THE KORG ELECTRIBE EMX-1 IS ALREADY A LEGEND
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Wow 😮 ! What do you put on the Master ?
The encoder fix is easy. It's happening because of an electromagnetic field building up between the power supply and the main PCB. Open it up and put a thin piece of plastic between the two, and it's fixed. People have even used baking parchment paper successfully.
I’ll also add, Syntaur carries pretty much any part for that, that could have issues, and prices are pretty cheap.
I’m having issues with my arp fader, it doesn’t respond, and it has resistance when I move it. (Pretty sure someone hit it and maybe bent it) but if I can’t get that working, I’m going to order a new one e.
its mind blowing that no one has been able to create a groovebox with the power of this almost 20 year old synth engine, vacuum tubes, and p-lock style motion sequencing multitimbrality. so insane to have that formant synthesis, waveshaping, wavefolding, resonators, granular effects, maco osc, dope filters, distortion. even the syntakt doesnt have all of these features
That's why I consider adding an EMX to side with my Syntakt...
Are you forgetting about the octatrack…
@christdolphin69 Found you again! Man, I've been looking for one of these the past some years, but they are not as affordable as they were when I was 16..
This ranked as one of my favorite reviews ever
Bought my current EMX for £80 in Cash-Convertors Bethnal Green in 2009. They were considered a "joke" and a "toy" back then, when everyone was obsessed with fancy plugins on Quad Core DAWs and vintage 80's x0x boxes... well, now EMX1 is vintage, and has a proven reputation on record and on stage. In 20 years this will be as revered as the tb303 is. It already reaches £1000 on ebay for mint examples. It defined the sound of the 00's and much of 10's. And the best thing about it is that it still has hidden tricks up its sleeves that no one has tried yet...
bless you EMX1. You're the Gibson Les Paul '59 of EDM (the MPC2000 is the Fender Strat!) May your tubes stay warm for ever...
You're a legend on these boxes.
The things Mistabishi did with this box were impressive.
to true. ive looked at all the setting's of his patterns. really complex stuff. the guy is a genius sound designer.
He used to go out and play entire live sets to big crowds with just the EMX1.
My Emx-1 is one of my prized possessions; I’ll never sell it.
Agreed!
this was my first synthesizer and the only thing I made music on for nearly a decade
it is not perfect, I always look back and wish I would have purchased a monomachine about 5 years in
but still, it has a place in my heart
as for the fix, everyone suggesting deoxit and replacing encoder, it's all worth trying
but as someone who's owned multiple of these machines, the most common fix is to open it up and place a sheet of baking paper between the circuit boards
they have a tendency to touch each other over time, which can cause some weird glitching with the front panel interface, I forget if this exact problem is solved by this
but if nothing else works, it is worth a try, I've done it before and it has fixed similar issues
Bought an EMX-1 today (in great condition) but immediately experienced buyer's regret as soon as I pulled the trigger because I started second-guessing whether I should have gone for the EMS-1. This video helped me feel better about my purchase. I guess the optimum thing would be to have both. I just have to keep reminding myself that there ARE things the EMX can do that the EMS cannot.
Took Joey less than 5 mins to conjure all-out industrial mayhem.
i know it made my fucking ears bleed, i had to stop the video.
@@shonkyboyill take the industrial ear bleed over some ambient jam anyday
Best demo I’ve heard of this… I’ve gotta get one now 🤯
Lol, really? There are some ridiculously beautiful EMX videos on TH-cam.
Encoder Fix: The issue that the Electribe X's have is that the circuitboard is way too close to the metal casing. As such, after using it a while, the faceplate will bend in just enough to make contact, shorting the encoders. There's a very easy fix to this: Open it up, take a sheet of parchment paper (or newspaper if you're a cheapass like me), and put it against the circuit board. Close it up, and you'll see an immediate difference nearly every time.
no this isn't the fix! its your ribbon cable going bad.......why does everyone think the faceplate is bending enough to short to the pcb??? literally been trying to fight this disinformation for nearly a decade. (btw the only reason you saw results its because when you opened the unit up you were forced to move/jiggle the ribbon cable, your problem will come back, and you can force it to by moving the cable with it powered on if you don't believe me)
Encoder fix: if it is anything like my asrx encoders you gotta clean out the inside of the encoder with some contact cleaner, it isnt hard to do though! Open it up and using a small screwdriver lift up the 4 tabs that are holding down the top part of the encoder. Be careful as you don’t want to break them off. Use a qtip and contact cleaner to get all the little dirty bits out of there, on the wheel and the contact. Be very gentle! Put it back together and it should work great, make sure to push those tabs back down really good or it will be wobbly. Good luck!
How long will this usually be good for before it needs to be re-cleaned?
@@dodgedforgottenn In my experience once you clean it the first time it will work smoothly for potentially years, although I am sure it depends the quality of encoder, how much use it gets etc
In the Electribes the problem normally is not the encoder itself but a loose ribbon cable.
Search for: Korg EMX Knob Jitter in 2017
You can grab replacement encoders online - have your local synth shop swap it out
Super common issue with these electribes
e.g. th-cam.com/video/Zd_NHbw3-Mw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uNsaY-sySOjFklHN
Been loving my EMX-1 for years! And the tubes!
I bought one of these at a pawn shop for $340 in 2015. I had been out of music for more then a decade so I shoved it away into storage. I didn't realize what I had! Thanks for the sonic workout! Can't wait to dig this baby out, clean the contacts, and get to work!
I love this box, it has everything, my kids love to play with it as well...wish there was something like this on the market with so well thought user interface and workflow
I just replaced my encoder with a brandnew one - desoldering and soldering is easy, and it didn´t cost the world. Furthermore i renewed the valves. Now the whole machine works as brandnew, and it sounds amazing.
Love the enthusiasm btw, I totally understand when you're making a banger tune and in the flow :)
If you hold down shift while moving the rotary it will allow you to skip in bigger chunks, so you can get to say the hi hat section quicker. This is what I do to get into the rough drum section, then use the rotary as normal to select the sound (eventually).
I've the same skipping issue but not as bad. Scrolling from the Bass drums up to the Hi Hats is pretty tough for me unless I go super slow, so I use the shift function to get me in the rough area first.
Hell yeah loving the crazy sounds you’re getting there
The. Best. Musical. Instrument. EVER BUILT.
All hail ye Olde Blue Psytrance King!
My EMX-1's encoder issue grew worse over time--same thing, jittering values during use. I had the encoder replaced and repaired, and it's worked fine since.
Now I try to reduce the wear and tear on it by using shift functions to scroll through the sample list. It's handy when there's a lot of selections to move through. If that main encoder were larger, or had a jog wheel, that'd be quite something.
According to the repair guy I went with, the encoder seems to wear down the notches inside when it's spun quickly. I tried to be careful with mine, but it was pre-owned when I got it, too, so who knows how wildly it was used in the past. Cleaning might work if those notches aren't actually worn down yet. I imagine as you clean it, you may notice if the notches on the encoder are smoothed down from use or abuse.
I'm glad the older Electribes are getting some attention, though! Best of luck with the encoder issue.
YES
i brought one of these in the late 90s, its safely stored away in my bros Attic because i felt it was going to be a classic at some point - glad to hear other agree with my prediction, thanks for reminding me how awesome it was
This machine is an absolute beast when you really familiarize yourself with it and really unlock its potential, without anything else. I’ve been watching a lot of vids of people doing psytrance on it and am super impressed. I wish u had used mine a lot more over the years, but never really went deep into it.
Three things I love, 1, you can use it as a midi controller for other synths, and 2, you can route any instrument out of the LR bus (no effects just dry) to send to external FX, and 3, you can use the built in fx on external instruments via the audio in.
This was my first synth, I thought back in 2005, and it still works amazing.
I love my emx-1 and use it on almost every track i make. It has features like 128 step patterns which a lot of modern boxes dont have. It is also pretty great as a midi master and I like to run a couple of synths off it. It is great to create tracks standalone just using it by itself, but superb to use combined with an esx-1 sampler!
the mx as the master synth is really cool, i’ve combined it with the model D, really fun.
i love how so much different music can be made with the electribes. i’ve been combining the sx and mx together, it’s a powerhouse. i want to buy a second MX and have double the synth channels.
You made this look like so much fun to use 😜
They're a lot of fun, i had two for a while and would sync them. Liked making drum and bass on them, just felt natural to come up with something quick rather programming everything meticulously on the computer.
I have three of these ,, In Perfect condition ,,,I bought them ten years ago ,,,I love them use them for all kids of drums and synths with other synths
You turn CHAOS into ART !
Cheers 🥂
Dude... nothing beats old Electribes. Tube compression rocks, sound engine is so much better then nowadays on E2S. You said it best - It IS a legend.
Electribe 2 are shit.
I have all series from 2001.
But I stopped at MX and SX.
I used often to control other machines.. from MX's five synth parts.
But nowdays I have a keystep too.
No your completly wrong. This is actuall the middle gen electribe not old
@@scowlsmcjowls2626 the valve electribe..MX and SX are the best combo ever made.
Electribe 2 sounds like a PC plug-in..
and I don't play with a soundcard.
@@Sandelec-gm2cl no no that one had the same engine as the microkorg so they corrected it. Look maybe its a matter of taste but i felt left down in a sense by it
That sounds wicked. I'm kinda surprised Korg hasn't tried to re-release this bad boy.
They have, and failed
they did. they re-release electribe's - they were all shit.
Those newer ones don't count. Cause they look and play like a completely different inferior instrument. I had one and hated it.
Check Electribe 2 Blue ;)
shit@@aki_gong6271
How is it possible that I'm just talking about this box with a friend and you did a video on it an hour ago haha. Stars have aligned...
Great video. I have several grooveboxes and the EMX-1 has always been one of favourites.
One thingt I noticed: The Korg grooveboxes are not the only ones that can do 128 steps - the MC-707 can do that as well! (And it has a sampler to chop up samples, a looper and the Zencore synth engine - it's pretty awesome. My favourite groovebox of them all, I like it even better than the Syntakt.)
The arp strip is amazing for drum fills.
The EMX is a beast! It was my 2nd synth, got it in 2012 and it's still my favorite. Industrial, Breaks, Noise, Psycore, no problem with this gem! Great for jamming, you get awesome results in no time. Hook up a KaossPad and you got a simple yet powerful live setup. Thanks for the review!
I didn't buy one coz i was waiting on Electribe 2... What a mistake it was!
@@djkanyon I also had the new one...sold it after a couple of weeks. What a downgrade xD I mean battery-powered to go experience and mini KaossPad aside... that thing is awful. The old emx otoh always makes me smile. Had some issues with the button contacts: graphite spray. Audio-outs were unbalanced: there's tutorials for calibration. Glad I never had the encoder sh*t mentioned in the vid. This old groovebox you can take apart, repair and reassemble as a noob or take to any vintage hifi shop and get help. Love it
@M0RGue0Nslaught have you any video about your productions with MX??
i think this was for the encoder issue but a friend of mine back in the day had to put parchment paper under the top panel between the it and the circuit board because there was something touching the panel or something like that that was causing it to short out.
This is the best energy I’ve ever seen in a review. When you say “yes!” it rocks so much 😅 def subscribing and I’m not even in this genre cheers!
I got the EMX.. and i love to just take it on my lap in the living room and play around . Its a special device as you can master like and instrument and make complete tracks and live sets with it, some limitation will spark your creativity . and let not forget that it looks cool also ! :) There is a guy mihail shevchenko (enformin) who has master this device and done some crazy live sets on youtube !
Hey man if you're still looking, I fixed my main selector encoder last night by dousing the internal pot with pure alchohol, the electronics cleaning stuff. I wiggled it about 100 times vigorously, dried it out for an hour and it works fine now, touch wood. I'm.sure it will only last so long but its awesome right now 😅
Edit: I had exactly the same problem...now fixed without opening up the machine. did the same to the Arp slider and its much better now. 🎉
This one sounds amazing.
Adoro a maneira como tu exploras as máquinas ao máximo 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I was able to fix that encoder on an electribe with a couple blasts of contact cleaner.
I love this box man. Mine is so fucked up, the push buttons don't work nicely anymore and a lot of the knobs are busted as well, the encoder though, works perfectly haha.
I really wish I could get it repaired but it seems hard in my area.
8 bar sequencer, make BIG ass kicks using the synth part and the LFO Slope waveform, the FX chaining section while limited, can get you some crazy results.
Encoder-fix:
Its not the encoder itself but a ribboncable inside that connects the 2 boards which becomes loose.
Search for: Korg EMX Knob Jitter in 2017
Hermoso y demoledor 🔥
A true spirit Polygon WINDOW 😊😊😊😊😊
You deserve a shit ton more subs!!!
Yes!
YESSS!!!
yeah...favorite groovebox of all time
We now need a RadiasTribe for our sonic future !
Try deoxit on the encoder. That fixed the exact same issue on my dsi polyevolver. Worth a shot.
yes
My first Electronic instrument and i love it, unfortunately it doesn't work so well anymore. I tried to fix it... I spent many hours on the electribe emx1 !
They rock even more I'd u pop in some Mullard tubes... I wish Korg was wise enough to include the filter drive model on more of their gear produced thereafter from these EMX1'S. Cause it's a huge part of why these Korgs are as good for dirty techno 4 sure imo
What a friggin powerhouse... I had one like 18 years ago or something and I was too stupid to know how good it was... Although I sold it for more money than I got it for, a few years later...
People really didn't take them seriously back in the day.
YESSSSS
is there a way to exchange the stock drum samples?
so true bestie
Did you experiment with swapping the tubes? It may provide some benefit. Also, there's some audio feedback trick people used to do, but I don't remember the details.
I don’t think he did, otherwise Mr.Blush Response would have said something. That would have been a stock EMX 1. Now the sounds he got out that thing…different story.
Great machine, a bit overpriced on second hand market for my taste for many years already tho :)
I had the chance of getting a second hand Electribe 2 Blue for less than 250€ and definitely worth giving it a try Joey, as I seriously think it is such a great successor to that one, and much more affordable ^^ and I seriously believe didn't have a hype just yet.
Great content as usual, keep it up!
Where can i get a good sample pack
(4real) *ENCODER FIX >>>* The encoder wheel is completely fine do not try to fix this issue by cleaning any of its knobs and wheels! *Here is why:* The glitches R occurring cos residual current is induced in its circuit. Most of this electro-magnetism gets emitted from the analogue tube- and digital pre-amps build into the E-TRIBES. So in oder to isolate the encoder-mainboard (also carrying the front panel LCD-Display) from the magnetic field ---> get some baking paper(!) and put it between the front-plate layers who is A.) carrying the encoder-mainboard and B.) - the lowest layer where U can find the Faraday cage, housing the tube-amp. Baking paper is heat resistant and electrically isolating because of its silicon coating. It gets the job done perfectly! After fixing yo E-MX/SX U will also experience an even much more crisp looking LCD-Display which gets dimmed by the magnetic field radiating from the build in pre-amps, before the fix. It took me quite a while to find the right materials for this fix as U can imagine :-) _Booyaka!_
Yes
Nice one. Xosar uses Electribes.
Is that a Jaspers stand? I’m always jealous of a stand like this that can hold drum machines but I can’t find anything like it in the US.
I bought my Jasper's from Thomann. Shipped to Canada was really very reasonable. Just go for it. Will change how you work being able to have everything accessible.
Thanks for being 1 more person that drove the price of these up to a level where most of us can no longer afford them. Ive been using the EMX-1 for over a decade, but now I can afford a replacement because they ALL fail eventually. I hate that theres a bunch of people paying almost $1,000 for these just to treat them like a fucking Boss DR-660, sing them at 2% of their potential. Congrats hipsters, you ruined yet another special thing for the OGs.
"YES."
I have the 4 original Electribes and am consistently disappointed nobody has really done a modern take on them. They're so easy to use, have a lot of features, you can do a lot with the sound, and they were cheap (and usually still are, at least for now). Aside from the occasional encoder or pot, they've been reliable too.
The E2 isn't necessarily bad, but it's absolutely not on the level of its own predecessors...
Still have EMX's brother - Korg ESX sampler. Played tons of gigs with that, quite hands on, but too heavy for touring unfortunately :(
If cleaning it doesent work, To replace the rotery encoder its like a $20 part and six ish solder points. Any decent electrical tech should be able to do it
Yeah, the trick is finding the right sized encoder, but once you do, dead easy fix. It’s a pain to take everything apart, but you gotta do that to clean an encoder so you might as well just get a good modern one that will likely last longer and replace it.
may have some luck using the shift+encoder to skip to the parts you want - even with the hokey encoder, GL!
Fuck yeah, nice one as usual joey, do the esx-1 aswell...coz i got both
you almost got a korgasm. LOL
i love this machine. is my most precious good.
I wish I have the EMX1. I using the ES2 for three years now in my setup. I love this machine also. The Electribes can be found in many live acts in the freetekno scene
hell yeah awesome machine
hope to get to the same nastiness
I replaced the ax7 whatever tubes with ecc something or other and they sound WAY better when driven hard. Like night and day
Do you have any examples or able to describe how the character changed? Mine has the stock EHX Russian ones and they sound great on individual parts, external input, and the whole mix! If I had a bunch of matched pairs of tubes laying around I’d experiment a bunch but curious what others have achieved with theirs.
@AkaTengu there is less breakup and distortion and what there is is more pleasant and rounded/smooth. I swapped back to the old ones to double heck, then back to the new ones.
@@EarlyMist thanks for getting back on this! So I'm guessing you can push them harder and get the tube compression but not keep it cleaner? Now you really got me interested again in trying some other tubes. Right now the raw gritty breakup is nice but I'm building some gnarly distortion circuits that may benefit from something a bit smoother and round to accompany them :)
Hard to describe. Best to experiment.
My whole unit needs a pull apart and clean like this guys. I actually laughed out loud watching the main selektor dial shennanigens 😅 because I have the exact same thing...and a dodgy power connector. And I havent tested everything else even though I've made three basic track on it.
Re the tubes ,my best guess is they are breaking up more harmonically evenly, as opposed to odd harmonics.
i f love your punky reviews!
I had the red Electribe in the early 00s, it was one of the first pieces of gear that I got. The price point was incredible for what it did, but now I regret getting the sampler version - I’ve since learned that samples are not for me. Would have had a lot more fun with the blue Electribe.
Its fun as samplers go at least for minimalist techno
@@scowlsmcjowls2626 Yeah, I'm just not into the sampler workflow.
The demo was great but listening to you fuck with that encoder was even better
You should replace that encoder or fix it. I've had my emx-1 for 15 years and have never had an issue with it
When the ADHD kicks in
Killer!!!
I got one of these, after I used the EM-1 for awhile and will never sell it!
You totally had sex with that machine!
I love my EMX-1 but it's encoder really drives me crazy too...
The Drumlogue is sort of a A/D continuation of the Electribes, but not the same amount of control. We would pay for a more capable machine!
Oh no!! This video will thrust prices even higher! :) I have used it live for many years and it's a real classic and a perfect design, as shallow and as deep as you could need. The ribbon arp has not been replicated afterwards (sadly! hey Elektron...) Replacing the original with the JJ tubes makes the sound round and warm. The drum samples sound brutal in big sound systems, and the synth is amazingly flexible. The only con is the bad reverb, but a minor detail. It's astounding that this was released in 2003. Beware of getting the SM versions (pre 2010) cos the SD versions have an electrical problem that generates glitches in the knob data, which renders the unit pretty useless in the end.
I may add, the ESX is still one of the best samplers out there too!!!!!!
3:38 +1 for that big boi
this is raw german techno unghs unghs unghs unghs jihaaa!
great machine but not for every genre, I easily made some nice stuff with it for a while, I even used the buttons to play solos, but I grew tired of not being able to get a wider, cleaner sound with it. I replaced the vaccuum tubes with vintage 1970s ones, that helped getting a milder distortion, but I still ended up selling mine. this demo sounds just like I remembered it, this muffled, distorted quality is not for me. so I wasn't wrong in changing that gear. however my current drum is digitakt, sounds better for the genres I play but it's slower to work with, too sensitive with the multiple functions for each button and keypress combinations.
STOP MAKING ME WANT TO BUY OLD KORG STUFF!!!
(Ok maybe one more unit)
Fuck, this is awesome! Seriously though, I’ve sold a few synths and am trying to keep my setup spartan, well spartan for me.
I’ve still got my trusty ESQ-1, Emax SE, and Yamaha RX5 with RX5USB, and Opsix all controlled by my MPC Live. Ive recently sold my Korg DSS-1 and Yamaha SY77, so maybe I have room for one of these lol.
I hate encoders...normally, they used to implement +/- buttons too. I have this baby but I barely dare to use it, I don't want it to lose resell value, lol, it's still works fine.
To fix the encoder, all you need to do is replace the encoder.
You already have, and will continue to get comments saying the fix is to put parchment paper in your unit....that is an incorrect fix for the wrong issue (the issue that fix 'addresses' is the knob jitter problem..an issue where all your parameters start changing, usually while using the arp strip, the correct fix for this issue is replacing the ribbon cable that does a 270 degree turn right after a connector that just barley bites through the insulation of the cable to make contact....yea no way THAT could be the issue, its totally just missing parchment paper to insulate your soggy faceplate)
💙 YEAH! Still using my EMX this year, and favorite ESX! It's a high point for playability, beat making, jamming. 📮 Wouldn't an Electribe 3 with Elektron or TR8s type modern sound quality be great? (Even just re-issue the old ones! With an official fix for the "knob drift bug" which you are experiencing. Causes - control wear out, but also the two circuit boards of the machine slightly touching. It can be DIY fixed with non-conductive "oven paper", but an official fix would be our dream.) See my channel for LOTS of Electribe, including industrial and IDM
now pump up the prices of the mc-909
Joey, when you gonna demo the Electribe 2? I would love to see you smash that lol
You should be sponsored by Nurofen ;)
I got 2 of these for liev performance, yes those f****ing encoder's, ive been left looking like a right twat infront of a room years ago becuese of those things.
I got a thin piece of felt & cut a hole in it & took the encoder nobs of & placed the felt over the pot spindle so it was against the face so i had some friction under the nob, that sounds wrong but ile leave it in for fun.
The modification stopped the jumping bullcrap but it does mean that you have to be heavy handed with it which is also not ideal becuese it will increase ware on the component.
Worse than the encoder is that the pads stop responding and the fix is involved and troublesome. Mine sits forgotten, collecting dust. A paperweight.