Sierra Designs High Route 3000 - Durston X Mid 1 Alternative
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
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This is the BEST one man tent I have ever used! The Sierra Designs High Route 3000 is the lightweight backpacking tent that I have opted for to replace my Vango Banshee 300 Pro.
In the mission to get my overall kit weight down this was a perfect choice for the Scottish weather as it is an outer pitch first, meaning that the inner will not get wet while setting-up and for the very few good weather days it can be pitched as an inner only.
I believe I covered the pertinent points on the vlog but if you have any questions then let me know and I will do my best to answer them.
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⛺️ Tent Specs;
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Flysheet: 526g
Bug Net: 372g
Total: 898g (excludes pegs & bags)
Pegs x10 weigh: 80g
Number of Doors: 1.5
Dimensions: 259cm x 107cm
Packed size: 40 x 16cm
Materials;
Poles Supplied: 0 (Requires trekking poles)
Pegs: 10x 8g aluminium
Fly: 20D Nylon Ripstop Silicon, 3,000mm HH PU
Floor: 30D Nylon Ripstop 3000mm HH
Inner: 20D Nylon Ripstop Silicon, 15D Nylon No-See-Um Midge Mesh
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Absolutely brilliant video. Clear and concise. Everything you need.
Cheers 1-minute mile! Glad that you liked it and I just hope that it helped. Is it a tent you're looking to get?
nice tent - reminds me of something ??
sierra designs have always made great tents
A wedge of cheese... green cheese? 🤷🏻♂️ I'll be getting this one out soon again I feel.
I've been eyeing up Sierra Designs' Flex Capacitor rucksack after seeing a few but still not sure if I'm into it completely yet.
Very nice sir! I love the shape, reminds of the Durston tents - those designs get a great write up 💪🏻 Happy Camping!
It is a peculiar shape but it does the job well and didn't let me down a single night this week. The outer pitch option is a massive bonus for Scotland.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors Excellent!! Aye, it’s definitely a plus, especially as a quick shelter as you mentioned 👍🏻
Good stuff. You’ll enjoy that weight (or lack of) for sure. With my pyramid, I love being able to put the outer up in a few minutes and then getting in and sheltered and can then get wet stuff of and sort stuff out before needing to think about the inner. Gordon
Hey mate, I certainly did last week and both setups came into play a number of times so it was brilliant again. I'm really loving it so far and think it will be a long term staple in the setup.
I do like the look of it, the only thing I would be worried about is the wind. Good luck on the WHW the tent will be well tested by then you will need to give us an update at the end. PS that beard is coming on fantastic.
It's a great tent and has been well tested now. For the wind I pitch it with the wedge facing into the direction so that takes most of the hit up and over. The wind did turn on Ben Lui bealach and hit the flat side but with the second guy line on it was fine, plus the guy lines are really tough.
That's the WHW dome today and what an experience, absolutely brilliant and again it was more of Scotland in the bag.
Thanks on the ol' 🧔🏼♂️ just letting it do its thing.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors that's good, it just looks like it would be strange in the wind. It's a good brand though so I should have known it would be fine.
Well done on the WHW if that's it just complete does that mean you were out camping in those storms 😮??
I have a curl in my beard and it just looks ridiculous if I let it grow a bit longer 🤣.
Brilliant review mate, found this as been looking at buying this tent for long distance hiking. Thanks for sharing
Hey MM, it's a great tent and I had no issues with it on the WHW. What route are you taking it on?
Exactly what I was looking for. Brilliant video! Thanks a lot 👍
Thanks Petr! I'm glad I could have been of help and it's a great tent. What are your plans if you do get this tent? Is it for a trail or summit camping?
@@AScotsmanOutdoors I'm going to Mexico for a month in April. I'm planning to go from Mexico city to Yucatán. It's gonna be a mix of hiking, hitchhiking, traveling by public transport and by rental vehicles. I expect to sleep out in the nature for about half of the trip. I have just a 40L backpack so I want to save space. I've just ordered the tent, plus a cumulus xlite 200 sleeping bag.
@@petrsvihlik Did you do your trip?
@@John-hu9bo absolutely. I spent the whole month of April 2023 in Mexico. Climbed La Malinche with this tent and slept over in 4000m.
@@petrsvihlik amazing!!
Nice to see someone else with this tent other than the durstom xmid, I done 5 night whw back in may/June and the tent performed brilliant tbh, even the thin groundsheet didn't leak when camping in a waterlogged Glencoe campsite. You can flip the poles round and there's a small reinforced sleeve, makes the tent more secure than having the handles of your poles in the fly, which I found can slip when pitched on uneven ground. I've a few examples on my channel. I'm playing around with a few modifications to it, more so with the vestibule and making the zips waterproof. Cheers Scott.
Hey Scott, nice to hear from a fellow High-Router 👍🏼
I used it on my WHW in August and it was brilliant throughout. I had the pleasure of using the bug net only for a few nights which was brilliant.
I've saw people use the sleeve (the wee triangular corner piece) with the poles upturned. I might try that on my next outing and see how it goes but I'll check out your channel to see how you got on too.
I'll keep an eye out to see how the differences you make to the vestibule.
Overall, this has been my favourite tent in a long while.
How did you find the WHW overall. Was it poor weather throught if it was water logged at Glencoe?
I own this tent ... One of the complaints people have is thin vestibule... A hack for this is piece of dynena with circle for walking pole ... Attached to bottom of fly. This means side walls have the option to angle out so you get another 6-8" vestibule to cook in etc
I've seen people use this method to extend the yellow tab that's there and side will allow this. So far I've fared well simply by extending my walking pole an inch or so and, like you say, angle the wall out. It does give you that little more floor space for admin.
Thanks for the very helpful review!. Ours in the States is yellow and blue
I had saw them in yellow and blue and did wonder if it was an older or different model but this explains it.
Are you looking at buying one? I absolutely love mine so far.
Solid looking tent Bryan and good review of it to boot. ⛺ 👌🏼
Cheers mate. She's done me well so far and was a treat to use on the WHW.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors looking forward to the vids mate.
Great video, thanks pal. It's not quite the X-mid 2 Solid but much cheaper, so you've given me food for thought. Enjoy Scotland this winter.
Hi Philip, thanks for watching and I'm glad the video has helped. I absolutely love this tent so it's definitely one to consider but if it's a two man tent you're after then I'd say avoid as it can be neat on space.
Again, thanks for watching and happy tent hunting.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors Cheers. My Tarptent Stratospire 2 arrives tomorrow. They do amazing tents. Planning a walk from Garve into the mountains next year. Have a good Christmas.
Guid review Bry, Nice looking wee tent. Never heard o thum afore.
Thanks mate, I hadn't heard of their tents but had heard of their rucksacks. It was when I was searching for the rucksack that I found this little beauty, and glad that I did.
Hopefully get out some time and have a peek at it, I've still to actually see inside the ol' Lanshans.
Great review fella im sold on this one . Ill hit subscribe too
Hey mate, I'm just glad it's given you food for thought. It's a great tent and I'm still loving it almost two years on. I hope if you go for it that it serves you just as well.
Thanks for the sub too, I've got a better year of recording planned for 2024.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors thanks fella , and I'll look forward to them. Ill probably hit you up for some nice easy hikes around Scotland as I'm trying to get fit/overcome some mental health issues, I'm finding that planning to go out into the wilds with my dog is helping a lot
I picked this tent up at the end of last year looking for a UK supplier for the Durston X-Mid. I prefer the green for UK wild camping.
If you are still looking for a lightweight backpack, I can *highly* recommend the Osprey Levity. I have the 60 litre version and it's ridiculously comfy. I've put hundreds of miles into mine. Obviously, it's not a bulk carrier, but if you're dropping the weight of the rest of your kit it easily copes. My usually carry weight is around 10kg.
Hey Richard, how are you finding it? Have you had it out yet?
I'm always looking for different gear, purely because it's there to be looked at, and I'll definitely check out the Levity. I have looked into Osprey gear before and know their stuff is good. My Vango that I use is 58L and done me well on the WHW so I'm sure 60L will fit everything and, as you say, dropping weight makes the pack size smaller.
I hope you enjoy your SD High Route as much as I've enjoyed mine so far.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors Still not had a chance to take it out. But soon! And I'm taking on the west highland way later this year. Can't wait!
Aw, here's another one 😂 So many people are telling me they're doing it this year and I'm quite envious if I'm honest because I'm not (well, not yet 😂).
It was a great tent for the route and I hope you get nights with just the bug being used like I managed. Absolutely amazing time.
Excellent review, thanks for your effort and time. I wonder is there really enough room to leave a large backpack in the gear store? Thanks Peter, Victoria Australia.
Hi Peter, thanks for watching and glad you took something from it. I use this for long distance hikes and have no issues placing a 55 litre rucksack in the gear store. It does touch against the fly-sheet but it's definitely not noticeable or a hindrance.
Thanks for the reply. It was most kind of you. The reason I asked is that I bought one of the first models of the SD High Route 1 Fl a number of years ago.... It turned out that it was enormous, on both sides, however, it weighed in on my scales at 1460.grams! Including the stuff sack, pegs, fly and nest (ie the inner). Plus I always take a ground sheet so another 180 grams on top. It turns out that I have two person tents at that weight!. But I love the idea of the High Route and if it can fit a 70 litre pack in the gear store and keep it dry I may even buy one again. But if it can’t fit a backpack under cover in the a High Route 3000 such as yours, I have other tents to try. Thanks again for your time, regards from Peter.
Hi Peter, apologies for the late reply. I have only just discovered the "filter comments that have new replies" button 🤦🏻♂️
I'm not sure where you are at with your tent hunting now it's been so long but I can confirm that I stash my 55-60 litre ruck sack in the gear store (with the rain cover on and facing outwards if it's raining) and have had no issues at all. It rests nicely against the walking pole and fly. While not ideal to have anything pressing against the fly it does keep it that bit further out in poor weather and has always held up good so far.
Again, sorry for the delay and I hope this helps with your hunt.
Happy 2024 to yourself.
Hi great video, looks warmer than my Drop xmid 1p.
Does the fly have a double zip
Hi Andrew, I've had no issues with this wee tent so far but haven't had it in freezing conditions yet (and not sure it's meant for real winter conditions) but I will try it.
From the top of my head I know that the main entrance door has a double zip and I'm sure that the 'gear store' side has one too.
It's a great tent and one I'm sure that I'll have for a decent amount of years too.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors that's 👍
May be tempted to buy one if it has a double zip on the fly. Great if you can also open from the top.
Looking at walking the Ramsey round and spine of Scotland this year. So should be a great little tent for this.
I'll get it out tomorrow and check the fly too but I'm also sure that they are double zipped. I just can't remember off the top of my head.
Hi
Nice review but tell me
Can you fit a exped lw mat in the inner it’s 197x65 cm
And what’s it like in the wind ? Here in the north east I camp on the Cheviots and it blows !!!
Cheers
Hey Mountain Hopper, I'm going out in it soon so I'll get a measurement for you and I'm going to do a "wind test" video because I've had a lot of folk interested in its wind stability. I've had it out on a few fairly windy nights and it's been fine but I've not measured the wind speed.
I'll give you a shout when I'm putting that video out.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors sounds like a plan
Would the mat fit don’t forget !! A lot of the sites have such poor sizes shown
Hi, apologies for bothering. Do you know if the bottom of the zips have a male/female buckle to prevent zip creep?
Hi K, absolutely no bother at all.
The bottoms of the doors do have clips to stop zip-drift / creep.
You can see these around 4:45 in the vlog at the door opening.
Feel free to ask any other questions.
Is 3000mm good enough for the Scottish rain? I recently went camping along the NC500 with a 4500mm and had no rain getting in at all. I wonder what it would have been like with a 3000mm?
Hey, yes it's absolutely fine for the times I've had it out and some of those were driving rain.
Have a wee you tube search of hydrostatic head on TH-cam and there's some good videos out there on it. They show just how much water the material can actually take before it seeps through.
Did you do a drive and camp of the NC500?
Hi just wondering if you have had an experience of the lanshan tents. I'm slightly too tall for the lanshans. I wondered if the more steeply sloping sides would give me a bit more room in this tent thanks
Hi James, I've not had a great deal of experience with the Lanshan but I do believe the asymmetric design of this one is mainly for that reason, extra headroom.
I have no issues sitting upright in it and I'm 6'0" (and broad).
It doesn't feel restrictive in any way for me either.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors ok thanks for your info. I have since bought a 2nd hand stratosphire instead which I have enjoyed using.
These vertical walls look like they would catch the wind very badly..what s your experience in a bad weather with it?
Hi VVS, they're actually not that bad in the experiences I have had. I do tend to find the direction the wind is coming from and aim the foot corner (where the white stripe touches the corner) into the wind. Between that and the side guys on top of the walking poles, it does hold up well. I have experienced a little guy line slip when you have the combo of wind and rain but that has been less than I can care to consider.
Overall, I would say that this is better suited to low level / sheltered spots rather than winter summits where a geodesic frame would suit better.
I hope this helps a little.
Thanks for the video. Really decent. I am contemplating this one now its in green not bright blue! Can you advise how storm worthy it is? also my reservation is storage in the proches. Whats your experience been like?
Hi Adrian, I found the blue white and yellow a bit of an odd pairing too, hence the green option.
I've had it in fairly blowy conditions (15-20mph winds) with no real issues. On one trip a guy cord did slip the tensioner so a corner went flappy but it's easy enough to open an inner door, reach into the corner and pull it tight again. All without leaving the sleeping bag. It is however not a tent I'd take for extremely windy / harsh weather.
I've seen people talk about adding this pole, changing that tensioner loop etc but, for me, I've been able to get a 60 litre rucksack in at the narrower "gear porch" side and have no issues storing a set of boots and the stuff you need to get hands to on the main side. To open the space I simply move the poles out at the bottom a few inches away from the inner and you'll get a decent enough increase in porch space. You'll not be sitting in it drinking tea but you'll get a few more pieces under cover.
I hope this helps and let me know how you get on if you do buy one. For me, it has been a treat and brilliant on an August West Highland Way trip.
Hey great video, I have an xmid 2 which I do love but the foot print is huge. I was looking at the xmid 1 but I really like the look of the HR and it's just gone on sale.. How are you still finding it? Also sorry if I missed it but what size rucksack do you use and does it fit in OK? Cheers
Hey Danny, I absolutely love this tent and I've not found any glaring issues from using it. The only thing I have experienced is a single guy slip once during high winds and rain on the Merrick but it was a case of reaching out the inner and pulling the corner taught again.
I carried it on the West Highland Way last year in my Vango 55 litre rucksack and it fitted no problem. A lot of the websites show it compared to a 1 litre Nalgene bottle and I'd say it's completely accurate and it can be squeezed down small.
I'm hoping to be out in the next few weeks with it so I'll make sure it features again because I know people are interested.
I hope this helps mate.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors wow what a great respsone just like the vid 😁. Looks like I'm buying another tent 😆, I'd be using my 48 litre so should fit nicely..
Look forward to the next one.. 👍🏻
😂 you're welcome. You asked a question so it's only polite to answer and hopefully it helped.
Oh, you'll have no bother fitting it inside a 48L, at all! Good job getting it with a discount too 🫡
Cheers mate, yeah I'm like you, spread a bit of good will when you can. Got two real quick questions. How did you find the wind hitting the sides and more importantly could you cook in the gear side through the door. Just if the wind changes and comes straight in the full opening side.. Love the awning feature of it. My finger is hovering on the buy it now button. 😂. Oh and do you use a foot print with it?
Ugh! Always with the questions 🙄😂
Joking!
There's one of the corners has a red tag and the others are yellow, this is for ease of aligning the inner with the fly. I tend to place the red tag in the direction of the wind, making it almost like a plough against the wind and shedding it across a flat side (the main entrance) and the front, which is angled due to the asymmetrical design.
It's not the most aerodynamic of shapes but in the winds I've had it in there's been no problem. I also carry four Delta pegs if there's any threat of higher winds and they really anchor it down.
I've never tried cooking on the "gear store" side but I couldn't see why it would be a problem other than the half moon door on the inner just, although this is actually quite wide and you can get a 55L rucksack in and out of it. I've cooked in the entrance with no issues and with the zip being two way you can open the top.
I'm going to have to get it out in higher winds when they're next here and do a wind test because people are always asking what it's like in the wind.
As for the footprint, I've never used a footprint for any tent really but I do carry Tenacious Tape incase anything get pierced. I just figure if something is going to rip or be punctured... it's going to be ripped or punctured, not that I purposely look for spikey pitches 😂
Again, I hope this helps and any more questions just let me know, I know the feeling of "should I, shouldn't I" well 👍🏼
Looks a great tent. Is this factory seam sealed?
Hi K,
Yeah, it comes fully tape seam sealed from the factory and I've had no issues with the sealing yet. It's a brilliant trekking pole tent from my use so far.
@@AScotsmanOutdoors awesome, thanks for the heads up. Prefer the colour of this to the xmid and probably works out a lot cheaper with import fees etc
@@AScotsmanOutdoors just ordered one, managed to get it for £245 with a discount. Do you think it would fit a small dog as well as a person? Cheers
Excellent stuff @@johnsonpt2 and a great price too.
I have three Jack Russells and would happily fit one of them in the big net with me and all three if using the fly sheet alone. What type of small dog do you have?
@@AScotsmanOutdoors I’ve got a patterdale terrier, so not much bigger than a jack Russell. Thanks for the info! Much appreciated.
Hi,
Just wondering if there’s room to cook in the vestibule if the weather is bad? Cheers
Hi K! If you're whipping up eggs bendict then I'm not sure you'll have the space but ☝🏻 I manage to boil water over meths burners or gas stoves in the vestibule no problem.
I simply extend the walking pole a little bit (a few centimetres) and angle it outwards at the base. This makes a wider ground area and I manage to happily lay there, tend to boil in the bag meals and make teas without much of a problem, and I'm not the smallest of people.
I hope this helps but if not then just ask away and thanks for watching too 👍🏼
@@AScotsmanOutdoors awesome, I tend to use the speedster stove. So sounds ideal
I tried with my speedster on this trip, and while I managed to get the water boiling, the wind was causing me problems getting it lit. I do like the speedster stove for a wee overnight though.
Do you find it troublesome in colder weather?
I own this tent ... One of the complaints people have is thin vestibule... A hack for this is piece of dynena with circle for walking pole ... Attached to bottom of fly. This means side walls have the option to angle out so you get another 6-8" vestibule to cook in etc
Hey John, I am hoping to be out in this one again soon and I've had a few queries about a few things so I'll show you what I do.
I've heard a few methods about adding guys and extra pieces but I simply extend the walking pole and angle it out from the tub.
The height drops a little but not enough that you notice it, plus you can simply pull it back in when you're finished cooking or doing whatever admin.
I hope this helps meantime.