Panasonic GX80 Review for Video (vs GH5) GX85/GX7 Mark II
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Is this camera a real 4K Pocket Cinema Camera for your videos in 2021?
I will take a very close look at the GX80 as a filmmaking tool as a fulltime videographer and compare it to the undisputed MFT-King the GH5.
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The gear I use:
Panasonic GH5
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Metabones Speedbooster
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Sigma 18-35 f1.8
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Panasonic XLR1 (XLR audio adapter)
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Oktava MK-012 Microphone
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I'm a professional videographer and indie filmmaker from Austria and want to share my experiences. If you want to see some of my commercial work head over to www.jlfilm.at
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:00 Cinematic Testfilm
02:08 About the GX80
02:48 Body & Handling
04:37 Sharpness 4K & FullHD (vs GH5)
05:13 Low Light (vs GH5)
06:45 Picture Profiles & Cinelike-D Hack
08:03 Dynamic Range (vs GH5 in V-Log L)
09:25 IBIS (vs GH5)
10:00 Rolling Shutter in 4K & FullHD (vs GH5)
10:29 Recording Modes
11:32 Slow Motion
12:05 Autofocus
12:42 Audio & Vlogging
13:30 Battery life
14:21 What about the GX9?
14:50 Conclusion
15:46 Your thoughts? - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
No need to apologize for your English, it's very good. You're much better at it than we'd be at speaking your language :)
Thank you. :)
Been waiting for this video
I love my GX80 so much and I never regretted my decision to buy this camera at any time. I was always very happy with it!
Actually I'm still wondering, how this little thing can have so many things and how it can be that cheap. Great work from Panasonic, in my opinion!
Absolutely. It's a stunning piece of equipment.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker Yes :)
Great video, in depth explanation and examples! Thank you!
Amazingly comprehensive. Thanks
I'm thinking about getting this camera soon. Amazing footage you got 🙂
Thank you! Yes, it's still a great camera.
Very nice and well paced video. Btw, your English is excellent- no need to apologize :) Thanks for sharing your experience with the camera.
Thank you Joe. Your presentation of the GX85 was so good i have just ordered one. Can’t wait for it to arrive, which is Monday. You speak better English than the English do. Thanks again. Bill
Thank you for you comment! I am happy it was helpful to you.
Awesome review video 📸
Thanks, glad you liked it 🙂
Thanks for the video! We've had ours for 5 years now. So versatile: can take it on vacation and (with the right lens) shoot basketball games, the lenses are where you'd really level-up your game.
Absolutely, nothing shapes the image more than a nice lens.
I had the GX85 and sold it because it was necessary at the time. This is such powerful and under rated camera. Great channel btw...subbed!
Thanks, very appreciated!
I still have Gx85 :)
Great video mate! A few years ago I had this camera and I really enjoyed using it and especially the great video results it produced. I unfortunately sold it to make funds for a long term trip. But in my heart as I travelled the world, I never forgot this camera. Fortunately a few weeks ago I was able to pick one up again in mint as new condition for roughly $270 AUD/170 Euro. So I'll definitely be capturing more memories of my future travels. Keep up the great work! Regards from Australia
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Great that your story with this camera has an happy end!
longtime GX85 owner/user/fan. thanks for the effort and the sharing. you did not mention the wonderful 4k time lapse feature which i use often. yes, an audio input would have made this camera a legend. as is, it is still very capable. perhaps in another YT vid, you can share some of your settings. i do not shoot in cine-d but standard. using standard and depending on the scene, i can probably lift the shadows 2-ish stops.
Glad to share my thoughts. I never tested the timelapse feature, I should check that out, thanks for the note! I probably will do an overview of my setup for video, so stay tuned. ;)
The best camera!! I like do!
Really underrated camera. I hope you get to try the LX100 some day. It has surprisingly good 4k video, stabilization, and a great lens.
I would love to do that. The LX100 is such an intriguing camera with a very cool lens. Sensor seems to be the same as GH4/GX80 so image quality must be nice. Thanks for your suggetion!
I shoot everything on the GX80. Simply a great camera, especially when you know what you're doing. Flexible is the perfect word! :D
Bought it in japan, great lil camera
Don't apologize for your English it's very good and way better than many people in England.
Great video. Got this camera for a bargain price on Facebook marketplace. Yet to really explore it fully, but frustrating that they seem to purposely leave out features like the fully flip up screen and mic out.
I added the cinilike profiles before viewing this video and it was very easy btw.
Controversial opinion from a behind the camera 99% of the time person: i hate the flip out to the side screen. Its in the way for low angle photos and when filming its also in the way. Vlogging is kind of a niche thing and because some people want that screen, everybode has to suffer it...
I see where you are coming from. I am also a 99% behind the camera person, I only use the front facing for my youtube videos, but I always liked the flip out more since it's easier to turn than the only-tilt screens, which are a bit more stiff. I use an S1 as my main camera and I find it more cumbersome to tilt up than with the easier flip-out on my GH5. They turn all the way down for high up angles, unlike the much smaller rotation of the tilt screen, which are hard to see from down below because of the tight angle. That's just my experience, but to each their own. Tilt screens are definitely sturdier than flip out screens, so they have some advantage over flip out screens. But for me personally, I would choose a flip out any day.
Had a lx100, gx85, g85 and now gh5. Might jump in at GH7. VFR slow motion is everything. Had to sell gx85.
I have a GX85 and G85. Purchased inexpensive cages for them from Aliexpress and attach 7inch monitors that helps immensely with accurate focus and framing checks.
For production bang for buck you can get almost three of these for the price of one GH5.
My logic is having the ability of multi cameras recording simultaneously with different angles/framing and lenses etc even at 8bit is a better advantage than having just one 10bit camera at the same cost.
Totally agree. The GX80 is a great camera indeed. If you want to produce budget-friendly and mantain great IQ, you can't beat Panasonic cameras.
Dear Friend i also bouth a GX80 after your this good video. I have a Bmpcc 4K but for food videography this camera (gh80) really pratic and good. And i have a give 2 u an advice. I guess u used a compression in your video but your peak limit is very sensetive.Thats why u can use less sensetive peak level for your next videos. Respect from Amsterdam.
Glad to hear that I could help you with your buying decision!
The problem was the physical placement, that's why I had to manually reduce all wind breaths that caused the broken audio.
I have already fixed it as you can hear on my newer videos.
I have the Panasonic g85 and all these points are so on point, the only problem with my camera is the 1080p low data rate, if it was a bit higher, this camera would be amazing
Agreed 100%, but it's still an amazing camera.
Most of ours primary language is not English, please don't say sorry for it buddy. I also use the GX85 and I appreciate that you made this video focusing on it.
Thank you. Happy that you liked it!
I own the bmpcc4k and 6k pro.. but my dayly pocket camera is the gx80 is always in my jacket! With the 20mm 1.7 and 42.5mm 1.8 sometimes with a speed buster 😊
100% agreed. GX80 is also my go to pocket cam. I mostly use it with my Pergear 25 1.4 or for vacation with Oly 12-40.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker great man! I just love this tinny camera.. i know technology keeps evolving and interesting but i don't feel the need have to update! I been loving the results with a viltrox Speedbuster and my EF lenses for all my sigma 50-150 f2.8 equivalent to f2... Great for portraits! And the 18-35 f1.8 equivalent to F1.2 i love it
Have fun shooting man👍🏾
Hey, I also own BMPCC 4k and a full frame DSLR, but I realized I don't want to carry this crazy heavy equipment on family trips or walks. After some research I bought gx800, only to realize it doesn't have manual video controls (though it has 180-degree flip screen which is great for selfies, that gx80 doesn't have). I just bought gx80 so I can shoot some videos :) I also plan to use it with some canon fd lenses maybe + speedbooster :)
Hey, can anyone solve this. I found that AFS and AFC make no difference in video mode because AFS works continuous until I turn off "Continuous AF" in the menu? Why is that?
I would love to get Lumix but naming is hell hole. I really can't understand which one to pick.
Great video! I'm actually quite interested in buying this camera for photography. Can you tell me how the auto focus is in low light? I'm not so interested in video
Thank you.
Regarding photos it's still a good camera that shoots 16 Megapixel stills. AF in Low Light is not the best but image quality is nice for the price.
I have been using my GX80 for almost four years mostly for photography. It is excellent, the single point auto focus is fast. In low light it usually works well as long as there is some contrast.
@@MichaelGerrard did you pickup the gx85 if so what do you think of it
@@sdhute yes I have used the GX80 (same as GX85) for years. Excellent camera, highly recommend, especially at the knock down price it is sold at these days.
Introduce some FF cheap camera?
Hi, what lens did you use when shooting on your GX80? Looking for recommendations for something cinematic looking for wedding videography
I used the Olympus 12-40 2.8 as an allrounder and Pergear 25mm 1.8 for more shallow depth of field.
Does the gx85 have the grain setting in monochrome picture profile ?
There is no grain setting in my camera. But you can control Noise reduction and you have color filter modes which give different monochromatic results.
Hi Joe, do you prefer cine-d or natural picture profile?
I prefer Natural, since it's much easier to work with. The haalf stop advantage of CineD isn't worth the trouble most of the time.
No mike IN unfortunately:/
How do you get the Cinelike-D. I thought panasonic disabled it for this model?
With the hack I mention in the video, link is in the description. The profile is installed in the camera but for some reason panasonic decided to disable it. With the hack you can enable the profile.
There is one thing that I am confused about. Would appreciate your explanatino. What difference will I see in the 12-32mm lens or 14-140mm lens compared the very expensive one that you have in your link which is the Sigma 18-35mm (apart from I guess the 1.8 aperture)? That sigma lens looks huge and bigger than the 300mm, what is all that bulk on the lens that only has a max 35mm magnification? I am confused about what a lens that is more expensive than the camera can deliver. Thank you so much for a great video.
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated!
It is primarily the aperture, but also the very clean and high quality imagery even when wide open. Combined with a Speedbooster, the Sigma 18-35 becomes an 14-25 f1.2 on MFT! So you get a lot of shallow depth of field with this lens. Yes, it is heavy, limited in range and expensive, but the images are gorgeous. You don't buy such a lens for flexibility, but for its look and IQ.
The Panasonic lenses are also amazing, but serve a completely different purpose. They are lightweight travel companions with a very usable range, espc the 14-140 is great for getting all kinds of shots. But you never get the same image out of that lens, than what I would get out of the Sigma.
I hope I could answer your question.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker Very much appreciated. I'll check the rest of your videos. If you ever do a lens comparision style video on a GX80 or GX9 that would be awesome. I've uploaded various 4K videos using the GX9 (mostly 14-140 lens). The last one I mentioned below I thought was my best cinematic style yet (with colour grading). Let me know your opinion and any tips/advice to use on my next 4K edit. All the best
V good video, plz advise me best photo camera for wedding videography under 1000$, plz reply.
A used GH5 is under 1000$ without a lens and is the best camera for wedding videography in that price range.
How do you like the 12-40 on the GX80? Does it feel too big for it?
Sometimes, but it's so versatile and f2.8 gives enough background separation for me. It's overall no weight issue, since the setup is so lightweight compared to most other system. But I love my Pergear 25mm 1.8 ob the GX80 and the Olympus 17mm 1.8 is also amazing with this body.
Hello. I have a question... I've been offered Panasonic Lumix DMC GX80 / Vario 12-60mm / Vario 45-150mm for 600 euros in Germany. The camera is second hand (I will be the second owner) and is in possession of the current owner for 5 years... Is this a good deal... PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!! :D
Which 12-60 is it? The 3.5 or 2.8 one?
If it's the 3.5 one it's a fair price, not a bargain deal, but ok. If it's the 2.8 it's a steal.
Dear Joe. Again me :)) is Gx80 has a focus peak color ? Red or green ?
Dark blue and light blue.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker thx so much.i found it !! :) Yellow light green and red, blue ! Super !!
Hi I'm sorry I'm very new to this. So i can't add an external microphone on top of the camera and connect it with the camera its self to improve the audio quality?
Sadly no. But you can use an external recorder, like a Zoom H1 or Tascam DR05, those are super cheap and record excellent quality. You can also record with an external microphone, like a Rode Videomic, on those.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker what if I get a g80. Do you think that it is as good as the gx80 quality wise? It's a bit heavier and bigger I know, but it also have a 180 flipped screen
The G80 has the same sensor and recording as the GX80, so yes, imagewise they are the same. The added bonus of the G80 is the microphone input. If thats essential to you, get the G80, it's an awesome camera which I used for over a year for wedding videography. Only get the GX80 if you want a pocket camera, it's awesome in that regard.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker thank you
Glad I could help!
Thank you very much for this great video. Do you know whether the gx80 provides a clean hdmi out so you can use it as a webcam together with a capture card?
Absolutely. Check out my newest video where I do exactly that!
Leider hat die Kameras auch in 2022 immer noch das Focushunting im Hintergrund. Leider... Weil ansonsten ist es eine tolle Kamera.
I really need a new camera but I dont know what to choose, sony zv1 or penasonic gx85 ?! Because the two of them have a super great quality but gx85 has no flip out screen and sony zv1 is too expensive ! 😫😅
Depends on what you want to shoot. Do you need AF and flip screen fpr vlogging? Then the GX85 might not be the best choice.
If you don't vlog, you don't really need those things and the GX85 might work just fine.
I think I’ll finally go for the sony zv1 because of flip screen, AF and 4K its better for the kind of videos i want to shoot on my YTB channel ! Thx ☺️
If you need it then the ZV1 will be the better choice, that's for sure. Have fun creating! 🙂
good for photo? or better apsc in this price?
I love it for photos. Super compact form factor and great image quality. There are surely APS-C cameras with better quality, but the form factor, usability and price is on point with this camera.
My only gripe with that camera has nothing to do with the camera itself, and everything with me. I love the image quality for the price and wanted to buy some of the Meike MFT Cine lenses. It's a fantastic lens, but I underestimated the weight. Paired with this camera it is just to unbalanced to use without some sort of rig, which of course defeats the purpose of such a tiny camera. Sadly the Smallrig cage is not available any more... Currently I use a 3d printed Camera Grip from eBay for better handling.
Maybe someone stumbles across this comment that can give me some recommendation in that regard
Watch my GX80 Rig video that works without a cage ;)
I love my gx85 camera
Lately I'm Shooting Video in 1080 25p and not 4K
2 reasons
it's good quality and smaller files
Auto focus Performance is slow compare to 1080
Cons: No mic jack :(
MFT low Dynamic Range
Yeah, I also shoot 1080 for private stuff, but in 50p for the occasional slow motion.
Yes, AF is super slow in 4K.
I find the DR to be quite ok, it's comparable to the GH4. It's no modern fullframe in that regard but I am happy when using it for family videos.
Why are you uploading all of your videos at 1080!!, yt destroy them …
I didn't get what lens did you use n the camera
Olympus 12-40 2.8
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker I mean the manual lens that is visible at minute 2:50
Peargear 25mm 1.8
It's a 8bit color camera. It's not worth using cinelikeD or V. I use natural profile.
Yes, natural is way more pleasing and less work. But CinelikeD works fine in 8Bit, I never had a broken image with that profile. Log on the other hand requires 10Bit to work well.
I saw that this camera can be "hacked" to have 60 fps, is there a problem with using that configuration that comes internally but not natively?
I have no experience with that "hack" , but I can take a look at it.
I’m using mine like that for years now without any problems whatsoever!
I guess you loose the ability to shoot 25p and 50p?
I own this camera and the 60fps "hack" switch video mode from PAL to NTSC without problems. Video framrate dipends by PAL/NTSC mode (25 or 50 FPS for PAL and 30 or 60 FPS
Can you access the PAL/NTSC mode in a menu after the hack or do you need to do the whole procedure over to switch back to PAL?
.. GX80 (16) and GH5 (20) have DIFFERENT sensors!! ;-) (btw, gx80 can be programmed to use NTSC)
Yes, I am aware of that and never stated anything different. I was referring to the GH4, which uses the same 16MP-sensor as the GX80. I misspelled it while recording on accident and added the "*GH4" when I made that mistake. I shot my feature on the GH4, not the GH5.
That's also why I am comparing the different sensor performance regarding dynamic range and low-light.
Yes I heard you can change that, but for european users it's not ideal since you loose the PAL-framerates. But if one doesn't need them it's a very good option.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker My opinion on this is that it's worth it to change it to NTSC. 30/60p is ideal in my opinion for online Content. Most if not all Monitors have a refresh rate of multiples of 30, regardless of what region you are in, so playback will be smoother on TH-cam etc. then with PAL frame rates. I doubt that a lot of users of this particular camera are doing broadcast work or tv series of sorts, that would benefit from 25p standard. And the differences between 25p and 24p is minuscule anyway. Most films are shot in 24p and you don't see people with PAL TV's complaining about it :)
Thanks for your comment. I get that point, has been made by a lot of TH-camrs. Still, I like to stick with 25p, since many features are not possible in 24p on other cameras, like 50p, respectively 48p. It's only a matter of time until this changes. But at the moment, when I do projects, I must keep a consistent framerate since I don't want to hassle with framerate conversion. But then again, I work with a lot of different cameras, this can differ a lot from shooter to shooter. If you only use the GX80, then the hack is absolutely worth it. It's just not for me.
I've had mine for a few years now, and completely agree. It can act as a B cam for a GH camera, especially in 4k. The 1080p is a little thin, but still useable in short stints.
Cinelike D is okay if used by itself, but the cinelike D from the GH cameras is better quality. Even at the same settings, the GX85 cinelike D isn't quite an exact match. Interestingly, the GX85 has better high ISO than the GH4.
The real tradeoffs come with handling. It really needs a grip to be comfortable (for me) and if you're used to the multiple function buttons of a GH camera, it can be tricky having to use the touchscreen.
I absolutely agree with your findings, it's great for what it is.
I also find the Cinelike-D a bit off in terms of color, but it's also not my favourite profile on the GH cameras. The skintones are hard to get right without a proper LUT or tool like Filmconvert.
I must say that I was surprised by how easy it is to operate. I don't really miss any button or dial, but I guess that depends on the personal shooting styles. Of course a grip is nicer to hold, but I think the form factor is what makes this camera special and good looking.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker It's been a year, and I moved my GX85 from Cinelike D back to Natural, and I prefer the colours now. A couple of months ago, I got the JJC grip, which improves the handling immensely, and it still looks awesome. I sometimes pair the GX85 with the G9 or S5 (I upgraded from the GH4), and with a bit of colour grading, they can match pretty well. This weekend, I'll be out shooting Christmas lights with the GX85 and S5. Fun times. Have a good weekend!
Good to hear. You have a nice setuo going, have a great time shooting!
Ich hab eine gx80 ,g81 und eine gh5 und ich finde die bildqualität der gh5 ist viel viel besser. Die kleinen kameras haben nur sehr geringe bitraten. 1080 is richtig achlecht im vergleich zur gh5 und auch bei 4 k nehme ich lieber die gh5.
Ja man erkennt die niedrigen HD Bildraten sehr gut bei bewegten Motiven. Wäre super wenn Panasonic eine GH5 im GX Body anfertigen würde, aber ich denke es sind einfach technische Limitationen.
Hatte selbst die G81 und G91 und war von der Qualität der doch etwas größeren Kameras etwas enttäuscht. Bei der GX80 kann ich damit leben, da der Body einfach so klein ist.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker für vieles reicht mir die video qualität von allen kleineren pana kameras, besonders 4k , nur im vergleich zur gh5 halt nichtnicht (200 mbit all i full hd ist unglaublich gut, besser als 4 k anderswo)Interessant ist auch das ich mit der image app von panasonic videos auf mein ipad impoerieren kann und von der gh5 leider nicht, egal ob full hd oder 4k.
4K ist mMn an allen Panasonics sehr ordentlich. Aber wenn man mit dem 10Bit FHD der GH5 gearbeitet hat ist man schon sehr verwöhnt.
Hab ich noch nie probiert mit der App. Ich nutze die meist nur wenn ich die Kamera am Jib habe und einen kabellosen Monitor brauche. Zum Übertragen von den doch sehr großen 10Bit Dateien ist es wohl zu datenintensiv?
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker geht auch mit 8 bit nicht. Die app für die grossen s1 und s5 können es aber hab ich gelesen.
We all have different needs for our gear and the amount of time we spend working on our work in post ...
For me, quite frankly, any camera without a microphone in is not going to be used for video. Yes, if you have time you could synch external audio in post.. but I don't have that time and I require good enough audio directly as I film and for this I have either a lavilier microphone or a shotgun microphone mounted on my G80 (note G80, not GX80) with it's audio input. Please also note: I do not vlog.
Why do I not have time to synch up audio in post and why do I not bother with all this color grading? I am a university lecturer who pre-records some lectures and I would rather get the lighting good enough and the audio good enough directly, edit out pauses or whatever and upload with as little, in my opinion, mucking about more with sound and visual image quality. My students much prefer the "quality" of my pre-recorded lectures over live lectures via Zoom.
So . ....if this camera had microphone in then for me it would be a "video camera" since it is only with sound and visuals that you get video. The small size is not appealing except for photography and I have a GX9 😀. Hope you do not find this too critical but you did ask what viewers thought. 😀
No not at all, I agree with your thoughts. As you said everyone has different needs. I see is as a camera you have with you all the time to quickly grab some sequences, not for lectures and other long-form events and interviews.
If you need audio the G90 or G80 are better choices. And I also did a shootout between the GX85 and the GH2. The GH2 lacks the stabilization but has an audio input. It only costs 150€, so it could be a better and cheaper alternative for people in need of audio.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker like the GX9 that I have, it lacks a flippy screen. What you wrote is also true, as long as your mouth is close enough (50-70cm) to the built-in microphones the audio is 'ok' and works. And I have been behind my camera and filmed and "narrated" what the viewer will be seeing once everything is done. But for me that is such a niche use. So I use my GX9 mostly for stills and my G80 mostly for video (and for photography when the weather is not so good). [Addendum: I have used the GX9 to handhold film and narrated the viewer through my G80 set-up, so yes it has its uses 😀]
Syncing audio takes about 4 seconds in davinci resolve. Try it some time!
@@baqcasanke we develop a work flow with what we have, I am minamilist so as few programs and gear as possible to not clutter up. But we all have different use cases
Thanks for this great presentation. I'm a complete novice and only just started to experiment with the GX9. I found the CineD created too much grain and a slightly cloudy look. My preference was the CineV which created a better contrast for me. Still learning. I've just subscribed. Check out this example video of some coastal views: th-cam.com/video/KIWUOrn7-9A/w-d-xo.html
Glad you liked it. CineD is nice if you have enough experience color grading. It definitely needs some work. The other profiles are much easier to handle, absolutely. Cine-V is also nice, I used it a lot on the GH4.
The GX9 is very noisy, the crop is just too much.
I just wish that the gx80/85 can record 4k 200 mbps.
Yes that would be awesome, but the 100Mbits are already pretty sturdy. 10Bit would be even nicer.
great cam, but AF sucks, no firmware update from 2018...
The AF is definitely a weak point. We probably won't see any upgrades anymore since it's already an older camera.
@@TheBudgetFilmmaker that s for sure, otherwise it s a underrated compact beast....
I have had this camera for 5 years…..then came along my Samsung S8 phone. On a whim I did video and photo comparisons and I was shattered….S8 was as good and frequently better quality than the Gx85 and 10 time easier to use. In fact I find the camera a pain in the &@$ to use. Waaaaaay too many useless feature crammed in for marketing. My current S20 far surpasses the gx85 in picture quality and video quality. Sans telephoto work of course. I have lost faith in any camera values now for70% use cases. Selling my Nikon 5300 and this GX85.
The interchangeable lens alone, can make me choose the gx85..
But for daily use, sosmed, phone is more than enough
No mike IN unfortunately :/
Yes, that's something I really miss on that camera.