Great advice here. I'm a '22 owner (i got it in '23) and i'm at 10k now. I change my fob battery yearly as just a every year thing and keep a few taped under the seat just in case. I put on the SE exhaust, HD sport bags, A1 pull back risers, Denali handguard/lic plate lights and highway pegs. The exhaust might have been the best upgrade, but i had my stock seat re-molded by Mean City cycles. Totally changed the ride for me. Owner is a Pan Am dude too. My next upgrades are new street tires (my tires are near smoked) and hopefully some bright headlights. So far havent had the fuel pump thing and only had codes thrown once but they cleared. The bike is on a tender 24/7 and thats probably my biggest bit of advice to bikes pre '24. Keep that sucker on a tender all the time. Thanks for the review and ride safe.
On my second PAS a 2024 in Alpine Green. Traded my 22 because I was at 21,000 miles and 2 year threshhold on trade in value which isnt much to write home about. Only issue with the 22 was a noisy fuel pump replaced under warranty at 19,000 miles. 6k on the 2024 no issues at all. I really love this bike. It is one the most comfortable fun bikes Ive ever ridden. Great sport tourer as well. I dont do dirt on it. I have a KLR 650 for that. The upgraded battery and harness made a world of difference in start up. Great to see you with 45k on yours with very few issues. I intend on putting 100k on this one. Much touring planned for the next couple of years. I am a new subscriber to your channel . I am always looking to see Pan Am owners experiences on this great motorcycle. Cheers and many more miles offun to you on your Pan Am. I will be watching.
Very sagely advice! I traded in my 2020 road glide special for a pan am special in nov 2023 and am lovin’ every minute of it. I’ve had most of the issues that you mentioned and I have had to buy a trickle charger as the battery voltage drops enough to show up faults. These faults nearly all are because of low voltage, and charging for about an hour before leaving works. Apparently the battery isn’t man enough to hold enough voltage for 4-7 days without dropping, even though it is brand new. If you’re a daily rider it’s not a problem. I too purchased a smaller screen like yours which works really well, I also purchased a Klock Werks flare screen for the summer as I prefer to wear an open face helmet. I also purchased a saddlemen saddle to try and make the rear seat more comfortable for my wife, I also found it a little more comfortable than the stock seat (but I do have short legs/long body). Good advice well presented, keep up the good work.
thanks, man! love to hear that your enjoying your Pan Am. I did hear they changed the charging system for the 24 model and we are able to purchase this "kit" to reto fit it to the earlier year bikes.
Great vid! Just ordered the V&H exhaust for mine, it's a '23 I bought leftover end of Jan '24. Love it, looking forward to the weather breaking so I can get back out riding it! You hit all the high notes, my dealer advised me upon buying it that if you're not going to be riding it for ~2 weeks to get it on a tender, a quirk of this particular bike. Stay safe!
Good on the dealer for giving you a heads up on keeping it on the charger. I believe after they revamped the 24 charging system, I don't think its as much of an issue anymore. I think you'll be super stoked on the V&H exhaust sound.
Hi '22 Pan Am S owner here. FOB battery on the Pan Ams are smaller than most other H-D bikes. It is CR1632. It seems like the Key FOB battery drains quicker than most other H-D models with larger FOBs using the bigger CR2032. Also, keeping the FOB far away from the bike helps prevent the security system from draining the battery of both the bike and the FOB. I always keep the bike battery tendered when not riding.
Nice video! One comment on your battery talk. I hated that it had that shitty CR1632. I had one die on me within a week and they are not readily available over here in Spain. I cut off the small bracket that holds the CR1632 battery and put in the larger CR2032 battery and now my FOB works way better.
Cool hack for you and the fob battery, an Apple Airtag keychain case holds fob batteries perfectly, either the 2032's in most fobs or the smaller PA battery. Then you always have a spare.
I’m thinking of trading my RK for a PAS, the thing holding me back is the chain drive. How much attention do you pay the chain and how difficult is regular maintenance? Thanks.
@jtWrenn-qd2re I stay on top of my chain. Prolongs the life of my sprockets (I'm still on the stock ones). They recommend clean and lube every 600 miles. ( I do it more often) Not that big of a deal and easy to clean and lube. Specially if you have the center stand. Chain lasted me about 20,000 miles. I'm still on my second chain.
About the Key Fob, I purchased a 2nd Flob for 60 dollars and it cost me an extra 50 dollars to flash it or.....You can wait until scheduled maintenance and have them do it then..
Great video, hope to see more. How long can you leave your PanAm before the battery dies? Left mine off a tinder without starting it for 4 days and it was too low to start the bike when I tried it.
I've left the bike off the tinder for a couple weeks without riding it. Definitely seems to have a harder time starting after sitting that long but has always started for me. I'm still on my stock battery, which I'm amazed it's lasted this long. I've heard that a lot of people are having issues with the stock batteries not keeping a charge for very long. Sometimes getting a fresh battery solves that problem. What year is your bike? In the early years of the bike, I know there was an issue with the wiring that contributed to a parasitic drain of the battery. I believe the dealers have a service bulletin to check the wiring to make sure it is installed correctly from the factory.
@@ADVTrev Mines a 2022. I'd like to get that service bulletin checked as well as the upgraded starter clutch but im just worried it'll be a battle with the service department to get these issues addressed.
@@zacsmith8193my 21 was night and day after a software update and wiring check. They also did the starter clutch update all at the same time so it’s hard to say exactly what it was. But I can leave mine off the tender in the winter with no issues. I changed my battery last year, it was at the end of life though.
I didn't have a problem with my dealer. However, I have heard stories of some not-so-great Dealerships. Hope you can get it done. Its defiantly worth getting it done.
Just my input. 2022 Pan Special. At 28k miles I had stalling issues. Took it in at 15 days past the two year had warranty. Ended up with a bad battery, stater, cat, clutch and right hand control. Stater and hand control were covered under extended warranty. The rest was not. $1800 and 45 days later I got my bike back. Seriously! This is my third and last Harley. Each one needed at least a clutch and stater @30k. Friends who are riding other brands are not dealing with this even at 40k.
Just bought a used 21’ yesterday with 1400 miles on it. Unfortunately I didn’t see this video until today so now I I need to figure out my next move on resetting the PIN code for the bike. Any tips? Is that a dealership thing or something I can do? Great content and info man!
I had a '22 PA Special that ended up getting lemon lawed.. it couldn't stay out of the shop. When it ran it was one of the most fun bikes I've owned but just had issue after issue, left me stranded 3x in 2 months.
How many fuel pumps have you gone through so far? My first fuel pump only lasted 14K. Any plans on what to do if they keep going out with a bike out of warranty?
I'm on my 3rd. I'm getting about 20,000 miles out of mine. I just purchased another 3 year warranty for my bike, so I shouldn't need to worry about it for a little longer. From what I have heard, they are lining the fuel tanks on the newer models to help prevent this. I may look into having this done to mine.
@Diabeekei i take it off road fairly often. Tires are key to the wet riding. I went with the anekee wilds. They handle the wet really well. I know some people were concerned with the location of the battery, but it's never been a problem for me.
I recently bought a used 21 with less than 5k miles on it. I absolutely love it - buuuut I forgot my PIN... bleh. So I'm going to make sure I keep the fob and fresh batteries around!
Love to hear it! I believe the dealer can reset it for you. I'm sure they will charge ya for it though. Having extra batteries for the Fob sounds way smarter and cheaper. lol
Thinking about getting the Harley-Davidson Pan America for an international ride from India to Japan. Would you recommend it for such a long-distance adventure? Any pros, cons, or better alternatives? Your insights would be greatly appreciated!
@COOL-h6e sounds like an awesome trip. Yes, I think the bike definitely can handle the long journey. A few things to consider: dealer support in those areas, availability and accessibility of parts, (things brake on any bike). And what bikes are common to take on the trip. I'd be interested to cover some of this in a video. Could I use your comment in a video?
@derricklindstrom4351 i have taken a few trips with a passenger. Bike handled the passenger no problem. She has told me that on longer trips, the bike could use a more comfortable pillion seat, though.
@ any leaks? I know my old 2008 street glide at 43,000 miles. There was a little bit of oil seepage between the primary and the transmission but never really a leak.
@@gigi9467 I noticed on a long road trip to utah, there was a drip or two of oil from, what seemed to be coming from the shift rod seal. when i stopped for fuel. only a small drip or two. but this was after a solid stretch of riding in nevada heat non stop. never was an issue. oil level was good throughout the trip. this also was when the bike was only a few months old at the time.
Purchasing a bike like the Pan America for on/off road use that really should NEVER see even gravel roads is a waste of time & money. A Harley Davidson badge makes the proposition even MORE scary and the reason why these bikes just sit on the showroom floor gathering dust!
@@ADVTrev Recognized where you were right away. Valencia Club is an iconic NorCal location for that area.. I have a '22 Pan America GI Enthusiast if you ever want to ride. Great video, thank you.
Great advice here. I'm a '22 owner (i got it in '23) and i'm at 10k now. I change my fob battery yearly as just a every year thing and keep a few taped under the seat just in case. I put on the SE exhaust, HD sport bags, A1 pull back risers, Denali handguard/lic plate lights and highway pegs. The exhaust might have been the best upgrade, but i had my stock seat re-molded by Mean City cycles. Totally changed the ride for me. Owner is a Pan Am dude too. My next upgrades are new street tires (my tires are near smoked) and hopefully some bright headlights. So far havent had the fuel pump thing and only had codes thrown once but they cleared. The bike is on a tender 24/7 and thats probably my biggest bit of advice to bikes pre '24. Keep that sucker on a tender all the time. Thanks for the review and ride safe.
Agreed. never a bad idea to keep that battery topped off.
On my second PAS a 2024 in Alpine Green.
Traded my 22 because I was at 21,000 miles and 2 year threshhold on trade in value which isnt much to write home about.
Only issue with the 22 was a noisy fuel pump replaced under warranty at 19,000 miles.
6k on the 2024 no issues at all.
I really love this bike.
It is one the most comfortable fun bikes Ive ever ridden.
Great sport tourer as well.
I dont do dirt on it.
I have a KLR 650 for that.
The upgraded battery and harness made a world of difference in start up.
Great to see you with 45k on yours with very few issues. I intend on putting 100k on this one.
Much touring planned for the next couple of years.
I am a new subscriber to your channel .
I am always looking to see Pan Am owners experiences on this great motorcycle.
Cheers and many more miles offun to you on your Pan Am.
I will be watching.
I saw a lot of reviews about this bike and no1 mentioned the PIN start, not even the actual dealer that sold it to me. Thank you sir
Thank you, man. Yah, It seems that a lot of dealers just forget to mention the pin.
Thanks for the video!
I bought my Pan Am in 2023 and it quickly became my favorite bike!
I tell people all the time. "Its hard not to have fun on this bike."
Good post . I like your record recommendation. I love my 22 PA and not ready to change it
Very sagely advice! I traded in my 2020 road glide special for a pan am special in nov 2023 and am lovin’ every minute of it. I’ve had most of the issues that you mentioned and I have had to buy a trickle charger as the battery voltage drops enough to show up faults. These faults nearly all are because of low voltage, and charging for about an hour before leaving works. Apparently the battery isn’t man enough to hold enough voltage for 4-7 days without dropping, even though it is brand new. If you’re a daily rider it’s not a problem. I too purchased a smaller screen like yours which works really well, I also purchased a Klock Werks flare screen for the summer as I prefer to wear an open face helmet. I also purchased a saddlemen saddle to try and make the rear seat more comfortable for my wife, I also found it a little more comfortable than the stock seat (but I do have short legs/long body). Good advice well presented, keep up the good work.
thanks, man!
love to hear that your enjoying your Pan Am. I did hear they changed the charging system for the 24 model and we are able to purchase this "kit" to reto fit it to the earlier year bikes.
Great vid! Just ordered the V&H exhaust for mine, it's a '23 I bought leftover end of Jan '24. Love it, looking forward to the weather breaking so I can get back out riding it! You hit all the high notes, my dealer advised me upon buying it that if you're not going to be riding it for ~2 weeks to get it on a tender, a quirk of this particular bike. Stay safe!
Good on the dealer for giving you a heads up on keeping it on the charger.
I believe after they revamped the 24 charging system, I don't think its as much of an issue anymore.
I think you'll be super stoked on the V&H exhaust sound.
Hi '22 Pan Am S owner here. FOB battery on the Pan Ams are smaller than most other H-D bikes. It is CR1632. It seems like the Key FOB battery drains quicker than most other H-D models with larger FOBs using the bigger CR2032. Also, keeping the FOB far away from the bike helps prevent the security system from draining the battery of both the bike and the FOB. I always keep the bike battery tendered when not riding.
Nice video! One comment on your battery talk. I hated that it had that shitty CR1632. I had one die on me within a week and they are not readily available over here in Spain. I cut off the small bracket that holds the CR1632 battery and put in the larger CR2032 battery and now my FOB works way better.
I like the mod to the key fob idea. super smart
Thank you!👍🏻
Some sage advice Trev. Hope your experience encourages more people to take the plunge on the Pan America.
Live in the Bay Area, but love the landscape of the Sierra Foothills.
Can't wait to get my PA....Thanks for the info.
awesome! let me know when you pick it up and what you think of it. I think you will absolutely love it.
Great info! Thanks!
Cool hack for you and the fob battery, an Apple Airtag keychain case holds fob batteries perfectly, either the 2032's in most fobs or the smaller PA battery. Then you always have a spare.
I’m thinking of trading my RK for a PAS, the thing holding me back is the chain drive. How much attention do you pay the chain and how difficult is regular maintenance? Thanks.
@jtWrenn-qd2re I stay on top of my chain. Prolongs the life of my sprockets (I'm still on the stock ones).
They recommend clean and lube every 600 miles. ( I do it more often)
Not that big of a deal and easy to clean and lube. Specially if you have the center stand. Chain lasted me about 20,000 miles. I'm still on my second chain.
About the Key Fob, I purchased a 2nd Flob for 60 dollars and it cost me an extra 50 dollars to flash it or.....You can wait until scheduled maintenance and have them do it then..
@@georgerobinson9275 good to know. Thanks, man!
I wanna get that 2025 ST!
I like it. I'm Working on a video on it.
Thanks for this video! I’m planning on trading my streetbob for a pan America!
@@anthonyfxbb9040 sweet! I think you'll love the bike! Let me know what you think.
Great video, hope to see more.
How long can you leave your PanAm before the battery dies? Left mine off a tinder without starting it for 4 days and it was too low to start the bike when I tried it.
I've left the bike off the tinder for a couple weeks without riding it. Definitely seems to have a harder time starting after sitting that long but has always started for me. I'm still on my stock battery, which I'm amazed it's lasted this long. I've heard that a lot of people are having issues with the stock batteries not keeping a charge for very long. Sometimes getting a fresh battery solves that problem.
What year is your bike? In the early years of the bike, I know there was an issue with the wiring that contributed to a parasitic drain of the battery. I believe the dealers have a service bulletin to check the wiring to make sure it is installed correctly from the factory.
@@ADVTrev Mines a 2022. I'd like to get that service bulletin checked as well as the upgraded starter clutch but im just worried it'll be a battle with the service department to get these issues addressed.
@@zacsmith8193my 21 was night and day after a software update and wiring check. They also did the starter clutch update all at the same time so it’s hard to say exactly what it was. But I can leave mine off the tender in the winter with no issues. I changed my battery last year, it was at the end of life though.
I didn't have a problem with my dealer. However, I have heard stories of some not-so-great Dealerships. Hope you can get it done. Its defiantly worth getting it done.
@zacsmith8193 make them fix it. It's a common problem and they know it. Call HD if they give you a hard time.
Just my input. 2022 Pan Special. At 28k miles I had stalling issues. Took it in at 15 days past the two year had warranty. Ended up with a bad battery, stater, cat, clutch and right hand control. Stater and hand control were covered under extended warranty. The rest was not. $1800 and 45 days later I got my bike back. Seriously! This is my third and last Harley. Each one needed at least a clutch and stater @30k. Friends who are riding other brands are not dealing with this even at 40k.
Just bought a used 21’ yesterday with 1400 miles on it. Unfortunately I didn’t see this video until today so now I I need to figure out my next move on resetting the PIN code for the bike. Any tips? Is that a dealership thing or something I can do? Great content and info man!
@motosickle2491 the dealership you bought it from, should be able to help you out.
If you have the owners manual and active fob there is a section in the manual that tells you step by step how to change the pin number
I had a '22 PA Special that ended up getting lemon lawed.. it couldn't stay out of the shop. When it ran it was one of the most fun bikes I've owned but just had issue after issue, left me stranded 3x in 2 months.
that sucks to hear, man. I really hope the dealer was able to make it right with you.
How many fuel pumps have you gone through so far? My first fuel pump only lasted 14K. Any plans on what to do if they keep going out with a bike out of warranty?
I'm on my 3rd. I'm getting about 20,000 miles out of mine. I just purchased another 3 year warranty for my bike, so I shouldn't need to worry about it for a little longer. From what I have heard, they are lining the fuel tanks on the newer models to help prevent this. I may look into having this done to mine.
I'm not a Harley fan, but actions speak louder than words! Good bikes get ridden. Bad bikes don't.
Have you taken it off roading? And how does it deal with rain/water if so? Battery location makes me uncomfortable and anxious
@Diabeekei i take it off road fairly often. Tires are key to the wet riding. I went with the anekee wilds. They handle the wet really well.
I know some people were concerned with the location of the battery, but it's never been a problem for me.
@ gotcha! I’m currently breaking in my 23 bananamerica special, weather not been kind but she’ll get done for sure. Thanks for the tips!
@Diabeekei do you have the yellow one? Lol.
@@ADVTrev yeah! Frickin love that vomit yellow color haha!
What model barkbusters did you put on?
@@offroadqueen228 www.cyclegear.com/parts/barkbusters-aluminum-handguard-kit-for-harley-pan-america-2021-2024?Google&PLA-Local-LIA-Manufacturer-All&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAv628BhC2ARIsAIJIiK_v1UzXZ0z8i-vZhrjR3iw5eKczO1QBrbfuAhbLNV6twTxfkAc1bGMaArJhEALw_wcB&sku_id=10384869
Added the Storm gaurds
I recently bought a used 21 with less than 5k miles on it. I absolutely love it - buuuut I forgot my PIN... bleh. So I'm going to make sure I keep the fob and fresh batteries around!
Love to hear it! I believe the dealer can reset it for you. I'm sure they will charge ya for it though. Having extra batteries for the Fob sounds way smarter and cheaper. lol
Thinking about getting the Harley-Davidson Pan America for an international ride from India to Japan. Would you recommend it for such a long-distance adventure? Any pros, cons, or better alternatives? Your insights would be greatly appreciated!
@COOL-h6e sounds like an awesome trip. Yes, I think the bike definitely can handle the long journey. A few things to consider: dealer support in those areas, availability and accessibility of parts, (things brake on any bike). And what bikes are common to take on the trip.
I'd be interested to cover some of this in a video. Could I use your comment in a video?
@ADVTrev Thanks!
Yes, why not! You can use my comment for your video.
Do you ever have a passenger? And if so how does the bike handle it? Would it still be good for longer rides with a passenger as well?
@derricklindstrom4351 i have taken a few trips with a passenger. Bike handled the passenger no problem. She has told me that on longer trips, the bike could use a more comfortable pillion seat, though.
@ Great to know thank you very much!
Habe you taken it off roading? And how does it deal with rain/water if so? Battery location makes me uncomfortable
Thaks for the updates.
Mainly how
Reliable has it been??? Any leaks anything broken anything else that has gone wrong donu trust it at 40k etc.
@@gigi9467 It's been reliable to me. Couple fork seal leaks. And noisy fuel pumps replaced, all under warranty. But never left me stranded.
@ any leaks? I know my old 2008 street glide at 43,000 miles. There was a little bit of oil seepage between the primary and the transmission but never really a leak.
@@gigi9467 I noticed on a long road trip to utah, there was a drip or two of oil from, what seemed to be coming from the shift rod seal. when i stopped for fuel. only a small drip or two. but this was after a solid stretch of riding in nevada heat non stop. never was an issue. oil level was good throughout the trip. this also was when the bike was only a few months old at the time.
@ gotcha so what mileage did the bike have?
@@gigi9467 around 6 or 7,000. if i remember correct.
Purchasing a bike like the Pan America for on/off road use that really should NEVER see even gravel roads is a waste of time & money. A Harley Davidson badge makes the proposition even MORE scary and the reason why these bikes just sit on the showroom floor gathering dust!
where are you riding? It's beautiful and reminds me of Western Europe
I'm in the northern CA area. This road is by a little town called Lincoln/Auburn.
@@ADVTrev Recognized where you were right away. Valencia Club is an iconic NorCal location for that area.. I have a '22 Pan America GI Enthusiast if you ever want to ride. Great video, thank you.
@kenmartin2926 for sure, dude! I'm always up for a ride. Shoot me an email trevtravelsyt@gmail.com
If your Pan America were stolen, would you get another one or something else?
@@MrMoneyHelper I'd for sure get another Pan America.
I buy a gun and search my bike instead.
Most jerky bike ever.