I've just finished printing off my second batch of Voron 2.4 R2 parts along with various mods. The first batch was using black and red ESUN ABS+ and the latest batch is using ASA. First thing I noticed is that you are using a cooling fan. NEVER EVER use cooling when printing ABS or ASA. These materials shrink an enormous amount (up to 11%). By activating your cooling fan you are causing the material to cool too quickly. This will cause the part to "warp" and pull itself off of the bed as it's forced to cool and shrink and also cause the layers to separate. The idea of the enclosure is to slow the cooling and allow the part to shrink to its natural state SLOWLY. I would also recommend that you print your parts with a brim every time to aassist with bed adhesion. If you are using Cura slicer (I use Cura 5.2.1 and a modified Ender 6), I would also recommend setting your "Slicer Tolerance" setting under the experimental tab to "EXCLUSIVE" and print the extruder "Guidler" and "latch" parts off to ensure that your dimensional tolerances are good enough or they wont assemble correctly. You'll need to tune your flow to get this part right too. It looks to me that you're under extruding which is why the parts have gaps on the top surface. So to clarify..... Nozzle temp around 230-240 degrees, bed temp 90-100 degrees, let the printer soak in the enclosure for 30-60 mins before printing to get the enclosure temperature high enough, NO COOLING FAN, use a BRIM on ALL parts, print around 30-40mm/s to start with and ramp up if required. Don't assume that every reel of filament is the same. Tweak your settings for each new reel of filament. Even different coloured ABS from the same manufacturer often print with different results. Good luck. Once everything drops into place (adjusting 1 thing at a time and observing results) your printing will be spot on.
I was having very similar issues with the first layer and with prints in general (Ender3 S1 Pro) I tried many things but it turned around that the temperature of the nozzle was too high. It was still in the range yet was too high - I guess it depends on the filament...
i am having similar issues with my s1 pro with the bottom of the part with the lines on abs only. my pla prints look amazing it only does it with abs and its very ugly i am also printing functional peices so if you have found a remedy please share ive tried just about everything thanks
That underside looks like what you get with support interface layers. They are not smooshed together enough by the nozzle, lower z-offset and set your initial layer to 110% width. Should fix it.
Yeah there is no option in Cura for support interface that I can find (I know you are saying looks like lol) and I have my profiles set to "all" and I have searched and I do not see support interface layers or support interface anywhere in there. My previous prints all had nice smoothed bed textured bottoms where you can barely see if any lines. I corrected those issues. FYI Voron parts are designed not to print with supports on any parts.
@@eclypse3d I'm not saying they are support/brim interface layers, but they look like them because interface layers leave a gap between the plastic so the lines aren't squished together properly. In yoiur case I think the slicer setting are causing the problems, but it could be nozzle clogs, or z-offset issues.
Another issue I noted is the Inland brand from Microcenter, the ABS is just trash. It barely compares to PLA in my book, its just not great filament. I will go back to using Esun, Sunlu, or Hatchbox which I have good experiences with...
I use Micro Center ABS and never had any issues but I've never used the black. I'm using the stock Ender3 hot end so maybe you just have to tweak your settings for the direct drive and hot end on the S1 Pro.
My prints come out nice but sometimes the nozzle hits the supports and can break loose and beat the print to death if I am not watching, fun and games.
If you're using Cura slicer, make sure the "Avoid printed parts when travelling" and " Avoid supports when travelling" check boxes under the TRAVEL heading are ticked and also tick the "Z hop when retracted" is checked so the bed drops a bit when moving over the print. These should help prevent the nozzle hitting the part during printing. Hope this helps.
I've just finished printing off my second batch of Voron 2.4 R2 parts along with various mods. The first batch was using black and red ESUN ABS+ and the latest batch is using ASA. First thing I noticed is that you are using a cooling fan. NEVER EVER use cooling when printing ABS or ASA. These materials shrink an enormous amount (up to 11%). By activating your cooling fan you are causing the material to cool too quickly. This will cause the part to "warp" and pull itself off of the bed as it's forced to cool and shrink and also cause the layers to separate. The idea of the enclosure is to slow the cooling and allow the part to shrink to its natural state SLOWLY. I would also recommend that you print your parts with a brim every time to aassist with bed adhesion. If you are using Cura slicer (I use Cura 5.2.1 and a modified Ender 6), I would also recommend setting your "Slicer Tolerance" setting under the experimental tab to "EXCLUSIVE" and print the extruder "Guidler" and "latch" parts off to ensure that your dimensional tolerances are good enough or they wont assemble correctly. You'll need to tune your flow to get this part right too. It looks to me that you're under extruding which is why the parts have gaps on the top surface. So to clarify..... Nozzle temp around 230-240 degrees, bed temp 90-100 degrees, let the printer soak in the enclosure for 30-60 mins before printing to get the enclosure temperature high enough, NO COOLING FAN, use a BRIM on ALL parts, print around 30-40mm/s to start with and ramp up if required. Don't assume that every reel of filament is the same. Tweak your settings for each new reel of filament. Even different coloured ABS from the same manufacturer often print with different results. Good luck. Once everything drops into place (adjusting 1 thing at a time and observing results) your printing will be spot on.
I was having very similar issues with the first layer and with prints in general (Ender3 S1 Pro) I tried many things but it turned around that the temperature of the nozzle was too high. It was still in the range yet was too high - I guess it depends on the filament...
i am having similar issues with my s1 pro with the bottom of the part with the lines on abs only. my pla prints look amazing it only does it with abs and its very ugly i am also printing functional peices so if you have found a remedy please share ive tried just about everything thanks
I have some pretty amazing profiles for the S1 Pro if you're interested.
I am always open to try someone else's profiles. =)
@@eclypse3d Shoot me an email address or somewhere I can send you the profile.
@@DKFX1 you can use my eclypse3demons@gmail.com address...
Share the wealth lol I haven't really seen any good abs profiles yet
@@lovesdonutz I don't use ABS, so can't tell. They're awesome for PLA/Pro & PETG though.
That underside looks like what you get with support interface layers. They are not smooshed together enough by the nozzle, lower z-offset and set your initial layer to 110% width. Should fix it.
Yeah there is no option in Cura for support interface that I can find (I know you are saying looks like lol) and I have my profiles set to "all" and I have searched and I do not see support interface layers or support interface anywhere in there. My previous prints all had nice smoothed bed textured bottoms where you can barely see if any lines. I corrected those issues. FYI Voron parts are designed not to print with supports on any parts.
@@eclypse3d I'm not saying they are support/brim interface layers, but they look like them because interface layers leave a gap between the plastic so the lines aren't squished together properly. In yoiur case I think the slicer setting are causing the problems, but it could be nozzle clogs, or z-offset issues.
Another issue I noted is the Inland brand from Microcenter, the ABS is just trash. It barely compares to PLA in my book, its just not great filament. I will go back to using Esun, Sunlu, or Hatchbox which I have good experiences with...
I use Micro Center ABS and never had any issues but I've never used the black. I'm using the stock Ender3 hot end so maybe you just have to tweak
your settings for the direct drive and hot end on the S1 Pro.
My prints come out nice but sometimes the nozzle hits the supports and can break loose and beat the print to death if I am not watching, fun and games.
If you're using Cura slicer, make sure the "Avoid printed parts when travelling" and " Avoid supports when travelling" check boxes under the TRAVEL heading are ticked and also tick the "Z hop when retracted" is checked so the bed drops a bit when moving over the print. These should help prevent the nozzle hitting the part during printing. Hope this helps.