EDIT - Forgot to mention this. The dissection team also needs to follow the normal-perfect-normal rotation so phase 2 ends with perfect shapes as well.
@@slClaw the perfect shapes are the order of whatever your modified call out is (so in my example the modified for phase 2 was CTS So the dissection should end with sphere-pyramid-cube in that order from left to right
@@SneakyBeaverdo you have to be going to the left why can’t you go to the right?? So lets say the call out is S-C-T you do it normal, then the modified version going to the right T-S-C. Can some one explain? Or does it not matter as long as you either go left or right
If you are confused about this challenge or are wondering why the strategy contains extra steps, give this a read - it might help. I thought I'd write down some notes about shadows, since this mechanic is still poorly understood by many (which is fair lol, this encounter's mechanics are confusing). While you are inside, you may have noticed that the shapes the other players' statues are holding (shadows) disappear as you progress through the puzzle. This is what "Shadows Removed" on the scoreboard represents. Let's say the layout is TCS, and you're in the triangle room. If you were to receive a square from someone, you may notice that the statue on the right would lose the square its holding. The square shadow in your room is "removed" from your room, and your room only. Now, the three conditions for letting you break through the glass wall are often misunderstood, but are as follows: 1. You must hold two shapes, neither shape can be the shape your statue is holding. (this means two squares can work, if your statue is holding a circle) 2. All three dimensional figures outside must match what the players inside are holding, achieved through dissecting. 3. Both shadows (the shapes the other two statues hold) must be removed from your room. (iow: you must have received a square and a triangle at some point, if your statue is holding a circle) When doing the encounter normally, the misconception that; "The key must be built from the OTHER two symbols." works, and raises no issues. As long as you ensure that every shape moves at some point, and that everyone receives a key constructed from the other two symbols, you will always fulfil condition #3. You will have sent away everything you have, before receiving the two shapes needed to remove the shadows in your room, which of course - also let you through the wall when held. When doing the challenge, you may be tempted to cut corners if you are dealt a "good" hand where everyone starts with two of their own symbol. But if you send your two circles to the triangle room, the square shadow will still persist in that room. Its contained player won't be able to get through the wall until they are sent a square. This is why the extra steps are required, we need to get rid of all shadows before anyone runs through. Shadows are the reason we must send at least six shapes in total, no matter the permutation we're dealt. Six removable shadows, two in each room. hope this helps, good luck!
Thank you so so much for writing that out! I've been watching so many guides in preparation for the raid and always wondered why you couldn't just cut some obvious corners and the guides never told me why! Now that you've explained the additional mechanic of shadows everything makes total sense now! Thanks a million!!!
When you're doubled up on triangle (as per your example) rather than distributing your shape one each as you normally do... you can cut one step by just giving the 2 triangles to the statue who must close with pyramid, in a similar way, the guy who was doubled up on square can simply give both squares to you directly...so that you can pick up 2 squares to make a cube
You need to FIRST have all 3 shapes (you are T, so have S+C on wall). If you don’t do this condition first you won’t be able to leave. So if you go for perfect shape directly inside your rooms, and your own shapes, I don’t think it works - and I’m pretty sure this was tested during Day1 by a lot of teams?
The whole actual point of this encounter is to make a 3D shape that doesn’t include the ones that were called out for each statue. You’re essentially creating the *same* key on the outside and inside for the guardian that’s trapped to come out. Call outs starting left to right (or right to left however you prefer) Example - if you start with CTS, dissector will make a call out of SSCCTT *or* TTSSCC. If you happen to be the left statue on the inside you are going to either make a cube or prism *according* to the callout made by the outside team. If your key that you have made matches the same statue on the outside, you can walk-out. This is the actual encounter and its purpose. Incase if anyone hasn’t noticed this is exactly how it works by *default* even if you’re not doing challenge. I noticed this when running this encounter on the first few weeks of its release.
Just like the base encounter, difficult to figure out but mindblowingly easy to execute. You could do this challenge in a normal mode LFG run without ruffling any feathers. Despite that, I think it's a really cool challenge.
A simplified method for double shape round....do everything the same as first round and third round, just add one step 1st round: A. Double up B. distribute 2nd round: A. Double up B. Distribute (After distribute everyone should have 1 of the shapes they need to keep) C. Send the remaing shape in your room to the locations that needs it for the end goal sequence 3rd round: A. Double up B. Distribute Ps. The c step for round 2, every player should have one shape in thier room they need to keep, so simply grab the one shape you don't need to keep and send it off where it needs to go Example: the callous of the initial statues is sct so your end result should be Tt Ss Cc or tsc. After the distribution of Double up you keep your one t if your the left side statue, and send the od one out to where it needs to go which in this example would be the c, since after distribution after doubling up your room will have tc, since your the square guy.
Also if your team is proficient at callous then you can skip the distribution step for round 1 and 3, but for some reason you need to have a minkum or 3 to 4 shadow removals before you can leave with double shape on round two, so you will need to double up for round 2
In the second Phase. Cant you just play it normal? Like have everybody do it normally(send circle to the circle statue and so on) and then just send both symbols to the other statue. So if im circle and we established that the middle statue in my case needs the circles cant i just send them the circles 1 at a time? I mean it leads to the same outcome
Outside doesn’t have any other condition then to make the shapes asap? If the rooms start SCT as video example and you need to make CC-TT-SS. Let’s say the symbols start outside are CT-TS-SC and inside start SCT. Dissect 1. T from left + C from right CC-TS-ST 2. S from mid + T from right CC-TT-SS 3. Win. ?
dissect outside must always be the same as the inside statues. so yea, you need to dissect the same perfect shapes outside, of course after altering the callout. In your example u did everything correct outside.
Hey Sneak, using your example does Dissection team have to make Sphere, Pyramid, Cube to let the 3 people out with the perfect shape "key"? Also have another quick question if you don't mind me asking, I'll type out an example scenario of something our team tried so we can understand better. - Solo players got their perfect shape on the back wall ready to distribute. - We then dunked 1 at a time but onto the same statue, so Triangle room would dunk both of their triangles one at a time to square statue. This would end up with each player with a perfect shape, but unable to leave. This was done under the impression that you had to cleanse each shape by passing it to a different statue at least once. In this scenario, dissection had their outside statues matching the perfect shapes being made inside the room. Does this mean we have the assumption wrong about cleansing a shape? Or is there a mechanical reason you have to get the normal key first, then pass off the shapes? Is getting the normal key tied to the shapes being cleansed and not the amount of passes? Thank you for the guide, will put it to good use when we run it back! :)
For phase 2 the dissect team does have to follow the "modified" order and make perfect/pure shapes (so if modified was CTS then dissect would create sphere pyramid cube) as for the rest, not entirely sure tbh since I've never come across that. I would guess it has something to do with shadows removed and it being a requirement to pass certain symbols through the other rooms as a "trigger" even if they won't be finishing on a specific symbol. can't say for certain tho sorry.
So is the process for the 2nd round inside essentially normal doubles -> normal distribute -> doubles using modified callout -> escape with correct perfect shape.
Hey man, excellent video explanation. My only question is, for round 2, when you're figuring out what the ending shapes need to be, why are you shifting the starting shapes to the right specifically by 2? Wouldn't just shifting them by 1 work as well? i.e. S-C-T -> TT-SS-CC I feel it's less confusing to just shift by 1.
They still “shifted” only one, but to the left. It’s worded strange, but it’s exactly the same as your suggestion just in the opposite direction. SCT-> CC TT SS works SCT-> TT SS CC also works All that really matters is that you coordinate clearly with your team which method you are doing before hand so you are all on the same page.
AFAIK You can shift either way you'd like, the goal will still be the same,, just comes down to if your team wants to shift the "S" or the "T" in your example.
except the mentioned bug is during the witness killing you for the first time and in no proper run will anyone ever be holding two shapes at that point in time. I have had MANY runs where the mentioned bug happened and its always been 1 player dying holding a shape or a player dying as they were dunking their one shape. I can't speak on what happens if someone is holding 2 shapes for whatever reason, but the bug absolutely happens with what I mentioned.
Wouldn't perfect shapes be easier? Literally just operate under the "modified" callout and leave... No need to double up and distribute, just to double up again.
I think because you see the original callout symbols in your statue and you need to do some minor mental gymnastics and trick your brain. E.g. in the original you're triangle, now you have to operate as if you're square and it might get confusing. Doing it Beavers way with extra steps ensures you don't get confused. But yeah your strat might be easier.
Not sure if you mean start with modified or what but you're required to do alternating 3D shapes so no matter what you're either doing normal-modified-normal or modified-normal-modified and given that the entire community has done it the "normal" way this whole time it's just less headache and mental gymnastics to say do normal-modified-normal I can def see people get off guard and think "ok I spawned as triangle" and then completely forget that their modified ending won't be triangle.
Also, regarding the bug with Witness noticing you; it's always after 6 swaps, whether outside or inside. So do your 6 swaps inside to finish inside before you even touch dissection, then 1 player does the dissection while the other 2 outside do the 3 ghosts.
Yeah, you can do it this way too. As long as no one is trying to bum rush through the encounter and dunk 86 times before the rest and someone gets blindsided lol
For second time where you’re supposed to double up, could the Shadow players not just pick up both of their shapes and wait for outside to make their perfect shape? I.e. get your doubles like normal, then wait for dissection to make a Pyramid for you on outside (if you’re holding Triangle, like in the video)
Nope, as the base encounter does not allow you to make a functional key without giving away both of the starting shapes I.e. you need to cleanse two shapes off your wall before constructing a key with fresh shapes.
why the extra step in 2nd phase? when all three players have their doubles, why no just give both your symbols to the "next" statue (clockwise or counter-clockwise). that should also result in having everyone a pure 3D different from your statue
I (think) this was tried and failed. IIRC this method doesn't have each player remove 2 shadows / get the right shapes passed around so the game does not let you leave. but its also 4am so i won't say with 100% certainty lol
Can someone clarify? For round 2, does the outside team have to make the normal key first and then dissect to perfect shape or can they dissect the perfect shape right from the start?
Can’t you just get a perfect shape that isn’t your original and leave? Or do you have to have one of each shape before the mirror is unlocked? Once everyone has their dupes pass both to the right (far right passes to the left)and have dissection match it. C - T - S SS-CC-TT Then exit, it would eliminate a lot of passing
I (think) this was tried and failed. IIRC this method doesn't have each player remove 2 shadows / get the right shapes passed around so the game does not let you leave. but its also 4am so i won't say with 100% certainty lol
If you can leave with doubled shapes why cant you just make them at the start. Like as soon as you get into the shadow realm you just send every circle to square, every square to triangle, and every triangle to circle?
The "shadows cleansed" mechanic. On your side, you may have noticed that the shapes the other people's statues are holding disappears. This is because, whenever a shape that your statue isn't holding is dunked on your statue, it removes that shadow. For example, if a square is dunked on a triangle statue, it will remove the square shadow from triangle side (so the person on triangle side will no longer see the square guy holding the square symbol; it just wont be there). All 6 need to be removed, so effectively each side MUST have the other two shapes dunked on it at some point.
when you're making the perfect shapes and you have doubled up with your corresponding shape, can you not give both your shapes to 1 person (one at a time of course)?
I think its unclear whether the 'hidden' second requirement of clearing shape shadows off of everyone's inside statue is caused by someone dunking at both statues or by each person dunking twice, regardless of whether it was on both other inside guardians. The main reason just dunking both onto one might be a problem is if you go to the shadow realm and you already have both of your matching shapes, then you only dunk on one guardian and its uncertain whether that will clear the shadow on the other guardian you didn't dunk on. The way described in the video guarantees both instances so its safe to do it this way, but if you want you can try just collecting/distributing to one other person each, and if it worked then your guardian should be the only one holding its shape within the shadow realm. If not then its confirmed that you need to distribute to everyone else at least once.
tested this a few times. we got shapes matching our statues then passed it to the right. it didn't let us out. it likely has to do with removing the "shadows" mechanic and this extra step is what makes sure we can get out
@@a_StrangePlace there's a new method (non-challenge) going around that allows the encounter to be completed by depositing both your starting shapes into 1 other statue. Effectively reducing inside to only 6 deposits no matter what. I'm not sure if challenge has any special requirements tho.
@@SneakyBeaver is there a reason you can't just give both your shapes to one player? E.g. If its CTS and players have CCTTSS, can players not just give both their shapes one at a time to the next player over?
EDIT - Forgot to mention this.
The dissection team also needs to follow the normal-perfect-normal rotation so phase 2 ends with perfect shapes as well.
So say the order was sct. Then the new order is cts, does the outside need to be perfect sct or cts?
@@slClaw the perfect shapes are the order of whatever your modified call out is (so in my example the modified for phase 2 was CTS So the dissection should end with sphere-pyramid-cube in that order from left to right
@@halooaa1917 it needs to be CTS
@@SneakyBeaverdo you have to be going to the left why can’t you go to the right??
So lets say the call out is S-C-T you do it normal, then the modified version going to the right T-S-C.
Can some one explain? Or does it not matter as long as you either go left or right
doesn't matter as long as everyone is on the same page
If you are confused about this challenge or are wondering why the strategy contains extra steps, give this a read - it might help.
I thought I'd write down some notes about shadows, since this mechanic is still poorly understood by many (which is fair lol, this encounter's mechanics are confusing).
While you are inside, you may have noticed that the shapes the other players' statues are holding (shadows) disappear as you progress through the puzzle. This is what "Shadows Removed" on the scoreboard represents. Let's say the layout is TCS, and you're in the triangle room. If you were to receive a square from someone, you may notice that the statue on the right would lose the square its holding. The square shadow in your room is "removed" from your room, and your room only.
Now, the three conditions for letting you break through the glass wall are often misunderstood, but are as follows:
1. You must hold two shapes, neither shape can be the shape your statue is holding. (this means two squares can work, if your statue is holding a circle)
2. All three dimensional figures outside must match what the players inside are holding, achieved through dissecting.
3. Both shadows (the shapes the other two statues hold) must be removed from your room. (iow: you must have received a square and a triangle at some point, if your statue is holding a circle)
When doing the encounter normally, the misconception that; "The key must be built from the OTHER two symbols." works, and raises no issues. As long as you ensure that every shape moves at some point, and that everyone receives a key constructed from the other two symbols, you will always fulfil condition #3. You will have sent away everything you have, before receiving the two shapes needed to remove the shadows in your room, which of course - also let you through the wall when held.
When doing the challenge, you may be tempted to cut corners if you are dealt a "good" hand where everyone starts with two of their own symbol. But if you send your two circles to the triangle room, the square shadow will still persist in that room. Its contained player won't be able to get through the wall until they are sent a square. This is why the extra steps are required, we need to get rid of all shadows before anyone runs through.
Shadows are the reason we must send at least six shapes in total, no matter the permutation we're dealt. Six removable shadows, two in each room.
hope this helps, good luck!
I’m too lazy to read all that 😣
This makes sense now that its explained but I’m flabbergasted still
good write up!
@@slaygon. nice explanation
Thank you so so much for writing that out!
I've been watching so many guides in preparation for the raid and always wondered why you couldn't just cut some obvious corners and the guides never told me why!
Now that you've explained the additional mechanic of shadows everything makes total sense now!
Thanks a million!!!
When you're doubled up on triangle (as per your example) rather than distributing your shape one each as you normally do... you can cut one step by just giving the 2 triangles to the statue who must close with pyramid, in a similar way, the guy who was doubled up on square can simply give both squares to you directly...so that you can pick up 2 squares to make a cube
I didn’t even know you could leave the room with a perfect shape
I suspected you could but couldn't get a group to try it
@@donalddavis303 🍪
No one did
neither did anyone else until today lmao
You need to FIRST have all 3 shapes (you are T, so have S+C on wall). If you don’t do this condition first you won’t be able to leave.
So if you go for perfect shape directly inside your rooms, and your own shapes, I don’t think it works - and I’m pretty sure this was tested during Day1 by a lot of teams?
The whole actual point of this encounter is to make a 3D shape that doesn’t include the ones that were called out for each statue.
You’re essentially creating the *same* key on the outside and inside for the guardian that’s trapped to come out. Call outs starting left to right (or right to left however you prefer)
Example - if you start with CTS, dissector will make a call out of SSCCTT *or* TTSSCC.
If you happen to be the left statue on the inside you are going to either make a cube or prism *according* to the callout made by the outside team.
If your key that you have made matches the same statue on the outside, you can walk-out.
This is the actual encounter and its purpose. Incase if anyone hasn’t noticed this is exactly how it works by *default* even if you’re not doing challenge.
I noticed this when running this encounter on the first few weeks of its release.
I love how the tone in which sneak explains things is exactly how I explain it to my teammates for the 20th time
Sometimes ya gotta yell a lil' bit to get the point across 😅
Watching Datto rage live was hilarious
perfect intro for verity lol
@@SneakyBeaver had the perfect ending too! Was not expecting that. 🤣😂
Thank god someone that can put few words in a sentence that does make sense
Just like the base encounter, difficult to figure out but mindblowingly easy to execute.
You could do this challenge in a normal mode LFG run without ruffling any feathers.
Despite that, I think it's a really cool challenge.
I'm just glad it wasn't "one guy just do square only, then triangle only then circle only"
A simplified method for double shape round....do everything the same as first round and third round, just add one step
1st round: A. Double up
B. distribute
2nd round: A. Double up
B. Distribute (After distribute everyone should have 1 of the shapes they need to keep)
C. Send the remaing shape in your room to the locations that needs it for the end goal sequence
3rd round: A. Double up
B. Distribute
Ps. The c step for round 2, every player should have one shape in thier room they need to keep, so simply grab the one shape you don't need to keep and send it off where it needs to go
Example: the callous of the initial statues is sct so your end result should be Tt Ss Cc or tsc. After the distribution of Double up you keep your one t if your the left side statue, and send the od one out to where it needs to go which in this example would be the c, since after distribution after doubling up your room will have tc, since your the square guy.
Also if your team is proficient at callous then you can skip the distribution step for round 1 and 3, but for some reason you need to have a minkum or 3 to 4 shadow removals before you can leave with double shape on round two, so you will need to double up for round 2
In the second Phase. Cant you just play it normal? Like have everybody do it normally(send circle to the circle statue and so on) and then just send both symbols to the other statue. So if im circle and we established that the middle statue in my case needs the circles cant i just send them the circles 1 at a time? I mean it leads to the same outcome
Outside doesn’t have any other condition then to make the shapes asap?
If the rooms start SCT as video example and you need to make CC-TT-SS. Let’s say the symbols start outside are CT-TS-SC and inside start SCT.
Dissect
1. T from left + C from right
CC-TS-ST
2. S from mid + T from right
CC-TT-SS
3. Win. ?
dissect outside must always be the same as the inside statues. so yea, you need to dissect the same perfect shapes outside, of course after altering the callout.
In your example u did everything correct outside.
Hey Sneak, using your example does Dissection team have to make Sphere, Pyramid, Cube to let the 3 people out with the perfect shape "key"?
Also have another quick question if you don't mind me asking, I'll type out an example scenario of something our team tried so we can understand better.
- Solo players got their perfect shape on the back wall ready to distribute.
- We then dunked 1 at a time but onto the same statue, so Triangle room would dunk both of their triangles one at a time to square statue. This would end up with each player with a perfect shape, but unable to leave. This was done under the impression that you had to cleanse each shape by passing it to a different statue at least once.
In this scenario, dissection had their outside statues matching the perfect shapes being made inside the room.
Does this mean we have the assumption wrong about cleansing a shape? Or is there a mechanical reason you have to get the normal key first, then pass off the shapes? Is getting the normal key tied to the shapes being cleansed and not the amount of passes?
Thank you for the guide, will put it to good use when we run it back! :)
For phase 2 the dissect team does have to follow the "modified" order and make perfect/pure shapes (so if modified was CTS then dissect would create sphere pyramid cube)
as for the rest, not entirely sure tbh since I've never come across that. I would guess it has something to do with shadows removed and it being a requirement to pass certain symbols through the other rooms as a "trigger" even if they won't be finishing on a specific symbol.
can't say for certain tho sorry.
I wonder if perfect shapes was the way Bungie planned to do it since day one.
10/10 end clip 😂
So is the process for the 2nd round inside essentially normal doubles -> normal distribute -> doubles using modified callout -> escape with correct perfect shape.
Hey man, excellent video explanation. My only question is, for round 2, when you're figuring out what the ending shapes need to be, why are you shifting the starting shapes to the right specifically by 2? Wouldn't just shifting them by 1 work as well? i.e. S-C-T -> TT-SS-CC
I feel it's less confusing to just shift by 1.
They still “shifted” only one, but to the left. It’s worded strange, but it’s exactly the same as your suggestion just in the opposite direction.
SCT-> CC TT SS works
SCT-> TT SS CC also works
All that really matters is that you coordinate clearly with your team which method you are doing before hand so you are all on the same page.
AFAIK You can shift either way you'd like, the goal will still be the same,, just comes down to if your team wants to shift the "S" or the "T" in your example.
@@connor1910 Ah, thanks, that makes sense now.
@@SneakyBeaver Gotcha. So you guys shifted left in your example. Thanks! I'm clear on round 2 now.
the real bug happens when an inside player is holding 2 shapes-- itll stop the spawns of all enemies in the other rooms.
except the mentioned bug is during the witness killing you for the first time and in no proper run will anyone ever be holding two shapes at that point in time. I have had MANY runs where the mentioned bug happened and its always been 1 player dying holding a shape or a player dying as they were dunking their one shape.
I can't speak on what happens if someone is holding 2 shapes for whatever reason, but the bug absolutely happens with what I mentioned.
Wouldn't perfect shapes be easier? Literally just operate under the "modified" callout and leave...
No need to double up and distribute, just to double up again.
I think because you see the original callout symbols in your statue and you need to do some minor mental gymnastics and trick your brain. E.g. in the original you're triangle, now you have to operate as if you're square and it might get confusing. Doing it Beavers way with extra steps ensures you don't get confused. But yeah your strat might be easier.
Not sure if you mean start with modified or what but you're required to do alternating 3D shapes so no matter what you're either doing normal-modified-normal or modified-normal-modified
and given that the entire community has done it the "normal" way this whole time it's just less headache and mental gymnastics to say do normal-modified-normal
I can def see people get off guard and think "ok I spawned as triangle" and then completely forget that their modified ending won't be triangle.
Also, regarding the bug with Witness noticing you; it's always after 6 swaps, whether outside or inside.
So do your 6 swaps inside to finish inside before you even touch dissection, then 1 player does the dissection while the other 2 outside do the 3 ghosts.
Yeah, you can do it this way too. As long as no one is trying to bum rush through the encounter and dunk 86 times before the rest and someone gets blindsided lol
Y wouldn't u just transfer ur double triangle to same place and they send u there double square???? That would take a whole step extra away?
Hello, cant the inside people just send a pyramid, sphere and cube (grab the 2 figures) to another statue in phase 2?
For second time where you’re supposed to double up, could the Shadow players not just pick up both of their shapes and wait for outside to make their perfect shape? I.e. get your doubles like normal, then wait for dissection to make a Pyramid for you on outside (if you’re holding Triangle, like in the video)
Nope, as the base encounter does not allow you to make a functional key without giving away both of the starting shapes I.e. you need to cleanse two shapes off your wall before constructing a key with fresh shapes.
Does the perfect shape round also means the outside dissect needs the same perfect shape as the inside player?
Yea I'm pretty sure
Yeah it does. Makes it annoying for dissecting because before every single solution was 2-3 dissections maximum, now its minimum 3 and maximum 4.
yes, dissect team also does perfect shapes.
why the extra step in 2nd phase? when all three players have their doubles, why no just give both your symbols to the "next" statue (clockwise or counter-clockwise). that should also result in having everyone a pure 3D different from your statue
I (think) this was tried and failed.
IIRC this method doesn't have each player remove 2 shadows / get the right shapes passed around so the game does not let you leave.
but its also 4am so i won't say with 100% certainty lol
Can someone clarify? For round 2, does the outside team have to make the normal key first and then dissect to perfect shape or can they dissect the perfect shape right from the start?
you can dissect to perfect shape from the start
Can’t you just get a perfect shape that isn’t your original and leave? Or do you have to have one of each shape before the mirror is unlocked? Once everyone has their dupes pass both to the right (far right passes to the left)and have dissection match it.
C - T - S
SS-CC-TT
Then exit, it would eliminate a lot of passing
I (think) this was tried and failed.
IIRC this method doesn't have each player remove 2 shadows / get the right shapes passed around so the game does not let you leave.
but its also 4am so i won't say with 100% certainty lol
lol got to love datto
Is the triumph working yet?
Yes, he displays it’s tracking now 7:41
Yes, showed the triumph at the end.
Datto is a boss for multi tasking at the end. Lmao
If you can leave with doubled shapes why cant you just make them at the start. Like as soon as you get into the shadow realm you just send every circle to square, every square to triangle, and every triangle to circle?
You can’t leave with a shape that you started out with, it has to be shapes from another room.
The "shadows cleansed" mechanic. On your side, you may have noticed that the shapes the other people's statues are holding disappears. This is because, whenever a shape that your statue isn't holding is dunked on your statue, it removes that shadow. For example, if a square is dunked on a triangle statue, it will remove the square shadow from triangle side (so the person on triangle side will no longer see the square guy holding the square symbol; it just wont be there). All 6 need to be removed, so effectively each side MUST have the other two shapes dunked on it at some point.
Dissection is so annoying on the 2nd phase without the verity app
Ur just bad at dissection...
@@leDevLV yeah, I’m still learning, what’s wrong?
@@leDevLVfound the elitist
i'm genuinely wondering how it is any different than when you play normally
@GCleantho it's not hard bruh
when you're making the perfect shapes and you have doubled up with your corresponding shape, can you not give both your shapes to 1 person (one at a time of course)?
That’s what I was thinking too, it seems like there’s an extra step here if I’m understanding this correctly.
Thats what I was wondering lol.
I think its unclear whether the 'hidden' second requirement of clearing shape shadows off of everyone's inside statue is caused by someone dunking at both statues or by each person dunking twice, regardless of whether it was on both other inside guardians. The main reason just dunking both onto one might be a problem is if you go to the shadow realm and you already have both of your matching shapes, then you only dunk on one guardian and its uncertain whether that will clear the shadow on the other guardian you didn't dunk on. The way described in the video guarantees both instances so its safe to do it this way, but if you want you can try just collecting/distributing to one other person each, and if it worked then your guardian should be the only one holding its shape within the shadow realm. If not then its confirmed that you need to distribute to everyone else at least once.
tested this a few times. we got shapes matching our statues then passed it to the right. it didn't let us out. it likely has to do with removing the "shadows" mechanic and this extra step is what makes sure we can get out
@@a_StrangePlace there's a new method (non-challenge) going around that allows the encounter to be completed by depositing both your starting shapes into 1 other statue. Effectively reducing inside to only 6 deposits no matter what. I'm not sure if challenge has any special requirements tho.
That was our last theory on our way to the Boss bc we have to stop yesterday evenig (Reset in germany is 7pm)
next question: has anyone tried to do perfect shapes that match your statue?
Wont let you out as you have to remove your shapes from your statue
Datto tilting af😂
TBF that bug is incredibly tilting. The entire encounter is visuals and we couldn't see shit lol
Dont get it
....Can you be more specific? lol
@@SneakyBeaver NVM, i have already watched another vid and its more understandable and shorter. Yours contains too much unnecessary information.
@@SneakyBeaver is there a reason you can't just give both your shapes to one player? E.g.
If its CTS and players have CCTTSS, can players not just give both their shapes one at a time to the next player over?
@@lilMarketwhich video did you watch because i dont get it either
@@woegee127 it was a long time ago, check datto