BMW 7 Series | Making Sense of Excess
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2024
- We discuss the new 2024 BMW 7 Series. We list the pros and cons of how BMW implements technology, features, and design and drive the plug-in hybrid variation of this $140,000 Luxury Sedan. While other vehicles are in this segment, like the Lucid Air, Tesla Model S, Audi S8, Mercedes S Class, and Porsche Panamera, the BMW has many configurations that suit most tastes.
#cars #technology #business
Index:
00:00 Interior Exterior Impressions
5:03 Mechanical Impressions
10:14 Driving Impressions
18:02 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Jack: You're not wanna own this thing in five years
Me: I don't wanna own it now
accurate
Biblically accurate 7 series
Why make a keeper car people will hold 5+ years if you can make a disposable touchscreen strip-club on wheels that people will turn in every 2 years? As long as you can wow China with gimmicks...
@@rosgoncharuk2403Chaina bad. Much komie
ROFL, counter breaker!
The fact it has a check engine light on ALREADY !!! Blows my mind
Break My Wallet doesn't disappoint.
gErMan eNGiNeEriNg
Doesn't necessarily mean there are any real issues
@RayanMADAO honestly, my 10 year old sentra also has random check engine lights that don't mean anything. Sometimes it even starts blinking and my car shakes aggressively. I just shut if off and walk to work. No big deal.
@@holyapple261 but for a new car, that’s not normal. That’s expected of an economy class 10 year old car, but for a $100k+ sedan…. not so much
"the car your dad's boss fired him from" 💀
I could taste the 'passive' narcissism of the boss doing the firing; and I love it.
The CEL and the cupholder cover coming off at 3:35 were the chef's kiss! LOL
Oh my Lord I didn't notice the cupholder. Simply stunning.
@@Syncopiathe driveclub profile picture goes hard, I wish they remastered Driveclub for the PS5
That’s a $2000 option, sir.
Ha. I had that happen when I looked at one at a dealership. I just set it down and walked away.
@joelbolton7252 - Timing it perfectly with "again, it's about luxury" just set that B-roll apart 😂
I've always said "gosh, I love my car but I feel limited in the number of ways I can open the door", so this is perfect for me.
LOL
Exterior styling might be subjective but my God, this is atrocious.
Judging by the other comments, it might actually be objectively ugly. Someone mentioned the Pontiac Aztec, another vehicle that was objectively ugly.
Looks awesome from the right angles. you probably wont ever drive one let alone sit in one anyways. enjoy your camry
I'm actually enjoying my honda very much, thank you.
@@adammaki9066"the right angles" bro it just looks ugly 💀
@@adammaki9066Here come the narcissistic rat racers as usual. Enjoy your inferiority complex.
The engine light on at 3k miles is peak BMW.
I’m actually impressed
I can't wait to buy one of these for $8K in a few years to use in my garage as a meditation capsule using the two to three things that still work in it, which won't be the drive train, air ride, or most the screens, but hopefully that soothing voice thing still works.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are a funny guy 😅
youre goddamn right, an 8k private room with tremendous audio system and sexy ai to answer your question sounds a focking deal
😂😂😂
The front seats & the Captain seats at the back will be the highlight of the living room.
Massage, cooling & heating for the cat. The cat will love it!
3:30 - I love how "it's about luxury" is the comment as the cupholder cover pops off.
It's an exclusive feature you won't find in any other car.
i was just looking to see if anyone else caught that, fucking hilarious
BMW tech here. Just got done spending almost all day to pull an intercooler out of one of these to find that they didn't snap an evap hose connector together all the way, causing a MIL at like 2k
I watched this wearing a Patagonia jacket. I felt like we had a real connection.
The depreciation will certainly be making cents of excess.
Definitely get rid of it in 2yrs oh my the modules that will break.🤦🏿♂️
No different than any other high end luxury car.
Now that's a comment!😂
First thing Mark said was this is a lease vehicle.
@@MurseTech64 Not true. Massive depreciation is very German and British thing. The Lexus LS hold its value the best among high end luxury saloons.
As a 7-Series owner (G11/G12), I want to implore all of you to only lease, never own. If not for the MaxCare warranty, my 26 months of ownership would have already cost me $38K in maintenance.
Sheesh , did you own from new
How the hell did you end up with $38K in maintenance in the span of 26 months? Did you shred some tires? Consume the brakes? Used it as an Uber and put 100k miles? It just doesn't add up.
Which engine? 750i?
@@hermit527 2:30 in and SG is talking about a CEL. Doesn't seem wild to imagine, to me!
Americans with their "I'll lease it for 3 years so I don't have to take car of it" wasteful mentality that leads to expensive cars braking down strike again. It's your fault that all luxury cars in the USA have about 10x worse reliability statistics and breakdown rates than they do in Europe, or the rest of the world. Same exact cars. It's also why they depreciate so much faster in the US than anywhere else. I wouldn't buy an expensive car owned by an american either.
We have a 740d in my family with over 450,000 km right now, apart from a few paints chips on the front, swirl marks and a bit of shine on the steering wheel and seat leather, the car drives, looks and feels like it left the showroom this morning. Nothing, and I mean nothing, ever went wrong with it in over 9 years of ownership. Regular servicing in the BMW dealership (which was free for the first 5 years btw), fuel and tires is all the expenses related to it. And the car spends most of the time sitting on the autobahn traveling at really high speeds, so it's not babied.
61 year old many time BMW owner here, so I'm somewhere in the vicinity of the target market for this car. My verdict:
Appalling.
Remember the classy models of yore? Those days are just a memory.
We have had at least 1 BMW in our household for the last 26 years but the newest one is 17 years old.
I’m like you. In my 60s, owned several BMWs in the past. Won’t consider one now. I turned into a Porsche and Lexus guy.
@@Closertotruth2 Completely agree
@@Closertotruth2 I had a 1999 Volvo S80 and loved that car, the seats were incredible, cant stand what Volvo has become either.
The Geese honking in the background make this video complete.
Yes. The geese were laughing their beaks off at this Ugly Duckling!
Every time i see one of these on the road makes me wish id taken another road
😂
🤡
Just because then you realize that you are so poor.
@@MauriceBln1 It's not the realization that I'm so poor (I am) It's that someone with absolutely awful taste is that much more successful financially than I am lol.
@@b3dazzl3 People who drive these usually have more money than brains, or no money and no brains
Came off the show room floor with the check engine light pre lit
A check engine light doesn't mean something is broken. Learn this, don't be stupid. It's a warning for about 1000 different possible situations.
$2000 feature
Regardless no new car should have a check engine light after 3k miles. Especially not a press car
@@zeoh4371 It's something so minor it doesn't affect anything and can be whitelisted in the infotainment. Even warnings will trigger a check engine light.
That's the 7 series magic.
The amount of grace given here is surprising. I don’t care if I’m leasing it or not, a check engine light and pieces of trim, brand new, is unacceptable at this price point.
The ultimate lease machine
*leaking lol
Beautiful
Damn the exterior looks like DUMPSTER FIRE. Seriously.
How?
They're still talking about Chris Bangle. Clearly, the herd has rendered its opinion....dumpster fire. @@EndeavorsDnB
Never jealous when I see one on the road. Just perplexed as to why this was chosen by the owner.
Because they can.
Yeah they're close to affording a Porsche sedan or SUV and yet they pick this ugly sedan.
That front end is hideous... I'll take a late 90s 740iL over this any day!
Ha! My first thought was “Man, I miss the E38 7-series.”
That was by far the best generation 7 series!
For me, that was peak BMW. I still love the late 90s/early 2000s 3-series. For me, BMW died after that generation. That hadn't been a single model since then that resonated with me to any meaningful degree. I'm sure I'll get flack for that comment, but it is what it is. Nothing compares in terms of smoothness and symmetry.
@@erranzimmermann1207 I wouldn’t go that far. They lost consistency, but they still have the occasional nice-looking car, like the E90 coupe or the 2nd-gen X5. But before that they had hold model lines that looked good.
Most sane people would agree with you
It’ll be an awesome pimpmobile in polychrome paint 6 years from now, and nicely “stanced” when the airbags crap out.
That front end. Lord. Darth Vader wants his helmet back.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
BMW should fire their designers..
I get it, but the designers aren't the root problem. The executives who signed off on this excrescence are the problem.
The ugly designs are selling well. The majority of BMW buyers care more about the interior luxury, tech and driving dynamics.
I think most new BMW cars look like shit...but they sell well so it does appeal to a large audience so in that way they're good at giving what their customer base wants. Me personally I'd never buy a BMW simply cause I think they look incredibly ugly
@@zarbon700 BMW has good designs that sell well. X1 X3 X5 3 series and 5 series. These suck X2 X4 X6 2 series and 7 series.
I think they did. This looks like it was designed by Ai.
That thing really looks like crap on the outside
In traffic it kind of looks cool. Very distnictive beside other cars on the road. The E65 looked way uglier when it came out.
@@2iii7it's just big and the bigness is what turns heads
But stunning on the inside
It's hideous
I dunno I’ve seen better looking turds
Exterior is terrifying; interior looks incredible; screens will never not look completely generic.
As someone said the inside looks like a stripclub
just making sure you guys are reminded that what makes this channel special is the technical details and genuine effort and care that you guys put in. i appreciate it!
Along with equal parts snark and brutal honesty. My favorite part is the description of the stereotypical buyer of each car they review. Like who pays $140k for a luxury BMW that goes from 0-60 in 4 seconds? No doubt some rich business owner that needs to get to the airport or get to work to probably fire some people because they need more money. They aren't trying to make a good investment, they don't love the car for the car's sake because they're a car lover like a Porsche buyer.
you mean the dumb guy that likes every bmw, and says b58 every video?
LMAO... pickleball reference. There's a town pickleball court right across from my house, and a 70-year-old dude comes to play every day driving his 7 Series.
check engine light is awesome
These iPad style dashboards give me nightmares.
laughing so hard when that artist audio recording came on
Chris Bangle even says, “Christ this is hideous “
Don't use God's name in vain!!
@timpoortinga7689 Oh shut up.🙄 It's not even in vain you dunce, this car is ugly.
god being chris bangle of course@@timpoortinga7689
You worship Christopher Bangle too. Peace be with you my friend. They'll join us in time. @@timpoortinga7689
Chris Bangle design for the 3 series and 5 series still looks modern today.
Okay that heavily accented Asian "assistant" voice was definitely BMW tipping its hand about this cars focus. That's assuming you didn't notice the styling cues getting in. I've enjoyed this review, btw.
Everything works so well, even the check engine light.
I'm too dumb to understand the audio system graphs. Has SG ever explained how to interpret those?
It’s common knowledge.
@@suspicionofdeceitno. No it's not
We need to update it but here is the intro. th-cam.com/video/2RB7otNfB1I/w-d-xo.html
A more flat curve is generally desirable as it means the the lows, mids, and high audible frequencies of sounds are heard at a similar volume. This is a flat response. Being able to then tweak with EQ makes for a good sound system.
Sometimes, there will be peaks or valleys in desirable places, but this can pigeon hole the sound, making it less versatile/authentic. A crappy sound system with not be flat, will have peaks/valleys in undesirable spots or be bass heavy to compensate.
If you also pause the video and read the blurb when the test results are on screen, there is a brief analysis of the results.
That amazing sound system is to help drown out thoughts of how you just spent your kids education fund on a pile of 💩
Dad: I got some bad news son... I'm sorry but you won't be able to graduate next year..
Son: 🥺 Why? How come?!..... I... I don't understand...
Dad: its the bimmer...One of the screens has check engine light !!
It was designed for Chinese market - that's all you need to know.
Exactly!
What’s your point exactly?
That doesn’t really tell me anythinh
@@KJVirander That different markets have different preferences in design.
@@air-headedaviator1805 too bad
This car will keep BMW techs busy for years. Trickle down economics.
This is especially grotesque when you think back to how great the 7 series looked in the 90's, 2000's.
The 2000s?? 😂😂😂😂
@@bassandtrebleclef OMG Becky! He used an apostrophe improperly in a TH-cam comment section!🤓
We bought one last week for my wife as a daily! The kids love the 32inch tv in the back, the interior is phenomenal and the ride quality is absolutely awesome! Great car.
3:33 true luxury.
The BMW dealer in my area is offering about 30K off the tag for these piles right now. I think we've reached two milestones: 1) nobody, not even the wealthy, want to be bent over on price anymore; and 2) modern BMW's have the worst exterior styling (and arguably interior) of any major manufacturer.
This car looks like a bad migraine.
*Is* This car IS a bad migraine.
The 5 series is way uglier, had seen both, and the 5 series makes me puke more
Ouch 😂😂
@@35ze4ir literally
This car makes Chris Bangle look like Michelangelo.
opening doors with voice command or nontouch handgestures. just hold your hand over a sensor by the handle like those foot activated lift gates... theres more ways to over complicate this! we can do it!!
😂😂 Just put the giant price tag below the tail lights and people will just move out of the way... no need for useless indicators
@@afrostigmeister the number series and sub model number times $25k is the MSRP. and every time you start it up, announces the price using a Cortana-like AI voice, over the electronic speaker. you can pay for celebrity voice overs, subscription based, of course.
Aztec Sedan
You're onto something
So an unreliable garbage like the w223 is better? Go sit in your Toyota
The manufacturer nameplate on the lower driver b pillar was not applied straight. That immediately triggers my slapped together everywhere else warning system
It proves to me again, how beautiful my Dads 1990 7 series was. White paint on black leather of a quality unknown today. He lend it to me for a trip from Germany to Italy. The italian girls went crazy. Good times 😁
Externally, that is absolutely hideous. It’s a no from me straight away.
S class has the looks but don’t hope for that to be more reliable than this, my mechanics has many w223s in his shop, it’s overrated garbage to own
15:21 THIS is the most accurate summary of what I felt in the rental BMWs I drove recently. The brake pedal feel is horrendous, synthetic, and non-linear. I simply could not stop smoothly. You get the feeling that someone is between your brake pedal input and the brake discs, always adjusting and altering the input in an entirely random way. It will suddenly grab and brake harder than expected then the auto start stop will engage and kill the engine when you simply didn’t want to stop completely and rather just crawl. It was an absolutely awful feeling.
This car is the real 6000 SUX, if you remember RoboCop.
But does it have a button for the button that unlatches the door?
I lost it at 13:35 when Mark & Jack were driving like maniacs while listening to "BMW Art Mode" pre-recording. Love the videos!
The smooth jazz of tranquility and serenity with comfort. lol you guys nailed the intro for this type of car review😂
Had the pleasure of driving the 760i for a few months, the highway mpg was excellent. The ride, comfort, engine power, etc was excellent but as you said, the braking needs work. I was uncomfortable driving in stop and go traffic and size is too large for parking and garage space. Other than that, it is an excellent machine. Great review!
Is it quite noisy for a quiet car, or am I regaining my hearing?
love you guys, nice work. EVERYONE that worked on these videos.
We need a link to a video explaining the audio SPL graphs. I understand the graph shows frequencies from left to right but I’m not really getting any usable information there.
Also thanks for including Genesis as one of the cars in this segment. I feel like reviewers are still honed in on the Mercedes, Audi, BMW trio and Genesis has some legit cars and SUVs that are up there in quality along with those three. They might not be the best in some areas, but they can be a legitimate option in the segments now that should be considered.
Can we have an entire episode to jack talking about the b58? Lol
Love the intro music. 70’s feel.
These are all over the road where I live. Every time I see one I have a visceral reaction.
I feel powerful watching this!
I'm sorry to hear that.
Patagonia and RayBan influencers making top quality car content. 👏
Think you guys struck a really nice balance in this video between the humor/jokes and substantive discussion on the car. Appreciate you being able to put the stigmas and stereotypes aside during much of the shoppe and driving segments, and the jokes that did invoke the stigmas/stereotypes made the video feel lighter and less serious without crossing the line of professionalism. Hope to see this approach in future videos.
I got to see this at the Chicago auto show. Like many, I was skeptical just watching videos and seeing a couple on the road. In person it has a great presence and the fabric seats felt amazing
The exterior of the 7 series is artless. The interior is chintzy as hell.
The 8 series Interior is the only remaining BMW model that doesn’t look like the cost accountant got to wear the strap on at the final product planning committee meeting.
Thanks again Jack and Mark, without this review I may have considered trading in my Hyundai Kona to purchase one!
Nice review as always. One thing I wish you could add if possible is a review of the safety features on these big sedans and SUV's.
Can't decide between this and a 2009 Avalon. Recommendations?
One of those cars where you say "look, somebody bought one."
I literally said that when I 1st saw the 4 series on the street
😂
This looks like something out of RoboCop
That would be the 6000 SUX.
That’s fitting for 2024.
the Ultimate Douche Machine
Squirting on the commoners until it breaks down.
@@suspicionofdeceitthe S class w223 has more problems than this, my MB mechanics has many of those in his shop, an overrated garbage of an S class that is
@@seansiew5629 What’s crazy is both BMW and Benz made some great luxury vehicles in the past, very classy and beautiful design. Hopefully the giant screens trend will die in the next decade.
Great video, I sat in the back of the new 7 last year and the seats were soooo comfortable!
I love that car. Recently drove it from Munich to Berlin and back for a weekend trip. It’s an amazing driving experience. I love a great sportscar that is light and has moderate power like the alpine. But for day to day living the luxury experience is the most enjoyable. I would take this over any other sedan. I even like the looks of it. It’s daring and got great presence. Driving on the autobahns left lane makes everyone give way as soon as they spot you in the rear mirror.
10:06 “that is an interesting approach”. Yes, and Betamax was an interesting approach too. And so were HD DVD.
the designer saw the multipla and saw it as a challenge to beat
Multipla sedan!
This makes the Bangle era 7 series look beautiful in comparison.
How are you guys not the top car channel on TH-cam? I don’t have the desire nor the funds to buy a 7 Series, yet here I am watching this review and being thoroughly entertained.
The check engine light in BMWs is a feature
As a viewer since day one, once again informative videos and excellent production quality with no B/S!
No one cares Devan
Will we get used to this like the e65? It's been out for a while and it still looks bad to me.
This is apt and relevant consumer buying advice!
The head designer has been playing too much Cyberpunk 2077. 😂
Even the vehicles in that game are more decent looking than this
Can you guys explain what you mean by a "lease only vehicle"? Is that due to depreciation, reliability, repair cost, all of the above?
All of the above.
They say the same thing about every single Luxury car!
He means - Statistically most people lease
@@kevm243true, and they are correct! Except for Lexus.
It's the american way of saying "i have more money than IQ points". That's what it means. Buying an expensive car that you can't afford to maintain, so you get rid of it before something goes wrong after not taking any care of the car whatsoever. Most of these people don't even know oil needs to be changed in the engine, let alone anything else.
I hope I will get to see IN THE SHOPPE section of the updated Tesla model 3 (so called “Highland”) from you guys. So many reviews just says it’s better than the out going one but barely any of them dive in to the same depth in engineering as you guys. Great video as always and keep them coming!!
As crazy as it sounds to say it, I'd take a Genesis G90 with its potential reliability, glitz, and glamor over any similar car in this price range. The mandatory check engine light in the BMW after only 3000 miles in your sample car is enough for me to steer clear of any German brand.
True luxury also includes wasting the absolute minimum amount of MY time at the dealer.
Thank you again for a fair and honest assessment of another car.
@japanwatchconnection which means it's a reliable car that won't have the check engine light permanently on.
I heard BMW signed a partnership with LingLong tires for this model
This will be $5k on the buy here pay here lot in 10 years
I want my bedroom to look as good as that interior. The goofy geometric panel on the dashboard is oddly beautiful.
Any thoughts on the 5 series touring to America?
Mmmm the BMW CCP Mobile. Does it come with tik-tok pre-installed?
no but it records all your convos and data and uploads it to CCP headquarters server.
For those in Silicone Valley or Beijing that have moved beyond Tesla…
Turning on post notifications. I keep missing your videos, Dezoris!)
hiJACKed in the shop, thanks for all the technical info, great video!
When you want the best reviews you come to Savage G
Appealing to Chinese tastes has been a disastrous mistake for the auto industry.
Sadly that is where the money is. We westerners are not at the geopolitical and economic spot we were 20 30 years ago.
@@TDCIYB77not sure that’s the case anymore, with the Chinese markets currently contracting. Cars like this were designed at a time when the Chinese economy was still growing rapidly, but it should be interesting to see if styles change over the next few generations, following the most recent economic developments
China may be the biggest market for luxury cars but don't forget that America is a close 2nd despite having nearly a fourth of the population
I wish I could like this 1000 times.
China isn't the only society where flaunting wealth with expensive vehicles - that you may or may not actually be able to afford - is a social requirement. Here in British Columbia the Chinese and Indian communities are constantly competing for the most ostentatious and vulgar displays of wealth through German cars.
The focus on audio is something I'm unable to process. I do appreciate, and can tell the difference, in audio quality. But what's the value of having greater-than-avareage audio in a car?
A majority of public feel this way. What I can say is cars are vastly different now than 10 years ago. The isolation and refinement has gone up along with DSP, and processing power to equalize these multi channel audio systems. In this case the Bowers Setup performs and measures better than most peoples home audio setup because the designers can control and treat the space in the car and then digitally calibrate around it. With most people streaming near lossless audio now from phones in cars the audio experience is far better and we look at it as an important part of the interior design.
I always thought of the 7-series as the upscale version of GM's Toronado - throw every new idea into it and damn the reliability.