Is BMW Trying to Take on Harley Davidson and make a cruiser ?

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  • @Firestorm637
    @Firestorm637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Love the look how you can see the whole engine on display like a Lambo or Ferrari. No obviously wires. Very clean

    • @jameswhite1910
      @jameswhite1910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Like a Lambo or Ferrari"... or a Harley.

    • @vincedibona4687
      @vincedibona4687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was comparing it to a car, not another motorcycle. JFC 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @edgarsdzerins
    @edgarsdzerins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    R18 is my first cruiser! I fell in love when I saw it and drove first! It is a peace of art, love riding it (and I am superbike guy).

    • @ФедорГлебов-ч2ф
      @ФедорГлебов-ч2ф 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      R18b is my first bike ever. Tried r18 and fell in love, but preferred the bagger.

  • @armandblake
    @armandblake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    The only gripe I have with BMW big capacity lineup right now is that I can’t afford any of them. Amazing looking bike

    • @waydehomemade5368
      @waydehomemade5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2021s are going at $13995 (sometimes cheaper) for the one Sean is riding and $15995 (again, sometimes cheaper)for the Classic that has a windshield, soft bags, cruise and a 16" ft wheel. BMW is offering 1st six months of payments and .9% financing. This is a no brainer.

    • @waydehomemade5368
      @waydehomemade5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      UPDATE: Just saw a few demos (untitled) listed for $12995 That, my friend, is a steal.

    • @the_13ct70
      @the_13ct70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :') true sad story

    • @Mike-jv4rz
      @Mike-jv4rz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      HD's are crazy expensive-

    • @frankdamelio1664
      @frankdamelio1664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got mine new for $11,000 with factory incentives and dealer discounts. Also used market. They don’t hold their value. Big initial drop , then levels off so you wont get hurt on resale. I like new , so don’t ask why I didn’t go w/used. 😂. Hope this helps. Good luck 👍

  • @LimitedGunnerGM
    @LimitedGunnerGM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Forward controls puts any/all road impacts directly on your sacrum. Mid controls allow your legs to absorb some impact. Train tracks hurt with forward controls, yet you can stand up with mids. I’ll take mids all day without the fatigue on my back

  • @Parker-di7ef
    @Parker-di7ef 2 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    I absolutely love this bike, but unfortunately I can’t see buying one brand new. The pilot in me just loves the big air cooled cylinders with the exposed pushrods. So similar to an old piston aircraft engine! I’m sure this engine will be bulletproof. The exposed drive shaft is great too. It’ll be in my list to buy used down the road.

    • @appalachiantony7483
      @appalachiantony7483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea don't buy one new, I bought a 2017 R9T Scrambler put 500 miles on it and sold it for $8,000. lol

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I have an appreciation for air cooled engines also. They're a special thing, especially today.

    • @sv650nyc7
      @sv650nyc7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They'll be cheap to buy used in a few years, especially in the US. I don't think they sell at all in the US. Then keep it until new internal combustion engines are forbidden, and it'll become an expensive collector's item.

    • @brentworls8509
      @brentworls8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@appalachiantony7483 My 2009 R1200GS is still worth that.

    • @appalachiantony7483
      @appalachiantony7483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@volvo09 I know, the bmw boxer and the Harley engine are basically radial air craft engine design with only 2 cylinders!!

  • @deferencetodusk
    @deferencetodusk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I have an R18 Classic. The windscreen is damn near necessary to have on it. I absolutely love the bike. For people thinking about the price, check out what deals your local is doing. I got mine for 16,500 last July when the msrp is 23,500. You're pretty much always gonna have it in Rock mode. I don't mind the goofy names, its part of the charm imo. A swapped seat is very necessary as for some reason they chose such an uncomfortable stock seat (maybe it was intentional to sell accesory seats). I changed a couple cosmetic things, apart from that I don't need to change anything. You can fire the bike up on the kickstand as others said, just has to be in neutral. Ive dragged pegs maybe twice? Three times? Its really not an issue if you ride it normally and not like you're on a track. Though I will say the Classic model is more maneuverable than the base model because it has 16 inch front and back instead of 17 inch front and 16 back on the base.

    • @dillanmistry
      @dillanmistry ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you love it and I want one too😂

    • @Mikael-jt1hk
      @Mikael-jt1hk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      16 grand is hilarious to me.. If i wanted one new in Denmark it would cost me 50 grand. An hours drive from the actual factory.. Yaaay taxes 😣

    • @kozatas
      @kozatas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mikael-jt1hk Come to Turkey, you pay 5 which costs 2 abroad. 250%

  • @tslash93
    @tslash93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I've ridden an R18 yesterday and you absolutely can start it on the kickstand. You need to press the "black power button" first. And then after the bike wakes up, you just press the red starter button (assuming you are in neutral). Also no need for clutch to be pressed to crank the engine.

    • @alexsystems2001
      @alexsystems2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I own an R18, I can start it with the kick stand down but I do have to press the clutch even when in neutral. Maybe different firmware?

    • @nicholaskemp2451
      @nicholaskemp2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's always amusing when people who do not understand motorcycles and have imaginary friends decide to produce a video about about motorcycles. It reminds me about videos of Americans showing the world how to cook food.

    • @alexsystems2001
      @alexsystems2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nicholaskemp2451 huh?

    • @tedmarakas2626
      @tedmarakas2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nicholaskemp2451 What are you trying to say? Sean knows plenty about motorcycles and there are plenty of people watching this who know plenty about motorcycles. Also, Americans know how to cook food. Plenty of it around here. So, please .....explain yourself, what are you trying to say?

    • @chiefbeef2475
      @chiefbeef2475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@nicholaskemp2451 why do people try so hard to seem better than everyone in America

  • @deandesrosiers6857
    @deandesrosiers6857 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great review. The questions about “target buyers” are spot on. At 56 years old, I just bought the R18-TC. I wanted a Harley but after every test ride, the quality and ergo’s turned me off the Harley’s. Yet, the thought of slower torqy cruises with my wife was always appealing to me. The Wing, RT and K just felt like too much machine and not enough character. After test riding them all, the TC is beautiful, amazing tech and at 6’3” I have lots of leg room. It’s fun to ride and like all bikes, that’s all that really matters. So far, it’s a win. (My wife even commented on the “quality” diff compared to Harley’s).

    • @cityofaltoonapa9148
      @cityofaltoonapa9148 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just picked up a new 2023 R18TC with the premium package myself, $20500 out the door. I was looking at Indian and Harley, but refuse to pay in the 30's for some of the same options. Love the ride and the quality of the build, cruises at 80mph with zero vibration and the Marshal speakers sound great.

  • @shanehorn8848
    @shanehorn8848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's awesome to see you doing test drives again. That is one of my favorite parts of your videos

  • @nelsonphilip4520
    @nelsonphilip4520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Sean I think you nailed it! This is a BMW heritage model designed and engineered for the Beamer faithful. I really feel that BMW is not so much as building their version of a Harley but picking up where Honda left off with the original Valkyrie. And IMHO I feel that the R-18 looks more proportional in either the Bagger or Transcontinental models. Thanks for your fantastic review.

  • @phildstine
    @phildstine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I own the 2021 First Edition and I absolutely love it. It IS a piece of art visually and from an engineering standpoint. Im the only one in my area that has one, and everywhere I go, people stop and stare in awe of it. I wish the pipes were louder from a safety standpoint. Other than that, its been fun and safe to ride.

  • @db3100
    @db3100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I own a harley but would definitely add this bike to the stable. Very unique and with the bobber seat it's a classic

  • @donwaltman4276
    @donwaltman4276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    You are quite the salesman Sean, you actually had me wanting a BMW motorcycle. I never would have thought about one. Great video, glad to see you back on a bike!

    • @donwaltman4276
      @donwaltman4276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@letscheckitout1985 I wouldn't count him out yet, successful people have made and lost several fortunes over their lifetime. But I will say that to start with nothing and build it up to a million dollar business takes an incredible amount of talent and ambition. I respect that. God bless you Sean and your beautiful family, I will keep you in my prayers.

    • @MindBodySoulOk
      @MindBodySoulOk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That pipe is HIDEOUS

    • @stevesosebee5860
      @stevesosebee5860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@donwaltman4276 s

    • @sxavier8684
      @sxavier8684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. I want to buy every bike he reviews 😂

    • @michaelsmith2733
      @michaelsmith2733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MindBodySoulOk And the rear fender and the price. Out of all the bikes I have owned I have only purchased one new.

  • @kennethcooley3445
    @kennethcooley3445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just custom built a bracket to mount a Harley Police seat on my R18 Classic.
    Perfect height and crazy all day comfort.
    I sent my stock shield off the Clearview and they now have windshields taller and wider for this bike.
    I went 2 inches taller and one inch wide on both sides with a recurve at the top.
    This bike has soul.
    1900 miles and owned since May of 2021.

  • @r18marvel53
    @r18marvel53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    At 67, most rides on Interstates for travel and work, I decided to sell the naked 1200 and move toward a bagger. Hard choice, I have never had a bagger or fairing in the 50 years of riding. Had HD’s along with all sorts of different bikes through the years. Shaft drive, engineering, low maintenance not to mention style and looks it was a no brainer choice for me. Love my new R18B, your video is spot on thanks, to all out there it’s our choice, it’s our butt in the saddle, do your homework before buying. Its all about the ride!!

    • @appalachiantony7483
      @appalachiantony7483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've tried other bikes. I like my S&S Stroker Shovel on a Paughco frame, bobbed fenders. I'm 68 but I don't do long distance any more.

  • @jimmazurek5589
    @jimmazurek5589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this video, brother. It brought back memories of the 1963 R27 I owned when in high school. Back in the day.

  • @seanpalmer2050
    @seanpalmer2050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They already made a full size modern Harley style cruiser at BMW. It was reviewed in the WSJ about 4 months ago and is on the market. It got excellent reviews.

  • @toddcooper2563
    @toddcooper2563 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started out on dirt bikes and borrowed (from friends) street bikes. Then I bought a Harley and then six yeats later traded for a Suzuki V-Strom, which I totaled. I have sworn up and down that I'm done riding, but five years later I keep watching Triumph videos and this channel. It's a disease, I'm telling ya! Most important though, is the scripture in every video! Awesome channel.

  • @erikstillman3553
    @erikstillman3553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Was so interested in picking one up when they first came out but the small fuel tank capacity completely turned me off and I can't see paying new car prices for their new touring models. They are pretty.

    • @TheHikrr
      @TheHikrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People tell about range from 230-280km, depends on how you drive.

  • @darylreed7771
    @darylreed7771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dream bike right ther! I love how that came out. That bobber seat and some low apes, looks so dope. Great bike!

  • @noahtaylor6374
    @noahtaylor6374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Massive respect for riding on the highway in 20° weather. My bikes don't see the light of day again until the 50s

    • @MLeago
      @MLeago 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      50 is the magic number for me! 😅

    • @stevel.2126
      @stevel.2126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I ride wh😎en there is still snow in Utah , thanks to Gerbing ....

    • @keithquinn5624
      @keithquinn5624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How much soy do you consume Noah? Sounds like alot

    • @noahtaylor6374
      @noahtaylor6374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@keithquinn5624 I haven't tried that much yet. Does that make the ice melt faster?

    • @stevel.2126
      @stevel.2126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cody 😎😂
      Steve L.
      9 days ago (edited)
      I ride wh😎en there is still snow in Utah , thanks to Gerbing ....👍

  • @13elad49
    @13elad49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A beautiful motorcycle. My favorite motorcycle was a R69s, it was bullet proof.
    The exposed drive shaft is cool!

  • @BikerTorque
    @BikerTorque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I absolutely love the R18 but I’m a little bit biased as I own a First Edition. The R5 is stunning and I love the fact they have styled it off that. Am I going to ride it everyday, hell no, I’ve got another R series and a Royal Enfield for that. But as a cruiser for heading off for a blast once a week or so, well, it’s it uber cool for that and makes you feel like a boss

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you bragging or just saying ???

    • @BikerTorque
      @BikerTorque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@truth-Hurts375 probably a bit of both 😂

  • @byronruhter1480
    @byronruhter1480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for that evaluation. I am thinking of getting the R18B as the big boxer looks great. And I agree it is not what you ride, but rather where you are going.

  • @carlbrown8830
    @carlbrown8830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You failed to mention the BMW's built-in feet heaters. Beautiful bike!

  • @jeremypetch7006
    @jeremypetch7006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Our ones we get in nz, you can start on the kickstand but you need to disengage the clutch. Bought one last year. Glad I did its a cool bike.

  • @n3bie
    @n3bie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Beautiful bike overall, great video as always, have to say though, that exhaust is hideous

  • @cornishreptiles
    @cornishreptiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought one of these 3 weeks ago. It’s been in the dealer for work for a week already. Here in the UK BMW parts seem to be slow, like really really slow. The scraping foot peg problem isn’t a huge issue if you set the really easy to adjust rear shock for your weight. Bike goes fast, handles way better than it should and the “small” tank gets pretty good range. The stock seat I found hard but then I find most BMW seats hard. Had the seat replaced with a Mustang Day Rider and the seats so much better. So good in fact I don’t even think about it on a long ride. For me the pegs and handlebars are in a great position and everything’s where I want it and within easy reach. For the short times I’ve had it it’s been a great bike, turns heads and gets people talking. I just hope this first few weeks isn’t a start of a lot of reliability woes.

  • @brentworls8509
    @brentworls8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the boxer engines. I really love that they went air/oil cooled instead of putting the less-beautiful water-cooled 1250 motor in it, even though it makes more hrsprs. I've always been the anti-cookie-cutter HD guy, and that's why I got a R1200GS years ago in the first place. It was the same price-point as a bagger at the time, and I had no regrets getting it. This silhouetting the old BMWs is pretty frkn nice. If I were in the market for a $20-$25k bike, this might be the one. But then I do miss my GL1800 too...

    • @LuvvSURYA
      @LuvvSURYA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No client.

  • @raduvladimirmihalache9226
    @raduvladimirmihalache9226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BMW’s have always built the best series production motorcycles in the world, no doubts about it! Noone can compete with them!

  • @daveco1270
    @daveco1270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The BMW R bikes from back in the 40s, 50's and 60's are some of the best looking motorcycles ever made. They got the paint job correct with the R18, but the lines are wrong and the bike is huge. They should make a retro bike that's closer in size to the Triumph Bobber and captures the charms of those early bikes. I'd buy one.

    • @ayedee6681
      @ayedee6681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      R9-T ?

    • @BikerTorque
      @BikerTorque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m with you there, would love to see a mid capacity air-cooled boxer. I love the R Nine Ts but how cool would a 750-850cc R18 styled bike be. I’d buy one in a second. Kind of like what Motoguzzi has done with the V9, that’s a very cool mid capacity cruiser

    • @brentworls8509
      @brentworls8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The R25 and R50 air/oil cooled boxer engines 2008-2012(3) in the GS line and still in the R nineT make more HPs and a tad less Tq, but are simple, reliable, and smaller. The extra 600+- ccs are basically only adding size and that magic 1800 badge. I can't image the difference in torque to weight of the larger motor would add to the drivability.

    • @R90scj
      @R90scj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ayedee6681 After test riding the R18 i'll keep riding my R90/6 and R90s, R75/5 and R27 and three 850 RHS Nortons.......~~=o&o>......

    • @arturasstatkus8613
      @arturasstatkus8613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are right, the cylinders and pipes look grotesque.Miss 40,50's elegance:)

  • @mikefawkes5195
    @mikefawkes5195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome to see you back ,really like your test rides ,stay warm

  • @gerrypowell2748
    @gerrypowell2748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    With a little bit of rust here and there,it should become a classic🥰

  • @melbytvenge
    @melbytvenge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The R18 BMW is HUGE engine wise. I am 5'4" and 150 lbs and I had a hell of a time getting it up what a beast.

    • @Andrew-nh5zg
      @Andrew-nh5zg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. I can get it off the stand, but I'd hate to do that on an everyday basis. Goldwing is the same cc's but much easier to ride.

    • @melbytvenge
      @melbytvenge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Andrew-nh5zg yep definately a BIG bike am sure a true cruiser.

    • @Andrew-nh5zg
      @Andrew-nh5zg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@melbytvenge That's what kills me. Was allowed to test ride a 2014 Honda Valkyrie. its a fair comparison to the R18 at it has the same cc's. The Valkryie is a lot easier to get off the stand and is flickable considering its size. My ride is a Concours14 which is a big bike as well. But that huge R18 engine is a pain to get off the stand. I don't have a desire to test ride it.

    • @melbytvenge
      @melbytvenge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Andrew-nh5zg it weights 761 lbs but I will say once I sat on it and got it balanced I could hold it up BUT once I rocked it back and forth just a little bit I could see that I could tip it over easy so not my bike because of weight. Now my Harley Switchback I can handle.

    • @melbytvenge
      @melbytvenge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Andrew-nh5zg the Valkyrie is well baldness as is the the other Goldwings because of the engine. Concorde is a great bike but yes it is big.

  • @phildiegidio4658
    @phildiegidio4658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I’m still pissed about Pontiac also. I was a Grand Prix guy…….but I’ll never turn down a Goat. I’m not a BMW guy, but it does look really on target. Love your vids. Keep at it.

    • @yogibarista2818
      @yogibarista2818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Although it was actually a good car - basically a LHD rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia.

    • @smarternu
      @smarternu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      66-67 GP On my bucket list.

  • @danielouellette5952
    @danielouellette5952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dry clutch is old technology on BMW bikes. The RTs had them from their introduction until 2014. They now have a wet clutch. Although it's very sturdy, It doesn't last forever either. I had to replace mine on my previous 2007 RT at 150,000km and it's a major job. It requires that the bike be split in two... (20hrs labor at a dealership)

  • @Thunder_Bear_mg
    @Thunder_Bear_mg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ergonomically, I think this bike would benefit from a taller seat. Just look at the 1936 model, it has a taller seat. The current seat height will probably cause discomfort in the hips for many riders, including myself a short person with a height of 5'5".

    • @amandacatherine793
      @amandacatherine793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a taller seat that you can choose as an option.

    • @liamandrewartha4803
      @liamandrewartha4803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm 6' and have had no issues over the last year with the riding position.

    • @nielsmeer
      @nielsmeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m 6’4 and it could be a little taller seat on base R18, but I have the Classic where the stock seat is 0.8” taller and that is enough. Shorter riders should have no issue as their knee to foot length would be less than mine

    • @stevefranzen8374
      @stevefranzen8374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does look as if your riding in a squat position.

    • @ripvanwinkle2002
      @ripvanwinkle2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tall folks arent having it easy on this either it seems..

  • @bryanhatch6688
    @bryanhatch6688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is truly the most magnificent machine ever manufactured. Nothing could be more beautiful.

  • @mrvoyagerm
    @mrvoyagerm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I sat on one this past winter and was blown away by how frikin wide those cylinders are. It makes my Electra Glide seem positively anorexic by comparison. An amazing bike but certainly not for me that's for sure. Being stuck in the Goldwing jockey position all day is also a non starter. I don't doubt the quality is there, it is absolutely a piece of art but those cylinders?

    • @jetstream454
      @jetstream454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah the cylinder arrangement really is only suited to upright/sport oriented bikes, but with a low end torque emphasis.

    • @MrDynafxdc
      @MrDynafxdc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good ankle warmers for winter riding.

  • @dale8163
    @dale8163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a R69s, a beautiful motorcycle, it also had a single dry clutch.

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wonder if that engine will fit into a vw bug.

    • @delgande
      @delgande 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anything can fit into a bug

  • @echevarriawilson
    @echevarriawilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I test rode this bike on Daytona. It was horribly uncomfortable because my feet and calves touched the engine. Seat was way too thin and the dry clutch may burn quicker if any friction zone drills are done over a long period of time. The way it jumps when "pre loading" throttle takes alot of getting used to. It's a big no for me but others might like it because of different preference. Definitely not made for police cone courses.

  • @jamesbarrick3403
    @jamesbarrick3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think you hit the nail on the head with the two big drawbacks 1) boxer engine will not allow cruiser posture 2) (lack of) start from parked position. This will be a sales flop IMO from those two things. The start thing they can change yesterday no problem but the boxer engine no chance. I think the used market for these will be plentiful with underpriced bikes within a few years.

    • @fatrobdouble
      @fatrobdouble 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BMW will not be able to sell a retro-styled nostalgic bike without using a boxer engine, so.... your first "drawback" is actually a necessity for this bike. I agree that it will not sell well, but that's more due to the price:benefit ratio than it is to the flat twin.

    • @deferencetodusk
      @deferencetodusk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do have highway pegs as an accesory. They bolt on to the frame and sit over the pistons. Might be too high for comfort though idk.
      You can start it with the kickstand down, I do it all the time. Just have to be in neutral.

  • @bwkern3
    @bwkern3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can fire the bike up when you have the clutch pulled in with the kickstand down I do it every single day on mine.also the reason why they used the boxers because that's their signature (they had a.boxer engine with shaft drive since 1923). just like Harley Davidson Has the 45° v-twin. Or like moto guzzis transverse vtwin.

  • @kevinanthony2724
    @kevinanthony2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I rode this version and the bagger. I’ve owned BMWs in the past and this is the most uncomfortable bike/bikes I’ve ever been on my hip angle and foot placement was terrible.

    • @lewsoltis5142
      @lewsoltis5142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree!

    • @tonysanchez6139
      @tonysanchez6139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that because you're a tall person or just the seating position? Generally curious because I'm looking for a new bike and weighing out my options. The sport bikes are fun but I'm more of a cruiser now

    • @kevinanthony2724
      @kevinanthony2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On the Bagger version your locked into one seating position I’m 5’9” and seriously I was done 10 minutes into the ride. You can’t do HWY legs or anything. I wanted to like it just couldn’t.

    • @tonysanchez6139
      @tonysanchez6139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinanthony2724 Well that's good to know. The bike looks really beautiful but the whole reason I want a different bike is because sport bikes are horribly uncomfortable after like and hour. Appreciate your input

    • @kevinanthony2724
      @kevinanthony2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tonysanchez6139 I actually have quite a few bikes I first went from race sport bikes to a FJR 1300 still have it nice smooth impressive bike, have quite a few Harleys as well from a twin cam Street glide, And A CVO street glide 131 M8 makes 145hp at the wheel have a full suspension on it and any of these three I can ride 1000 plus mile days without hesitation. Didn’t think I’d like the Harleys but they have really grown on me and the riding position on them is fantastic. Have a Dyna twin cam 143 that is just as quick in a straight line as any bike I have but it’s just a ice cream bike. I came from
      The sport bike realm as well but just got bored of it still have a few but have thinned the heard of most.

  • @Burroughspoint
    @Burroughspoint 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I absolutely love the look of the R18 and what makes it attractive for me is that it presents an alternative to the v-twin and the Goldwing engines. Also a fresh alternative to the traditional full-dress bagger Harley to help supplement the aging Kawasaki Voyager design and way more pricy Indian offerings and sporty Goldwing. Very excited where this model is going .

  • @jorgerodrigogomezflores5711
    @jorgerodrigogomezflores5711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t like the fact that the R18 isn’t water cooled, that was my biggest issue with my R1200C. I really liked that bike, if felt far more nimble than other comparable cruisers thanks to the boxer engine keeping the weight down. Can’t wait to try one of these.
    I was able to start my R1200C with the stand down as long as it was in neutral.

    • @Wuschi2001
      @Wuschi2001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The bmw is german, it won't fail

    • @brendanswift6755
      @brendanswift6755 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can vouch for that. Ride a near 30yo r1100. Boxers are bulletproof, if not just a little "german" :)

  • @MRDOOOLY
    @MRDOOOLY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a great way of reviewing bikes. Love it.

  • @fasfan
    @fasfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm sure someone has already mentioned this, but just in case... the R18 should start and run with the kickstand down if it's in neutral.

    • @waydehomemade5368
      @waydehomemade5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It will.

    • @donaldgozdowski2425
      @donaldgozdowski2425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just wrecked my 2022 Indian Chief because I took off with kick stand down. They have those safety features built in for a reason. I had Yamaha back in the day would stall if put in gear with stand down, always pissed me off, now I know why after 55 years of riding had one of those freak things happen.

  • @mldiode
    @mldiode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This bike screams sidecar! Westonian would look killer! Also, this bike has an electric motor reverse which is a must have when a sidecar is added.

  • @Fezzler61
    @Fezzler61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    No forward foot pegs would be a deal breaker for me. I need them for long rides. Other than that, very desirable ride.

    • @Beardsandbars
      @Beardsandbars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks like it would be impossible to do with that motor placement.

    • @waydegardner7373
      @waydegardner7373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Beardsandbars there’s a crash bar that will accommodate highway pegs.

    • @CB-ld8no
      @CB-ld8no 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Crash bar has footrests on top of motor. Go build R18 on BMW website. Feels great with floorboards.

    • @andysmith-ne1qs
      @andysmith-ne1qs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BMW doesn t think about HD or this bike would look very different . HD will put itself out of business soon enough .

    • @ФедорГлебов-ч2ф
      @ФедорГлебов-ч2ф 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I put my legs over the engine guards on long trips, and its great

  • @ClassicRider
    @ClassicRider 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before you were born, as a student in Morgantown West VA, ( 73-74) I tested a selection of 750's. The BMW was the smoothest. There was a Kaw, Honda, and Suz too. You talking about the R 18 reminded me of it. I also liked the fact that it was bottom heavy making it easier to pick up.
    Although admiring the bike, when you mentioned the price, I had to chuckle. The R18 top speed is 111 mph, and 0 to 60 is 4.2. for $30k+ USD
    I drive my 79 Honda 10th Anniversary limited edition 750L model that top ends at 125 MPH, except I'm too old to get a rise out of that, and 0-60 in 4.5 seconds . Irony I bought her in 79 at Devon Honda in Devon PA which is no longer there. I think her Blue book is about $6k. USD.
    One thing for sure, if crossing the PA turnpike which you should have included in your video's, your BMW is about the smoothest bike in the world. In retrospect, they don't wobble - like Harley's -

  • @waydehomemade5368
    @waydehomemade5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a huge SRK fan so let me add this. As Spring rolls around, more folks are getting wind of these bikes. Most 2021 FEs are gone. I picked up the Classic (think Road King with soft bags) for several thousands off MSRP plus BMW incentives. Coming from a Road Glide, yeah it was different. Now that I've logged several hundred miles on it, those differences are not as big of an issue. It's smooth, comfortable and is just beautiful. The smallish tank is okay, the shifting is exponentially smoother than my Road Glide and it carries the weight so low, maneuvering is pretty easy. Can you scrape the pegs/boards? I guess if ride aggressively, yes. But this is a torque monster cruiser. This thing chugs down the interstate at 75 like it's on a Sunday stroll. I'm 6'4" 220lbs and have no issue with comfort other than a very stiff seat. Easily upgraded. If you simply have to have forward controls, a mustache style crash bar with highway pegs is an option.

  • @georgec2126
    @georgec2126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love flat twins. This is beautiful!
    My 89 Dnepr had exposed pushrods too.
    I wonder if a sprung saddle would suit this. Perhaps also a simple screen. But otherwise it's perfect.

  • @sushi_edits225
    @sushi_edits225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man this bike will do a sub 4 second 0-100 if the conditions were perfect! I’m in love 😍, but I also like to add that the CVOs have 1923cc and produce 106 hp and 93-97 whp depending on the conditions, so in that case, the Harley has a good increase in power

    • @jeremiah1st
      @jeremiah1st 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it will never be a v-max😂🤣

    • @sushi_edits225
      @sushi_edits225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeremiah1st man V max is on another level, 200 horses is not a God damn joke! And it’s top speed is 292kmph! Which no cruiser can ever dream of.

    • @jimbobaggans1564
      @jimbobaggans1564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I had a V-Max too. I gave it to my son since he liked it even more than me. He was intimidated by it at first but he got used to it. I still have my Fat Boy but Mr. Max calls my name every once in awhile.

    • @sushi_edits225
      @sushi_edits225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimbobaggans1564 man your son is a lucky guy

  • @mswiatowiak
    @mswiatowiak ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can start the bike on the kickstand, but it has to be in neutral

  • @25Soupy
    @25Soupy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beautiful bike except for the GIANT exhaust. My neighbour had an R5 that was his daily rider in the summertime and every morning I use to hear him start it up and I'd watch him drive away just because it looked and sounded so good.

  • @InsidertecPrapo
    @InsidertecPrapo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautiful moment when you accelerate at full throttle in low or high gears (it doesn't matter, but it's worse at low speeds because there is no rotational inertia of the wheels to compensate) with the crankshaft turning in the longitudinal axis of the bike... flip the floor (or lifts you from it)... which changes the cycling in curves without a doubt!

  • @bluemagoo3116
    @bluemagoo3116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's marketed to people like me, older generation. It reminds me of the old Guzzi Eldorado I had. Except with engineering and it's nice. I also had a 4 cyl K-bike. That engine wouldn't work in this, way to much engine.

  • @cartrack730
    @cartrack730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People don’t understand that HD is a more than a motorcycle, it is the brand, people want to be part of it. I was the same way, but broke away and bought a new Indian Challenger and I could not be happier. Once more people can break away from Harley, they will discover how many better bikes are out there and you will get more for your dollar than a badge.

  • @CarcassGrater
    @CarcassGrater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another student at my MMI campus has a brand new R18, it looks about 8 feet long and it's one of the ugliest things I've ever seen, it's absolutely butt ugly in person.
    Which means eventually I will need one!

  • @NovemberRomeo107
    @NovemberRomeo107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sound gets me goosebumps every time those engines rev up.

  • @Trehugindrtlvr1
    @Trehugindrtlvr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Germans rarely make something that's pretty, IMO. But that bike is absolute art.

  • @LA-ff6zk
    @LA-ff6zk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am not a religious person, but i do enjoy your videos. Keep up the good reporting and i am in Pa so i like local vloggers.

  • @tobylangdale95
    @tobylangdale95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this bike, but At a couple minutes in I can’t help but notice that exposed rotating final drive shaft…. As a safety issue of possible entanglement and dismemberment in a millisecond… not good, put a safety cover/tube over it.

    • @michaelbayliss1794
      @michaelbayliss1794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It looks nice tho. Better not have any loose articles of clothing.

    • @christophervan6966
      @christophervan6966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't be serious

  • @peterchivers6312
    @peterchivers6312 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed that review- thanks.

  • @GeorgeWashingtonjr-p7r
    @GeorgeWashingtonjr-p7r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm going to have start commenting on every video, where's the 200HP harley content? Don't make me drive to Amish country and protest outside your shop. Give the people (me) what they want!

    • @codysmith7456
      @codysmith7456 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol 200 hp harley doesn't exist 😂😂 it blows up once it tries to hit 115

    • @nickhenson500
      @nickhenson500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've literally been thinking the same thing. He built the damn thing and has made almost no videos with it which is what I think everyone really wants.

  • @kevinnielsen1356
    @kevinnielsen1356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BMW has been making that style since 1923. I want one

  • @esmordt
    @esmordt ปีที่แล้ว +4

    well, I don't think BMW wants to do "Harleys" ...they can make motorcycles, I don't think they want to start doing washing machines on wheels... 😉

  • @bobmetzger51
    @bobmetzger51 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many many bikes have side stand safety switches not only BMW. You made it sound unique to the brand.

  • @craigmax3779
    @craigmax3779 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your show very much. Honesty and no BS. Looking to get a ZG14. You bought a hi milage. 2k or less. I'm also pretty tall. About 6'4 so you can understand what I'm talking about. If you can find me good one with lower mileage. Thanks for your time. Been also interested 8n the retro z900 is a lot lighter.

  • @zp7126
    @zp7126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It really is a beautiful bike. It will be cool to see what bolt on cool stuff you guys do!!! I am really excited to see what Paul cox does too

  • @LesterSuarezGonzalez-dz9ns
    @LesterSuarezGonzalez-dz9ns 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely Amazing Machine!!!, Really impressive and majestic German powerful Beast!!!, No doubt one of my favorite Motorcycles!!!, Truly love The Amazing BMW R18!!!, Good explanation and video as well, Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @arc001
    @arc001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see the promo vid shot in my country, South Africa. Clarens drive coastal road, twisties heaven.

  • @Glauco1933
    @Glauco1933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid. I don’t agree with the notion having to replace the dry single plate clutch. They are proven all the way back. Even the K’s from the early 80’s with 100hp. If you burn one, then you need to tidy up your style. Thanks for another great review.

  • @AlpineRiders
    @AlpineRiders 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It´s a good Review about that motorcycle! I would love it if you do one more with the different variants on the market now. As an owner of an r18 i have to say i love that bike.

  • @loveisall5520
    @loveisall5520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first BMW I ever rode was as a child in the mid sixties, riding on an R69S with an older cousin. I thought that was the sexiest motorcycle I'd ever seen at that time. I owned an R60/7 in the seventies in Houston in college. I needed a bike with the reliability of my car, and this was when Harley in particular was just junk. That great little motorcycle was like a car on two wheels with that shaft drive and was perfect for riding to school and to work. How I wish I'd kept that! I had a CB 750 at the same time but it was the little BMW that got the most riding. I learned from riding in that decade that displacement above around 600-700cc was just like excessive power in cars: really not needed for a great riding experience, anywhere. I crossed the country more than once back then on that R60/7, deserts and mountains alike. Sure miss it.

  • @jaybou007
    @jaybou007 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll say one thing about your awesome videos, specifically about the words of wisdom. As a non-religious person, I usually get bugged by that. But you do it with passion, with a true sense of what you’re actually reading from this gospel. That, if it makes you feel better without shoving it down my throat, I can easily respect. Well done.

  • @CVO_MAN
    @CVO_MAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I just purchased an R18 Transcontinental and it's a great bike.

  • @vincedibona4687
    @vincedibona4687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 4Runner has a 4-cylinder engine with 127HP and weighs 3800 pounds. That bike is awesome comparatively.

    • @Ilovesharks17
      @Ilovesharks17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4 runners are badass tho

  • @jessiefayne4083
    @jessiefayne4083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 89 Virgo 1100 same thing it wouldn't start unless kickstands up it was also a shaft drive I think that's part of the reason why they do it

  • @dcarts5616
    @dcarts5616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is beautiful actually and I love the sound of that boxer! And 4 second 0-60 on cold tires and not fully full throttle? I want one…

  • @mxbadboy263
    @mxbadboy263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first time one in person the size of the cylinders blew me away. They are huge!

  • @thomaslarson438
    @thomaslarson438 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a Harley Guy but I Dig the vintage look of this bike!!

  • @timtwining5943
    @timtwining5943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got an 1982 R80RT. The dogs between 1, 2 and 3 are pretty tough to get the hang of, but everything else is still awesome. It hauls ass. The cans do get ridiculously hot on a Summer day though. And not being able to do the HD kick is kind of stiffening. The knees get it after a long haul. But for an almost 40 year old bike it still runs and drives like a champ. I love BMW. Best bike in the world!!!!! If I had $25k I would get a new one. But, no dice. A 40 year old bike will have to do. . .

  • @faveadams85
    @faveadams85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:33 sometimes it feels that way when the "bike gets you" 😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @johnssmith4005
    @johnssmith4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:07 that's actually a pretty good safety feature , I saw a video of a little kid who pulled the throttle on a bike which caused the bike to drag him into the traffic right under an incoming truck , he didn't survived of course , that safety feature is more for people who don't ride and don't actually know how bikes really run

  • @drewdavis4614
    @drewdavis4614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 2018, Some Harley Factory people bailed and went to BMW, secretly started to develop the Bike your talking about. I worked for a BMW dealer who told us it was hush hush, but they would unveil it and it would be a worthy opponent to HD's. Well made and will last a long time.

  • @heritageheathens8386
    @heritageheathens8386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite new bike of the 2020s! I have yet to see one at the dealer yet

  • @spacebear49
    @spacebear49 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't help but wonder about the limited legroom for taller riders... it looks cool, and no doubts about the quality. But seems like it would feel cramped on long rides. I need to try one. Usually like to stretch out.

  • @duncansteedman9986
    @duncansteedman9986 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seen several reviews of the R18 - all good - but yours is very good 👍

  • @mynamejeff2006
    @mynamejeff2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How long is your shop gonna be closed?

  • @dresdamanx
    @dresdamanx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all of the non owners critiques…. I’ve had mine for months and it rules…. Riding position is fine…get your ob-gyn stirrups on your other cruisers. Parts are a snap from Bob’s BMW. Splitting lanes and lean angles are as possible as your skill allows. Torque is supreme and a stability assist that is wonderful, you feel in control and safe. Ride before you speak…🙄. I got mine for under $15K. Deals are everywhere! Ohhh yea, BIKE STARTS ON KICKSTAND!!!!!

    • @michaelbayliss1794
      @michaelbayliss1794 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you get a lot of engine heat from the Boxer ? I had a R 1200 RT , and I really didn't get much heat from cylinders . The plastic fairing covered most of it tho .
      Thanks

    • @dresdamanx
      @dresdamanx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelbayliss1794 No undue heat, my ‘17 Bonneville ran hotter before de-snorkeling.

  • @williamallen8531
    @williamallen8531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review, thanks! Concerned with peg placement and price (getting into Goldwing range) but still worth a trip to the dealer.

    • @williamallen8531
      @williamallen8531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And followed up my comment by reading opinions of others. Great information, love seeing comments from true riders instead of Harley fanboys who can’t bare the thought of a different manufacturer producing a good product

  • @edward2a
    @edward2a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The kick stand protection is common for many years in BMW, but also available on Japanese bikes.

  • @DizzConnected
    @DizzConnected 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review 👍
    I'm 6'5" and can ride in comfort. (R18 Deluxe 1st Edition, Floor Boards, heel up-shift, standard Cruise control)
    Starting on kick stand is no problem, just need neutral and clutch in.
    Note that I believe that Cruise Control upgrade option you're referring to for that bike, will be standard CC only, not adaptive.
    Regarding the Ride Modes, I don't get all the jibes and confusion over the mode names....... in nearly all reviews.
    It's pretty simple really, with a bit of tongue-in-cheek attitude included in the name for ROCK mode. 😁
    It'll be interesting to follow the future of the R18.
    It was always going to be a hard slog for BMW to convert main-stream v-twin riders, particularly in the US market.
    I think most adverse reactions seem to be more of a knee-jerk reaction to the alien feeling of the R18, which is somewhat understandable with most of the US Cruiser market being long term riders of forward-control, transverse crankshaft motorcycles.
    But for many to dismiss an iconic engine design so quickly just seems quite closed-minded.
    Yes, some of the boxer quirks are probably going to feel uncomfortable (different) initially.
    However, those quirks pale to insignificance against the sweet overall ride experience that is the BMW R18.
    And then when you get off, it's always there to look at 😍😍

  • @d4summer715
    @d4summer715 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful bike. I rode a BMW RT 1200 to Guatemala 1n 2006 (9,500 miles R.T.) it preformed flawlessly. I appreciate your scripture verses!

  • @Elvis68spec
    @Elvis68spec 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool Bike! Great video!

  • @berberabdul3598
    @berberabdul3598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:15 the kick stand thing is a regulation in Germany and maybe whole Europe. Its for safety reasons...

  • @losxlakers
    @losxlakers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It says on your website you’re temporarily closed, and there isn’t any inventory on your website. What’s going on?