Repair ugly stucco textures
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- Repair ugly stucco textures.
Stucco matching.
How to patch bad stucco matches.
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This how-to video explains how to fix or repair ugly or bad window patches.
It would help to first recognize the previous plastered texture when matching any new stucco texture.
They rely on your skill or time to find the easiest way to correct the situation.
As long-time applicators or most plastering professionals, we need only look at the problem to instantly understand how to correct it.
Material knowledge of any trade is needed.
In this video, I use La Habra stucco with a fine sand finish, as the previous guys used; I have to use the same sand or finish to match their finished work.
• Apply a skip trowel te... Here’s what this guy wanted to do spread a skip trowel texture with the base coat. It’s not as easy as folks think unless you have some time to practice.
• Stucco around a new wi... Apply stucco to a newly installed window.
• Waterproofing new wind... Install lath to a window before stucco.
• Matching Stucco textur... Apply stucco texture fixes wrong patching window.
• Bad stucco patches, ho... Re-texturing ugly stucco.
I worked as a Rep for Rapid Set and I learned all my demo techniques from you! Thank you Kirk!
Fantastic! love the review, thank you.🥳
I have about zero interest in knowing how to do stucco, but I was captivated by watching decades of experience at his task.
Howdy Fly Dude, man, I like your style,
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I love listening to Kirk's stories about working back in the day and learning about the trade. It's just wholesome and Americana.
Good afternoon Robert, thank you my friend.
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I miss your videos Kirk. If you need to take a break that's fine. But I want to say how much we appreciate you.
Good morning Mateo Lucy, thank you, what a beautiful thing to say.😉
My son Jason, who video's all our work, he and his wife just had a baby, plus Jason has other work.
I just do the work and explain what we're doing. I have no clue how to film it, let alone how to download it, Again thank you for that comment.😏
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I'm a painter over 20 years .. what i like is that it looks like you got the family involved in what you love to do.. thats great 👍 .some times it's hard to get along when working with family members..but that is cool . You seem like a good reasonable man ..love your work.good day peice love respect ...
Well said! thank you my friend.
I don't even plaster anymore but just enjoy watching you work.
Good morning Datablend, well my friend, I suppose I'll retire too, but in about ten years, so there will be plenty to watch.😉
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Wish you would show after it’s painted! It’s always nice to see the finish products! PS. I enjoy watching your video!
Good Evening, Jocelyn, this is something I have filmed before, however, we don't do the painting.
our patchwork should be cured for at least 28 days before the homeowner or contractor paints.
FYI, I notice all the patchwork in exterior plastering that I have ever done or by all others, "always," as this is what I do for a living, no one can patch a door, window or anything else I can't notice immediately.
The idea is I do the best I can for folks when hired when painted has every patch I've done over the years matched perfectly? No.
Stucco patching cannot be done throughout one's lifetime and be perfect every time.
This unrealistic talent is not for a mortal man.
However, if folks are sitting in a hot tub getting drunk and high, and thoughts of exciting conversations or sex, is dominated by,
"Hey, who did that bad patchwork?"
Then there's a problem with my repairs.
Thus, I would have to repair once more at my expense.
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Jerk Of All Trades Thank you!
Kirk send Jason back for "after photo" after these are cured and painted!
Glad you’re honest about patches. They can never be perfect, and some are a lot harder than others. That’ll actually look really good once it’s painted. Nice job.
Evening Kevin, thank you, there are some areas inside a big wall that can be seen, no matter who does the patchwork.
We do the best we can with whatever comes our way.
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Looks more than close, looked like a perfect match Kirk. Nice job. Hope your knee is doing better bro. Take care of yourself!
Howdy Aka 907 Dude, thank you,
My knee issues decided to stay with me like old luggage.
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I've missed ya Kirk! Thanks for the new video, my little boy was so excited to see it..well, me too! 😁 I hope you and your family had a happy holidays. Hope your knee is feeling better too!
Much love,
Sarah Smile 😊
Aloha baby hair with a woman's eyes, I missed you, Give that boy of yours a big hug from me and have the best time of your life in this new year.
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Hi Kirk, watching your videos is very therapeutic. I always have a better outlook on life and work after seeing one of your vids. The way you weave a story is just as artistic and magical as the way you handle your trowel. I love how you end the videos with your family by your side. What a loving family! Thanks Lana
Evening Lana, the good old days are in that last picture.
Life has changed a bit.
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That's as perfect a finished as I've ever seen.
Evening Mateo, you, my friend have a way with words. thank you
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I’m a rental investor in Las Vegas I also do handyman work on the side. I came across your Chanel this morning before going to look at a wall repair. Your content is great. I’ve watched 5 videos in 2 hrs to familiarize myself with the info/ trade. Even if I don’t take this job I appreciate the knowledge
Good morning, Yogi Bear. Your research means you're smarter than the average bear.
Cheers, and best wishes, my friend.th-cam.com/video/YtBFxU8L-j4/w-d-xo.html/ 🍻
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Good Evening Disco Rusko Dude, man, how I do like your style.
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Heard Mike Haduck mention you a few times in his videos decided to check your channel out very glad i did love your work ethic great videos i pour flat work for a living and i still enjoy watching watching guys like you Mike haduck david odell you guys have the best videos!
Atta boy Ty Dude, dont place all your eggs in the same basket.
Different guys different opinions.
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That was a phenomenal patch job!
Greetings Cuban George, thank you, my friend, it was another day at the office for us, having fun.
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Hey Kirk,
I dig all your videos and appreciate all the little side stories you tell.
Your videos have truly helped me out.
Thx for sharing Brother.
Good evening Ferdinand my friend, thank you and God bless.
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It was a pleasure watching you work. Your videos are very well done. Love the banter. You convinced me that stucco repair is beyond the DIYer.
Good morning Michael, thank you, my friend.
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Feliz Año Nuevo Kirk gracias por sus videos eres el mejor ? Viendo sus videos me an ayudado aser mejor el trabajo bendisiones a usted y toda su familia y alos q lo miran sus videos
Buenas noches Pavon mi amigo,
Gracias por las palabras amables y que sus nuevos años estén llenos de paz, amor y felicidad también.
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Wow! In just 10 minutes you turned a disaster into something that looks amazing, nicely done
Those patches on the outside of a house are more impressive than the drywall patches I do inside...👍
Howdy Daniel Dude, thank you, my friend.
Craftsman Kirk & Co !
Great tips , as always .
Thanks Kirk , you chaps are the best
Good morning Johnathan, thank you, my friend.
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Thanks, Kirk, I’ve learn a lot with your videos. I’m in the restoration business and your teachings are exactly what I need. 👍
Howdy McQueen, thank you, you can depend on us for sound advice.💃🏻
A master at work.
Top guy this man is, good chat too!
Howdy Mr. Chazzahc, thank you, my friend.🍾
Beautifully matched work.
Howdy Jose, thank you
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What a beautiful job. I’m so impressed.
Evening Lisa darling, thank you for those kind words.😉
Hi Kirk. Many thanks from here in Australia. I'm enjoying your channel. I have been Rendering for 20 years and love working this trade. Thanks for sharing how it's done over your way. I'd buy you a beer any day.!
Howdy Pete Dude, thank you,
I'm on my way, going that far I'll have a real thirst.
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You are an expert. I have watched so many of your videos and still feel like it’s so difficult to do this well.
Evening Lisa, thank you again, sweetie. In all trades it takes practice, no doubt I cant do what you do either.😉
What a match!!! That is amazing!!!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Good evening Jimmy, thank you, my friend, another day at the office and having a bit of fun.
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See you on the next one . Sure hope so buddy , can't wait keep em coming .✌
Good Evening Guard Duck dude, thank you.
we do them it's fun, but Jason my son the bearded plasterer and film dude is in Spain, with my daughter, chilling
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Really inspiring work there Kirk!
Evening Mike, thank you for the comment,
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Love to see it when it's painted.
True trades man
Evening Grant, we'd have to go back a month from now, perhaps.
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What a nice man with a beautiful family. Thank you sir for showing this. Really helped me patch this old dog door.
Evening Mr. Random, thank you for those kind words.😉
@@StuccoPlastering I wish TH-cam let you post pictures in the comment section. I think you would be impressed on how I applied the knowledge you taught in this video. Thank you again
@@mr.randomvideos2928 Howdy Mr, Random, kirkgiordano@gmail.com my personal email. cheers.😏
Love your videos. I’m an electrical contractor and I have to do patch work and lath. You guys have been super helpful! Thanks 😅
Awesome! Thank you!
Awesome video and awesome work. I can’t wait to watch a “wee bit” more.
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You are amazing Señor. Thanks for sharing another interesting video.
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I don’t think I’ve seen this video yet. Lol thank goodness you have about ONE THOUSAND videos for me to learn from. Thank you sir 👍🏾
Glad it was helpful!
Nicely done Kirk!🔥💪🏻
Howdy Paul Peck, the youtube specialist on drywalling, had my share of that too, prefer the great outdoors, best wishes this year with your youtube teaching of drywalling.
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Thanks coach! Always appreciate you guys
You are welcome, my brother. 💃
Happy new year Kirk and family!
Good Evening Tadd Dude, thank you, the new years is continuing like last, not bad.
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Your work is flawless
Thank you, my friend.😉
Man, you're fun to watch work.
Howdy Packer Dude, thank you.🕵🏼
Yet another great vid and finish. 👍
Evening John, thank you for the kind words.
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I don’t do none of this stuff I don’t know why I watch but I really like your videos
Feels like I’ve met u before
Feels like I walked away with a skilled trade after everybody video
U keep filming I’ll keep watching
Evening Chop Sticks, thank you, my friend.
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Pretty sharp match there Kirk 👍👍👍🤘 nice job
Evening Torbjon dude, thank you, my friend,
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Great work buddy.
Thanks for the visit
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That's amazing work.
Howdy Anne-Marie,, thank you. cheers.🥂
Wonderful video. felt like i was standing there... Great to catch your post and wishing you all the very best in 2019. Peace!
Good Evening whispering dude, thank you, my friend.
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Buen trabajó Mr Giordano es usted muy profecional
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Nice finish!
Evening Robert, thank you, it was a wee bit closer.
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Ive been sculpting with sand and cement for the last 6 years none of my co workers speak English so at lunch i started making small birds and stuff got additcted to it now its all i want to do bord with walls and ceilings my dads also a plasterer we're from d.c i feel at home when i see you working thanks for your video's
Howdy Grey day, I know the feeling, I started creating Sponge Bob characters with stucco on the mud board but had to stop as it was too much fun. live long and plaster,
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I get so nervous when I'm doing stuff I can't talk to anyone. You are unbelievable.
Evening Jakee dude, thank you, however, sometimes I get that way too, it's normal, I think.
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Great job. Looks perfect
Thank you, we have been doing this for awhile.
Nice, you made that look super easy. Happy New Year to you and the family! By request, G rated.😊
Good Evening Russel Martin dude, thank you, hope the new year is full of love for you to my friend.
Got to keep it rated G as some folks may not understand being rude is just plain rude, besides there are other sites for that kind of stuff.😇
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Great Work!!!
Evening Ford Guy, thank you.
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Good Evening Marin, love to hear this, thank you
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excellent job
Thank you! Cheers!
It looks to me that the original direction of the texture below the window was applied perpendicular to the texture above the window & sides of the window. Thanks for all your videos you point out many different aspects of stucco and lath. Your videos are a great place for knowledge and experience for idiots like me to learn. Once again THANK YOU very much. It does take lots time to edit & film all the videos and upload onto TH-cam.
Good Evening 49 Dodge Dude, thank you, I'm certain I can't do what you specialize in, but stucco, Kirk knows well.
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Kirk you the best!
Good Evening Motorcycle Dude, thank you, my friend,
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Hey Kirk! Love the videos. Also like the hair cut. It looks good.
Evening Randall, thank you on both counts.
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Happy new year, good health 2 u and ur family from England
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Thanks for show us. How to do it.i watch your videos 🦊 I really like how you work. You are the man I'll practice this tricks
Howdy Jacob, cool beans, Daddieo.
Nothing more satisfying than watching someone plaster
Good Evening Rezuh dude, exzackory, like when I kicking back eating a burrito, and my sons are working.
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Good work I enjoyed #!
Evening Mario, thank you, another day at the office.
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Number 1 Kirk! Live long my brother, and plaster +
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Looks great Kirk! Great match! I’m glad you emphasized the grit, and angle of application, so important. Love your stuff bro, you make me inspired to come to work and sling mud. Plastering is such an awesome trade! I wish there were more Stucco jobs where I work instead of Efis, Efis, Efis. Anyway, see ya later Dude!
Good Evening Daniel Dude, thank you, I too have had my share of EFIS, I prefer jobs that give a challenge most of the time anyway, Keep on slinging my fellow plasterer
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The best way to feather inn with internal is too use the fat off your trowel that’s how we got taught and to use your water brush . Watching these videos makes me want to start external rendering as we call it in uk you call it stucco in America Kirk is the king of stucco
Howdy Ram Dude, thank you, my fellow plasterer.🥳
Great work not many get it right
Evening Kevin, thank you. It does take a lot of practice.
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good lord that was friggen AMAZING! WOW. I have seriously tried to stucco on 3 different occasions....first job i got kicked off by the homeowner, after trying to stucco around a window lol. 2nd time i tried to stucco above a door and all the stucco fell on my head. 3rd time i tried matching the texture and it was just so off it was just ridiculous.
Howdy Aaron, at least you had the ambition and took the challenge, more important than a few first attempt, hiccups.
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Very nice!!! Thank You!!
Thank you, my friend.
Good to see you.....
Good Evening Manju dude, I,m still slinging mud
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I like this guy
Howdy Michael, thank you my friend.👨🏼🎨
Another Great Video... Thx...
Thank you John,
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I don't know why but this intregs me I could totally do this for a living I like it nothing like a pro working
Howdy Shane, this may be your calling,😏
Maybe the window wasn’t there and that’s why the other fella was able to go straight up with his trowel but you probably already knew that , thanks for the videos God bless!
Evening Jose, things that make you go Hmmmmm.
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You are welcome!
brilliant!
You are the best!!!
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Very nice.
Evening Transasol, thankyou
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Nice touch. Work looks good.
This should be titled pro vs amature.
Good evening Bowzer my pal from beautiful Florida, hope all is well with you and the recovery, keep the jokes coming, your pal,
Kirk Giordano,
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You have skills.
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Came out mint
Howdy Chris Dude, wow, you guys are too kind, thank you
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Great video, I wish you would show us pictures of the finished product though
Greetings Nicholas, most finishes we do require 30 days before painting. I did return to jobs waiting to film the painted finishes, I have waisted to much time on just one job to last me a lifetime of doing that again, sorry.
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I watched a lot of your videos, this channel is like a teaching lab at a tech school for plastering. So far I feel I'm failing student. I've gone through about 8 bags of quikrete stucco base repairing four repair areas in my stucco home and the end result is pretty good in my opinion, not professional for sure but good enough for three coat system. So far, at least four of the eight bags ended up the ground because my hawk and trowel skills are in serious trouble. I even mixed up one bag just to practice transfer from my hawk to my trowel skills and I must be doing something wrong but I may have stumbled upon something. keeping the small load on my hawk helps and taking it either off the top or bottom, I've found that by squeezing the mix between the hawk and trowel during the transfer itself seems to help keep the mix on my trowel long enough to make it to the wall. If I just rely on scooping it off with the trowel alone, and not applying slight pressure between the hawk /trowel, the material slips immediately off my trowel and ends up coating my shoes and the ground below.. Trying various slump ratios at the moment but not nearly as efficient as you make it look. Bought two more bags for practice mix that I'm going to try tomorrow. Any suggestions Jedi master?
Steve in Newark!
Hold the your trowel like this : perpendicular to the forearm, thumb on edge pointing finger and middle finger to the handle. Adjust angle of trowel with the thumb. Half my new guys improve a lot using this holding method.
Howdy Dudes,
As a rule, I always prefer a trowel at least 2 to 4 inches longer than the largest hawk which is 14 inches, for reason of not dropping/spilling mud when working 8 hour days.
Heres a question for you to ask your fellow plasterers, I've already interviewed about 20, so I know the answer, to the question I am going to propose you ask, your fellow plasterers,
"why do you take mud for the top of your hawk?"
That method technically involves pulling mud while at the same time twisting he hawk for your next pull, then repeat until your hawk is empty.
The average plasterer does this time-consuming technique from 3 to 6 times to empty his hawk, plus drops much mud in the process.
My method and millions of others are to tilt the fully loaded hawk slightly downwards and allow gravity to drop the mud on my congo trowel, apply this mud to the wall, then turn the hawk once more, to tilt the remaining mud on my hawk once more for my next and often the last trowelful.
This method takes on average two moves to empty mud from my Plastering hawk.
FYI, when anyone starts to apply cement plaster at first, there are muscles in your forearm, wrist and deltoid and shoulders that you more than likely didn’t know existed.
These muscles are rarely used in everyday living.
Thus they will feel like they are on fire or swell up when you start to apply plaster, no worries, this is an excellent sign of unused and still weak muscles, not hurt muscles.
then when that beautiful pain is gone, begin again.
Your wrist, forearms or shoulders will burn, but that's o.k.
For the average person, it takes a week or two to get those unused muscles strong enough to move mud where you want it.
FYI, if you fall off a bike and hurt your leg, that's a bad pain or soreness, to strengthen muscles you didn’t know you had, this effort creates a beautiful soreness.
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Evening Grey, Exzackory.
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I agree with Steve C, it's like being in an Apprenticeship class again, (pipefitter retired).
thanks
EveningMichael, no worries.
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Art.
Thank you my friend.🤔
Hello, if I may suggest.. I have been binge watching lately, i think it would be awesome if you showed finished painted pics or videos as well
Good Evening, Sharkey, I have heard this before, however, it takes as a rule 28 days for the stucco to cure before painting.
it's tough enough to make videos let alone have to keep track of when a homeowner may decide to paint.
We actually did this that was two years ago, we're still waiting on the owner to paint.
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Freaking awsome. Kirk. Still it would be nice if could have some hands on experience with you.
Howdy Crazy like a fox, well my brother louuu's in a wheelchair, broke his foot, and my son Jason and Madeleine are in Spain.....
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Great work lads.Now how about some Trowel-On texture application videos!
Evening Wayne, I have many, just type in what you're looking for a magically a video will appear to show you how we do it. 🤓
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Good morning Kirk.What I would like to see is how you guys apply the Trowel-On with paint. I heard that they normally put it on the wall then wait about 15 minutes and use a fiberglass float to float in an upward circular motion. I would like to see how it is applied in a video.I would especially like to see how you guys apply the course texture type of Trowel-On.Thanks man!
On the money, I do a lot of patches and it does take someone who has a lot of skills.
Good Evening John my fellow plasterer, as you know it takes practice, thank you.
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I recently had some electrical work done to move an outdoor outlet in order to install an in-wall doggie door. In order to move the outlet, they had to punch holes in the stucco wall, and now I need to fix it. I have most of the tools needed to repair the holes, but I am not able to find small quantities of backing paper or house wrap for what would be (3) 4in x 4in holes that need to be repaired. I have seen a number of your TH-cam videos, and have shown me a lot. Do you have any guidance on where to find this material to begin patching?
Thanks.
Awesome tip on the bulldog demo hammer! - Will the owner need to paint the entire wall (or even the entire building?) to match the new stucco? It seems a shame since that massively gigantic wall is a maintenance-free finish. I would have been tempted to ask you to try and get close to the same color (obviously it's impossible to color match faded and dirty 50+ year old stucco) just to not lose that maintenance-free finish. Another idea is if the stucco was cut out tight when removing the old window, then a wood trim could cover the perimeter of the new window and cover the patch. Yeah, it would be funny looking if only two out of the 30 windows were wood trimmed but a maintenance free finish is desirable in my opinion.
Howdy Donald, all true, there are many ways to skin a cat.
The best method would be to do the patch work, then re-skim the entire wall, voila, a clean maintenance free wall once more. Happy new years.🍻
Great job on explaning plastering finishing techniques. Have you ever done interior plastering, with looks of cast concrete without special overpriced concrete effect materials?
Evening Norbertas, yes I have done this too, before.
This is difficult, today they sell rubber forms to stamp on the wet stucco to create the illusion of concrete.
The skill part is to know how to line these rubber stamps on and whether the cement plaster is not to wet or dry.
It's just like doing stamped concrete which I did for my backyard only much more difficult on a wall.
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Hey Kirk,
I have watched a few of your videos on youTube and thank you very much, they are very informative! I have a question about for helping a friend with a DIY project. She wanted the inside of her studio which is a painted block to be plastered with a random looking texture like a skip trowel finish. I wanted to make sure my understanding was correct before attempting. I was planning on first using a wire brush to rough up the surface then clean well. Next apply a bonding agent such as weldcrete or quikcrete then apply a skim coat. Could I apply the skip trowel finish while skim coating instead of floating it smooth and then paint after it has properly cured or would I need to skim coat and then apply a finish coat on top of that? Thank you for any advice and thanks again for your awesome videos!
Good afternoon Trevor, yes, you can do this.
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Kirk, thanks for the video!
I currently have painted textured drywall in my home and am considering plastering my walls. What should my first steps be? I'm unsure what the ideal backing(?) is for plaster. Do you have any specific videos that would be helpful?
Howdy Mr. Walker dude, sure, Plaster over the painted textured drywall.
First, apply Larson's Plaster weld, then plaster directly over what you have their now.
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Hi Kirk, i’ve tried applying stucco once, about 40 years ago. A friend and I stuccoed a shed in his backyard the stucco scratch coat kept falling off. LoL❗️ Can you help explain if there is a technical reason why l need to start or begin applying a scratch coat at the top of the wall and work my way down? Also I have a 3 foot flat soffit with a vent continuous around the roof. Should I do begin the soffit before beginning wall or after?
Thanks .