Every Single Raid Ranked Worst to Best (W/ FINAL SHAPE) - Destiny 2
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Every Single Raid Ranked Worst to Best (INCLUDING FINAL SHAPE) - Destiny 2
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This is the ultimate raid ranking video and while I know there is a lot of raids, it should still be stated that there has been 18 of them in Destiny’s 10 year journey since we’re going to include remasters here. In this video we look at every single raid from the original vault of glass to the end of the first sagas raid with Salvations Edge. The criteria is simple for my ranking and hopefully it’s as fair as possible in context. This is a Combination of encounter design, loot, replayability (less waiting mechanics), and day 1 experience. THIS IS NOT FOR STORY REASONS AND FOR LORE. Obviously with a ton of raids there’s a ton to go over, so lets get down to ranking!
18. Eow - bad loot, bad replayability, encounters were bad outside of boss, bad day 1.
17. Crota D1 - good loot, encounter design is solo, long day 1 and not bad.
16. RON - okay loot, encounter design is solo, bad day 1.
15. GoS - bad loot, encounter design is unique, good day 1.
14. CoS - bad loot, great encounter design, poor day 1.
13. KF - boring loot, encounter design got old, great day 1.
12. VOG - day 1 was long, loot was best, replayability, encounters old.
11. Levi - replayable, loot for the time, aged poorly, day 1 was good for the intro.
10. CROTA REMAKE - loot, day 1, replayability/encounter questionable with the waiting
9. SOTP - great loot, good encounter design, poor day 1.
8. Spire of Stars - day 1, replayable final boss, loot was bad.
7. VOG remaster - loot, replayability, day 1 decent
6. KF remake - loot is okay, replayability, day 1 slight better, encounter design is much better.
5. DSC- encounter design, loot, replayability, atraks highlight but day 1 too easy.
4. WOTM - encounter design, loot, replayability, bad day 1
3. VOTD - everything but the connection issues.
2. LW - everything, but aged.
1. Salvation Edge - everything
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Only saving grace I give Ron is that it’s very fun to two and three man. Weird since it’s a raid, but honestly one of the best times I have raiding is just 3 man shenanigans
Honestly if ron was redesigned a little more it could have been a great Dungeon. And then still used the planet encounter for the raid for that year
@@minecraftdragon8583 pretty solid example. Honestly planets was the only thing tripping me and my brother up during some not so serious duo flawless attempts. Honestly I’ve forgives Ron, as it really is just the fastest and most braindead raid to run. Definitely not the best, but I have just loved doing random stuff in that raid
3 man Crown is the most fun I've ever had. I had a 6 person team fall apart on 2nd encounter and 1 guy asked if he could invite his friend in. Said friend joined and they gave me a little time and coaching to make sure I understood the nuances and then, a few tries later, we got it all done. It's a great experience because it's all about knowing exactly what comes next and being there ready to go instead of just reacting to the game prompts and being too slow to keep up with a 3 man's needs.
@@VallornDeathblade exactly why I love it so much. It is predicated on your extensive knowledge of the raid/encounter as well as being able to execute it twice as effectively as a normal raider
WRATH IS NUMBER ONE IN D1 PLAYER’S HEARTS!!
Always will be
You guys always say this but come on it’s not. Its a very cool raid with good loot but I’d never put it at 1
Hot take but, Wrath isn't even that great IMO, sure it's got great weapons and decent looking armor but the encounters feel dull
@@deathbringer5743 nah bro you’re right siva lovers are just coping
@@greenlukesky4615ur favorite raid is probably eater of worlds
Salvation’s Edge is definitely not high on replay-ability as an LFG player.
idk salvations edge plate encounters get stale pretty quickly. 4th encounter is fun, but I wish everyone could be involved for the boss instead of 3 people on ad clear.
Consider: chaos run where each person gets glyphbreaker XD (its actually pretty fun and super chaotic, if ur dissatisfied id recommend it)
I will say that the last encounter should have had at least one more person be active but I love this raid
While I agree, me and my clannates have found this right balance for roles: I'm the one doing heavy lifting in 4th encounter, so against the Witness I'm just chilling on ad clear while they do the mechanic 😂
imo the final boss is also too predictable and repetitive after the first clear. And 3rd encounter kinda just feels like it was added so it would be a 5 encounter raid instead of the usual 4. 3rd doesn't really add anything to the experience beyond the square buff introduction. Otherwise the raid is great but I would still put Vow, Last Wish, and Wrath higher.
I feel that way, the first 3 encounters are pretty bad, but verity is really fun and felt like niobe labs on day 1. The witness is fairly easy though, damage isn't that hard but it does keep you on your toes
I despise how GoS had reskinned armor and not unique armor. The black garden has some cool designs they could have incorporated into armor. Hell, I’d even take pyramidion armor where it looks like we are wearing the pyramid ships themselves, given what happens at the end.
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for some reason they switched the raid armor to the season pass
@@controlleronpceasywin2978 source?
Telesto catalyst wasn't added with Solstice of Heroes in year 1, Prestige Eater of Worlds and Spire of Stars released a few weeks before Solstice of Heroes.
I got mine in prestige eater of world's. I also got the glowing armor ornaments too. Great memories for sure
Where’s my garden gang at? We may be small but by god we try anyway
Garden of salvation unironically most fun raid. Tether mechanic is prob the best mechanic out of every raid. Problem is that they decided to make picking up gambit motes more important than the genuinely fun and new tether mechanic that required actual coordination with other players.
If they just made tether more important in 2nd, 3rd and final encounter it'd be top tier. Also black garden is hands down the best location in all of destiny (PERSONALLY)
Conceptually its my favorite raid, and its the one I know the least about, I basically got my div and never ran it again, but I've been going back and getting all the raid seals, so I cant wait to play it more :)
Here. 🙋
Wrath might be my number 1 but Garden is definitely on my top 5.
The fact that Crown and Spire of Stars are ranked higher than Garden of Salvation is criminal.
Crown was fun but spire should be ranked 19.. like it’s that bad
I hoping most of the raids that got sunsetted do get some remasters or reworks and then be implemented back into the game. Also, I hope the current raids like Garden of Salvation gets some updates to its loot pool like how Deep Stone and Last Wish got
Seeing the original d1 kingsfall gameplay hit a special piece of nostalgia for me. It was when destiny was still kinda new and mysterious, the k8ngs fall raid and all off ttk were awesome to me. It also just so happened to be right when rick and morty launched as well and I would usually think of one when playing or watching the other.
I’d say last wish and salvation’s edge are very interchangeable personally, which is great because honestly I never thought we’d get something on last wish’s level again. My only real complaint with salvation’s edge is just the lack of a third boss. If the raid had say a dual subjugator boss fight where they were as active and dangerous as rhulk it would be pure perfection, but as it sits I’m still very satisfied. Vow is still my personal favorite though followed closely by scourge. Rhulk is my goat.
One thing you gotta give Crown is the Hunter helmet is one of the drippiest helmets in the game.
Salvation's Edge is a fantastic raid, but I think Last Wish deserves to be #1 instead for the simple fact that Riven doesn't limit what builds you can run while the Witness pretty much locks out an entire class (though, this has more to do with Titans being powercrept into a state of crisis.)
Salvations edge could really use a 3rd boss fight. I know they seem to he switched to 2/3 encounters and 2 boss fights but man.. another rhulk or nezarec-esque encounter in salvatioms edge would be incredible.
Saying they're locked out of DPS is completely ridiculous melodrama. Guns are 90% of what matters for DPS. No need for quirky shit either, just throw on Scintillation or Doomed Petitioner and you're literally fine. Still Hunt Celestial is higher damage but you're 2 phasing either way.
Im all for reevaluating Titans identity, but this whole "Titans are unplayable for everything" shit is annoying melodrama
@@PorcuDuckSlug Agreed for most things, in normal raids/gms this is a generally true thought. But as someone who frequently does master/low man raids, and after seeing each titan on my day 1 team get forced to switch because they didn't have enough damage, I have to disagree. Even as a warlock, whenever I do master raids or low mans, no matter how good they are, I always see titans struggling more at dps, obviously you wont see it in easier shit, but its noticeable.
@@PorcuDuckSlug I didn't say that they were unplayable for everything, I said that they're effectively locked out of the Witness bossfight. The two most damaging Titan supers can't be used on the boss, meaning their supers are relegated to just ad-clear when that's already on lockdown because of the fact that the Heavy slot isn't necessary for damage. Furthermore, that 10% a Super can contribute can be the difference between wiping due to insufficient damage and killing the boss, and when Titans are already forced to do subpar damage thanks to having to use Linears they need all the options they can get to keep up with the rest of the team while they themselves really don't bring anything to the table.
@@EepyGirlLava SE is the ONLY raid titans struggle with, every other raid has tons of solo content with titans
I still think Garden's mechanics are head and shoulders above a lot of raids you ranked higher.
The loot is good, not great, but the experience and div quest are just awesome
I think the fact LW has 4 bosses vs SE 2 makes up for the aging of the raid. I also really just like the dreaming city playspace more than the one we got for SE. But those 2 are for sure 1 and 2
The armor you showed for EoW was the armor from Leviathin
he just violated crota's end remastered but i can see the chalice timer beign annoying for some people
Considering most of the raid is waiting for a timer, yes it’s pretty shabby.
GARDEN is one of the best raids EVER!!! Every encounter is different and the boss is beefy. The art is AMAZING too. Crown rated higher than GOS might be an ACTUAL CRIME.
The only thing salvation’s edge did wrong was have underwhelming and boring armor that looks weird
Like every new raid since leviathan? Idk, they all look weird.
@@mylittledota4653 DSC has some the coolest armor if you ignore the helmet
LW will forever be my #1, I don't care how many people disagree. LW was the most impactful raid I had ever been a part of.
Zip last wishes pants up when you are done over there buddy
It's a good raid but my god is it overrated
Saying the 5 other legendaries in kings fall are not that good is wild. Doom of Chelchis is one of the best scout rifles and smite is a pretty decent pulse.
Was looking for this Evan. Never fail to deliver!
Craziest 10 Years of Destiny Ever
Out here repping GoS as my favorite raid still lol.
Last Wish is still my #1
Bro eater of worlds was a raid lair, is unfair to compare it to full raid 😂
GoS being way lower than leviathan is just criminal.
I feel like garden gets way to much hate for no reason, i think its mainly because of it coming right off of forsaken and then took so long until dsc
Mechanics are weird and don't work sometimes.
@@mylittledota4653 mechanics work fine you just aren't good at doing them
“Why are we travelling away from the main story of the game” going to neomuna is the main story to stop the witness getting the veil
I like Evan but docking a raid due to DDOS attacks, something completely outside the raid, is actually just dumb
i mean let's put it this way, the raids day 1 was impacted heavily whether it was in control or not, but aside from that the raids day 1 was easier due to overleveling
I've the same top 5 (minus Wrath bc I didnt play it; so KF in its place) but I have Salvedge at #2 and LW for #1 (razer thin difference) only bc Witness feels mechanically simple.
I actually came up a raid idea my own that has the winnower as the final boss and I call this raid Winnower's will
Winnower's will has 8 encounters 5 of them are bosses 1 puzzle encounter like vault and verity wich is the 6th encounter and 1st encounter bieng like acquisition like encounter from vow and the winnower boss fight has 2 encounters in one room and before the 1st encounter is a entrance like kings fall and between each encounter except between the winnower and the queenswalk like encounter has traversal sections and really longs ones too
“Eater of worlds armour is perfect for my titan.”: *shows Leviathan armour*
Top 3 in no specific order:
Levi
Last Wish
Garden
both versions of vog over garden is criminal
Wow… I did NOT expect to disagree with this video as much as I did. Would have to replay the D1 Raids to get a real grip on it but dang. Only one I will say is I freaking love GoS lol. Great video as always though.
Wrath or Edge is my guess on #1 let’s see if I’m right!
Let’s be honest second half of CoS was some of the best high intensity action destiny has ever done. I am not a puzzle guy so I prefer action instead of solve this. So my opinion is probably far off from the res of the community but I have had a pretty bad experience with SE. the timing is too tight without a clan team. People quit way to quick and are just unwilling to adjust their playstyle for the raid. Last wish #1.
Honestly, your Top 5 aligns with mine. For awhile, Deep Stone was everything. Every single week my clan was in there doing mutliple runs. We mastered that raid. And yeah, it's so very tragic that Wrath of the Machine hasn't been remade for D2 yet.
Edge is so good it doesn’t have as many bosses as wish or kf but each encounter feels so meticulously designed
The main reason (above others) that Last Wish clears Edge is that every encounter is far more memorable. Like without looking it up, what is the first encounter of Edge called? Because everyone knows what the first of LW is. And everyone says Edge is better because of Verity but that is so different than the rest of the raid, it may as well have been pulled from a completely different raid.
DSC in top 5 makes me happy. Thats my personal favorite raid, that shouldn't be number 1 but is because nostalgia. Incredible loot, music, design, and its fallen enemies which is always a fun time. The next 3 are hard to choose. I really like Salvations edge, Vow, and Last Wish. I think if I had a gun to my head it would be that order: DSC, SE, Vow, LW. I didn't play Destiny until Beyond Light so I never played the old D2 or D1 raids.
I've played every raid at this point from D1 to D2 and I would put DSC at #1 because it's as close to a perfect raid as exists for the average player. The mechanics are a nice medium complexity that actually get people involved. The loot is some of the best looking ever in destiny and especially perks wise. Like even Bequest is still unbeaten in sword dps. The armor alllooks fantastic to. And the music... enough said. Also the lore that it added for Clovis Bray is just so so good.
@@oxsila The difficulty is perfect for newer/casual players. Its a great first raid. I mean RoN is a good first raid to drag someone through but DSC is a good first raid to have someone do mechanics in.
Still think the majority of RON was supposed to be a dungeon
Are you going to make the WOW players trying the destiny raids you mentioned on the side into a video? I would love to see that
yeah! It's a big time commitment but im excited for it!
Having been at least 10 years of following Destiny content I haven’t actually touched any Raids yet because I don’t have friends
The thing about oryx fighting back is you're immune the entire time. It'd be difficult to make him fight back.
Gonna be honest, I know the community is in a honeymoon phase with Salvation’s edge, but once the ends I don’t see that raid staying top 3. It’s mainly because of the first half, especially encounter 2 & 3 which are easily some of the most forgettable raid encounters in the franchise.
Yup. This is the take I’ve been coming to terms with
Where would you put it though
I love encounter 2 but I can agree with you on encounter 3 being a little forgettable
wtf? I love the herald fight!
I think it’s fun as like a campaign conclusion and everything but it lacks that WOW moment for me that a lot of the other raids have. No Siege Engine, Space Walk with Deep Stone Lullaby, Leviathan Underbelly, Pyramid Traversal of Vow, Black Garden windmills, etc. it feels like it was designed as a major challenge and a fight to the end with mechanics and everything but it just lacks the moments I show to my non-Destiny friends to be like “look how cool this is!” I think in a year or so the raid will likely drop in rankings once we’re out of the Final Shape / Witness honeymoon era and it’s no longer our big threat. Definitely a top 10 but I don’t feel it’s a top 5 if that makes sense.
Salvations edge as #1 is a tough call. Considering its only been out for a very short time and has already been speed ran in 25 mins is kinda crazy
I love Garden, but I gotta agree on some point here
Once you have a team that knows how things work and can do it it's wonderful. If not, well...
Crota remaster. Good raid, way to boring for my ass.
Vow is the reason I want Pantheon back. Caretaker and Rhulk were just so good on their own, but damn, without Pantheon they just feel way to easy
21:26 Atheon just zoomin
Now we need to find a way to break shiro's Shield and do the puzzle by ourselves and beat vault and last wish is fully soloable on hunter.
4:47 black spindle was d1 whisper
Like always an excellent video.
Great vid as always Evan
Vow will always be my number one. My favorite day one experience to this day, even though I didn't finish it.
Wrath of the machine holds a special place in my heart, it's in my top 3 definitely, It was my very first raid that I started and completed with the same fireteam (due to my personal life I never had the chance to play the previous ones in the right way, VOG and Crota loot was not updated with the actual power level so wasn't worth apart from the pleasure of doing them, and I played King's fall in chunks, every encounter with a different team), I loved the encounters, I loved all the bosses, I FUCKING LOVED THE SCORE (the tune that plays during the wipe mechanic still haunts my dreams and everyone who played that raid knows exactly what I'm talking about), I will never forget the feeling to having finally made it.
Last Wish and Salvation Edge at top shit as of today, but WOTM is the GOAT in my heart.
I’d like them to bring back vaulted raids. Never did Spire and Crown, and I miss my Leviathan and Scourge.
My personal favorite raids in order are:
1 -King's Fall (either version)
2-Salvation's Edge
3-Vow of the Disciple
4-Deep Stone Crypt
5-three way tie between Last Wish, Wrath of the Machine and VoG
Just me personally
haven't finished the video yet, but inb4 recency bias of salvations edge being top 2
update: nailed it (ty evan for also admitting potential recency bias)
Last Wish is Number 1.
Each encounter was unique. No real overlap. Everything stays fresh.
Best final boss fight in history and it's not even close imo.
Salvation's Edge:
Encounter 2 should have been a two subjugator bosses in the pit- strand and stasis forcing groups to split into two teams on DPS.
Encounter 3 was a huge waste and should have been a scrapped for different encounter entirely.
Everything else is perfect imo.
I might be in the minority but i realized why i love RoN, vow and salvations so much. I love the fact the "god" boss talks to you throughout your trip to them. Yes ron has some weak spots but i still enjoy the journey because of how he communicates. I love vow and my group constantly jokes about "the upended". I would love to have seen kings fall where we get a voice for oryx as it adds so much depth to the boss youre about to kill. If they dont communicate, i fewl like you lose a lot. Just me though
Leviathan's design was so good. The interconnected nature was the best.
Titan titan armor at 3:40 was from normal Leviathan. I have it, never did the raid lairs after.
Yeah that was a weird mistake
14:47 we kind of have the d1 year one system at least in the sense that every item has a level or light level and in order to reach max level you need every item to be max level.
Good list. While I may not entirely agree with some, your points and opinions on why things are where they are is well laid out. That armor set you show in the video for titan during Eater of Worlds was the set from Leviathan. Titan set from Eater was the Nohr Suit.
Hot take, personally, just because of the pace my team was on until we hit Rhulk (we got only 1 error code, and I think it was super early, like we had only spent 5-10 minutes, and that was it) we didn’t think of Charged With Light w/Radiant Light strat, but legitimately were in Top 50 contention, and just didn’t fully optimise damage, VoW is my Top Raid experience. I don’t think I had a Day 1 completion up until VoG remaster (not even being toxic, my teams were too casual, or I just didn’t have a team on certain Day 1’s), so yeah. It’s been a rocky ride, that’s for sure haha.
Spire at 8 above scourge, crown, garden, ron, leviathan og kf is crazy
I hope crown gets some sort of a remaster. The last two encounters are such a fun use of a fun mechanic and the final galran encounter is such chaos with callouts and mechanics. But yeah I genuinely don't have much memory of the earlier sections. I also like galran's right hand (the auto rifle)
For those hoping for a wrath of the machine remake, and say that they wont because of the Siva assets. The husk new dread enemy has a VERY similar feel to one of the more major aspects of Siva fallen. Coding that to be a little different + a change of style would not be that difficult i think. SO THERE IS HOPE
Salvations edge is hard because of the teamwork part of it. I honestly think it’s a raid (with the right team) you can successfully do the way it is intended underleveled. This raid is NOT an LFG raid, specifically for the rescuing gaurdian part in encounter 4, there’s no bad guys, just call outs, and when it’s a bunch of strangers…. Good fuckin luck
Nailed it. VOW & Last Wish are my favorite raids. But Salvations Edge deserves deserves to be in the top 3.
Watching knowing I haven’t done any raids since I played destiny 😂
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I am personally biased towards Wrath, I remember pulling and all nighter and blind running everything. The outbreak puzzle was so cool and the final boss room was probably the coolest set pieces I've ever seen
You should do that world of Warcraft thing but with Verity. See how long it takes them to figure out Verity
how come no one’s talking about he put d1 kings fall lower than d1 vault of glass
I love salvation edge as 1# but to call it’s loot the best of all time is the craziest statement 😂
Wotm will always be my favorite. Great loot, great encounters, everyone was constantly running around doing something, it was so chaotic. You had the outbreak prime quest too. Plus the music slaps.
Salvations edge is VERY close to being number 1 for me tho. The only issue with it is that the herald is kind of generic and the glaive and sword are just meh
3:43 that is def not the EoW set, you silly goose
i know that post saying sep 9th 2024 for the complete light and dark saga on pc is probably april fools since it was posted april first... still going to be looking on steam sep 9 2024 tho. if they did that, remastered raids and all... they have my money. and i will prob buy a headset and mic and join a clan and try raids at least.
looking forward to raid cheese pt 2
I’m so glad spire is ranked top 10 at least. I loved that raid so much even tho at the time I was a raid report nerd 😂. Spire was so fun and I agree its main issue is the loot granted in y1 loot was bad overall. If they bring it back they need to add an energy primary, another special (sniper, rocket sidearm or slug shotgun maybe?), and a sword and it’s got a standard loot pool
My issue with edge of salvation was that the witness felt TOO much like oryx, this is the big bad of destiny that’s the reason for everything we’ve done…a being that is genuinely a true god…and we get to stand in a circle and shoot his chest. Using his own attacks against him in some form or having to do a more lore appeasing damage phase would’ve been an amazing send off that goes into excision (which is also basically shoot glowy chest)
love the vids evan keep them coming!
Remastered KF weapons really only have like 3 gems: the scout, the HC, and Touch. The LMG is alright but its got poor trait synergy, and the other weapons basically just have better ones to replace them with.
Defiance of Yasmin is a solid PvP sniper
Came in, saw RoN ranked at 16. Justice has been served.
I don't doubt the SEdge is great, but I'll never know because it's so damn challenging that none of my friends want to run it, and nobody in the community outside youtube wants to teach. It will probably be a year or do before I get to try it, and I honestly don't know if I will be playing destiny at that point.
I will not accept anything other than Kings Fall for that #1 spot
Salvation edge is a good raid but i don’t think deserves to be #1? Only two bosses, 3rd encounter fills a like a filler where last wish has everything
Idk you putting garden of salvation that low is actually criminal like huh? That was a great raid
Unpopular opinion probably, but the final witness fight in salvation's edge is probably the most disappointing final boss out of any raid. Mechanics can be done by 2 people. The difficulty part comes from ads(sheer amount + subjugators) and not the mechanics. If you are doing adclear, it feels like a strike tbh
i think if wrath came back it would be the next to wear the crown
Idk about Salvation being number 1? I think that’s the honeymoon phase talking, top ten sure but it says a lot that the final boss is half the team doing ad clear now.
King’s Fall will always be number one to me 🖤
My top 3
Salvations Edge
Vow Of The Disciple
Last Wish
For me leviathan is right there with og crota as being my least favorite raids and boring in my opinion
I suppose its a hottake for now but salvations edge doesnt rank that highly for me. Doesnt rank super low either but some of the issues I feel it has are some of the most important aspects of raids for me. Among them, the total size of it, the first boss and encounter 3 being incredibly forgettable, the lack of loretabs on the loot, and the guardian/ghost part of 4th encounter just being a pain in the ass imo and almost ruining the encounter for me. Other than the first encounter, puzzle aspect of 4th and the witness, I get into it. If i want a pyramid themed raid, Ill defer to vow everytime
How is remastered VoG better than remastered Crota lol. Vault is an ad clear raid with ZERO resistance until Atheon with WAYYY worse loot.
Idgaf what anyone says, King’s Fall will always be my favourite raid of all time
necrochasm was not a solid choice