The Agonizing Decline of F-Zero
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- F-Zero was once the most acclaimed racing game/franchise in the entire world. So much so, that even to this day, people consider it the pioneer of the genre, or at least the franchise that helped popularise it. In recent years though, the franchise has a whole has seen a devastating decline in its interest and reach. How did this happen? What caused one of the greatest franchises with all the potential in the world to now become one of the most forgotten. Today, we look to find out.
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F-Zero X - All I need is 30 Deaths
F-Zero X- Big Blue Decide in my Eyes
F-Zero GX - Credits Theme
F-Zero GXAX - ZEN (Aeropolis)
F-Zero Maximum Velocity - Title Theme
Mario Kart Double Dash - Peach Beach/Daisy Cruiser
Pokemon X/Y - Emotion
F-Zero GP Legend - Silence
F-Zero GX - Step 70's
Super Mario Kart - Donut Plains
0:00 - Intro
1:17 - F-Zero
3:15 - The Beginning of the End
5:09 - F-Zero X
7:04 - F-Zero Maximum Velocity
8:21 - F-Zero GX/AX
9:54 - Declining Sales
12:02 - F-Zero Last Stand
13:20 - Nintendo's Plans for F-Zero
14:40 - The people want another F-Zero... - เกม
Nintendo...If you're watching this, please release a new game. Even if its a HD remaster of GX or something. I demand it. Thanks
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Supposedly, there's another rumor of a GX Remaster and this YTer sounds really confident on it.
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Please, just an updated version of GX with a Map Editor !!
And I can guarantee most of us would be soooooo happyyy !!
F-Zero is so metal. It's fast pace, unforgiving, expects you to sacrifice health for speed (literally), and it rewards you for killing your opponents with skulls. It kind of has a super-hero over-the-top costume aesthetic, and the world feels both gritty and dystopian yet exhilarating and advanced. A remastered GX would definitely be the perfect way for Nintendo to test the waters on this franchise deserving a revive. And if they decide to make a full new game, I could see them leaning into the hard-core nature of the game. This ain't no Mario Kart. No Blue Shell going to save you now.
They tested the water a few years ago, they convinced an studio that made and F-Zero like game to port it to switch... It did not sell well.
@rifasclub I hope you're not talking about the game made by the indie studio that doesn't even have the same game mechanics as F-Zero
@@rifasclubBut it's great.
Such a shame that Nintendo struggles with 2 of its beloved space franchises. (StarFox and F-Zero). F-Zero is definitely more of a skilled based game, which for dedicated racing game players, would be a welcome challenge, especially after Mario Kart keeps introducing elements that make the game, ironically, more difficult for skilled players due to the lack of predictability. You can go from dead last to first place in one lap with the right luck.
That's part of the reason why Mario Kart is so popular, the accessibility is extremely high for anyone to get into it. F-Zero is the opposite, you better be prepared to fail over and over before getting the hang of it. I'm guessing a lot of people never gave it too much of a chance unfortunately.
"Harder for skilled players" is a way to say I suck at this but don't wanna say admit it; everyone has the same chance, why do you think the same people keeps winning in luck based games like black jack?
At least Metroid has never been in higher regard in terms of space franchises.
@@Legend-of-Kai I hated Double Dash for the catchup bullshit. It made it so much harder because it felt like CPUs cheated
As a huge fan of Capt falcon and GX, the higher skill ceiling and difficulty is both a point of attraction and contention.
To make it more appealing they'd def have to tune the gameplay a lot and dig hard into that super hero/ wacky racers vibe
Always going to be challenging tuning the gameplay of such a fast-paced hardcore game without losing what made it so unique in the first place. Maybe they could more forgiving modes or like you said wacky modes to appeal to a different audience or help ease the more casual audience into the game.
@@Legend-of-Kai I can see a "turbo" mode for players who want a challenge and a regular mode for people who just like playing around.
@@notsyzagts7967 yeah something like that would work well. Probably needs at least two modes, 1 more casual and 1 more hardcore to reach more people
one of the best parts of gx was making crazy cars in the garage with custom parts.
That's really interesting how it phased out like that, I always thought Miyamoto was trippin about not being able to innovate with the series, but those sales numbers are pretty bad for what they're used too from their A list franchises, so I get it now.
They never really branched too far out from the core gameplay. Problem was not many players kept coming back so it seems to have just fizzled out as a whole unfortunately.
@@Legend-of-Kai Yeah I get that now. Cause from that quote people always use from Miyamoto when he talks about not being able to innovate with the series, I always thought the issue was just that people thought the series was stale, not that it barely took off to begin with
Great video, I never let my hope for the series die. Hopefully that GX remaster rumor is real
We can all hope, I think that's a good step in the right direction. The switch as a whole has the popularity and power to revive franchises. A HD remaster would go a long way to bring some eyes back to this franchise.
I'm so glad F-Zero 99 is a thing because it finally got me to check out the franchise and now I want a new title so so bad. GX has to be the sickest racer I've ever experienced. Honestly, even just a remaster of GX with online play would be great, but I'll keep hoping for something new on the upcoming Switch successor.
Honestly, a remaster of GX on Switch like they did for Prime would likely boost popularity for a new game
Yep thats what I think as well...just being on Switch would be enough to bring a lot of eyes back to the series. Kind of like them releasing F-Zero X on switch online and stuff like that. But a HD remaster would do well, at least I'd hope so
@@Legend-of-Kai Especially since much of GX feels like it has aged fairly well, in the same way Burnout 3 has. It just needs a little bit of graphical upgrade, with the gameplay and sense of speed holding up very well.
@@Devdev009 It really does hold up well, the gameplay and even the aesthetic would still work in the current day. Maybe a touch up on the graphics like you said and a few additions added could definitely go a long way for the franchise. Here's hoping Miyamoto is here reading these comments 😌
F-Zero 99 may give the franchise the ‘Boost Fire’ it desperately needs.
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F-Zero was basically a franchise to show off Nintendo’s new powerful hardware
It’s not a coincidence that when Nintendo stopped caring about producing powerful console starting with Wii they stopped caring about F-Zero
Kindly disagree about it being Nintendo (necessarily) not caring - if you look further into it, lots of once-popular racing series have died off slowly on ALL platforms. I'm talking about Ridge Racer for example, Wipeout as well, Burnout too, Colin McRae Rally, Sega's Outrun... And even NFS while still around, is nowhere near as popular as it once was. These days it's all about sims (Forza & GT) or the casual Mario Kart. This isn't a Nintendo problem, this is a whole industry genre problem.
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Even the Excite series had a Wii installment, as did installments in a lot of other racing games in the 7th gen
Seems like convenient timing to drop F-Zero the moment they stopped caring about cutting edge hardware
@@am_pm.17 That's true. The PS3 was arguably the last console on which arcade racing games were still relevant.
Daytona USA's been gone since the Dreamcast. RR died out after RR7 on the PS3. Burnout died out after Paradise on the PS3. Outrun died out after Outrun 2006. Some of them died out after only 2 or 3 games like Juiced, Midnight Club, Cruisin' USA, or Street Racing Syndicate. It's interesting how, the further we went into the future, the more futuristic racing games like F-Zero and Wipeout disappeared. NFS is probably the last arcade racing game series standing, and Unbounded's failure is, IMO, the result of a general drop in quality since NFS: Most Wanted.
There were more recent attempts to make open-world arcade-style racing games such as The Crew. Haven't heard about that one in years, though. The last news I heard about non-NFS arcade racing games was Burnout Paradise Remastered from 5 years ago.
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There are a few indies trying to fill the gap, but they're not doing well enough.
The problem is there’s been such a drought in racing games that aren’t sim racers or kart racers (specifically futuristic racers if we’re talking about F-Zero) that its hard to read the market and see if something like this will sell well, I would personally hope so and F-Zero 99 might show some promise, but that leans too much into being more of a traditional kart racer imo
First time I discovered F-Zero was playing Captain Falcon in Super Smash Bros Brawl then I got a SNES Mini played the original F-Zero gams honestly it is a lot of fun to play its fast racing is awesome! And I love Science Fiction so it was a dream. Honestly I hope F-Zero makes a return one day because if done right F-Zero can come back because for now the Fans are keeping it alive kinda like Fossil Fighters Fans and Star Fox Fans despite not having an entry in a long time.
F-Zero is one of those franchises that still gets represented in other games like Smash and Kart. Honestly its crazy to think its been 20 years since the last entry...I wonder how many peoples first introduction to Cpt Falcon was in Smash. Honestly though its a good thing as it brings more eyes to the franchise and hopefully more fans. But we can only hope, that Nintendo follows up on F-Zero one day.
Did remember nine months ago that guy that spent $40,000 to ask a Nintendo for sequel on F-Zero
I did see that, crazy but as a fan of the series I can respect it. $40k is insane though...
@@Legend-of-Kai yeah, I got to respect his determination
Well if the fans want to have a chance to have a brand new F-Zero game, play and support F-Zero 99
I can see Miyamoto saying it's because they don't know what new to do with the series, but the obvious reason Nintendo has for not making new F-Zero games is because they don't sell well. Why would they put in the time and money to make a game that likely won't even make the amount of money put into the game?
Yeah the whole innovation thing is probably a nicer way to cover up the declining sales. Futuristic scifi racers and especially F-zero which was known to push the limits of each system it was on, definitely wasn't cheap to make either. Probably why they ended on two handheld games, cheaper and probably wanted to gauge interest in the franchise before stopping it
We have to accept the truth that the racing game genre in general, on all platforms, has slowly declined in popularity. Only simulators are keeping it alive nowadays.
Nintendo can't think of what to do with F-Zero yet puts out empty Mario sports games that don't distinguish them from older entries other than they have no content to offer
Well said
I agree, the problem, though, is that the Mario cast are icons in gaming and the Mario games are aimed at children, meanwhile, the F-Zero games are clearly too hard for children.
@@pokemus4600 plus, even the most redundant mario games tend to sold better than the best f-zero game
That's really frustrating, because most Mario games (usually the recent sports ones especially) I see may be polished...but they lack something more important: *passion*
Its definitely one of the strangest quotes you get from Nintendo "Oh we don't know where to go with F-Zero" yet even its 'competitor' if you will Mario Kart doesn't do too much innovation with each release. I guess it does come down to interest and sales. Mario Kart 9 could release as the exact same game as 8 with a few new courses, characters and karts and it'd be a best seller for sure. Unfortunately, the same can't be said about F-Zero games...sucks
Maybe add a "resurrection" mechanic where falling out of the course warps you back to an earlier point in the race at the cost of your machine energy. That, or add an "item game" to help players transition from Mario Kart or Wipeout. It also helps if F-Zero gets steering assist options or other similar accessibility options. Not only that, Nintendo can re-release X Expansion Kit, Climax or a new game with a course editor and an online sharing center for user-made custom courses.
Wow! These are all great ideas. I'd say maybe separate the items/lakitu mechanic as a different mode. Just to keep the more hardcore fans that want the raw challenging gameplay kept the same. But the other stuff to ease other people into the game is probably much needed. Essentially going from 200cc to like 500cc haha. Online course editor with sharing capabilities would be so awesome!
GX already did that in vs and practice mode tho. pretty sure time attack also had it
I'd like to add to these ideas by implementing Mario Kart's mini turbo mechanic where the more you drift, the higher your boost will charge until either your jet exhaust turns purple or a meter is completely full for you to release your boost.
@@BlueThunderO7 nice idea, but it should cost a bit of energy to perform tho instead of being free like it is in mario kart. obviously not as much as a full boost but still small energy cost would keep skill expression intact by preserving resource management
@@lssjvegeta7103Perfect.
Man, I LOVED F-zero Climax and GP Legend. It's a shame that F-zero Climax wasn't sold in the west, as it was a big step up in terms of graphics, game modes, racing mechanics, and music when compared to the previous GBA titles. The F-zero franchise will forever hold a place in my heart.
In 2021, Takaya Imamura said in an interview with IGN that F-Zero isn't dead; it's just hard to bring back.
Yeah...honestly it doesn't need a flashy comeback even just a HD remaster on switch I think would go along way. They've done it with other franchises already. They just need to bring some eyes back to it, before they go off and try and innovate on it
@@Legend-of-Kai I suppose you may be right about that. I'm just happy that Nintendo at least remembered Advance Wars.
@@treseancann1261 Seeing franchises like Advance Wars come back always fills me with hope for other forgotten Nintendo franchises.
@@Legend-of-Kai I hope for a new Excitebike, Wave Race, and 1080°.
@@treseancann1261 Excitebike and Wave race for me would be great. Never really got into 1080 unfortunately
F-Zero died because of skill issue
In all seriousness it's a shame how this series went out. I first played F-Zero on the SNES Classis and fell in love with it only to learn how the franchise ended up. I think the most obvious thing that Nintendo could do to bring back F-Zero is give it an online mode. Playing against real people instead of bots is a completely different experience and the player count could show Nintendo just how many people still love this franchise.
I had no idea GX did *that* poorly. It's a great game and while it doesn't beat the SNES original for me- it is a very close second. I think GX's poor sales may be that many players suffered from physical problems while playing. Anecdotal, but I do know several people who tried to play it when it came out, and they said they got motion sickness or had trouble keeping up with the screen.
That is an interesting theory at least! But it honestly does make sense, the game is incredibly fast and the lighting and motion effects could definitely lead to some less than ideal side effects. And while I knew GX didn't sell amazingly I was surprised when researching this video at just how poorly it did. Especially when its so beloved amongst the fans.
GX got Player's choice reprint to it. It wasn't as low as many say it was. Remember that Kirby Air Ride and Double Dash were also released at that time.
Actually hurts my heart that not to many people know f zero x I love this game and I truly believe it was the best racing game ever made ❤
*actual depression intensifies*
LOL I didn't wanna mention that I had just made a video on F-Zero after seeing your comment on my other video...
Me finding this video right after the last one: "THIS WAS MADE 7 HOURS AGO, PERFECT TIMING"
@@NickyvMLP Another dose of depression 😅😂honestly though I think my pitch at the end will stir something in Nintendo. Expect a new F-Zero by the end of this year. If it doesn't happen...its on me...
@Legend of Kai I've legitimately been hoping for a new F-Zero at every Direct for like 10 years. I've learned to just be happy when it finally arrives. (And that I'm glad I still have GX on the GC, and X on my phones emulator.)
@@NickyvMLP Good thing about GX especially is that its aged incredibly well. Even to this day it feels nice to play. I'm sure a new F-Zero would level up the series so much more though
I think part of the decline in sales might have to do with entire future racer genre dying out. A lot of 90's mainstays like pod, wipeout, extreme g, ect. followed the same trajectory.
Very valid point, I'm interested to see how an F-zero game would fair today
@@Legend-of-Kai I think it would succeed, nothing like the first game, but well enough to justify a revival. I was sure pikmin was dead, but fans rallied to support the feeler(the port of 3) to rescue it. I just don't think Nintendo is comfortable enough to even throw out a feeler(a port of gx) to even gauge interest.
@@ericp631 Yeah from the looks of it, I think they're worried or not willing to even try. Pretty sad considering its been almost 2 decades since a game came out for the franchise.
When I was a kid, I used to rent this game just to race on practice mode. That game was very relaxing.
You also forgot to mention that the F Zero anime also flopped in the West as well, with its dub only lasting 15 episodes on the FoxBox/4Kids TV block before getting canned
I remember watching the F Zero Anime growing up.
Who at nintendo thought it was a good idea to call the game "BS" F Zero Grand prix💀😭
I really hope they bring F zero back. Always wanted to try em out, especially GX. Hope the F Zero comeback is soon!
I was so close to making a joke saying "bullshit" in place of BS 😅
@@Chris_Thorndyke almost did it 😂
*F Zero 99 joins the chat
GX is the best racing game i have ever played.
I really hope they remaster it with a solid online mode.
I'm quite jaded with any news about a remaster or so from any rumors. That being said, despite the "low sales" the console ones have sold pretty okay. It's the handheld ones that have sold poorly, which is pretty ironic since the gba sold better than the GC.
For anyone saying that GX sold "poorly". Remember it got released at the time that Kirby Air Ride and Double Dash. Along with the fact that it got a "Player's Choice" reprint.
Definitely. GP legend and climax really were the final nail in the coffin so to speak. The GBA sold 4x the GC and yet the sales on the hand held F-Zero games after GX were awful.
It's hard to talk about F-Zero's decline without talking about the other futuristic racers that came out during the N64 era, like Wipeout and Jet Moto. Heck, even Star Wars Episode I Racer! People were actually getting burned out on futuristic racers. In the modern day, there is also the Fast series of downloadable titles on the Wii/Wii U/Switch that continue on the tradition.
Everyone says they love F-zero yet no one puts their money where their mouth is. Chibi-Robo was such a case.
Kinda hard for them to do, if Nintendo doesn't advertise it.
that's the Nintendo fan base in a nut shell if it's not pokemon, Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing or Splatoon they don't show up in numbers
Usually how it goes yeah. They'll say I love F-Zero but would have only ever played GX at their friends place or something lol.
Y'all said the same with Metroid and then Dread came out and sold past 2 million. The difference is that F-ZERO is more in demand than Chibi Robo.
Chibi robo zip lash was a mediocre platformer that had nothing in common with the original and was not at all what fans demanded. Can't be too surprised it did poorly
I really hope the developers who made Fast Racing NEO will be given the chance to make a new F-Zero game. They made an amazing love letter to the series with that game.
Nintendo always has this period where they ship off their games to other developers but when they don't sell well enough Nintendo closes up and the franchise enters a dormant state...
@@Legend-of-Kai Other F-zero successors are Redout 2, and Super Pilot on Steam.
Finally there is Aero GPX but won't be out til next year. th-cam.com/video/fK4FJA4xCR0/w-d-xo.html
I didn't even know there was an f-zero game for the gamecube
Haha it's usually the one considered the best in the franchise as well.
Anyone hoping for a modern F-Zero should definitely keep an eye on the indie title Aero GPX which is currently planned for release next year.
I also want to mention that the anime is surprisingly good and is my favorite video game adaptation.
The anime is definitely a sleeper that I'm sure a lot of people haven't seen. The opening theme goes hard...
Until that, they can always play RedOut 2. That game will definitely scratch your F-Zero itch once you get used to the controls.
@@BlueThunderO7 Redout 2 is a lot of fun. Very different in the controls, the tracks are much narrower and there are not so many racers as in F-Zero. Yet for all differences the feeling of high speed precision is quite similar. The game is beautiful too.
@@robertgamer3112 Much like F-Zero, RedOut 2 also has a pretty banger of a soundtrack.
i remember getting fast rmx just to scratch that f-zero itch. for sure getting both super pilot and aero gpx the MOMENT they fully release
Kinda feels like the games not doing well is a case of poor timing (every time a new one came out after the first one, it was either before or after Mario Kart since even the GBA had Super Circuit) and the series itself not being very casual friendly. While i'd love for the series to come back, I can't see it getting a new game without them severely handicapping what makes it good to begin with.
The biggest issue with any skill based racer like this compared to Mario Kart is that you can't just pop it in the console and have a fun time with other people who haven't played it before, they'll be confused and generally not have the ability to keep up with anybody who's played it for longer than a day. With Mario Kart even if you suck at the actual driving part, the wacky items and colorful locales keep casual players coming back and while that game has it's own skill, it is far less important to the enjoyment of the game than something like F-Zero.
first thing i hear of a new f-zero or hell even a remaster of an already existing entry i'm SO preordering that
8:49 bruh I remember playing one of these at a Dave & Busters when I was a kid and it was the only game I was playing! If I ever get some serious money I’m buying an AF cabinet!🙌🏽
What F-Zero needs is an open-world spin-off franchise where Captain Falcon is doing bountying and racing as missions.
Nice vid, would love to see an updated game like this. I’m sure there are a significant proportion of Nintendo gamers that wouldn’t mind a little difficulty, especially given the popularity of Odyssey and MKW etc.
Now I feel even more depressed..... It's freaking hard being an F Zero fan!
I would really love to see GX back in an HD remaster.
Its decline is similar to that of Fire Emblem, although Fire Emblem managed to turn things around and now they're breaking sales with each new entry, it seems F-Zero couldn't make it. And if the numbers are right with Climax, it's unlikely we're gonna see a new F-Zero soon.
Pico is an underrated character for sure
I'd say outside of Cpt Falcon and maybe Samurai Goroh, most of the F-Zero cast is underrated
Sci-fi / space theme franchises seem to struggle a lot in the market, both for video games and for animation. There are exceptions of course.
That's true! Metroid's a good example, for such a long running franchise thats a Nintendo Mainstay at this point, the total sales for the series are extremely low in comparison. Other franchises have single games that eclipse the total sales for Metroid lol
Oops and how could I forget Star Fox....
Sci-fi is a hard sell in general, a lot of sci-fi games/franchises are niche and only a few can achieve mass popularity like Halo, Mass Effect, Half Life, Portal, and some others.
@@ironfox4990 True that, always been a more niche subject matter. Its usually one of the better genres as well when you look at the games it produces.
@@ironfox4990 there are even very recent examples in animation such as Lightyear (Pixar) and Strange World (Disney) which have both flopped.
Ngl The decline for the series was very very sad
The only game that was recently released of F Zero is a re-release F Zero X on Nintendo Switch Online, However in the end even Mario Kart 8 would get picked over it.
I never thought someone would describe super Mario kart as "fun, casual, and forgiving"
Lmao well maybe not in relation to the rest of the Mario Kart series but compared to F-Zero for sure
get mario karted
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To be fair, the SNES sold one and a half times the amount that the N64 did
True! F-Zero in general was unfortunately released on some of the lower selling consoles like Gamecube. The final two games though that sealed its fate were released on the popular Gameboy advance and were the lowest selling games by a mile.
Great video! Honestly, I feel like if Nintendo played their cards right, they could renew interest in the franchise. Maybe they could release a remaster/remake of GX, like they did with Metroid Prime recently. I was kinda surprised with how much interest that remake had (in my area, the game was completely sold out and online scalpers were everywhere for weeks) and there really seems to be a audience who wants older games from that era. If they remake GX with a new coat of paint, perhaps a few extra maps or bonus features, and a nice $40 price, I would absolutely buy it, as someone who couldn’t play it on the original game cube. And from beyond that point, they could probably work with other studios or hire new talent to look at the series with fresh eyes and figure out the perfect way to refine and innovate the games. But this is also Nintendo so who knows lol
A HD remaster would go along way. I think Nintendo doesn't really just how popular the Switch is and its potential ability to revive whole franchises. I know they brought some of the older games back on the online switch thing but eh its not quite the same as a new entry even if its just a HD remaster with some new additions. But yeah I agree with pretty much everything you're saying. Yes remasters and such are seen as 'cash' grabs but lets be real its been 20 years since the last F-Zero...I'm sure a discounted price like you've said, new features, and updated crisp graphics would go a long way with bringing more eyes back to the franchise.
There is nothing quite like Fzero I hope it comes back
Despite redout 1 and 2 being more pure racing, it’s a worthy successor because it legit is the fastest racing game out right now
I wish. Well, thanks for the video.
If you don't mind, I'll go back to playing F-Zero GX story mode stage 3 for the 200th time and fail.
And we just got F-Zero 99.
I knew this was going to happen 😅
I really wish Nintendo would put alot of focus on other less popular franchises. This reminds me of how Sega focuses too much on Sonic and completely disregards franchises like Ecco the Dolphin, Ristar and Vectorman.
The basically just need to mesh and refine the X/GX formula and add more challenging maneuvers and possibly new combat mechanics and online multiplayer and it’ll sell like hot cakes
Also I say keep the difficulty of GX most video games these days aren’t truly difficult anymore
So 1) they auto kill the franchise with Mario basically
Explaining why 2) Miyamoto doesn't know what to do with it anymore
And 3) Nostalgia kicked me with these smash bros brawl flashbacks
4) I miss the franchise.
My hope is that F Zero 99 brings some new interest to the series that is significant enough for Nintendo to make a new entry, or get another developer to make one. I don’t want a GX remaster like many fans do because whilst it’s a great game it’s very tough for new players and could kill off a revival by putting people off. The challenging aspect is a key part of the series but it does need a better balance
otherwise it will just stay niche. The weak soundtrack also disappoints me and some of the tracks are visually samey tbh. Mute City, Casino Palace and Lightning all being at night is too much imo
F-zero needs a remaster as much as Mother 3 from the earthbound series...
They could remaster the whole Mother trilogy tbh...would be great addition. I guess they've already released beginnings but still
Okay hear me out. Captain Falcon has become defined by Smash Bros basically, right? And his backstory is that he's a bounty hunter. How about they make an F-Zero game that includes both driving and beat-em-up aspects? And make it story focused. Not mature necessarily, there doesn't need to be blood or anything. But just make him and his world interesting, while making gameplay fun and engaging. They could pull a Breath of the Wild and change the formula up entirely
imagine a yakuza style captain falcon centric f-zero game that also has some races. that would be dope
What annoys me is Nintendo STILL DOES THIS EVEN TODAY the advance wars reboot flopped because not to long after it's release, here came Zelda TOTK a week after it, why do they not understand release stuff separately to not eat into another IPs sales?
This makes me want to NOT buy another Mario Kart ever again! At-least not until they finally make a new F-Zero!
I can understand why A new F-Zero on Wii wouldn't have been such a good idea with motion controls and "limited" hardware etc,
but if Nintendo gave a damn about me buying a Wii U, they would have made a new F-Zero on it!
Basically me for the next console. If Star Fox doesn't get a new release on switch or isn't announced for the next console then I'm not buying
F-Zero is basically the Salty Spitoon and Mario Kart is the Wienie Hut Jr (If you’re familiar with SpongeBob Memes), at least that’s how I always thought of them since they’re both racing games but play vastly different, I wonder what Kirby Air Ride would be in my analogy
But all jokes aside it really did seem like Nintendo themselves were sabotaging F-Zero by releasing it after Mario Kart with N64 or in the same year (2003) with GX, Double Dash and again Kirby Air Ride, I wonder if DD affected Air Ride’s sales as well. Another example I can think of is Warioware Get It Together releasing a month before Mario Party Superstars and that kind of affecting its sales too because everyone is gonna play Mario Party and that particular game was a return to form with mini games from across the whole series, but I digress.
Good video in my opinión
Thanks lmao
@@Legend-of-Kai You Welcome
I blame Nintendo for not advertising GX enough. I was a huge fan of X but didn’t find out about GX until well after release, had to grab a used copy.
But the bigger sin here is not releasing a lazy port of GX to the Switch’s enormous install base, this might have been the best for opportunity the franchise’s revival and they blew it.
F-Zero needs to return so BADLY. I don't understand how they pour out Mario Kart (specifically MK8) so darn much, but not this much faster-paced series. I mastered all three of the home games.
Of all the Nintendo franchises represented by fighters in Smash, the three most painful ones to be fans of are Donkey Kong (particularly country), F-Zero, and Ice Climber. I am a fan of all three.
Showcasing 4:3 ratio games stretched to 16:9 should be a punishable crime
Speed racer was cool but I wish they would make an fzero movie. All about blue falcon taking down samurai goro. And samurai goro stealing the fire stingray which is faster because it was supposed to replace the falcon mobile or something. And so he has to out driver samurai goro to win as a result
GP Legend and Climax sold poorly because the F-Zero anime ,dubbed by 4kids, was canceled due to poor ratings. Only 26 out of 51 episodes were dubbed. Because of this, Climax was a Japan exclusive which only made things worse for the IP.
The views this video got in comparison to the videos prior and after to this one is just salt on the wound.
I agree that was a HUGE mistake to release GX so close to Mario Kart Double Dash, as I own some magazines from the time, they were hyping a lot Mario Kart Double Dash wit front covers, posters, adds and top reviews, in one of the magazines at the starting seccion they dedicated 2 pages prasing Double Dash and how different it is from the previous games, and in the last part of the magazine they dedicated only one page to GX and they were highly unfaiir to it, they said "it's the same game as the N64 version but the only added eye candy graphics" they barely mentioned the story mode, saying it was "boring" and they gave the game a middle score, it is very sad to see how GX was mistreated on those magazines
Very sad to see, especially considering just how good GX is at the end of the day...definitely deserves better
@@Legend-of-Kai Yes it's very unfair, now that we know some reviewers weren't too skilled in gaming, I assume the reviewers that wrote those negative articles probably couldn't win races and even less a cup, since this game requires a high skill to win races , I'm sure they punished the score for this reason and they probably didn't got far in the Story mode missions
@timedasher hahaha you're probably right to be honest. They gave up after 2 races or something
@@Legend-of-Kai Lol agree, I'm sure they were expecting an easy game with all those shiny colors and comic book character designs, in my case I got lucky and could play the arcade a couple of times it was a real blast and unique experience
i got a little hope, now that Mario Kart 8 has been with us for as long as it has, and no real other first party racing games releasing that aren't either dressed down or 1 to 1 clones of mario kart.
and with the rise of brutal difficulty games that defined a genre, perhaps this is a way in for F-zero.
if they manage to market it correctly.
then again, Nintendo themselves aren't known for extreme difficulty in games.
who knows, maybe...
The problem with gx is only people familiar with the others in the series tried it.
Put F Zero GX on the switch and add online multiplayer
Building your owner Racer and Vehicle and then battling people online would be absolutely amazing
We kinda got that
I think there is still plenty of room for innovation for the series. It just needs to be in the right hands. The difficulty is it's main gimmick similar to dark souls. It's what brings people to it. I think if they double down on the difficulty and add to that, it would do much better in terms of variety. Adding more obstacles, more chaotic features. I liked the ability to destroy other racers so lets build upon that. Destroying the environment around you to destroy the racers in death race, add lasers to the cars or just something more to add to the concept.
I think this might be more controversial but do something similar to star fox adventures where we see captain falcon outside of the car. His appearance in smash has made him more known for fighting than racing at this point so maybe some beat em up mechanics. Idk just something to set the series apart from mario kart while still sticking to the roots.
My favorite mariocart tracs and carts all come from F- Zero
and Nintendo refuses to put him in mario kart. he would be perfect. Just rename mario kart and give it a Nintendo themed name that has all its characters like super smash brothers does for fighting.m
Would be interesting to see if they'd ever do that. I think the name 'Mario Kart' holds such a highly established name by this point, that I'd doubt they'd ever rename it to something else in fear of sales dropping. Would be super cool to see more Nintendo characters in it though...Nintendo Kart
I've always genuinely hated the idea of Nintendo Kart. Nothing wrong wuth crossover characters and courses, but the focus should always be on Mario.
As much as I love f-zero, I too wouldn't make a game I can't make money out of
At least we got Fast RMX
this would be the perfect time to release f zero since mk8 is coming to an end of its life cycle
Remake or hd release of gx would be nice
Have you played XF Extreme Formula yet? That game makes me be able to let go of F Zero, because it is F Zero.
Only the demo is available right now, but this demo is PACKED and it gives me confidence to day one purchase it.
You should do rise of xenoblade.
Definitely on my list!
This was a hell of a year to make this video huh?
Such a shame this franchise had the decline it did because the games keep getting better! F-Zero Climax was definitely an improvement from F-Zero GP legend. The same goes for F-Zero GX from F-zero X, even though I prefer the latter, but that's beside the point. Now I see why Nintendo released the F-Zero 99 in the SNES style rather than make a new game and why smash bros recently kept alluding to the SNES games and it makes sense from a sales standpoint as that's the most popular F-Zero game. Though, I do hope we see a new entry in the franchise because it might end up being the best one since F-Zero has a lot to catch up on, such as online multiplayer, track editor (for overseas) etc.
7:39 did he dark souls? Or did he die? Yeah, he died.
well we at least got fast rmx
They should really release a game made for the Switch that might sell bad instead of letting studios port over games like Grip Combat Racing that runs like shit on that hardware.
To the people who miss F-Zero - play Wipeout, guys
WHY is this game NOT on the Switch.
Tbh I had so much more fun with F-Zero X than with Mario kart 64
the guy who made gx/ax even said he wants to make the sequel. I say let him.
All it takes are a few streamers calling it the Dark Souls of racing and BAM, sales again.
Hahaha so true
I’ll enlighten you on a different alternate reality:
_”In F-Zero Awakening you can romance the racers and Captain Falcon's lines all were localized into Falcon noises by Nintendo Tree House. You can choose a Bounty Hunter, walk around cities and catch criminals and beat up thugs. You can do lots of missions GTA style in this Spectacular F-Zero game, besides just racing for prize money. And yes you can Falcon Punch Criminals but you gotta go out of your way unlock it along with other fighting moves”_
_”Fire Emblem: Climax would be the last FE game and it would be a Japan only release, due to the anime tie in not doing too hot despite the massive push it got”_
Yep most fans of “dead” franchises tend to have hate boners series like FE, Splatoon and Xenoblade IG
@@DDKoD Well it’s mostly due to Smash that FE is looked down upon, Splatoon earned it’s popularity on its own merits without Smash and I don’t see much hate for it, Xenoblade could go on to be the next thing to receive hate boners if it gets tons of characters at once within a single Smash game.
@@squallleonhart9387 It’s not just about Smash dude. There are people(again fans of discontines series) that dislike those 3 series cauae they’re getting games as opposed to other series that stopped selling.
So basically, Mario Kart killed the F-Zero franchise.
Ironic
The contradiction of GX being so highly regarded but not selling well reminds me of what happened with Street Fighter 3 Third Strike. Maybe it wasn't actually received too well by old school fans at the time but over time it has become more and more highly regarded by the increasingly numerous younger fans who make their opinions heard online. You also have the Sega contingent online that loves to brag about any game they can associate with Sega development and/or a Sega console (and they love the irony of claiming that Sega did one of the Nintendo's franchises better than Nintendo in the case of F-Zero GX).
Nowadays most Street Fighter fans in online polls and TH-cam videos will tell you that 3rd Strike was the best SF and yet when you go back in time, the SF3 games didn't sell well. They just didn't strike the same chord with most people that SF2 and later on SF4 did. The same may be true with GX. It doesn't help either that the Gamecube was such a flop. That's why the most impressive numbers you laid out were Mario Kart 64 selling more than Super Mario Kart even though the N64 flopped so hard in Japan. Mario Kart continues to be a powerhouse seller no matter how well or how poorly (Wii U) a Nintendo console does.
So, 49% of the users who answered your poll said "hell yes" to a new F-Zero game. Not bad.
But, what Nintendo would see are the 37% who said "no lol", the 13% who said "what's F-Zero?", and the 1% who didn't care enough about F-Zero to answer. 37%+13%+1% = 51%. 51%>49%. Therefore, Nintendo would conclude that F-Zero couldn't survive these days, unlike their rainmakers like Mario, The Legend of Zelda, and Pokemon.
In short, they'd just spin these stats into a negative to fit their narrative.
The F-Zero series has been dead for almost 20 years! Seriously Nintendo, please for a love of God give us the new F-Zero game!