Debate: Colin Kaepernick
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- Students of Shawnee Mission East High School sat down on Thursday, September 22nd and discussed NFL Quarterback Colin Kaepernick. Specifically, his decision to kneel during the national anthem.
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I would lose my mind being a minority in this school
Abiotic deadass
I was a minority in my last school and it was wayyyy more yeehaw than this one , and a lot of people got offended over my views, and the fact that I made better points than they did cause they’re so stuck in the past and I always made “moving forward “ points if that makes sense
I pray for you
How come?
I unfortunately went to a school like this and did lose my mind, I was the only Arab Muslim in my whole entire 500 student grade lmao. I can’t express how much I hated it there, most of my friends did not go to my school lmao. I’m in college now and I go to one of the most diverse universities in the country now (University of Illinois at Chicago) and I swear it’s such a refreshing relief.
And just when I thought Christopher couldn't be more of a legend, he shows up wearing the Captain America T-shirt.
Cezara B His points are trash in this case.
Big Man how exactly?
Sir G. BLM is unironically not a great movement. I supported him in the confederate flag videos but not in this one.
Big Man BLM isn’t actually too bad of a movement. Thousands of marches/demonstrations and only a handful have had any violence. And of those handful, white nationalist groups also participated.
@@chrishansen8119 it's a larger proportion of members that are violent or trying to shut down free speech than alot of other groups. I think it dulls their message and mitigates alot if the good they do.
5:43 "if he doesn't like it then he can just leave"
*He's acting like leaving America is just like trying to go to a different restaurant to eat*
Also, this is Shawnee Mission East in Kansas City. I went to North. Yes a large of the kids in that area actually think like that
@@I_love_cows657 The U.S. makes it illegal to leave it without paying exorbitant fees. That's not including how expensive and difficult it is to move out of the state, let alone the country. Also, people shouldn't have to leave their home to want it to be better- its a stupid argument. If that were the case, nowhere would get better for anyone ever
@@I_love_cows657 oh okay. Then since people are fighting to be equal in this country and you don't like it why don't you go ahead and go somewhere else to another country? I'm sure Canada would love to have you
@@cannibaliowa nah don't even waste your time tryna reason with that kid. If it's so easy to leave he can do it himself. He can just escape to Canada
And yet they get mad when immigrants just leave their country to come over to American like dude MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
It’s as if wanting your own country to improve and do better for all of its citizens is a bad thing 🙄
Watch the confederate flag one after this one. The irony is hilarious.
@@Freaqie1 ooh someone’s annoyed
@@Freaqie1 damn bro this is hilarious
lmfao sameee
@@Freaqie1 shut down
White Supremists racists, living in a tiny little box, fearful and hateful of non whites and non Christian, fully believing America is a White Christian English Speaking Country, not remembering we are All immigrants with hundreds of cultures, religions but Rich White Republicans want and will lie and kill for White Superiority. You can't peaceful protest in a football game, and you should leave and not protest?! Racists in that room.
Ain’t these the dudes who complained about how it’s their first amendment right to fly the confederate flag now complaining about someone using their first amendment
Logan Jeffery andrew most were saying he should and is allowed to stand, but they disagree with the way he’s doing it.
LMFAO
LMAO. There are alot of pot heads in that school. I agree with Logan and Ramy. I know why Marqui is laughing.
When i saw that italian american man my age getting beat with clubs in atlantic city on national TV, that was the last draw for me. There is only so many times a group of people can fuck up.
right...
I hate when people say, “if you don’t like it, just leave” NOOOOOO. We live in a democracy. If we don’t like something we have the right to change it.
E Wol I can do whatever the FUCK I want. “Free country”
@@vladimirkhazinski3725 why are you getting so mad if I burnt a pride flag I guarentee you wouldnt give af
@@vladimirkhazinski3725 you just proved your hypocracy If it doesnt stand for what you believe in then you dont give af about it so what if someone doesn't agree with the current values of the us then in your own logic you should gladly burn it
@@vladimirkhazinski3725 I thought about it a little more and I kind of agree with you but still its everyone's right to burn the flag
@@vladimirkhazinski3725 I don't agree with your Statement that the country would be better off. If everyone that didn't like the country just left we wouldn't be as developed as we are today. This country is not perfect, no country is. I think it's very closed minded to believe that people should leave because who would make this country better? This country is so successful because if there is an issue the people can change it or correct it. You can't deny that there are issues. Instead of leaving why not encourage people to make this country a place you would want to stay and live?
They need to bring this whole squad back and have this debate now
YESSSSUH.
Wait why? What happened?
@@anoldflame5595 blm movement?...
@@st4bexpert oh yeah. That thing.
@@anoldflame5595 "that thing"?
stuff like this makes me so glad i go to a diverse school😭
Fr
Hell yea I'd fight every single one of the deluded mfs😭
I went to a white school for one year. Felt so outta place the entire time lmfao easily the most uncomfortable school year I had. Was just a complete culture shock. It was so weird sitting in a class with maybe three or four other non white kids and even then, they grew up surrounded by white ppl unlike me. hard to relate to other kids and shit when the stuff they talk about is a life u never even seen.
Went to sleep every night and woke up every day with major anxiety lmaooo
Fr
@@syedabood2478 it’s crazy because I went to a mainly African American school & we openly accept white people, Asians, & Hispanics
these kids aren’t offended by the confederate flag but are offended that colin kneeled to the national anthem? okay.
EXACTLY
Exactly!!! Like advocating freedom of speech to express yourself there in that video with an oppressive symbol is allowed, agreeable, and understandable, but not for this instance discussed in this video?
You can hide behind an old flag and the support that you know you'd get from other like-minded alongside you, but what Colin Kaepernick did was brave because it was new and highly relevant. And though being widely supported wasn't guaranteed, he didn't let this stop him from expressing his truths and using this as a platform to create space for a new discussion. "Democracy is hypocrisy (Malcolm X)." Still true to this day. The difference between this video from the one about the confederate flag is that the students advocating for it don't have a strong connection or belief in it, but the kneeling to Kaepernick had meant so much more to him, making it that much more powerful.
th-cam.com/video/qNfAFfu6VD0/w-d-xo.html (quick 1 minute video if you don't understand the quote)
Bruh noones saying that he shouldnt be allowed to do it, they say that he shouldnt do it. Didnt hear anyone calling for him to get reprocossions
Thats very true Ramah Fejieh
Confedorate flag - racism, this protest - anti-racism
I need the Christopher and Drake dynamic back. Only OG's know
Stella Rurema lol
bruh fr
Exactly
drake was a dumbass
LETSFUCKONTHEMOON yep
I wish the black men in the class spoke up. I would’ve liked to hear their point of view.
Agree
They NEVER do which is why the black community is so poor.
9 times outta 10 they are not due to the facts that they wanna be cool with them
Probably worried about repercussions?
Americans are so obsessive with their patriotism as a European it’s actually very weird
What part of Europe?
its so embarrassing sometimes but its the education system. we were taught that america is the best country and how EVERYONE wants to come here. that where it comes from
@@dani-hb9yp PLEASE 💀✋ all the schools I went to just plays music then do there announcements, but when I transferred in 2020, the current school I am enrolled still do the Pledge of Allegiance and it’s surprising to me that schools still do it to this day
@@dani-hb9yp SAME💀💀💀
That’s why we always have to bail you people out of every conflict. You can bet your ancestors didn’t think it was weird.. they were very grateful for our patriotism.
did anyone else come for christopher then get sad bc he wasnt talking
Sophia Rubino did you watch the video?!
Who’s Christopher
25:00
Isaiah Walsh a fucking LEGEND
Kyra Robinson pretty sure they were seniors in the confederate debate and this debate is a year later. they already graduated
I love the young lady in the braids!!!! She wasn’t afraid to speak UP AND OUT!!!
Good job to my boy Christopher!!!
@Fjj veterans fought for our right to be able to protest against america, it's not disrespecting them at all. if people aren't allowed to speak their mind fully, even if it is critical of the u.s, why have a free country? veterans fought for us to speak our minds and doing that is not disrespectful
@Fjj "your people"? Don't say that it sounds derogatory and belittling and you know it. Be respectful and say African American or just American because you'll don't call yourself European American. Also, American patriotism started slavery in the first place... what do you want us to say, "thank you." America has a lot to work on especially with racial issues.
Fjj the south is apart of america and american culture. Also slavery was all over America and American Territories starting with the 13 colonies when America was still under British rule.
@Fjj I dont know why you keep arguing that this form of protest disrespects the military and its veterans. Kaepernick got a lot of support from military personnel not because they agreed with his messages necessarily, but because they respect his right to protest. In fact, as others have pointed out, the kneeling element was a suggestion by a veteran, since taking a knee is something that is done in the military.
You've also tried to separate history for some reason as if slavery, segregation, and the overall bigotry experienced by black Americans is somehow the fault of the south. America is one country with one history - you don't see Germany not taking responsibility for nazis or trying to argue that that was just Hitler and not Germany itself. You're allowed to love the US and be patriotic, but people who recognize an issue within a country and try to bring attention to it and change it are just as patriotic and you should not fault them for their actions.
The constitution may have been written over 300 years ago, but its only been in the last 50 years that black people have seen some sort of equality in America. And even then, it hasn't been great. So just because he's protesting and people are agreeing with it does not make them ungrateful or unAmerican or automatically mean that they don't recognize the sacrifices of the military
I serve in the United States Army.
It's your right to sit, kneel, or stand during the national anthem. I will always stand because I serve this country, but I don't care if you sit kneel or stand.
Kneeling is a peaceful protest, it doesn't hurt anyone or anybody except people's feelings.
I love this country to death but by no means it's perfect. My only issue is I think each and everyday we become more and more divided.
HOO-AHH! ✊
I think it's only the "patriots" (conservatives or just racist people) who think kneeling during the national anthem is disgraceful even tho it's one of our rights.
Same. 10 years 2 tours like I don't get the outrage
@@Griffith307 But I wouldn't call them patriots. I'm a patriot, so I know our rights. And it's Kaepernick's Constitutional right to protest in this way.
@@Griffith307 it’s disrespectful, but yeah it definitely is a right.
As a non-American I really don't understand the obsession over the national anthem... Most people in my country don't even know the words to ours
Americans have much more pride in their country than most other nationalities have with their country.
@Caeli11 As an American I really don’t get the obsession either.
@Lord Gilbert eh honestly probably not the worst thing for americans to not show pride in our country built upon on racist and a corrupt system
@@madiserket2 Theres nothing wrong with showing pride with your country, off topic but How I feel about this video Is Veterans fought and Died for this anthem and I feel it is very important as someone who knows many vietnam vets and soldiers in my family
Bc we fought for our country and the song is honoring all the lives that died fighting for it.
Everyone is shouting out Christopher but aaayyeee SHOUTOUT TO THE YOUNG LADY IN BRAIDS!! YOU SPOKE WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD. PROUD OF YOU SIS!!!
Yessssss!!! And she not afraid to speak her peace in a room full of WHITE KIDS! And their subtle racism is scary... she was like IM HERE BLACK AND PROUD!!! I love it!!!!
SLAY SHAY subtle racism? Dumbass, racism in a class setting is rare as fuck.
She was also rlly involved in the flag debate she went off
Slay Shay Beauty can you fucking imagine if someone said this same thing about those BLACK KIDS and their subtle racism!
_Caden_ Yea I’m so sorry but That’s not racism. When a black person walks into a store and feels unwelcome and is treated worse than others than that is racism. When a white person walks into a black owned business and doesn’t feel welcome, well tbh I don’t really care bc they have every right too. A white person being treated unfairly due to race is veryyy unlikely and when you experience that then I’m glad for you because you get to experience what it’s like to be African American every single day.
Some of these kids were the same ones defending the Confederate flag saying, "Well, it's my first amendment right to fly it and if people get offended by it, then so be it." yet they're the ones saying kneeling during the National Anthem is offensive and should not be tolerated. Gotta acknowledge your own hypocrisy y'all.
Well give them a little break they are young still and are learning. This isn’t supposed to be negative and insulting these are people’s opinions.
That is the typical response from any white Southerner or sympathizer. No surprise there.
dourtan douar
I’m not sympathetic or a white southerner but you need to understand these are people’s opinions and they are still young and haven’t experienced a lot of life yet so don’t expect them to be rational.
It was offensive because they were actively working for and representing the nfl. They didn’t get permission from the nfl so that’s why it shouldn’t be tolerated. If they hadn’t been *actively* representing the company they work for however, it’s their right to kneel if they want.
I haven't seen the same kids saying he doesn't have the right.
“if black people dont like racism in america, well, like, they can just leave”
bro this shit had me heated
literally like what??
People that say this are the same people that tell Mexicans to go back to their country
@@3racha_ckiisses349 they stole our land but tell us to go back to where we came from😑
This guy probably isn’t even from America. It’s just politics playing the race card against people for power. We need propaganda that we love each other not that we hate each other. Call your neighbor a racist, then see if he comes over for dinner. We are a family
man i think chris has a pencil for every outfit
He’s a smart fellow
Came to see Christopher. Was not disappointed. Stan him.
Where is he
same
@@yeks1491
25:25
hip
Hard to believe, as a 34 year old, that these kids aren’t all in support of black lives matter. I would believe this if it was 2004 but now it’s hard to see these teenagers who are clearly echoing their parents right wing beliefs. Wtf
I love how Christopher is finally getting the respect he deserves in this video. All of those laughs turned into claps
yessir
Put some respect on his name
@Voltaire Amadeus why not
@Voltaire Amadeus he makes completely valid points that make sense. You’re just too fuckin dumb to realize that.
@Vader Can you give any valid points on why his points are retarded?
25:35 The King makes his entrance!
I was like where's my mans at??? they need to start rolling out red carpets when he steps in😭
@@vgueafrica LMAOAOOA deadass
Thank you cause that's why I'm here!!😂
The Real Captain America!
yesss
not the last guy being like “we can’t get rid of racism just yet😫”
i mean hes right. its not racist its the truthe. racism has been and will most likey be a thing for a very long time. we havent lived in peace but we live in the most peacful time. we are teaching more and more about the harm, disgust, and overall wrong racism is
@@svaucyi Exactly. As long as there are racist parents teaching their kids from generation to generation, it's still going to take time for racism to be completely gone. It's wrong but it's being taught by other racist people.
@@svaucyi yeah and hes tryna make an excuse and say that we should give up
@@svaucyi Change can be as fast as we make it and I don't know why people think we need to leisurely glide past racism as a society... starting tomorrow or "with the next generation" coming from a kid in this generation.
@@svaucyi of course racism isn't going to go away in a heartbeat. but whats wrong with actively trying to bring awareness and change NOW? just because it makes you uncomfortable to talk about doesn't mean we should just put it off to the side. get used to being uncomfortable when it comes to bringing change
Christopher Justice is a shining star to me. This kid does his research and maintains his fact-based analysis
Me Xavier literally as soon as this video started I was like where’s Christopher?
@@gbritto98 Ha! Me too!!!!
me too
You mean an idiot? I agree
is he in here?
EDIT: 25:29,51:15
Some of these kids should start off by saying "I'm openly racist"
Especially that guy who said he should just leave
TAEISROOD saying someone should leave because they don’t like identifying with that country is not racist in any way. Everyone would say that no matter the race.
These guys have no clue what the definition of racism is, I swear.
E just cause you don’t like something that’s happening in your country right now and you protest it doesn’t mean you don’t identify with the country at all. Of course it’s racist to say he should leave idiot.
@@afrokid3890 When was race mentioned once at all in his saying that they should leave. Quote it please, 'idiot'.
@@afrokid3890 Protesting the pledge is never the same thing as protesting an issue btw. I don't think you know the significance of the kneeling.
Whose interpretation it is saying kneeling is disrespectful. Disrespectful is when you turn your back against the flag and anthem. You kneel when you are proposing, you kneel to face your king, you get down on both knee to pray. Kneeling is a gesture of humbleness and submission. What Colin did to me signify "I respect you but I can't bring myself to stand when my brothers and sister being discriminate, killed and socially profiled."
Well stated! 👏🏽
YES SUH!!! This is the best argument here!
The majority of black people are being killed by other black people. So that’s straight bs
I love it
I’d love to see a debate on what took place at the Capitol earlier this year.
Absolutely!
And the riots as a comparison
It was a bunch of morons. As 99 percent of America will tell you.
When the kid said “if he doesn’t like it then he can just leave” and the kid behind him put his head on the desk
I felt that
aska w. I literally was like “ that idiot is trying to create next North Korea 2.0”. Like what the actual fuck, veterans fought to give people rights and now he’s saying that when people EXERCISE those rights they should just leave? You know what that is? That’s a DICTATORSHIP. Jesus Christ, I really don’t know what to say. If THIS is the kind of person representing us teens, it’s no wonder every adult thinks we’re all immature.
@@ilhanyusuf2160 America fight for drugs, oil, guns and territories....
Exactly but his ass will be the first one to tell an immigrant to stay in their country and fix it
Tribe Of Warriors I don’t understand the significance.
@@ilhanyusuf2160 He gave his opinion, that if you don't like it leave.
Shout out to the young black queen with the braids for speaking up. She's the female version of Chris in this video.
It's so disturbing that all these young people had no issue with flying a flag that represents traitors and and losers...but has an issue with a man respectfully using his first amendment rights.
Fjj Of course people are aware of men AND women across seas fighting for our rights. But you have to know that it’s their first amendment right to protests. Technically protesters aren’t protesting veterans. They are protesting the systemic racism of the country. The injustices in this country.
@Fjj
Kaepernick was advised by a teammate who was a former member of the armed forces that he should kneel instead of sit, he's respecting the troops and the 1st amendment and so is Jasmine.
Simply put it, you're just trying to shut her up with the old, "'Murica, troops, good men..." bullshit so she'll feel guilty for saying anything that criticizes any part of the US.
Luke D very little evidence that he wasn’t opportunistic for what he did.
@@muslimchip5380
What does that even mean? MLK anf other civil rights leaders used public marches and protests to bring awareness to segregation and various other forms of discrimination.
Gay Rights groups used the Stonewall riots to fight for gas rights.
Several individuals and groups have used chances such as those to get a platform to bring greater awareness and support to their cause.
Hell, Hong Kong protestors and people who wanted Hong Kong independence and democracy used the Extradition bill to vying support to such causes. Your point?
I was waiting for sum black men in the class to chime in!!!..I wanted to hear from them!!
“if he doesn’t like it, then leave.”
DUDE that doesn’t solve the issue
Your pfp is how I've been feeling throughout this entire vid lol
But whats his existing issue though
It 100% solves the issue. People complain about living as a minority in a white society. Yet they don't talk about how privileged they truly are living in such a society.
“He should do it a different way”
Yeah, POC hear that all of the time.
“It just divides us”
Translation: this makes me uncomfortable and I want POC to stop making me aware of what we’re doing to them.
when this teacher went home he said damn a lot my students are dumb asf
Lmaoh 😀😃😄😁😆😅😂🤣🤭
No a lot of these kids are very well worded for their age and clearly well educated. Especially Christopher.
LeftRightLeft They might be all that but for this topic no
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
he’s like i have a couple smart students, and 1 educated student, christopher 😀
PEOPLE ARE SO UNCOMFORTABLE WITH PROTESTS BUT NOT WITH PEOPLE BEING MURDERED
That's just false some are uncomfortable about both or neither as well.
@@undebunker8381 oh my, honey. obviously not everybody. but i did say people not *everybody*. so it's not false at all.
@@ezgi8256 Yeah that's true, I over reacted. But I haven't seen any evidence that someone there was anymore comfortable with murder than protesting... but I'm sure there is some lunatic out in the world that thinks, yeah "murder ok, but protest bad".
No one there was okay with murder. I think your argument was a straw-man just like mine was.
Undebunker If this is referring to current events, I’ve seen lots of people saying George Floyd’s death was deserved and the protests are terrible. It’s a disgusting world we live in where people will care more about corporations than lives.
Exactly
What Kaepernick brought to light is that we care more about a flag, a song and ourselves than our fellow living beings.
Thank you.
What he brought to light is how easily controlled he is by his woman.
@@luigigonzales992 How?? His protest was about the oppression we still face in America. Not about a woman
What he brought to mind is how easily a celebrity like himself can be bought by globalist powers who want America dead.
@@danielleconnor6575 He wasn’t protesting until his anti-American girlfriend told him to do so. She has jihadist ties.
the attitudes towards “being offended” or the “first amendment rights” are completely different between this video and the confederate flag video from some people.
The confederate flag debate they were all "I have the right to fly it, I don't care if you're offended"
But this Colin Kaepernick debate he's wrong and should leave the U.S? But yet that's his first amendment right to do so just like it was there's to fly the flag.... 😑
I don't see your point
If you don't see her point then you are dumb!
Wyatt Nelsen wow lol
hint* hint*... excercising the 1st amendment right
Good point, yet most people tend to line up on the same side, either pro flying the flag and anti Kaepernick, or anti flag and pro Kaepernick. Many people don't respect others viewpoints, just the one they champion.
"People died so we can get to where we are". Does this young man know that black people also fought for our freedom.
More died fighting for slavery
People KILLED to be were we are, not are being killed or have been killed we do not have a status of victim we've been the oppressor since day 1
@@xXBrianBelloxX they don't brah its all about taking ressources, oil and creating chaos my brother was in Irak and he told me that America was the problem not the solution, a wolf dressed as a 🐏. Look at the situation of Syria now, Libya and what not. Do u really think that we went down there to help em? Just be smart and think for a second.
@Fin00 I'd like to see some stats to back that claim up
Do you know when we say "people died so we can get to where we are" that implies to all races. And yes many black soldiers gave everything they had for us to get here BUT that also implies to all races including white people.
This debate was so much more substantive and civil and well reasoned than the Confederate Flag debate, and I think that's primarily because it wasn't hijacked by smug bigots hiding behind the guise of "free speech" and "heritage." Every kid tried their best to bring a sound point to the table and there was a lot of actual listening going on.
Actually it was a veteran that noticed that Colin was sitting down during the national anthem he spoke to him and told him that kneeling would be better.
Christopher is a king that's all I can say.
Christopher is a dumbass
George McClellan I agree
Christopher is the best person in there!! People who hate are just inferior that's all😂🤦🏽♀️
elisa gurnia you cant argue with these people, they get upset over peaceful protests and defend a flag that a bunch of enemies of the US flew.
@@joshholmes4731 if u deny facts I think ur the dumb one.....
Christopher needs to become a Supreme Court judge. He is worthy and a great person.
@パンダsir asap sponge They never will be if we are hoping to not live in an authoritarian regime.
Kevin
Christopher is a young idealist that doesn't truly understand freedom of speech. If he became a Supreme Court judge then the USA would be one step closer to losing its freedoms under the disguise of (false) virtue.
FLYING DREAM PRODUCTIONS big facts
Troy Lemieux how come you disagree?
Troy Lemieux thank you, it’s ridiculous
"If he doesn't like it here then he can just leave" my god the ignorance of some people never seizes to amaze me. And the kid right behind him sitting there nodding his head agreeing with him😭😭
And the other behind him was laughing lol.
I really wish that some of the black kids had more input, as I feel all of these white knights are just speaking for everyone.
What do you think would happen if they spoke up?
There's a small percentage of minorities at that school the teacher even admitted to that
@@Goldenxbih you would hear an opinion from the people being affected most. Shit,, if they dont speak shit aint changing
I remember when I was in school I was afraid to talk about issues I faced as a black person because I didn't want to have white people hate me. I definitely dont feel that way now but it's how I felt as a teen.
@@rs-op8bb Me too. It’s very very traumatic and haunting.
I’m 19 and still very afraid. I’m an African girl who grew up and lives in Germany, Europe. You’re not the only one. I hope there will a time, where we will be fearless.
There are two quotes which I like and which may be a helpful reminder for you:
„Carry yourself with the confidence of a mediocre white man“
„ If you are silent about your pain, they’ll kill you and say you enjoyed it.“ - Zora Neale Hurston
Sending you positive vibes & stay blessed✨
Confederate Flag video: Too bad if your offended.
Kneeling Protest video: I'm offended by that.
The hypocrisy is unreal.
Pretty sure this was an almost completely different group than the one that was in that video. But ok
Kansas is very racist lol it's right next to Arkansas and Oklahoma. I'm not surprised by the very apparent racism.
@@King-zx4qr naw there was alot from the same class
just saw that video their parents are to blame for they're hate
@@LORDGURIU What hate?
When he said “if u don’t like it then leave” that’s basically saying we have to be ok with racism. Idk .. that comment made me mad.. like I am a citizen I shouldn’t have to leave where I’m from because people can’t accept my blackness. like wtf
The phrase has nothing to do with racism. It has everything to do with realism. If you do not like somewhere, move somewhere that suits you.I was told this by members of the same race and guess what-I moved!
@@twistednerve74 It is a ridiculous concept to assume that all people are in the position to suddenly move, especially out of their country. Many people are locked in by their careers or their poverty or any other number of restrictions, and in the case of leaving a country, it is insane to assume that any person would simply want to abandon the life they have built.
twistednerve74 so every time change is needed and people recognize it then they should leave right, if people had that mainstream there would never been a Civil Rights movement
twistednerve74 That’s not realistic though because an overwhelming majority of African Americans and Indians are in poverty. Why would Indians move if this is there true home?
Nobody cares about us your blackness. You want people to care for the attention. Grow up. You live in one of the most privileged countries in the world. Stop acting like you’re struggling.
For the kids who were saying that the national anthem is the one thing that “unifies” us, was there ever unity if there was a huge amount of oppression?
Christopher better be a professor now lol
Chris had on the Anonymous shirt in the Confederate flag debate, and he has the Captain America shirt on in this Kaepernick debate. Chris is the real MVP.
1 7 you so personally attacked 😭commenting on both vids stop crying already get a life
1 7 You are the definition of a *Idiot*
xavier says the dumbass who doesn’t understand grammar.
Яee stick to roblox lmfao
chris is my guy fr
Honestly the African American girl is definitely the most educated on this topic.
Where is she today
@@jamesashby4197 I have no idea
Gee i wUNDER wHy______???
And as should be🙄🤷🏾♀️😒
@@lizkent7514 my thoughts exactly...! Lmao
I find it so confusing how in the first debate they advocated for freedom of speech pertaining towards the confederate flag but now in correlation with Kapernick kneeling it’s the other way around
Came to see Christopher!!
i'm getting anxiety being a minority and watching this. I feel so bad for all the non-whites at this school.
True
As a non white person, I don’t understand why you would feel bad for the students of color.
This school seems to offer students a chance to have these types of conversation. All these students have the ability to articulate their opinions in a very calm and intelligent way.
I wish I had this class when I was in high school.
Debbie Martin I do understand where you are coming from and you do make a valid point. It is great that these kids can have these conversations. What a meant when I said I felt bad was that it must be frustrating. Both you and I know that the kneeling protest has nothing to do with the flag and our troops. And so do all non whites who have experienced any sort of discrimination. So when people are ignorant to that I’m sure it frustrates you just as much as me. Because then the whole point of the protest gets nullified under a different conversation. That’s what I meant. Also, thanks for not just throwing curse words at me as most people in the comments tend to do.
@Blasphy B Ok low iq ^
@Blasphy B What an unamerican view for you to take. perhaps you'd be more comfortable in Russia?
“you can’t protest this country” isn’t flying a confederate flag protesting the country too?
Losers in 1865, losers in 2020.
It depends on the motive to fly the flag. Some just like the look. Others are proud to be from the south buy still very much love the USA.
I don't have a Confederate flag but a neighbor does. Another neighbor has a rainbow flag. They are all friends. Black white and hispanic all meet on my front porch for my bbq and sweet tea. The Duke boys had a car with the flag painted on the roof. They were not protesting the USA. In the show there love for the USA was on display often.
@@bobbywise2313 LOL I’m going to put on my swastika shirt because I just like the aesthetic.
The story about your neighbors is heartwarming af though, ngl.
@@taylorthedestroyer9581 That's cool. I have no issue with what anyone wears. It's a free country if you like the swastika than more power to you. You can still have bbq at my place.
I judge by content of character not the clothes you have on or the flag you fly.
Having said that out of respect I fly no flags and wear plain clothes because I hope to offend no one. I realize that just because I don't find things offensive so might.
I've never seen or heard anyone use a Confederate Flag to "protest" the country. It is a symbol of Southern culture.
Dude Christopher is such an icon. It's been 5 years, I wonder what amazing things he's up to now
The kid at 6:13 is so painfully ignorant, I hope he's educated by now.
man this teacher has some of the most patience i've ever seen. Being a minority in a space with confederates must be tough. Respect.
Act like all conservatives are bad people
@@marvingonzalez8586 nope. just the kids in that class. you can tell because they'll be constitutionalists in one debate and then say fuck the bill of rights in the second. Thats the trademark of a douchenut conservative, but im sorry if mean man on the internet made you mad mad
Liberals do the same though. Last month - “Banned all guns, why did you need a gun? We have the cops, call 911”. Then turn around and say “dismantle the police, Fuck 12!”. Like bruh... that’s liberals lol. They have done the same with the Corona Virus. Tell everyone to stay inside or you’ll be fined, then immediately disregard what they just said and tell people to protest. It happens on both sides. I agree on certain prospects on each side. Who am I voting for though? Trump, cause Biden is just way to mentally dismantled. Dude has screwed up to many times. “If you don’t vote me, you’re not black.” Like what kinda BS is that lol
@@barry7816 1. i dont think anyone was actually making the argument police > guns, 2. those who are anti-gun are still anti gun, 3. liberals have dumbasses too its innevitable
@@barry7816 the difference is that liberals are just retarded and dumb, but many conservatives are lowkey racist and hateful of people....
All of them forget that a veteran TOLD him to kneel
a democrat veteran probably
REDEX TWISTED a veteran nonetheless. It doesn’t matter what party he’s part of.
REDEX TWISTED even if they were a democrat, they still served in the military
REDEX TWISTED now the only veterans with valid opinions are conservative? Shut the fuck up.
So?
I wanna know how this teacher actually feels about some of the things these students are saying
He said "The Confederate Flag Debate has 36,000 views". Well, it's at 3.3 million views now and still growing. They should do some sort of "where are they now" with some of these kids now and see how they feel about the issues now that they've gotten a little bit older. This is filmed in '16 from my understanding so now in 2021 I'm curious what's their view point on the same topics.
The kid that said “if he doesn’t like it LEAVE “ aww he’s definitely heard that at home and at the country club a lot
Lmao forreal, My man laughing in the background made it 10 times better.
Your smart Manal because you seem to know that this is a "taught" mindset and privilege that is passed down and it's sad.
@Michael Bobkov the constitution wasn't for black men it was originally written for white men. 2nd why don't all of y'all leave and see if the U.S becomes more peaceful. "And blow kisses at your inadequate wife, mother and sister who got the right to vote after the black man."
Yeah I’m partially against protesting the anthem but that made me cringe.
America is so unique. Instead of changing it into Canada or England, MOVE to England and let others enjoy the country and the freedoms we have
lmao the guy in the back at 5:50 that puts his head down and mouths "what?" after the guy says "you can just leave"... i feel you bro
D. Alexa haha, I saw that. Ugh I couldn't be in that room
D. Alexa “if he doesn’t like innocent black people getting murdered daily, he can just leave”
Dude would've got checked after school
@@JustinBullock03 hey buddy did u know in 2019, 9 unarmed African Americans got killed by the police and 19 white Americans got killed by the police so wat u talking bout
dougy h while the information you provided is true, you aren’t presenting enough information here hun. white people make up 72% of the population of the united states while black people make up approximately 12%. so yes there are more white people being shot unarmed by the police, but when looking at this data, black people are more likely to be shot if they’re unarmed in america
me pausing the video after each student speaks so I can add to the conversation even though im not there🧍♂️
I have a lot of respect for Mr Mohammed! You are genuinely doing a great service to these kids by hosting a conversation with these kids. They are learning more then the topic here. I was ruling on the fb comment! I've been involved in fb convos where adults weren't able to have a real discussion on this very topic. These kids are learning that sensitive topics can be talked about without destroy relationships. We don't have to agree to be friends!
"People just have to accept racism is just never going away" in translation "Black people will be descriminated against so accept it"
Ac E that’s exactly what they mean when they say that. THEY DONT EVEN WANT TO CHANGE IT
These kids might as well start off by saying "I'm openly racist "
Racism could be dead rn. But its us black niggas keepin it alive.
What time did they say that at
QB creamer#44 what are you talking about. Do you know KKK and white supremacy groups are still a thing, so please explain how is it our fault racism is still alive. All the these hate groups and racist people still exist in all races not just black people so your comment was really stupid and ignorant JS.
The kid who said “if you don’t like it leave” really thought he did something
Wow such an original comment
idk your reply makes no sense, you absolute melt
@idk you should be saying that to other girl lmao
@@Draftspike ooh you got me
idk ay shutcho ahh up
I knew somebody was gon say “if he doesn’t like it he can leave” and I knew somebody was gon be a white boy lol not even 10minutes in 🤣🤣🤦🏾♀️ bruh
After that guy said, “If he doesn’t like it then he can just leave” I was done with the whole video.
😂
I dont know who needs to hear this but Mr. Justice enters at 25:25
Fuc u
hahaha i looked for him !!!
Mama Joe joe mama
I needed to hear this, you’re doing amazing work
Lol that’s what I needed
These kids don’t understand that protest is supposed to be disruptive and supposed to make people talk about it.
they dumb
Yeah its more of question of effectiveness, are people more talking about the way the protest went down or what was protested.
they will never get it because like their ancestors they don,t want to get it ; they are perfectly fine with what's going on because they reap the fruits and the rewards of white supremacy.
If he did the things they mentioned they would not have been discussing the protest or the issue.
wrong not supposed to disrupt anything if it does it a riot not a protest
Yooooo my girl Natalie with the consistent take in both debates. love to see it.
I didn't realize Bernard Lowe was doing debates before he worked at Westworld.
Yes, Jeffrey Wright is moonlighting as a teacher during the off season.
Also I love the kid everyone calls the "professor" in this video and even more so the Confederate flag debate. Love him. Insightful, intelligent, well-versed, logical, courageous... he should be proud of himself
alayna trombley yes he needs his own segment
Agreed
i gotta stop watching this its getting me riled up and i need to go to sleep
ava M bro same it’s 2 am and I’m in the 2nd one
Literally. I’m sitting here like 👀🤔
its 4:31 am and I'm on my second video 💀
These videos make me mad because I can’t join the conversation!
Yup and all the guilt indoctrinated zombies will soon be voting. Some multiple times.
For anyone wondering where Chris is now, they have uploaded an interview with him on this channel.
Is this debate class or something? What is the setting? I didn't go to highschool in the states
im quite tempted to start a christopher fan page on twitter
Veronica Lucia please do it
I would make a Twitter just to follow
I will join! I m really impressed , he had debates in the comment section of the other video and I can’t believe how well versed he is on many issues. I would love if he started making videos or a blog o a podcast ! Anything really!
Sierra Harris same I have a crush on him 🥺
Do it. I will literally download Twitter if you do that, I'm serious
“If he doesn’t like it, he can just leave”
Lord I couldn’t be in that room. You’d have to throw me out and call the cops
Yeah, you guys are always getting violent. That's your problem.
Ok tough guy
@@hurryandleave9680 you wouldn't say that in person
@@thoughtsbeforeactions714 Of course I would. Why wouldn't I?
@Thoughts Before Actions is that supposed to be some kind of threat
Crazy watching this almost 5 years later from their initial discussion. And realize that Colin Kaepernick was right all along!
Colin Kaepernick sucks at football, was becoming irrelevant and then fulld these shenanigans to get attention.
LMAO...........
@@luigigonzales992 I know right. Colin with age became right! Like who could have predicted George Floyd. Nobody. He was letting people know but instead of listening. Some just made it about the flag like morons!
ummm the same people that said that "I wont get offended when you burn a confederate flag" are so offended about this. You love to see it.
People despised MLK when he was alive, don’t you dare say there is a BETTER way to protest!
Frr.
There’s actually research that’s said that he might have been the most hated man during his time.
Sydney Long
MLK was the most influential ? Look it up maybe
A better way to protest is kneel after the anthem so ur showing awareness but respecting your country
Leeny Lee please show us the research
so they want to "bring our country together" with a song but then own a flag (confederate flag) that was made so that our country can be separated..
Ariam Meseret its exhausting here oml
Ariam Meseret glad that i dont live in america
preach!!
Fjj ?
The logic is unreal 😂😂
Hey saw the previous video loved it love this one also. Just curious if this school has kept doing these can’t find another one. Hope y’all well continue doing these would like to see one about the capital hill riots.
It isn’t a hard concept to grasp. Him kneeling is his right, you can’t make him not kneel. I don’t necessarily agree with kneeling during the national anthem, but then again it was a good way to get his message out there by using his platform. I support people who use their platforms in a positive way. Also the girl with the braids that said veterans fought and died for his right to do so, I 100% agree. I used to think it was disrespectful but now I realize that he’s doing it for a good cause. But I still see why it may be “offensive”.
Black girl. The Professor kid. & the kid with the long hair made good points.
this is a really good point, Maeve
swacfan100 and Rico, the point about the burning house was a very solid analogy
The atheist kid and Captain America too.
@@maevesheedy8177 I actually prefer to have it mostly white so we can educate and make them see a side people of color always see and they don't.plus I like seeing them get triggered
This teacher is doing such a great job educating his students. They’re engaged, thinking, and listening to opposed views.
Yes but there was so much ignorance in that room.
I think so but he should be asking questions that question both sides of the arguments. You can definitely tell which side he is on.
Shockzy Let’s not act like there are two equal sides here. There is one right and one wrong here.
BrandonPryorMusic well there are two sides and I don’t know which you agree on but there is really no right answer here it’s just a bunch of opinions so you can definitely ask questions for both sides of the arguement
..Opposing views. But well put.
I JUST FUCKING REALIZED. These kids (some of them) argued that the confederate flag is protected by the 1st amendment but kneeling or sitting during a pledge to the flag is wrong… make it make sense
“I am offended that he would kneel during the one thing that unites America and brings us together”
America isn’t united just because the word is included in a really long name for a country
Where’s my man Christopher?!?
grim triX LOL! Nice :)
Working for the gov
I was looking for him too but I think he graduated already because I believe he was a sophomore last time I watched the video he was in(I've only seen the one about the Confederate flag, not sure if he was in other videos)
He's at about 25:30, watch it through.
Bruh he’s on a different spiritual plane than us humans he’s gone lol
Do they really think a song is bringing the country together????????!??!???!
@king prince but isn't Liberty and Justice for ALL a good thing??? There can be good ideas, that are executed poorly. He was a man full of contradictions he was on record stating the system of slavery was full of sin and "a bed of torture." IMO I don't think anyone knows about Key they just just hear the words and think yeah Liberty is good.
The national anthem never said liberty and justice for all, that’s the pledge of allegiance
a song written by an avid racist
Exactly!!! Teacher should share the TH-cam video that shows who the guy was that wrote the star spangled banner. It would be interesting to see everyone’s reaction after they find out what it originally says regarding slaves .
They don't teach what's really said in the last portion of the song. It's no surprise because mostly everything in American history is based on lies and deception.
our country's obsession with patriotism makes me extremely uncomfortable.
These are great conversations between young adults and I love it. I enjoy how the the teacher, even though at times seems biased or certainly not absolute centrist, is leading a conversation on topics that typical adults just can't have. We have become so tribal that we shut down from listening, the instance someone says something we disagree with and then we focus solely on a prove-them-wrong agenda.
To my point and the reason for posting. These are children, talking about very sensitive topics and their names should not be put out there like they are.
People really act like
1. The flag and anthem only represents veterans
2. Black people are veterans too, who are still treated like black people in America before they are treated like vets in America.
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@cool franky CR7 only democrats whites
not all black peole support kneeling, yuou DO uderstand that, too, right?
MrEvldreamr you’d be crazy not to...YOU KNOW THAT
lol keep crying
Protesting is NOT supposed to be comfortable, MLK, Malcolm X, Rosa Parks were told to stop being divisive when they protested too. Think about that for a sec.
UniquelyMade all communist agitators
UniquelyMade If MLK Had a problem with the police he would protest a police station and if he had a problem with the government he'd have a March on washington
Adrian M. KMAO, thanks for the laugh, now go back to watching faux news idiot
Matt TheDestroyer 2 what’s your point exactly?
UniquelyMade my point is just that if you want to make your protest clear, Protest what your against, don't protest the flag that represents our flag because it doesn't represent our police force, they could actually protest the police about police violence.
i love that youtube is now showing people this as of recently, but i wish these were shown to more peoples recommended pages when these first came out. these discussions need to be seen and if people saw this maybe there wouldnt be such hostility in our country over differing opinions. maybe more people would be willing to have a civil discussion about these touchy subjects
5:45 That dude in the back was ME LMAOOO
whats ya ig?
No one should be FORCED to stand for anything.
That would just bring us closer to dictatorship
@@invisibilly1946 So being forced to stand for a song makes us less of a dictatorship?
@@danielbrewster5182 Oh my bad I was agreeing with you. Lol sorry for the misunderstanding
@@danielbrewster5182 I was saying being forced to stand for something would make us a dictatorship
@@invisibilly1946 Oh ok. I guess I didnt read it right.
Telling someone to leave because they find a problem they don’t like in a country the live in is like telling yourself to throw your dirty dishes away instead of simply washing them! You think he can’t leave is crazy but why leave instead of help cleaning it up!
great analogy. Couldn’t have said it better myself
Him and his family need to leave because America is native Americans and Mexicans home country not white people
Antoine Porche-rideaux exactly white people didn’t find this country so he should leave how dare he say than leave
Antoine Porche-rideaux I recognize that people can live in harmony here but we should work to make it better for everyone. Telling someone to leave the US undermines the system of democracy our country was founded on
Exactly, telling people to leave cause they don’t like it here will just make America worse.
Im glad they are able to have these debates.
why did this suddenly pop up on my page & why am i so invested in this
RIGHT