most if not all of these aircraft types.
I bought a 15.6" touchscreen from Amazon and it is great Russ! I'm just getting started in flight sim with x-plane 11 and appreciate all the great videos that you have done!
This is brilliant. These with the knobs term and I’ve got exactly what I’ve been looking for!! Love your videos. I used a Leo Bodnar USB interface to build a sim racing dashboard. I also use the switches on it to bind controls for my flying sim - calling up maps, gear up down etc etc. Super easy plug and play to use and helps eliminate keyboard strokes which I hate.
I bought the Prechen 15.6 Touch Screen on Amazon for $229.99. Also bought Air Manager and found I was not able to get the touchscreen feature to work. Mouse input worked but it was a no-go on the touchscreen. I then noticed that you had 3 connections on the Prechen in your video. I only had the HDMI and powered USB hooked up. There's an input for a DC 12 volt power adapter but this did not come with that adapter nor was it listed on what was included on Amazon. I then took note in the Operating Instructions of this caveat "If you want to use the touch function, you need to connect both the USB cable and the DC Power adapter". That was contrary to what was in the description which makes no mention of the necessity of connecting the DC 12v power adapter if you want the touchscreen to work properly. I'm in the process of ordering a DC 12v power adapter now. They are relatively inexpensive. Curious if Russ or others who ordered this particular monitor did not receive a DC 12v power adapter and is it required to get the touchscreen function to work as stated in the enclosed instructions.
Was finally able to get this touchscreen to work. My unfamiliarity with touchscreen monitors and the terrible English translations in the manual that came with the monitor and the video link the manufacturer sent to me, contributed to the problems I was having. My setup is a home built system with an i7-9700 clocked at 5.0GHz, DDR4 32Gb @ 3200MHz, GeForce GTX 1080 Ti with 11Gb memory, GeForce GT730, and a 39inch 4k Seiku monitor. Initially I tried to use the onboard graphics built into my rig to run the monitor without a lot of success. I next added the GT730 card to run the monitor. That was met with some initial success except the touch screen function on this monitor Instead of showing up on this monitor was showing up on my main 4k monitor. I eventually discovered that settings for touchscreen in Windows10 can be found under Ease of Access, Vision, Cursor & Pointer, Change Touch Feedback. I was able to shut down the effect of touching this monitor being broadcast to my larger non-touch monitor. Monitor is working great with just two connection, the USB to a powered USB hub and the HMDI to my GT730 graphics card. I've backordered a Knobster which should be coming soon.
@@vpwebsvc wow, this is what i would like to do. sounds pretty rough there for a while but you're getting it figured out. toward the end you say you are only using the usb connection (powered hub) and the HDMI to your main gaming PC (in other words, you are not using a laptop to drive this monitor) via a GT730 graphics card.... where did you plug in the GT730 in your gaming PC? I have a RTX 2080Ti and it's taking up my only 16x PCI-E slot... so is it running in a 4x PCI-E slot? also, since you had the powered USB hub, has this eliminated the need for the 12V power brick?
Turns out getting the touchscreen to work with the Prechen monitor was a Windows 10 touchscreen set up process that needed to be followed. I'm currently running a 4k 39" monitor on a GTX 1080 Ti card in a PCIe x 16 slot and the Prechen monitor on a GT 730 card in a PCIe x1 slot. The 39" monitor is my #1 monitor and the Prechen #2. These are connected to a very high-end desktop computer. The Windows 10 setup for touchscreen setup will show both monitors and you indicate which ones are touchscreen. In my case #1 is not and #2 is touchscreen. Once that was done everything was OK. There's no need to add a DC 12volt power adapter to the Prechen unless you don't have enough power coming from the USB port the monitor is connected to. I have a large powered hub so that wasn't necessary in my case. My current plan is to get another Prechen 15.6 monitor, add a 2nd less powerful computer, and have the folks at Stay Level build me an avionics panel. That panel will accommodate the 2 Prechen monitors, a Knobster, a Yoko yoke, a Virtual Fly throttle, a Saitek switch panel and Saitek multi-panel. The 2nd computer will run these and the high end computer the 4k monitor for the main outside visuals.
@@vpwebsvc wow, a lot to digest, i'm saving this as a bookmark !!!! i will check to see if i have a slot avail. been using them to add more USB's. I think my computer is overloaded by USB's. When i plug the Honeycomb in before booting, i lock up before windows fully loads..causes tons of problems. it's a previous problem ive had and had to work all the USB devices. I have a USB powered hub on the way but will probably need even more powered hubs..not sure how many a gaming PC can handle (total # of USB devices), but anyway, this is great info...between you and OP, I'm on information overload. Can't wait to pursue this further...thanks so much!!!!
@@vpwebsvc are you aware of any other 15.6 that is better than the Prechen for a similar or lower cost now that you've had this setup a while? I ask that because , the OP (Russ) mentioned that the Prechen is rated at 250 CD per meter squared (Candles per meter squared) and is not well suited for day-light. If you think the Prechen is great so far, then i might just do that one. But if you have any info on another one, I will pull the trigger on that right away as I already have the Air Manager and Air Player purchased as of an hour ago. They did not have the Knobster in stock so it wouldn't let me back-order it even. Anyway, any help on this would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks for the quick reply and the copious information.
All your videos are just so awesome, professional and helpful. I got 3 of these Pretchen units but I have yet to be able to get the touch function to work. Got the display going but touch will not work. Connections made are as follows Computer HDMI out to display HDMI in, Computer USB A to Display USB C, power transformer to USB C on Display. Am I missing something? Should I be connecting the USB A on the display to the USB A on the computer to enable touchscreen? Any help would be a godsend.
Hello! and Thanks for the explication but what version of Xplane do you have? I try the same in other panel (Samsung Tab) and I can only move the selector Knobs in one location, down and up, never around, and is impossible to select and change the altimeter and the heading. The buttons DME, PFD, etc works good.
Hello Russ thanks for sharing all this good info. with us I have a WIMAXIT 15.6 that you used in one of your previous vids. Im using win.10 with all the updates and XP 12.3 for the sim when hooked up per inst. the touch screen works but it works on my main monitor and not on the Wimaxit not sure what I'm doing wrong I'm out of ideas some help please thanks much.
Hi, would a 4k monitor be better for air manager or a regular hd monitor. Also thank you for all the information, since it made me realize can do a flight sim with out a instrument panel, just some good thought and set up of panels. A lot less costly when on a budget. Again thanks for all the info and great videos, been very helpful.
David I think HD is fine unless it is the B737 overhead panel available at Sim Innovations and needs a 35-42 “ 4K monitor. If your panel monitor is smaller than 32“ HD is great
Yes you need to calibrate the touch grid. I have been asked this do many times I made a video to save me keystrokes 😀 th-cam.com/video/aimr829SEjw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Z8eobbToA_g5AmG2
Have you managed to get Two identical Amazon special!! Touch screens to work in windows 11. I’m having a problem with only one of the touch screens have touch working. It seems as if windows only supports 1 touch screen. Any help would be much appreciated.
Look great. I am building my sim now and I am ready to buy all the avionics like the flight swith panel, audio panel and the other NAV and COM panels separate that are about 1200.00 USD. With this I don't need that do I? Using Air Manager?
Yes all the real sim gear units are are monitors with a hardware Arduino bezel that surrounds the popped out display form X-Plane. The Air Manager bezel serves the same purpose and with a Knobster for the knob inputs it is almost as functional as the RSG hardware but of course the hardware looks better and you have actual buttons and not a touch screen. I like to say touchscreen with Knobster give you about 90% of the realism for 25% of the price.
@@rbarlow Yes sir! Thanks for the info. Im about 6700.00 into my build and have not yet completed the cockpit frame. I think another 2 or 3 weeks should be completed. BUt I am always looking for added info. You make some good points. I just bought 2 15.6 inch touchscreen monitors on Amazon for all my gps and other necessary instruments through AM. Im not sure how to configure everything yet software wise. I might need a USB hub large enough for several connections. I broke down and bought the Omen i9 3080 32 GB with 1 TB HD and 1 2TB HD. I paid dearly for this but my son convinced me to go better for the FPS and other necessary needs of a flight sim. Q: Where did you get or download the XPLANE-1000 instrument showing on the screen? I'm running FS. Thanks for all your input?
Thanks for this contribution! I have developed some sort of dashboard for the Baron 58 under P3D. I have never got that running under X-Plane again. This might be my opportunity to obtain something even much better. I have searched your earlier videos. Air Manager seems to be the tool of choice indeed. I have not found any readily usable G1000 bezels at Sim Innovations. Do these exist, or should everyone develop these for him- or herself? Whatever it is, I think I am going to try!
In getting the 15.6” T-screen added to the x plane11 cause any problems with...say frame rates or tax the desktop badly? Ooo...and how will u do ur comm panel - vertically like realty?...
HI Russ great watching your video's. imvery new to flight sim, coming from racing sim. may I ask you if you if its safe to use upto 4 touch screen tablets with tripple screen . Would this be overkill on my system. i7 rtx 3070. Thank you very much for your time. regards Andi
Love your videos Russ and realize this one is quite old. I just purchased 2 Prechen and while each touch screen works individually, the computer (brand new) won't recognize both simultaneously and there is only 1 HID-compliant touch screen in device manager. Any suggestions?
You probably haven't calibrated the monitors touch. The usb touch signals and the monitors are not automatically associated. Try going to settings and search "calibrate". By default Windows assumes the touch is on the Main monitor as defined in your Display settings. You should see something like "calibrate pen and touch" . Select it and follow the prompts on screen. It will cycle through your monitors displaying a white screen on each with the instructions to touch it if a touch monitor or press return if not. This will help Windows know which touch signals belong to which monitor. Let me know if this is not the answer.
@@rbarlow Thanks. I've tried that but no success. It looks like it may be a known issue with the Prechen monitors. I'm returning them and going to try WIMAXIT. Hopefully things will go smoother. I'll let you know what I find.
Hi. Do you have any plans or video on your desk foundation that supports the various components? In one of your videos the uprights from the floor look interesting. Any plans?
I believe I made videos of both my multi monitor some platform and the VR Sim that I built. No time to search them out right now but you can look through my past videos and find them pretty easily I think
Russ, I am in the investigative stages of planning a VR-based cockpit (Oculus RIFT S with X-Plane 11) using many ideas from your May 10, 2019 DIY video. I am hoping Knobster is available soon so I can include tactile knobs in my new plan, really important, I think. This video may indicate you are moving away from implementing your VR cockpit plan, which concerns me. Always interested in your experienced thinking.
@@ryanford8500 what does the whole kit cost (panel, knobs, EELGO, par. cable, ethernet shield, etc.)? and why doesn't the XPLANE coupon code work? Thanks! I don't know where to get the knobster in stock so I thought I'd ask you about your products
Sure as long as your laptop has a video out to support a second monitor. I use one with my non-touch screen laptop. Just be sure you calibrate the touch monitors if you will have two touch screens so Windows can associate the touch signal with the proper monitor.
Russ, Question for you... I'm starting to add-on to my X-Plane 11 home cockpit. I have yoke, throttle, pedals, RealSimGear 530, light switches & magneto key panel, Flap panel and one (1) Saitek FIP so far. I'm seriously considering the Air Manager desktop and run on a ~13" touchscreen mounted to my cockpit panel (I know you'd prefer larger touchscreen, like your 15.6", but I'm running out of real estate). I mostly run a Cessna 172, and put a 6-pack on the touch screen and use my other gear, like the one FIP for other gauges. So my question, using Air Manager desktop, while in-flight can you change the display configuration to see other instruments temporarily, like switch from 6-pack, to VOR1 & 2 CDI's, or engine gauges, and then flip back to 6-pack, while flying. Or do switching require a re-start of X-plane??
Doug at Caledonia Sound and Recording Studio that functionality is not offered in any existing panel but is certainly possible to create. I made a small test panel that had three touch buttons to jump between three panels. If you could lay out the three panels using existing free instruments I could help add the switching functionality.
I have followed these videos to use the G-1000. I have found how to remove or hide bezels except x-plane bitmap folder does not show the G-1000 panel bezel. Where is it? This is the only thing holding me back. I need to get this sorted before I order the knobster. Please please please respond.
Hi Russ. What's the most recent update on the knobster? If I wanted to build one myself, where would the script/code be available? The knobster would be a wonderful complement to this monitor.
Wilson Edgar if you tell me how to contact you vis private email I can help you do a DIY version. The new Knobster May not ship until late August but will be a true plug and play usb device.
Hi Russ, I've setup something like this with airmanager and a knobster. I'm using your G1000 instrument for airmanager, the issue is when I click on a dial and rotate the knob I often can't click on any of the buttons. The selected rotary switch remains selected. Seen anything like that? Thanks again for the great videos.
The yellow selection stays where you last clicked to select until you select another dial or rotary switch. That’s normal. But that should no affect clicking any buttons. Even if you click another instruments buttons the yellow highlight remains until you select another knob. Are you using the release version or the 4.0 beta? I assume you are using XP11? Tell me a little more detail.
Yes you need it to get useful touch (or Knobster ) input. It requires using a bezel made with Air Manager over and framing the screen popped out from the sim. You can pop out the G1000 window with bezel but the knobs are almost impossible to use on a touch screen.
Hello Russ, to what computer you connected the touch screen? to the same one of the Sim 2020? where you install the Air Manager? you need the Air Play too? Thanks, rodi.
Yes both on the same computer if you intend to use a popped out(undocked) Nav display in the panel. Air Manager is a separate app and there is a plugin to install in the Simulator so the two can talk. Air Manager can run on a separate computer but you obviously cannot drag undocked windows from one computer to another.
Russ, I just got one of these 15.6 prechen monitors. Can you explain how to hook this up? This monitor of course was made in China and the instructions, although written in English, sort of, don’t make sense.
There needs to be a Anti-Gravity overlay as the modern control system for newly planned drones and passenger & warplanes. The New World Foundation - Omnijet Ind.
Miguel Delaguardia try turning on click-through in settings and it will be clear...this is a bug that they know about and is being fixed. Be sure you have the latest updates when they are released.
In this video I’m using explain 11. I am working on a bezel for Air Manager that will work with FS 2020. Unfortunately Microsoft has not provided the ability to create plug-ins as yet, but Sim Innovations has created a bridge application that will allow data to be passed to and from the bezel and it should be available in a week or so. Watch my channel and I will unveil it as soon as it is available. It will allow us of Knobster too.
Hey Russ, any update on this? I'm loving MSFS and Air Manager (I have some videos posted on my channel of my setup... Inspired by you.. and I thank you for that). I understand Microsoft/Asobo are operating in a sandbox and not letting the sim community come in and play yet. In any case, wondering if there is any chance of work-arounds? Or if we have a timeline from Microsoft yet as to when third party/open source devs will have an SDK? I'm enjoying the Air Manager BETA demo panel, but it's killing me not having the ability to control my radios from my touchscreen panel and having to come inside the cockpit for extended periods of time while scrolling the mousewheel for what feels like an eternity. I even considered dropping the $150 on a Logitech radio panel because I'm afraid Microsoft won't allow for this capability any time soon. I held off and I'm hoping someone may have some updated timeline info from them. Thanks again for all the info you put out! I'm looking into reaching out to a 3D print house to fabricste your flap detent add-on, when I finally get my honeycomb bravo. Also saw someone that created a "chunky throttle" and provided the design files. Considering that as well. New to the sim world as of last August and I am all in 😆👍
Hi Russ, I now have 2 Prechen screens, Air Manager and everything else as required, ordered my knobster today...I can't get the touch function on the screen to work, is there anything I need to setup up or activate in Air Manager or X-Plane to get touch screen functionality? Also, I'd very much like to make my Carenado C210 panel a G1000 setup, would this be possible at all, in particular the engine instruments on the MFD panel, I'd like to do the same for the Baron 58 too, will appreciate all the guidance and advice, thanks.
Stephen Alberts is your Touchscreen responding in windows? When you plug in and unplug the monitors usb to the computer do you hear the windows connect/disconnect tone? If so Can you move folders and open apps with your finger? If not you need to set up your touch in windows. If not you need to help windows know which monitors are touch so it can associate the inputs with the correct monitor. You can search Google for more information but in settings if you search for calibrate I think it will offer you a choice to calibrate pen and touch monitors.During the process it will highlight each monitor and have you touch them if they are touch monitors or hit enter on your keyboard if they are not. Once you have that set up correctly it should be fine in air manager.
Thanks Russ, I managed to get Win 10 to recognize the Prechen touch screen, the touch functionality is now in order, yet Air Manager does not allow touch commands through in the selected panel, I can't find anything in the Air Manager manual to activate this functionality. Thanks for your reply and guidance above, so far my sim is coming along nicely, the aim is to make both my two new Preschen screens that of the G1000 PFD and MFD for both my Cessna 210 and Baron 58, I'll be the happiest man alive if I can get a working G1000 for both these aircraft in X-Plane 11. Appreciate your advice and responses, thank you kindly.
Stephen Alberts did you got to the settings menu and select touch as the input method. Also, in the Panels tab of AM you need to scroll down below the layout on the right and select KnobsterA to enabled. Each panel must be enabled for Knobster functionality
Thanks Russ, Prechen screens now working, touch functionality working through AM, I ordered the knobster on Sunday, I expect this to arrive in 3-4 weeks from NL, due COVID-19 transport delays to Australia.....thanks for your support, greatly appreciated.
Hi Russ, Can you tell me what 12V DC power adapter you use to power this monitor? I just purchased the monitor and I want to use touchscreen but can't unless a 12V power adapter is used in conjunction with the USB C and unfortunately no power adapter was included with the monitor.
Scott Roberts my Monitors came with an adapter that is 5v 1000mA and that powers my Monitor thru the usb-c connection. I use the miniUSB port for the touch screen connection. Have you tried connecting it to a USB adapter with 1000 mA or greater capacity?
@@rbarlow Hi Russ, I have my monitor powered through the usb-c port by a 5v/2A adapter that came with the monitor and a hdmi cable goes to the desktop graphics card. In order to get touch capability I will have to run the usb-c cable to a usb port on the desktop which will in turn not give the monitor any significant amount of power. The monitor only has one usb-c slot, two hdmi slots, and a 12V power slot so it looks like I would have to use the 12V DC adapter that the directions say is required to have touch and enough power to run everything. (Unfortunately Prechen didn't include the 12V DC power adapter, that is why I thought you might know what adapter would work because the pin type connector would need to be a specific size to fit the slot.) Does your monitor have more than one usb-c slot? BTW, I am original USAir too.
@@scottroberts5625 actually my current Prechen Monitors did have both a USB-C and a mini-USB port so I used one for power and the second for the touch. For Christmas I got another Prechen and it is exactly as you describe. I hadn't opened it until now. I guess I need a 12V adapter too. They are readily available in Amazon search Belker 30W Universal 3V 4.5V 5V 6V 7.5V 9V 12V AC DC Power Adapter www.amazon.com/Belker-Universal-Adapter-Household-Electronics/dp/B078LSVVTB/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=12V+%5Bpower+adapter&qid=1577655406&sr=8-7 Looks like it should do what is needed any voltage/amperage and plug. I am going to order it now so I will let you know if it works. Where were you based at USAir? I was in PIT
I reached out to Prechen customer support (didn't think I would get a response) but they did answer and suggested this adapter too: www.amazon.com/BOLWEO-100-240V-Compatible-Connector-3-5mmx1-35mm/dp/B078X5DCFC/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=3.5*1.35+mm+dc+adapter&qid=1577692360&sr=8-1-fkmr1 So I guess there are two options now. Forgive me for being a "noob" but I am new to Air Manager and X-Plane 11 but when I get the new panel set in Air Manager how do I get X-Plane to use it (I have the plug-in installed)? Do I go into settings and select the new display and keep it set at "Unused", or do I set it similar to the other displays (I have three more in use)? BTW, I am using a third party Van's RV8 airplane, don't know if that makes a difference.
The specs look excellent but I have no personal experience with it. Reputable brand name. I think I would buy it if I was in the market. If you buy it let me know how it works out.
Hello. Can someone help me please? I got a Rechen touch screen monitor. I think I got it well connected. But When I try the touch function I works but in the main monitor not the touch screen one. I do not know what I am doing wrong.
Fernando Javier you Need to calibrate the monitor. Windows doesn’t know how to correlate the touch function with the monitor screens so it assumes the touch sensor is over the main screen. Go to windows settings and search for “calibrate“. You should see a choice like “calibrate pen and touch monitors”. It will then cycle through each monitor and as you to touch them so it can figure out which touch grid is associated with which monitor. Hope that helps.
This video is mostly to cover the hardware, but several of my other videos to talk about using the Air Manager basil and the pop out GPS windows from X-Plane. Super busy right now but if you can’t find it feel free to write back and I’ll try to help you out
The screen would be plugged into a laptop with USB-C capability ... so basically, it would be an extended monitor connected to your laptop. The software would run on the laptop as there are no brains in the touch-screen monitor (as i understand it)...now granted , im just now trying to figure this all out so i could be out in left field and this could be a total tablet solution with a processor and everything
Great vid, I am a retired Army Pilot and still like to keep my head in the cockpit even if it is virtual. I had been vacillating over FCU hardware and then I stumbled on Air Manager and after seeing your vid I know what I need to do. Like you I dont want to pigeon hole myself to one type of aircraft.
This is a great presentation indeed! I'm in the process of reviewing the various flightsim gadgets in the market and since I'm on a tight budget I am mostly keen to go for a software that will allow me to operate various aircraft formats using the same hardware. "Your" low-cost flatpanel touch monitors mated with the "Air Manager " software are the answer to this! ...Oh yes I'm so much like you because I really don't like sticking around with one aircraft type (read C172) but I like hopping between various types (my favourite being C152, PA28R, C206, Gippsland GA-8, PA34 Seneca 2, BE55, C310R, PA31, C402C, C404 Titan, Tecnam P2012, C208 Caravan, Pilatus PC12, DHC6 Twin-Otter, BE200 Super King Air, BE1900C, BAe Jetstream 41, DHC-8, Fokker 50, ATR 42/72, CRJ200, B737, B757/767, A310, MD11, B777, B787 'Dreamliner', B747, etc. I presume this sim would be able to cover most if not all of these aircraft types.
I may have to try this because I hate mousing knob controls! Thanks!
I bought a 15.6" touchscreen from Amazon and it is great Russ! I'm just getting started in flight sim with x-plane 11 and appreciate all the great videos that you have done!
This is brilliant. These with the knobs term and I’ve got exactly what I’ve been looking for!! Love your videos. I used a Leo Bodnar USB interface to build a sim racing dashboard. I also use the switches on it to bind controls for my flying sim - calling up maps, gear up down etc etc. Super easy plug and play to use and helps eliminate keyboard strokes which I hate.
It is the first time I see a caliber on the table of a flight simmer !!! ... GREAT !!!
Touch screen seems like a great option for flight sim. You can use for different planes as u said. Much better than mouse.
I need to get hold of you if I can.
I am looking to do exactly what you are showing but need to show you my setup .
Many thanks for your videos.
Randy
SimPilot 2018 try emailing. I am at barlow320 under the mail domain at gmail. Don’t like to put it in a forum as an email format.
would be cool if Stay Level or someone else could offer a complete PFD and MFD setup with Knobster, controls, hood, etc
I think they will. You may have to buy the components and ship them to their location
I bought the Prechen 15.6 Touch Screen on Amazon for $229.99. Also bought Air Manager and found I was not able to get the touchscreen feature to work. Mouse input worked but it was a no-go on the touchscreen. I then noticed that you had 3 connections on the Prechen in your video. I only had the HDMI and powered USB hooked up. There's an input for a DC 12 volt power adapter but this did not come with that adapter nor was it listed on what was included on Amazon. I then took note in the Operating Instructions of this caveat "If you want to use the touch function, you need to connect both the USB cable and the DC Power adapter". That was contrary to what was in the description which makes no mention of the necessity of connecting the DC 12v power adapter if you want the touchscreen to work properly. I'm in the process of ordering a DC 12v power adapter now. They are relatively inexpensive. Curious if Russ or others who ordered this particular monitor did not receive a DC 12v power adapter and is it required to get the touchscreen function to work as stated in the enclosed instructions.
Was finally able to get this touchscreen to work. My unfamiliarity with touchscreen monitors and the terrible English translations in the manual that came with the monitor and the video link the manufacturer sent to me, contributed to the problems I was having. My setup is a home built system with an i7-9700 clocked at 5.0GHz, DDR4 32Gb @ 3200MHz, GeForce GTX 1080 Ti with 11Gb memory, GeForce GT730, and a 39inch 4k Seiku monitor. Initially I tried to use the onboard graphics built into my rig to run the monitor without a lot of success. I next added the GT730 card to run the monitor. That was met with some initial success except the touch screen function on this monitor Instead of showing up on this monitor was showing up on my main 4k monitor. I eventually discovered that settings for touchscreen in Windows10 can be found under Ease of Access, Vision, Cursor & Pointer, Change Touch Feedback. I was able to shut down the effect of touching this monitor being broadcast to my larger non-touch monitor. Monitor is working great with just two connection, the USB to a powered USB hub and the HMDI to my GT730 graphics card. I've backordered a Knobster which should be coming soon.
@@vpwebsvc wow, this is what i would like to do. sounds pretty rough there for a while but you're getting it figured out. toward the end you say you are only using the usb connection (powered hub) and the HDMI to your main gaming PC (in other words, you are not using a laptop to drive this monitor) via a GT730 graphics card.... where did you plug in the GT730 in your gaming PC? I have a RTX 2080Ti and it's taking up my only 16x PCI-E slot... so is it running in a 4x PCI-E slot? also, since you had the powered USB hub, has this eliminated the need for the 12V power brick?
Turns out getting the touchscreen to work with the Prechen monitor was a Windows 10 touchscreen set up process that needed to be followed. I'm currently running a 4k 39" monitor on a GTX 1080 Ti card in a PCIe x 16 slot and the Prechen monitor on a GT 730 card in a PCIe x1 slot. The 39" monitor is my #1 monitor and the Prechen #2. These are connected to a very high-end desktop computer. The Windows 10 setup for touchscreen setup will show both monitors and you indicate which ones are touchscreen. In my case #1 is not and #2 is touchscreen. Once that was done everything was OK. There's no need to add a DC 12volt power adapter to the Prechen unless you don't have enough power coming from the USB port the monitor is connected to. I have a large powered hub so that wasn't necessary in my case. My current plan is to get another Prechen 15.6 monitor, add a 2nd less powerful computer, and have the folks at Stay Level build me an avionics panel. That panel will accommodate the 2 Prechen monitors, a Knobster, a Yoko yoke, a Virtual Fly throttle, a Saitek switch panel and Saitek multi-panel. The 2nd computer will run these and the high end computer the 4k monitor for the main outside visuals.
@@vpwebsvc wow, a lot to digest, i'm saving this as a bookmark !!!! i will check to see if i have a slot avail. been using them to add more USB's. I think my computer is overloaded by USB's. When i plug the Honeycomb in before booting, i lock up before windows fully loads..causes tons of problems. it's a previous problem ive had and had to work all the USB devices. I have a USB powered hub on the way but will probably need even more powered hubs..not sure how many a gaming PC can handle (total # of USB devices), but anyway, this is great info...between you and OP, I'm on information overload. Can't wait to pursue this further...thanks so much!!!!
@@vpwebsvc are you aware of any other 15.6 that is better than the Prechen for a similar or lower cost now that you've had this setup a while? I ask that because , the OP (Russ) mentioned that the Prechen is rated at 250 CD per meter squared (Candles per meter squared) and is not well suited for day-light. If you think the Prechen is great so far, then i might just do that one. But if you have any info on another one, I will pull the trigger on that right away as I already have the Air Manager and Air Player purchased as of an hour ago. They did not have the Knobster in stock so it wouldn't let me back-order it even. Anyway, any help on this would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks for the quick reply and the copious information.
nice formfactor indeed, and great panel i think , IPS for sure.
All your videos are just so awesome, professional and helpful. I got 3 of these Pretchen units but I have yet to be able to get the touch function to work. Got the display going but touch will not work. Connections made are as follows Computer HDMI out to display HDMI in, Computer USB A to Display USB C, power transformer to USB C on Display. Am I missing something? Should I be connecting the USB A on the display to the USB A on the computer to enable touchscreen? Any help would be a godsend.
Sounds like you may not have calibrated the touchscreens
See my video
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Thank you so much for making this video, can you show us how to set up the software to work like this thank you 😁
Does Air Manger work on commercial airliners ? If so, it would be nice to have a special tutorial video for airliners
Thank you
Hello! and Thanks for the explication but what version of Xplane do you have? I try the same in other panel (Samsung Tab) and I can only move the selector Knobs in one location, down and up, never around, and is impossible to select and change the altimeter and the heading. The buttons DME, PFD, etc works good.
Good day do you have a link where it shows all the steps you did to achieve this thnx
Very nice find. Thanks for sharing.
Can this exact panel layout be shared in airmanager for all to use? I just bought these monitors and ordered a knobster.
hey! how did you find an in-stock knobster?
Hello Russ thanks for sharing all this good info. with us I have a WIMAXIT 15.6 that you used in one of your previous vids. Im using win.10 with all the updates and XP 12.3 for the sim when hooked up per inst. the touch screen works but it works on my main monitor and not on the Wimaxit not sure what I'm doing wrong I'm out of ideas some help please thanks much.
Hi, would a 4k monitor be better for air manager or a regular hd monitor. Also thank you for all the information, since it made me realize can do a flight sim with out a instrument panel, just some good thought and set up of panels. A lot less costly when on a budget. Again thanks for all the info and great videos, been very helpful.
David I think HD is fine unless it is the B737 overhead panel available at Sim Innovations and needs a 35-42 “ 4K monitor. If your panel monitor is smaller than 32“ HD is great
@@rbarlow thanks again
I want to use Air Manger on my Mac Air M1 willl the touch screen works on this monitor?
very cool they also sell smaller 10"-15" sizes oh looks like onlly the 15.6 is touch
they make 13.3 touch screens that have great brightness
I just bought this item from Amazon and I cannot get thte touchscreen to work....any clue?
Any help would be appreciated
Yes you need to calibrate the touch grid. I have been asked this do many times I made a video to save me keystrokes 😀
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Have you managed to get Two identical Amazon special!! Touch screens to work in windows 11. I’m having a problem with only one of the touch screens have touch working. It seems as if windows only supports 1 touch screen. Any help would be much appreciated.
Look great. I am building my sim now and I am ready to buy all the avionics like the flight swith panel, audio panel and the other NAV and COM panels separate that are about 1200.00 USD. With this I don't need that do I? Using Air Manager?
Yes all the real sim gear units are are monitors with a hardware Arduino bezel that surrounds the popped out display form X-Plane. The Air Manager bezel serves the same purpose and with a Knobster for the knob inputs it is almost as functional as the RSG hardware but of course the hardware looks better and you have actual buttons and not a touch screen. I like to say touchscreen with Knobster give you about 90% of the realism for 25% of the price.
@@rbarlow Thanks for that. Im having trouble finding a touch screen monitor that has 1920 resolution. Looked everywhere. Thanks for any help
@@rbarlow Yes sir! Thanks for the info. Im about 6700.00 into my build and have not yet completed the cockpit frame. I think another 2 or 3 weeks should be completed. BUt I am always looking for added info. You make some good points. I just bought 2 15.6 inch touchscreen monitors on Amazon for all my gps and other necessary instruments through AM. Im not sure how to configure everything yet software wise. I might need a USB hub large enough for several connections.
I broke down and bought the Omen i9 3080 32 GB with 1 TB HD and 1 2TB HD. I paid dearly for this but my son convinced me to go better for the FPS and other necessary needs of a flight sim.
Q: Where did you get or download the XPLANE-1000 instrument showing on the screen? I'm running FS. Thanks for all your input?
Hello thx for the video. But does it work for Boeing and airbus too??
Thanks for this contribution! I have developed some sort of dashboard for the Baron 58 under P3D. I have never got that running under X-Plane again. This might be my opportunity to obtain something even much better. I have searched your earlier videos. Air Manager seems to be the tool of choice indeed. I have not found any readily usable G1000 bezels at Sim Innovations. Do these exist, or should everyone develop these for him- or herself? Whatever it is, I think I am going to try!
In getting the 15.6” T-screen added to the x plane11 cause any problems with...say frame rates or tax the desktop badly? Ooo...and how will u do ur comm panel - vertically like realty?...
Thanks for the plug - cool! 6:45
what do you guys manufacture, or develop?
Cool! Have you thought about such a set up for combat flight sims like DCS?
Efraim Otero Heck yes as a former fighter pilot in RL but problem is DCS has no SDK and it isn’t that easy to implement with Air Manager.
HI Russ great watching your video's. imvery new to flight sim, coming from racing sim. may I ask you if you if its safe to use upto 4 touch screen tablets with tripple screen . Would this be overkill on my system. i7 rtx 3070. Thank you very much for your time. regards Andi
Love your videos Russ and realize this one is quite old. I just purchased 2 Prechen and while each touch screen works individually, the computer (brand new) won't recognize both simultaneously and there is only 1 HID-compliant touch screen in device manager. Any suggestions?
You probably haven't calibrated the monitors touch. The usb touch signals and the monitors are not automatically associated. Try going to settings and search "calibrate". By default Windows assumes the touch is on the Main monitor as defined in your Display settings. You should see something like "calibrate pen and touch" . Select it and follow the prompts on screen. It will cycle through your monitors displaying a white screen on each with the instructions to touch it if a touch monitor or press return if not. This will help Windows know which touch signals belong to which monitor. Let me know if this is not the answer.
@@rbarlow Thanks. I've tried that but no success. It looks like it may be a known issue with the Prechen monitors. I'm returning them and going to try WIMAXIT. Hopefully things will go smoother. I'll let you know what I find.
Hi. Do you have any plans or video on your desk foundation that supports the various components? In one of your videos the uprights from the floor look interesting. Any plans?
I believe I made videos of both my multi monitor some platform and the VR Sim that I built. No time to search them out right now but you can look through my past videos and find them pretty easily I think
Russ, I am in the investigative stages of planning a VR-based cockpit (Oculus RIFT S with X-Plane 11) using many ideas from your May 10, 2019 DIY video. I am hoping Knobster is available soon so I can include tactile knobs in my new plan, really important, I think. This video may indicate you are moving away from implementing your VR cockpit plan, which concerns me. Always interested in your experienced thinking.
Bob Harrington don’t go knobster. Try my panel at PeninsulaSims.com
@@ryanford8500 which panel?
@@ryanford8500 what does the whole kit cost (panel, knobs, EELGO, par. cable, ethernet shield, etc.)? and why doesn't the XPLANE coupon code work? Thanks! I don't know where to get the knobster in stock so I thought I'd ask you about your products
Is that panel from msfs? Or does the gauge software have these types of glass panels as well?
Can I use a touch screen enabled laptop with this?
Sure as long as your laptop has a video out to support a second monitor. I use one with my non-touch screen laptop. Just be sure you calibrate the touch monitors if you will have two touch screens so Windows can associate the touch signal with the proper monitor.
Looks good. Can you provide that link?
Found it, I forgot you showed the name in the video.
Mr. Russ can you use this for fsx. Can you make videos like this with fsx.
Russ, Question for you...
I'm starting to add-on to my X-Plane 11 home cockpit. I have yoke, throttle, pedals, RealSimGear 530, light switches & magneto key panel, Flap panel and one (1) Saitek FIP so far.
I'm seriously considering the Air Manager desktop and run on a ~13" touchscreen mounted to my cockpit panel (I know you'd prefer larger touchscreen, like your 15.6", but I'm running out of real estate).
I mostly run a Cessna 172, and put a 6-pack on the touch screen and use my other gear, like the one FIP for other gauges.
So my question, using Air Manager desktop, while in-flight can you change the display configuration to see other instruments temporarily, like switch from 6-pack, to VOR1 & 2 CDI's, or engine gauges, and then flip back to 6-pack, while flying. Or do switching require a re-start of X-plane??
Doug at Caledonia Sound and Recording Studio that functionality is not offered in any existing panel but is certainly possible to create. I made a small test panel that had three touch buttons to jump between three panels. If you could lay out the three panels using existing free instruments I could help add the switching functionality.
I have followed these videos to use the G-1000. I have found how to remove or hide bezels except x-plane bitmap folder does not show the G-1000 panel bezel. Where is it? This is the only thing holding me back. I need to get this sorted before I order the knobster. Please please please respond.
Hi Russ. What's the most recent update on the knobster? If I wanted to build one myself, where would the script/code be available?
The knobster would be a wonderful complement to this monitor.
Wilson Edgar if you tell me how to contact you vis private email I can help you do a DIY version. The new Knobster May not ship until late August but will be a true plug and play usb device.
@@rbarlow wilsonedgar1968@yahoo.com
I would also like to play with script/code for my own current DIY.
jjkkff1@gmail.com
Check out my panel instead of knobster. PeninsulaSims.com.
@@ryanford8500 Looks nice. Could you send more info? I visited the site and didn't see more details. What's pre-programmed in your Mega 2560?
Hi Russ, I've setup something like this with airmanager and a knobster. I'm using your G1000 instrument for airmanager, the issue is when I click on a dial and rotate the knob I often can't click on any of the buttons. The selected rotary switch remains selected. Seen anything like that? Thanks again for the great videos.
The yellow selection stays where you last clicked to select until you select another dial or rotary switch. That’s normal. But that should no affect clicking any buttons. Even if you click another instruments buttons the yellow highlight remains until you select another knob. Are you using the release version or the 4.0 beta? I assume you are using XP11? Tell me a little more detail.
Do you need Air Manager to use the touchscreen with the G1000?
Yes you need it to get useful touch (or Knobster ) input. It requires using a bezel made with Air Manager over and framing the screen popped out from the sim. You can pop out the G1000 window with bezel but the knobs are almost impossible to use on a touch screen.
Can you control 2 x monitors with one knobster?
Hello, can i use same method for msfs for example A320 mcdu?
I’m really not sure. MSFS is still evolving but you couldn’t as of a month ago or so
What flight simulator you use Xplane or Microsoft 2020?
Both! X-Plane for training and MSFS for sightseeing and fun.
Hello Russ, to what computer you connected the touch screen? to the same one of the Sim 2020?
where you install the Air Manager?
you need the Air Play too?
Thanks,
rodi.
Yes both on the same computer if you intend to use a popped out(undocked) Nav display in the panel. Air Manager is a separate app and there is a plugin to install in the Simulator so the two can talk. Air Manager can run on a separate computer but you obviously cannot drag undocked windows from one computer to another.
@@rbarlow Thanks. I ordered www.amazon.com/Zenscreen-MB16AMT-Portable-Non-Glare-Speakers/dp/B07WC2NL2G
Russ,
I just got one of these 15.6 prechen monitors.
Can you explain how to hook this up? This monitor of course was made in China and the instructions, although written in English, sort of, don’t make sense.
Same here, I cannot get the touch to function. Terrible Chinglish instructions!!!
There needs to be a Anti-Gravity overlay as the modern control system for newly planned drones and passenger & warplanes.
The New World Foundation - Omnijet Ind.
Hi Russ, Is there a problem with Air Manager? I can't the transparency feature to work. The Xplane G1000 windows are not visible.
Miguel Delaguardia try turning on click-through in settings and it will be clear...this is a bug that they know about and is being fixed. Be sure you have the latest updates when they are released.
Where can I get one
What flight simulator you are using Xplane 11 or Microsoft simulator 2020?
In this video I’m using explain 11. I am working on a bezel for Air Manager that will work with FS 2020. Unfortunately Microsoft has not provided the ability to create plug-ins as yet, but Sim Innovations has created a bridge application that will allow data to be passed to and from the bezel and it should be available in a week or so. Watch my channel and I will unveil it as soon as it is available. It will allow us of Knobster too.
Hey Russ, any update on this? I'm loving MSFS and Air Manager (I have some videos posted on my channel of my setup... Inspired by you.. and I thank you for that).
I understand Microsoft/Asobo are operating in a sandbox and not letting the sim community come in and play yet.
In any case, wondering if there is any chance of work-arounds? Or if we have a timeline from Microsoft yet as to when third party/open source devs will have an SDK?
I'm enjoying the Air Manager BETA demo panel, but it's killing me not having the ability to control my radios from my touchscreen panel and having to come inside the cockpit for extended periods of time while scrolling the mousewheel for what feels like an eternity. I even considered dropping the $150 on a Logitech radio panel because I'm afraid Microsoft won't allow for this capability any time soon. I held off and I'm hoping someone may have some updated timeline info from them.
Thanks again for all the info you put out! I'm looking into reaching out to a 3D print house to fabricste your flap detent add-on, when I finally get my honeycomb bravo. Also saw someone that created a "chunky throttle" and provided the design files. Considering that as well. New to the sim world as of last August and I am all in 😆👍
Hi Russ, I now have 2 Prechen screens, Air Manager and everything else as required, ordered my knobster today...I can't get the touch function on the screen to work, is there anything I need to setup up or activate in Air Manager or X-Plane to get touch screen functionality? Also, I'd very much like to make my Carenado C210 panel a G1000 setup, would this be possible at all, in particular the engine instruments on the MFD panel, I'd like to do the same for the Baron 58 too, will appreciate all the guidance and advice, thanks.
Stephen Alberts is your Touchscreen responding in windows? When you plug in and unplug the monitors usb to the computer do you hear the windows connect/disconnect tone? If so Can you move folders and open apps with your finger? If not you need to set up your touch in windows. If not you need to help windows know which monitors are touch so it can associate the inputs with the correct monitor. You can search Google for more information but in settings if you search for calibrate I think it will offer you a choice to calibrate pen and touch monitors.During the process it will highlight each monitor and have you touch them if they are touch monitors or hit enter on your keyboard if they are not. Once you have that set up correctly it should be fine in air manager.
Thanks Russ, I managed to get Win 10 to recognize the Prechen touch screen, the touch functionality is now in order, yet Air Manager does not allow touch commands through in the selected panel, I can't find anything in the Air Manager manual to activate this functionality. Thanks for your reply and guidance above, so far my sim is coming along nicely, the aim is to make both my two new Preschen screens that of the G1000 PFD and MFD for both my Cessna 210 and Baron 58, I'll be the happiest man alive if I can get a working G1000 for both these aircraft in X-Plane 11. Appreciate your advice and responses, thank you kindly.
Stephen Alberts did you got to the settings menu and select touch as the input method. Also, in the Panels tab of AM you need to scroll down below the layout on the right and select KnobsterA to enabled. Each panel must be enabled for Knobster functionality
Thanks Russ, Prechen screens now working, touch functionality working through AM, I ordered the knobster on Sunday, I expect this to arrive in 3-4 weeks from NL, due COVID-19 transport delays to Australia.....thanks for your support, greatly appreciated.
Hi Russ, Can you tell me what 12V DC power adapter you use to power this monitor? I just purchased the monitor and I want to use touchscreen but can't unless a 12V power adapter is used in conjunction with the USB C and unfortunately no power adapter was included with the monitor.
Scott Roberts my Monitors came with an adapter that is 5v 1000mA and that powers my Monitor thru the usb-c connection. I use the miniUSB port for the touch screen connection. Have you tried connecting it to a USB adapter with 1000 mA or greater capacity?
@@rbarlow Hi Russ, I have my monitor powered through the usb-c port by a 5v/2A adapter that came with the monitor and a hdmi cable goes to the desktop graphics card. In order to get touch capability I will have to run the usb-c cable to a usb port on the desktop which will in turn not give the monitor any significant amount of power.
The monitor only has one usb-c slot, two hdmi slots, and a 12V power slot so it looks like I would have to use the 12V DC adapter that the directions say is required to have touch and enough power to run everything. (Unfortunately Prechen didn't include the 12V DC power adapter, that is why I thought you might know what adapter would work because the pin type connector would need to be a specific size to fit the slot.) Does your monitor have more than one usb-c slot?
BTW, I am original USAir too.
@@scottroberts5625 actually my current Prechen Monitors did have both a USB-C and a mini-USB port so I used one for power and the second for the touch. For Christmas I got another Prechen and it is exactly as you describe. I hadn't opened it until now. I guess I need a 12V adapter too. They are readily available in Amazon search
Belker 30W Universal 3V 4.5V 5V 6V 7.5V 9V 12V AC DC Power Adapter
www.amazon.com/Belker-Universal-Adapter-Household-Electronics/dp/B078LSVVTB/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=12V+%5Bpower+adapter&qid=1577655406&sr=8-7
Looks like it should do what is needed any voltage/amperage and plug. I am going to order it now so I will let you know if it works.
Where were you based at USAir? I was in PIT
@@rbarlow I was in PIT too, 5 years after you were hired. 727-200, 737-300 and 400
I reached out to Prechen customer support (didn't think I would get a response) but they did answer and suggested this adapter too: www.amazon.com/BOLWEO-100-240V-Compatible-Connector-3-5mmx1-35mm/dp/B078X5DCFC/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=3.5*1.35+mm+dc+adapter&qid=1577692360&sr=8-1-fkmr1
So I guess there are two options now. Forgive me for being a "noob" but I am new to Air Manager and X-Plane 11 but when I get the new panel set in Air Manager how do I get X-Plane to use it (I have the plug-in installed)? Do I go into settings and select the new display and keep it set at "Unused", or do I set it similar to the other displays (I have three more in use)? BTW, I am using a third party Van's RV8 airplane, don't know if that makes a difference.
Hi Russ,
What do you think of this monitor: Acer UT241Y bmiuzx 23.8” Full HD (1920 x 1080) Zero Frame IPS Touchscreen Monitor?
Thanks
The specs look excellent but I have no personal experience with it. Reputable brand name. I think I would buy it if I was in the market. If you buy it let me know how it works out.
Hello. Can someone help me please? I got a Rechen touch screen monitor. I think I got it well connected. But When I try the touch function I works but in the main monitor not the touch screen one. I do not know what I am doing wrong.
Fernando Javier you Need to calibrate the monitor. Windows doesn’t know how to correlate the touch function with the monitor screens so it assumes the touch sensor is over the main screen. Go to windows settings and search for “calibrate“. You should see a choice like “calibrate pen and touch monitors”. It will then cycle through each monitor and as you to touch them so it can figure out which touch grid is associated with which monitor. Hope that helps.
Is there a tutorial for this?
This video is mostly to cover the hardware, but several of my other videos to talk about using the Air Manager basil and the pop out GPS windows from X-Plane. Super busy right now but if you can’t find it feel free to write back and I’ll try to help you out
great video
Sure wish the connections were on the back. Going to have to purchase 90 degree adaptors.
Yes but if you mount it on a flat surface the back ports wouldn’t work
@@rbarlow Ha! good point!!
what's the brand of these monitors?
Adam S. Full details in the video...Prechen is the brand but there are several similar monitors available
Thanks Russ, great idea !
Man, those screens have come way down in price. I just ordered on off Amazon for $100.00
Excellent!
👍👍👍👍👍
Do you have to have a touchscreen laptop to work with it
The screen would be plugged into a laptop with USB-C capability ... so basically, it would be an extended monitor connected to your laptop. The software would run on the laptop as there are no brains in the touch-screen monitor (as i understand it)...now granted , im just now trying to figure this all out so i could be out in left field and this could be a total tablet solution with a processor and everything