The Electric Volkswagen ID.4 Takes On The World's Toughest Towing Test...And It's A Nail-Biter!
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0:00 Setup
2:10 Start Range Test
6:20 Uphill Range Report
7:27 Ike Downhill
13:04 Ike Uphill
22:51 Downhill Range Report
28:17 Charging
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As a Colorado resident and someone who is interested in an EV, I really appreciate this kind of test. Nice work guys!
Just go up first next time. stop ruining the suspense! hate the tortured person who thought going down first would be better
Buy an EV. You won’t regret it. It’s easier to live with than a gas car.
@@garrettw99 EVs won't charge in the cold so you have to have a garage to charge unless you live where it is warm. We live in the Colorado mountains where it gets quite cold at night and we don't have a garage. So to get an EV we would have to build a heated garage. But if we did that we would want to also expand two bedrooms and maybe add another deck. So to get an EV we would have to spend over $50k on our house. That would cause some regret.
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- You know you can tell the car to activate the ac and keep the car warm while its plugged in charging.
- EV's can charge and operate in the cold, northern europe is full of EV's...
@@plushiie_ I was told that you can't even charge an EV when it is cold using 120v. It supposedly uses all the electricity heating the battery to accept the charge. So you have to have 240v to even charge in the cold. Has that changed? I suspect all those EVs in Northern Europe get charged in garages, not outside. It isn't that EVs don't work in the cold, just that you really have to have a garage to own an EV in cold locations.
I like how we've gone from "Will EVs work at all", to "can I do my commute in an EV", to "can I road trip an EV", and now finally to "can I tow with an EV". There's been so much progress since the EV-1!
Still not of a fan of charging all night and not being full. All my gas vehicles except for my boat can be full from bone dry tanks in less than 5 minutes including the time fighting with the pumps credit card reader.
If you use an entire tank of gas per day, you could save a ton of money by switching to an ev and using your dryer outer to charge (220v).
@@treborheminway3814 thar defeats the point. I despise the idea of waiting hours to refill my car. Gas is almost instant. And i can still tow way more efficient.
@@sketchyssk8shop if your talking towing, I would agree that were not there yet, but it's a matter of energy density not efficiency. Evs are way more efficient. They basically carry the energy equivalent of 2 to 3 gallons of gas. However, in commuting senerios and many road trips, its nice to wake up everyday with a full tank.
@@treborheminway3814 i can comute for 2 weeks on a 5 minute fillup. I can drive till im at empty and in an emergency i can grab my gas can for my mower and get somewhere in a pinch. Your evs are sol and you gotta call someone to come get you. Once the government quits giving everyone massive tax breaks the sales will dry up. When you pay the real cost minds change. Plus since the cars are putting the batteries into the frames soon planned obsolescence will be real just like our mobile devices.
Love the video. I am an ID.4 owner. I switched from Tesla Model 3 performance to ID.4. ID.4 is a much more comfortable car. I use it as my work car and it is easy for my customers to ride with me in it. Most of my customers are older men and women, they used to complain about how low the Tesla was and seats not being comfortable. I haven't taken a weekend camping trip in ID.4 yet but thanks to your video man, I am gonna try it.
Keep producing great videos TFL team!!.
I find the Model 3 seats to be wonderfully comfortable. There is adjustment with the lumbar support.
The advantage the ID.4 has is its higher off the ground making getting in and out much easier, especially for those with older knees like myself.
The Model Y is more comparable to an ID4 and has higher seating position. It also has a ton of room (including a Frunk) so have been camping in it instead of towing a trailer.
@@brucec954 No, frunk means no nose-heavy weight ahead of the front axle which gives FWD handling characteristics. Without it makes it more of a RWD-like neutral handling vehicle. And that is a bonus.
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Problem with the model 3 is trying to get in and out of the back seats. I've got a friend who has some mobility issues in her legs she's also a bit on the chunky side. And she could not even get into the back seat. The roof line was too low that she had to duck her head to the point where her body wouldn't fold that much and she couldn't get in the backseat at all. The model y was no problem. One thing about the model why though is the rear seat is actually narrower across than the model 3. Also there's a pretty significant threshold to go across if you look at where the body panel is versus where the seat starts. Again if you've got mobility problems some people we'll have difficulty getting in and out. The Volkswagen definitely has the more practical interior. Also it rides softer and quieter which again for passenger service is probably the better bet. The thing I really like is you can get a base model Volkswagen which has pretty much everything you'd want for 39 Grand. I don't need the big glass panoramic roof in fact I would prefer not to have one. I like the fact that Volkswagen sells a version that skips that feature that is of absolutely no use to me. Also I like the fact that they offer cloth seats. It gets extremely hot or I live and car interiors can get upwards of 150° f. Put your butt down on leather seats while you're wearing shorts that is not a fun situation. The base model ID 4 is what I would probably get. But I've never owned a Volkswagen and I'm a little skeptical about reliability even though it's an electric vehicle.
I drive 50 to 60,000 miles per year. My current car is a 13-year-old Prius with 376,000 miles on it.
@@kens97sto171 I think we are both agreeing the ID.4 is easier to get in and out of. No the Model 3 seats do not get hot during the summer months if you employ cabin overheat protection.
Andrei has the best range anxiety of all TFL reviewers IMO. Great review.
I think ID 4 performed very well I'm impressed 💯
I am impressed. The ID.4 AWD Pro is supposed to have the same range even with AWD and 100 more horsepower. EVs don’t lose power with the increased altitude.
Just for everyone's information 1.6mi/kWh is the equivalent of 54 miles per gallon. Goes to show just how efficient EVs are
@ $.43/kWh for the charger andre used thats $26.88 per 100 miles
@monono954 how do you get to that number of 54 miles per gallon? he was paying .43 per kWH that would be an average of almost $0.27 per mile, that would be that same of a gas car getting around 11mpg at $2.99/g.. a car running regular gas of $2.99 per gallon getting 54mph would cost 0.055 per mile
@@mattbrew11 yea, they're 100% gouging, IMO. Even still 90%+ of the charging you'll do with an EV is at home. I pay 11¢/kWh for electricity and most of us pay around that.
@@monono954 charging stations aren’t cheap. Its a business not a charity. I get that I was just throwing out another calculation I might appreciate if I was newer into considering EVs
@@trullmann the amount of energy consumption. A gallon of fuel contains, on average 33.7kWh of energy. If the car is getting 1.6 miles to the kWh that means that with 33.7 kWhs, the car will travel 54 miles.
The pricing at that station is 100% gouging. Residential rates for electricity average 13¢/kWh in the US. The average rate in Boulder Colorado is 11¢/kWh. Commercial rates are normally way less than that, so that station was just highway robbery.
I think that was a pretty decent result- you wouldn’t buy the ID4 if you were towing regularly but it’s nice to know that it can tow if you need it. We considered the ID4 as a family car to join our BMW i3 but we weren’t sold on the interior and infotainment system. Luckily in Scotland you can get a Skoda Enyaq or Audi Q4 E-tron based on the same platform/battery/motor. We’ve got a Q4 on order👍🏻🏴
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i agree. we bought the id.4 awd pro s because the q4 was not yet available. we are planning on trading for the q4 just before warranty expires.
@@TeamMadcrew we’ve had our Q4 E-Tron since November now and we’re loving it. It’s a 40 S-Line so RWD, but no regrets so far. Production has been hit with massive delays, but luckily we avoided that. I’ve put some videos up of you want to see how it’s been going👍🏻🏴
Can’t wait to see the new ford lightning tackle this test !!!
I came here to say the exact same thing! Range anxiety is no fun!
it will not tackle this test, will probably overheat & run out of battery
I’m going to find out next year.
I would rather see the Lighting tackle a long range test under heavy load.
@@AkioWasRight what are you thinking? like a test pulling around 10,000lbs? would be interesting
Best TFL video ever! Great job, Andre.
Good video. I especially like that Andre charged at EA just long enough to get him where he was going. The ID.4 charged at full 125kW the whole charge session which is impressive.
This is an incredible car at a decent price. Best car in class when they launch the AWD version later this year.
It had better towing efficiency than I expected 👍🏼
Nice Job!!! I've done that drive in my ID 4 without a trailer, and it was fabulous. It was very interesting to see how it performs with one!
Nice video Andre. Keep up the good work!
What's really interesting is the same conditions that make it hard for a traditional vehicle to tow at high elevations (thin air) would presumably work in an EV's favor. EV's don't need to take in air to create propulsion, but the thinner air would actually put less drag on the overall vehicle and trailer. Definitely more EV towing tests!
Your mostly right, EV’s don’t need intake air to create propulsion, but they do need it for cooling. The batteries and motors do generate waste heat while they are drawing stored energy and consuming it at high output levels. Most are equipped with some sort of cooling system to extract that heat and dissipate it. And the thinner air results in less heat exchanger (radiator) efficiency, so keeping everything adequately cooled is a requirement. Andre discovered that altitude did effect his his Ford F-150 Power Boost Hybrid truck Ike tow test. Altitude did effect its cooling capability.
The VW ID-4 was pulling a fairly light trailer, so the heating loads are considerably smaller than a larger and heavier trailer would generate.
@@americanrambler4972 That's a great point about evaluating cooling capacity in regards to towing. I suppose it's always possible that EV makers undersize the cooling in relation to the tow rating, as can happen with traditional IC cars. As EVs mature, it'll be interesting to see how they spec what a tow package means, and whether that includes larger heat exchangers. Or how easily an aftermarket HX can be spliced in by the end user, like adding a tranny cooler to an IC car.
Great test, Thank you TFL
Andre does great real world tests and reviews with his likeable personality. I can only imagine how the commentary and facial expressions would be if the back up Ram wasn't following.
Great video. Playing out all these scenarios that we will encounter in the future answers a lot of questions. Thanks for this peek into the future Andre.
Thanks for the look at pulling a sleeper with the ‘sleeper EV’. I just bought a 22 ID.4 and it’s nice to see that it can manage near 2m/kWh. Seemed like it was fairly warm, so that’s probably best case for the light trailer. The one thing I’ve learned from 1 weeks winter ownership of the ID.4 is that efficiency falls A LOT as it gets colder. Looking forward to summer, and maybe a 1 sleeper tiny trailer …. Thanks again Andre!!
Love these tests. Keep em coming!
Awesome video! I have a homemade teardrop trailer similar in shape and I'm either going to get an ID.4 or Ioniq 5. Mine doesn't have those big off road wheels though so maybe I could do even better in terms of efficiency.
If you get n ID.4 with 19" wheels it'll do slightly better as well.
Well done for not chickening out before reaching the top! :-) This is what we want to see. Great Test! Thank you.
Great video guys!!
Nice video! Though most don't have an Ike Gauntlet to navigate, it's nice to know that you could easily carry your mountain bikes and/or motorcycles with an ID4. Finding a charger that can accommodate a trailer is another story.
I get it …Tike Ike because you’re towing a Little Tike on the trailer.
Fine, have my “like” for this Tike Ike video.
Thanks for that test, car is impressing!
Great review. Every time you mention Golden, reminds me of Golden, British Columbia in the Canadian Rockies 😀
FINALLY, a video of the ID.4 towing! Thank you thank you thank you! It would be awesome to compare it to the AWD ID.4 when that comes out. Please let us know how the AWD works if you get your paws on one. (if its selective, only when wheels are slipping, etc)
First test I've seen with a trailer and nice to see as this is actual mountain pass involved and 142miles/227km range with that trailer. Arriving with 5% is perfect as well means you get max charge rate from the charger as your battery will also be nicely warmed up ready.
Wow great test. Surprised me with this one.
You typically camp with more than one person so you’d have to add more weight (people and supplies) for this to be even more realistic
It's not the weight that's the big problem it's the added drag.
@@morilot True..taking that stupid toy thing off the front might help...plus why do you need monster truck tires on a trailer with an ID4 with no ground clearance. ..its not like you are going on jeep trails. Should have swapped tires on that trailer with smaller ones.
@@markparent7999 I think they use the trailer they got, also think there's some marketing here.
Also it's a small teardrop trailer so the added drag and resistance from the oversized tyres is probably smaller than the added drag from a bigger trailer. So I think the test is valid.
Great test and video. How would the ID4 do on the same route without the trailer?
Something to consider: the energy in one gallon of gasoline is 33.4 kWh. A 77 kWh battery contains the same energy as about 2.3 gallons of gas. Andre drove about 139 miles before arriving at the charger with 6% battery left. That would be 72.38 kWh consumed or about 2.165 gallons of gasoline energy equivalent. Doing the math on the mileage results in 64.2 MPGe.
Very impressive.
So at 43c a kWh that is $31 bucks to go 139 miles. A reasonable SUV can get 20 mpg, so 7 gal of gas or $20-$22 and it can go 2x or more the range. Not so impressive.
@@psychic1999 That price for electricity is exorbitant. That's the "we've got a charger at the shopping center and you aren't going to make it home without a charge while you shop" price. I pay less than $0.08 per kWh where I live. That includes generation and transmission. So it would cost me less that $6.20 to make that trip in electricity.
It looks like around Denver the price is 11 to 12 cents per kWh for residential customers so no more than $9.29 in that area.
I am sure if you had to hunt for a gas stations as hard as Andre hunted for a charging station gas would be more expensive too. It comes down to scarcity. As EV adoption increases there will be more charging stations and more competition which will drive down prices.
Of course if you are taking a trip you should probably know what your are getting yourself into, especially if you are going to be towing your teardrop up I-70 west of Denver.
In a more typical commuting use case EVs are way ahead of ICE vehicles in cost of ownership over the life of the vehicle. Do your own research. What can't be refuted is how much more efficient EVs are than ICE vehicles which is what I am pointing out in my comment above.
I live in Dillon and I'm leaning toward buying an ID.4 to commute over the pass everyday. This was very helpful. Thank you for putting this up.
Mountainous terrain with plenty of ups and downs seems well suited for EV towing. I think areas that EVs will struggle would be rural long continuous grades combined with continuous headwinds (like the entire state of Nebraska when going Westbound on I-80). At least the mountainous terrain provides opportunity to Regen. In very rural areas I think you could struggle to make it between chargers on especially windy days.
The drive west from Dallas to Raton Pass into Colorado is exactly what you describe... Uphill, wind blows east constantly. It was the last major gap in Teslas road trip charging network...
Was not expecting it to make it. Nice
Thanks Andre for the in the trenches review!
An important thing with ev's is that driving slower greatly increases the range. Pulling a trailer and going 50 vs 60 makes a big differance.
I think you've just done a very very good test!
Perhaps my preconceived suspicions about the US4 are misplaced after all!
Many thanks for the review.
Awesome, it reminds me of just how similar weight issues are to EVs just like with bush planes here. The more the weight the shorter the range.
Good job Andre love the sweat beading up on your forehead when it was 15% battery left.
Great vid guys! Can you please do a towing and off road video of the Volvo xc40 pure electric or the xc60 polestar phev?
I used to think these tyke Ike videos were silly, but I saw two different teardrop/small campers being towed by little crossover SUV’s at the beach today. Didn’t realize it was such a trend.
I gotta give it a thumbs up just for the initial opening music :-). Suspense! Drama! Murder Mystery! Will the vehicle make it... will the battery blow up... Cliff-hanger episode, will the auxillary vehicle (the plastic toy car on the trailer) be able to save the day once again! What fate awaits our protagonist at the ends of the world!
-Matt
Really cool test. Super practical and a harbinger of the future.
Excellent test. Will you eventually let us know what it cost for the trip and how many gallons of regular gas/diesel and MPG one would have to achieve in another vehicle to equal?
Now I am waiting till you can do a test on a electric pickup. What I would find interesting if you loaded one to what is equivalent to a logging crew heading out to work and do a run on a industrial road. Nice cold day in the winter would be great.
Know most pickups today are used as a replacement for the 4 door sedan yet would be nice to see a test using one as it originally designed for.
I can't wait for my ID.4 to arrive.
It's an awesome car....i have driven ~5000 miles and genuinely impressed.
Excellent video glad I made my choice to buy one of those.
Good one Andre, this was a first to see the trailer and then trying to kill the car on the mountain route - the Id.4 came through as you said.
Enjoyed this challenge, well done Andre. It also looks stressful to him, thinking about the range all the time.
The ID.4 is a really good looking SUV
Excellent Review didn’t buy the ID.4 to tow but it’s nice to know it can handle it, using regen braking with the cruise does not give you anywhere near as much benefit, if you would have used it manually it would not have been even close to giving you range anxiety. Still I like the drama of the content. Thank you for answering the towing question for us. 👍🏻
Would really like to have an ID.4 for towing my 1700lb popup camper. A Bolt EV has done fine with it so far but the slower charging (and no official tow rating) is a drag. Cool to see more towing-rated and fast-charging EVs hitting the market!
Cannot wait for you guys to get a tow test with the rivian and the ford truck. Heavy real weights on the ike.
I'm glad to see all the real world test you guys do. I always watch all the videos especially about the EV's. I am more interested in seeing what the trucks can do on the challenge. Especially the Lightning and the Rivian. I still believe we have a very long way to go before we can actually say EV is the way to go vehicle wise. I use trucks all the time. And i still have alot of doubts about the EV trucks coming out but we will see. Keep up all the great work you guys do. And I'll keep watching.
👆 This. I use trucks or my van a lot to camp and haul motorcycles. I'm curious about the new trucks coming out but not holding my breath. And I personally would hate the hour wait for a recharge, especially if I've got places I need to be or times to keep.
I'm impressed, much better than when you towed with the Tesla. Good Job Volkswagen.
Are you talking about when they towed the horse trailer with the Model X?
I am curious what abertterrouplanner calculated vs what you got
Id4 AWD is the one I’m looking forward to
I'm holding out for the EV6 from Kia. Best looking EV yet.
Andre @tflcar you mentioned downhill ike testing you will standardize on using cruise control for EVs. Curious though if any of the EVs cannot regen brake enough to slow vehicle (especially with heavier loads) and start to use friction brakes will all the vehicles tell you they are using friction braking? Just wondering if you will have a hard time standardizing on the number of brake applications used, if it comes to be needed.
As a German/Swiss, I regularly watch TFL.... TOP videos!!! but Andre is very special and funny, I'm always very curious, when he does a test, it's always in a very natural way... keep it up... Andre..!!!TOP Also the rest of TFL is a top team!!! The tests are fair, and it happens with standard vehicles, and that's very important, what might be even more interesting is a good-looking woman on the team, but someone with an engineering background, like us Germans do here. .. greetings from peaceful Switzerland.........
Thanks for the thoughtful comment!
Love these kind of reviews. Id.4 seems like a great all around car. Not just an EV.
Great EV towing video. But, since the ID4 is so big in back with the seats folded down, I would probably leave the trailer at home and sleep in the back of the ID4.
Or just bring a tent and camp like a pro
I love your towing videos. However, I would like to see one important change with your tow tests in the future, as towing with an EV is something that I am considering as an option in the future. Namely, I see you towing a 1700lbs trailer, which is good... but, I see what appears to be a completely unloaded passenger compartment in the tow vehicle itself. We travel with 4 people and a pop up camper, and that means most everything we bring with us apart from light bedding and our food... goes in the tow vehicle. We put a lot of stuff in the back of our pickup truck when we camp with our pop up! A test with both an unladen tow vehicle and a laden one would be a nicer test to know just how much additional reduction in range you can expect with a heavier load in the passenger vehicle while pulling the trailer.
I'd be curious to see the results when it goes up the IKE empty compared to this.
How about the winters in Colorado?? How will that affect the battery?
I love watching the Ike Gauntlet videos and even drove out there from Texas to see how my car would do but all of the jump cuts between the actual test and other segments about the trailer and the vehicle are VERY confusing. I hate clicking through the video and I know It hurts watch time but it's necessary just to follow the storyline. If the shots were reorganized showing prep and equipment, followed by the ascent, descent and final thoughts or ordered similar to that, I think it would make the video more enjoyable to watch and more helpful to understand exactly what's going on throughout the test.
Great video Andre. Does anyone know what GPS app is being used at 6:23?
Excellent job! I am looking at ID.4 for towing a bass boat. The trailer doesn't have power breaking. The weight is close to the max of the ID.4. Any suggestions?
Andrey great video! My question is always about family traveling. Can you test car with 4 adult in car? Also show baggage space, how AC or Heating works with mileage. Thank you
Like the car, never thought of it as a choice to tow a trailer. great video, thought it would get worst then 1.5 m/kw
& Andrey y didn't u use the decibel meter for the Raptor Exhaust video? Just asking 🤔
I wish they make it more apparent in future videos that this is test to see how much range you get per charge rather than a worry about battery dying. There were many points to recharge during the that trip so no being stranded situations. Just would take longer because of having to charge more often because of using more wh/mi.
Well done!!!
I see the trx as the camera vehicle. Did you take the f-150 powerboost also in case the need for a charge on the side of the road?
Good thing it was a camper trailer, I thought you were going to actually have to use it. Lol!
That's why the spare vehicle on the tow bar. 🤣
The on-screen graphic at 3:52 reads “Will Andre make it?” but a previous video showed him at his desk with a sign that said Andrey. Wondering how his name is really spelled since I often include it when I leave a comment. Honest question.
The climate will not be saved by private EV use as roughly 4% of emissions come from private vehicles, I do look forward to the future when they can compete on price and actual real world use for the average person.
@T.C. I guess you don't accept the scientific evidence that clearly shows our CO2 emissions are causing the planet to heat up
4% of emissions from the car itself. Not considering what it takes to get it there. Converting to solar homes and EVs is the way to go
I'm curious about whether you'd have better results leaving it in D for the freeway, and also how far you would actually have gone at the end since it was largely downhill. If you really want to compare ICE and electric, you should give the electric the chance to recoup some of the energy when you can. In my old LEAF, I've driven places that were net uphill and arrived below 50% charge. Then, driven home with range to spare because it's picking up watts on the downhill.
That is what he did. By putting the car into B mode it enhanced the regenerative braking. By keeping it in Drive, it would not have recouped as much power on the down hill section.
Also with the car being on cruise control, the coasting of D mode really doesn't matter, because the car manages the power itself. You could do the same thing by modulating the pedal, technically.
Thanks for the great test. I thought EV towing sucks after seeing how Tesla did. But you made it, Andre.
Only one question: Why taking the TRX as camera car not your hybrid f150 so you can charge it on the road
I live right in golden Colorado and used to own a 2013 Nissan Leaf. I’d regularly drive a short distance up i70 (about 6 miles, from the bottom of the mountain to the second exit) and it drained the battery by around 30%. That’s the leaf with a 100 mile range drained by 30% from 6 miles, granted its steep and I’d go 75 miles per hour, and on the way home I’d always gain a few miles.
Gotta love the little Tykes car in the shot.
Impressive range for towing.
Any plans to try the test with a mach E? I know it doesn't have a tow rating in the US but it does in Europe. Would love to see a trailer hooked up to one and see how it does.
A very good test. Well done. I think folks would benefit from a little more explanation of how the GOM (range estimator) does its calculations, based on a rolling "most-recently-driven" data sample. You can read on the EV forums, etc., how confused many people are about what the GOM tells them. I personally think it would be relatively easy programming to integrate the GOM with GPS, to more accurately forecast the remaining range based on upcoming terrain.
Also, Andre was still citing the *average* mi/kWh while on the climb. This is fine for general, all-condition driving, but if he was worried about whether or not he could make it to the top, he should have directed attention to the *current* mi/kWh, since that is the figure that is relevant at that exact point in time -- e.g., on a long, continuous climb, where you know the your current rate of energy usage will be sustained for a while.
I especially liked the explanation of how the Adaptive Cruise Control automatically optimizes the amount of regen while maintaining speed. For the record, I love the multiple levels of regen that the e-Golf provides, and I worry that the binary "D/B" provided by the id.4 will be a disappointment for me. I'll find out, once I get one. :-)
All in all, a very fair and through test & review. EV isn't for everyone, but realistic & honest reviews such as this one will help dispel myths on limitations, and affirm capabilites of what EV can & cannot provide to the general population. BTW, even the 1.8~1.9 mi/kWh is quite a bit lower than I get in my e-Golf -- presumably due to the extra weight of CUV form-factor, the 82kWh battery pack, and the towing. I can't wait to get into an AWD id.4!!!
Can you tell me what app you are using to track your progress? Thanks.
With gas engines we learned very quickly about 100 years ago that you need drive through fueling because of trailers, am I the only one that thinks we are getting more and more stupid as we go.
There's not enough electric towing yet to justify such installations
@@legrosroger But nations around the globe consider it the future and want to ban ICE in the name of environment so they should have thought of this. I mean 10-20 years is not that far.
@@dieselpreetsingh9544 There's enough time for that, drive-through charging stations is not much of a big deal to create
I don’t think it’s stupidity that designed the charger that way, I think it’s just cheaper. Money rules everything.
I think Tesla has those
Life on the edge. This is what it is all about.
does the VW Id 4 come with trailer brakes and which size tow hitch coupler did you have? thanks
First electric Ike...didn't you guys do the Ike in the Model X a couple years ago...?
Makes you wonder why it’s taking so long to get serious hybrid big rigs. The regen braking alone would be amazing, cut down on idling, no more cooked brakes, better off the line performance.
Once you reach a point your battery pack is charged, they switch to the standard brakes.
Trucks use Jake Brake and engine braking so, they don't cook brakes.
Buyers are scared of EVs and hybrids
There is one on the market, price is part of the issue, the other is CA going straight to EV which decreases initial demand.
It would be interesting to see the impact on the energy used if you were to change the trailer tire to one designed for maximum economy.
I've got the Skoda with the same specs as this id4. I can say as much as the B mode is not the most effective way to run any of these cars. Coasting as much as possible and using manual regen with the pedals on the steering wheel when it's suiting it more effective.
Good job. At least you guys did not plan it to fail like the video done with the Tesla pulling 5,000 pounds and no test run or DC fast chargers in route.
Cool.
Though, if you are going camping, how you gonna charge that vehicle? Especially if you go off grid, which most do.
Some hurdles have to thought of, though with this video hopefully the makers can figure out something.
The wheels look awesome at speed
We own an ID4, try it again in D mode. The car will use regen first, only applying the actual brakes once maxed out. We found much lower consumption on freeway trips that way! In town, B mode all day.
I had this same thought!
I am wondering if the flickering lights (headlights) are a camera artifact of if you are actually driving around with flashing lights
The toy car on the front of the trailer is a nice touch