If you reject take off at high speed, it is better to wait on the runway to allow fire rescue to cool the brakes. Max brake temperature will occur after about 15 minutes. When the brakes are cool, and if the tires are still inflated, you can taxi to the gate. No need to evacuate. I have the impression they went back to the gate, and then the tire fuses did their job deflating the tires. Strange…
The tires did not burst. They deflated when the fuse plugs in the wheels melted. It is a safety feature that keeps them from turning into a bomb caused by excess heat from the brakes overinflating the tires.
All I can say is it's an extremely rare occurrence for Cathay Pacific to have any kind of mechanical issues, been flying this airline for years and have never had an issue, great airline and the service is excellent, and I'll keep flying them in the future.
Why were the slides deployed when they were already back at the gate? Several years ago QF32, the A380 that suffered an uncontained engine failure and landed back in Singapore Changi, the pilot of QF32 did the right thing by not letting his passengers evacuate and leave the plane immediately after touchdown when it came to a stop on the runway and leaking fuel. He insisted on keeping them inside the plane until emergency services had the whole situation under control and stairs are moved into place as they are much safer than the emergency escape slides. No one was injured in that incident thanks to the use of stairs. QF32’s captain knew that some passengers might get injured if the emergency escape slides were used instead of stairs.
The people are very lucky. They had a good flight crew on board. Sometimes people are going to get hurt but at least they’re alive. Could’ve been much worse.
My dad once got injured leaving a plane- he’s a pilot but still suffers back issues from it. I don’t remember if it was 737 or when he flew a320, but they were training evacuating via the over wing exits. Sliding down the flaps of the wing onto the ground, the rubber gym mat they had on the ground slipped forwards when my dad landed on it, meaning he fell on his back onto the tarmac
The Ease Part of the incident is the Injuries were resultant of the Evacuation process not the Moment the Tires got Over heated, This recalls something similar to what happened to *Cathay Pacific flight 780* .
From what I recall from my aviation safety classes, friction burns are common, wrist & ankle strains/sprains from trying to control themselves while sliding down the slide also happen.
It's from hundreds of people quickly trying to escape a metal tube with limited doors. People get trampled, shoved, kicked, they fall etc. That's why evacuations should be a last resort.
All this could have been avoided had they followed RTO after protocol. It is worrying the pilots training and the evacuation training seing it being so chaotic
I find it rather insulting when airlines always resort to the same pointless answer when asked about any given issue, "technical issue". What's wrong with telling the truth? Do they think we're not grown up enough to treat us with honesty?
Why when there is a check list for the rejected takeoff brake cooling period did they continue to taxi back to gate. I believe the flight attendant started the evacuation on their own, not directed by the pilot. Why as you are already at the gate would you start an emergency evac.
The aircraft had aborted the take off and returned to the gate. The fusible plugs had melted and the tires had deflated... exactly as they are designed to do if the brakes get too hot. This is to prevent the tires from exploding and is not unusual after a high speed abort. It was never intended to evacuate by the slides... Unfortunately however there was a miscommunication between the cockpit and cabin crew and the cabin crew initiated the evacuation. It was a mistake.
Pictures of passengers carrying hand luggage after evacuating on emergency slides is alarming!!! They put other passengers lives at risk. The aviation industry needs to introduce a universal policy of confiscation of ALL luggage taken off a plane in an emergency evacuation. This will deter people from doing this. In addition a 5 year ban on air travel for anyone doing this should also be put in place. This will only happen when it is too late & people perish because of this selfish behavior!!
I heard that they would be fitting overhead looker that cant be open in an emergency on some new planes. I think they should be retro fitted to all plane.
Alright, so they aborted and got back to the gate, THEN the tires exploded, prompting the evacuation in case of fire. The tires did not “burst on takeoff.”
i'm thinking of the evacuation is not necessary since it was rejected takeoff and pilot successfully took the aircraft from the runway. Instead, they can initiate control disembarkation.
Did the captains taxi the 777 back to its gate? Its tires were probably not looked after very well where they could've been worn all the way down to the string core? Also could've lack good treading. Very very nice vlog.
Wow what a horrible analysis. "safely return to the gate", yeah right, that's the reason why they totaled the tires in the first place. And the "precautionary" evacuation was also an unnecessary consequence of this. They could have just waited for the firemen on the taxiway and saved 11 passengers from ending up wounded.
Brakes would have become very very hot from rejected take off. The heat or fire from that probably caused the tire fuses to deflate the tires. If the pilots announced the slide evacuation as a precaution and not a direct emergency then id be grabbing my carry on too. Its a backpack with my medicine and passport in it. Not going to take the time to rummage through it, just grab it and go. Who knows when id be able to get it back.
haha the tire is the cause, blame the Bridgestone Tire Manufacturer or maybe the negligence of the Aircraft Mechanics in charge of the Boeing 777 tire, it is not Boeing's fault but the one who maintains it.
They are just like Airbus. if Airbus has a model with no record of Crash (A380) Boeing also has (B787 Dreamliner). Before judging, first find out the causes of the incident.
@@JayOdabala0423 But it just happened on a Boeing, again and again! So go blame the tyre company, blame the ground engineers, blame the maintenance, blame the weather, blame the airport, except Boeing.
@@wangjim5839 That's in the Mechanics, the Mechanics always change the tire of the Airplane, they are the only ones who move it, if the tire comes off, it means negligence by the Mechanics, They didn't fix the Tire Attaching to the plane or if the tire bursts, it's still mechanics because They will maintain the tire before the plane takes off. That B777 has been with the Airline for a long time, which means that the Mechanics have already moved the tires or they have already replaced them with new tires, so they are the last touch. Scoot's Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the one that is missing the tire in Taiwan, that is the model of Boeing that has no record of a crash like the Airbus 380. Even though the Airbus 380 is safe, there are also many incidents, sometimes Engine Failure, sometimes Tire Burst like this.
@@wangjim5839 l am also studying Aircraft Mechanic (BSAMT) a large percentage of Mechanics Eerror in cases like this. unless the Airframe is defective and the plane is still new, of course Boeing is really to blame, especially in the previous case of the B737 Max.
Slightly wt* moment from an outsider (no clue what I am to talking about)- just ask the fire truck to spray water as small flames in the wheels are expected and acceptable according to Airbus’ testing campaign TH-cam video
The wheels have fuse plugs that melt and let the air out. They melt at 176-192c depending on the type. The tires did not actually burst, but they deflated.
@@heidirabenau511jetblue 292 also, tires aren't something aircraft manufacturers can control the likelihood of this happening is the same on cathay a330s
hahaha the tire is the Problem, blame the Bridgestone Tire Manufacturer or maybe the negligence of the Aircraft Mechanics in charge of the Boeing 777 tire, it is not Boeing's fault but the one who maintains it.
They are just like Airbus. if Airbus has a model with no record of Crash (A380) Boeing also has (B787 Dreamliner). Before judging, first find out the causes of the incident.
@damsom what rubbish. I have flown both Boeing and Airbus aircraft. They both have their pro's and con's. Generally speaking I find the brakes on 747's and 777's to be far superior to the brakes on say, the A330/350.
Poorly handled. Per check list, you must reduce taxing something this crew didn't do leading to the bursting of the tires and melting some components. The situation caused a fire leading to an evacuation
If you reject take off at high speed, it is better to wait on the runway to allow fire rescue to cool the brakes. Max brake temperature will occur after about 15 minutes. When the brakes are cool, and if the tires are still inflated, you can taxi to the gate. No need to evacuate.
I have the impression they went back to the gate, and then the tire fuses did their job deflating the tires. Strange…
The tires did not burst. They deflated when the fuse plugs in the wheels melted. It is a safety feature that keeps them from turning into a bomb caused by excess heat from the brakes overinflating the tires.
the safety technology behind these planes are so amazing you think you know all of it but that would only be the start
All I can say is it's an extremely rare occurrence for Cathay Pacific to have any kind of mechanical issues, been flying this airline for years and have never had an issue, great airline and the service is excellent, and I'll keep flying them in the future.
I think CP really stepped up their customer service by taking such good care of their passengers during this incident, especially the injured.
I would be more worried about the pilot trainings and evacuation trainings since it didn't follow protocol after RTO
I’m from Hong Kong. I’m 100% certain local media would have lit Cathay up if they hadn’t at least gave pax a good hotel and a new flight asap.
Why were the slides deployed when they were already back at the gate? Several years ago QF32, the A380 that suffered an uncontained engine failure and landed back in Singapore Changi, the pilot of QF32 did the right thing by not letting his passengers evacuate and leave the plane immediately after touchdown when it came to a stop on the runway and leaking fuel. He insisted on keeping them inside the plane until emergency services had the whole situation under control and stairs are moved into place as they are much safer than the emergency escape slides. No one was injured in that incident thanks to the use of stairs. QF32’s captain knew that some passengers might get injured if the emergency escape slides were used instead of stairs.
The tires burst at the gate, so they evacuated for fear of a fire starting. This video is super confusing.
The people are very lucky. They had a good flight crew on board. Sometimes people are going to get hurt but at least they’re alive. Could’ve been much worse.
Rather surprised at the number of slide injuries.
No emergency evacuations for me but I've done the 'dunker" at Yeovilton.
My dad once got injured leaving a plane- he’s a pilot but still suffers back issues from it.
I don’t remember if it was 737 or when he flew a320, but they were training evacuating via the over wing exits. Sliding down the flaps of the wing onto the ground, the rubber gym mat they had on the ground slipped forwards when my dad landed on it, meaning he fell on his back onto the tarmac
That's a big ouch! Surprised he didnt break his back!
The Ease Part of the incident is the Injuries were resultant of the Evacuation process not the Moment the Tires got Over heated, This recalls something similar to what happened to *Cathay Pacific flight 780* .
I live in HK and I was shocked when I saw the the photos of peopel grabbing their Carry-on!
It would be interesting to know more about injuries incurred on slides. Do people collide with each other or is due to something else? 🛩
From what I recall from my aviation safety classes, friction burns are common, wrist & ankle strains/sprains from trying to control themselves while sliding down the slide also happen.
It's from hundreds of people quickly trying to escape a metal tube with limited doors. People get trampled, shoved, kicked, they fall etc. That's why evacuations should be a last resort.
All this could have been avoided had they followed RTO after protocol. It is worrying the pilots training and the evacuation training seing it being so chaotic
Some people brought their luggage with them, which is always the leading cause of injuries in evacuations
With the amount of carry-ons seen, I can see why people got hurt.
FYI your thumbnail is missing a wing...
Wishing everyone a swift recovery!
I am wondering if there could be changes (training or a different coating on the slides) that would make it safer for passengers.
Best to wear clothes that don’t leave exposed skin. I’m usually cold on planes anyway
Hello! I echo the other comments here: how did passengers sustain injuries while on the slide?
Friction burns are common of bare skin touches the slide
@@somethingsomething404 Thanks!
I find it rather insulting when airlines always resort to the same pointless answer when asked about any given issue, "technical issue". What's wrong with telling the truth? Do they think we're not grown up enough to treat us with honesty?
Because it often opens then to litigation.
@@EdOeuna Same old story then. Fear of losing money. I should have known.
Not on the road surface there was something which caused fire due friction on running process?
The crew members handled the situation very well. Kudos to all Cathay Pacific crew. :-) ❤❤❤
Very strange outcome here. Not the sort of PR that Cathay needs right now.
Was there an engine failure, fire, wind shear, or any anomaly that would prevent it from flying? Then continue.
Why when there is a check list for the rejected takeoff brake cooling period did they continue to taxi back to gate. I believe the flight attendant started the evacuation on their own, not directed by the pilot. Why as you are already at the gate would you start an emergency evac.
Seriously one of the worst places in the internet to get aviation news, and that's saying something
The aircraft had aborted the take off and returned to the gate. The fusible plugs had melted and the tires had deflated... exactly as they are designed to do if the brakes get too hot. This is to prevent the tires from exploding and is not unusual after a high speed abort.
It was never intended to evacuate by the slides... Unfortunately however there was a miscommunication between the cockpit and cabin crew and the cabin crew initiated the evacuation. It was a mistake.
Pictures of passengers carrying hand luggage after evacuating on emergency slides is alarming!!!
They put other passengers lives at risk.
The aviation industry needs to introduce a universal policy of confiscation of ALL luggage taken off a plane in an emergency evacuation.
This will deter people from doing this.
In addition a 5 year ban on air travel for anyone doing this should also be put in place.
This will only happen when it is too late & people perish because of this selfish behavior!!
People did the same in EK521 where they were more interested in their hand bags than evacuating
I heard that they would be fitting overhead looker that cant be open in an emergency on some new planes. I think they should be retro fitted to all plane.
It seems there was shaking which holds the tires
the incidents were exactly 13 years apart what a coincidence
Wait… so the tires burst before the rejection? This is very confusing.
To the Internet.
Alright, so they aborted and got back to the gate, THEN the tires exploded, prompting the evacuation in case of fire.
The tires did not “burst on takeoff.”
@@ddthompson42 They just had to let one more American on the plane.
i'm thinking of the evacuation is not necessary since it was rejected takeoff and pilot successfully took the aircraft from the runway. Instead, they can initiate control disembarkation.
Did the captains taxi the 777 back to its gate? Its tires were probably not looked after very well where they could've been worn all the way down to the string core? Also could've lack good treading. Very very nice vlog.
Cathay Pacific can't seem to be out of the news recently...
I find it disgusting that some passengers are taking their baggage down the evacuation slides.
I haven't been evacuating the aircraft using an evacuation slide.
Thank GOD NO DEAD AMEN 🙏🏼 AND AMEN 🙏🏼
Thanks, let's not forget landing and takeoff it's the most risky thing on planes, im glad nothing mayor happens, thumbs up for pilots.
Wow what a horrible analysis. "safely return to the gate", yeah right, that's the reason why they totaled the tires in the first place. And the "precautionary" evacuation was also an unnecessary consequence of this. They could have just waited for the firemen on the taxiway and saved 11 passengers from ending up wounded.
Brakes would have become very very hot from rejected take off. The heat or fire from that probably caused the tire fuses to deflate the tires. If the pilots announced the slide evacuation as a precaution and not a direct emergency then id be grabbing my carry on too. Its a backpack with my medicine and passport in it. Not going to take the time to rummage through it, just grab it and go. Who knows when id be able to get it back.
Boeing aircraft again! Earlier it was a Scoot airline last month, and now a Cathy Pacific airline!
haha the tire is the cause, blame the Bridgestone Tire Manufacturer or maybe the negligence of the Aircraft Mechanics in charge of the Boeing 777 tire, it is not Boeing's fault but the one who maintains it.
They are just like Airbus. if Airbus has a model with no record of Crash (A380) Boeing also has (B787 Dreamliner). Before judging, first find out the causes of the incident.
@@JayOdabala0423 But it just happened on a Boeing, again and again! So go blame the tyre company, blame the ground engineers, blame the maintenance, blame the weather, blame the airport, except Boeing.
@@wangjim5839 That's in the Mechanics, the Mechanics always change the tire of the Airplane, they are the only ones who move it, if the tire comes off, it means negligence by the Mechanics, They didn't fix the Tire Attaching to the plane or if the tire bursts, it's still mechanics because They will maintain the tire before the plane takes off. That B777 has been with the Airline for a long time, which means that the Mechanics have already moved the tires or they have already replaced them with new tires, so they are the last touch. Scoot's Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the one that is missing the tire in Taiwan, that is the model of Boeing that has no record of a crash like the Airbus 380. Even though the Airbus 380 is safe, there are also many incidents, sometimes Engine Failure, sometimes Tire Burst like this.
@@wangjim5839 l am also studying Aircraft Mechanic (BSAMT) a large percentage of Mechanics Eerror in cases like this. unless the Airframe is defective and the plane is still new, of course Boeing is really to blame, especially in the previous case of the B737 Max.
That's some awful photoshopping in the thumbnails lads!
I only ever used emergency ‼️ evacuation slides 🛝 on an aircraft ✈️ in a dream 🛌 but, thankfully 😅 never 👎 in real life.
Slightly wt* moment from an outsider (no clue what I am to talking about)- just ask the fire truck to spray water as small flames in the wheels are expected and acceptable according to Airbus’ testing campaign TH-cam video
Pilots land a plane with no engine power only to have passengers injur themselves climbing over each other in a attempt to get out first (I imagine).
Pilots need to go back to class or read manual on what follows emergency braking! You don’t return to gate!
They need to take more attention ⛔️ to aircraft’s before they go up GOD SAKE AMEN 🙏🏼
Burst tires can happen from overloading or been so worn they need replacing
The wheels have fuse plugs that melt and let the air out. They melt at 176-192c depending on the type. The tires did not actually burst, but they deflated.
If there were a total of 12 tires that burst I wonder if they burst because of the heat from breaking or striking something on the runway?
They burst at the gate, likely from heat.
They didn't burst. There is a fusible plug in them designed to deflate the tire if it gets too hot. It is a safety feature of most aircraft wheels.
first!!!!! PLANE!!!!!!!
YAAAAAAY!!!!!! 😂
Why Always Boeing?
I dont honestly know, maybe they are just cursed or something
It's not always Boeing by a longshot. Simple flying can't cover everything. Remember, their goal is clicks and views too.
@@andrewdrone real also thanks for explaining
because boeing is horrible aircraft manufacturer
@@damsom1431 lol what kool-aid is Airbus PR dept feeding you?
First
nope I was first!
@rhodasevillino532 🥈 👍🏼
Cathay Pacific, the worst airline in the world.
why people continue to use boeing aircraft? airbus aircraft superior in every way, this incident never happen
Never heard of Airbus twisted landing gear on the A320?
@@heidirabenau511jetblue 292
also, tires aren't something aircraft manufacturers can control
the likelihood of this happening is the same on cathay a330s
hahaha the tire is the Problem, blame the Bridgestone Tire Manufacturer or maybe the negligence of the Aircraft Mechanics in charge of the Boeing 777 tire, it is not Boeing's fault but the one who maintains it.
They are just like Airbus. if Airbus has a model with no record of Crash (A380) Boeing also has (B787 Dreamliner). Before judging, first find out the causes of the incident.
@damsom what rubbish. I have flown both Boeing and Airbus aircraft. They both have their pro's and con's. Generally speaking I find the brakes on 747's and 777's to be far superior to the brakes on say, the A330/350.
Poorly handled. Per check list, you must reduce taxing something this crew didn't do leading to the bursting of the tires and melting some components. The situation caused a fire leading to an evacuation