Lipedema, Dairy & Oxalate Dumping with Katrina Harris and Kelly Hogan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Kelly Hogan and Katrina Harris discuss dairy, lipedema, and oxalate dumping. Katrina has lost TWO-HUNDRED pounds on a Keto/Carnivore diet, even though she suffers from Lipedema (which makes fat-loss nearly impossible).
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For more information about Abstainers versus Moderators, Google Gretchen Rubin or visit www.gretchenrubin.com
Katrina has a FB group called: Ketogenic Nutrition for Lymphedema, Lipedema, and Lipo-Lymphedema
She also coaches at www.ketovangelistcoaching.com
Instagram: @keto.katrina
And she's a travel agent that helps book people for Keto and Carnivore vacations. She's on Instagram @Traveling.With.Kat and on FB @Keystothemagictravel
For lots of free information about Lipedema, visit www.lipedema.org
For more information about Kelly Hogan and a Carnivore Diet (including scans of her bloodwork), please visit www.myzerocarbl...
Carnivore diet has decreased my lipedema from stage 2/3 to 1 in a month of Ribeyes and water and salt.
I took away dairy...day 2 = no sneezing or runny nose in the morning...Immediately I started losing weight again. -2.8 in two days. so far so good. AND, Im not hungry. I usually wake up starving. Today I woke up alert. The clear head and no drippy nose, is fantastic.
nice! you are doing keto or carnivore?
Thank you for sharing. This is really helpful, and gives me hope. I have been RAVENOUS on carnivore, and struggle to go even 12 hours (8 pm to 8 am) without food. And I'm not losing weight. I'm going to try cutting the dairy.
Omg....I didn't even realize those lumps under my skin had a name...lipedema! I had tons under my skin on arms, legs, abdomen. But since starting lchf and the carnivore, losing 72 lbs , reversing T2D....all of those lumps magically disappeared! Did not know it was lipedema. Great, great interview ❤️👍
I feel like I have found my people😊. Keto helped but carnivore is the cure for me.
Zina Reid Same.
This conversation is exactly what I’m experiencing. So good to hear.
My new camp of weirdos...💕
@@holliyargo ...and here we all ARE =) How lovely is this?!
Amen to that!! 👍👍
With regards to the phlegm and dairy, the body makes mucus in order to trap what it perceives as foreign antigens; that is why mucus or phlegm increases in some people with dairy. I get the same!
Interesting!
Very helpful comment! Thanks. Explains a lot about little kids too.
What do you think about Sally Norton’s idea that we need dairy to help get oxalates out?
I get cystic acne due to dairy.
Really like Kelly's energy and personality. Her typed commentary is spot on and often amusing.
Claire Sutton - Thank you! I am so grateful for the feedback! ❤️
@@myzerocarblife you are the best. we love you
Totally appreciate the running commentary at the bottom of the screen! Love it!
Oh My Gosh! I have wondered for YEARS why I gave up alcohol so easily (19+ years ago) but have not been able to do that with various foods. This explains it. I do not have a 'moderator' bone in my body! This was extremely helpful!!!!!
Holy Moses! I did not realize my fat is probably lipodema yet hearing this (and seeing photos that look like my lower half) so much makes sense. I have averaged losing just 2 lbs a month this entire year despite doing keto. I am now on the final day of my first 4 weeks carnivore. For the first time in my life I am in charge of my food rather than it being in charge of me. Thank you for your channel Kelly. You are a Carnivore Angel!
OMG THANK YOU for the shoutout! This makes me so happy ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Carnivore Yogi - I love you, girl!! ❤️
myzerocarblife back at you! 🥰🥰🥰😘😘😘😘
It's always the freaken dairy! As much as I love HWC and cheese, after experimenting with cutting it out I realised it's partly responsible for my long-term stall on Keto and now Carnivore. Damn your creamy deliciousness!
Me too 😭😭😭😭
What is hwc?
Heavy whipping cream
@@myzerocarblife thank you
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Great! So many have lymphedema (it can happen due to lipedema, trauma to lymph system, born with it, transpire due to obesity etc) - often missed by health professionals and NEEDS treatment.
Love when I'm watching a video about eating Carb-Free, and the preceding commercial is about eating your Fruits and Vegetables....
I love how you called moderators creatures lol! I was that kid that not only finished my Halloween candy, but ate my moderator sister’s candy too so I feel you! You crack me up and learning so much from you and your channel. ❤️
Oh YAY!! Two of my favorite ladies ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Funny but true a couple days ago I was cleaning out underneath my bed and found a box with the womens day with your picture on the front, that I bought and never read, something caught my attention this time so I read it and then found your blog and then this TH-cam channel, It’s literally like a light bulb went off over my head, I’ve been on keto for 6 weeks and immediately lost 8 lbs the first 4 weeks but have stayed the same for the last couple weeks and still craving the sweets, I had a meltdown and ate half a box of vanilla wafers a few days ago. I was eating an apple every day and a couple squares of dark chocolate and almonds every day and raw vegetables for lunch every day but craving more almonds and dark chocolate so today I have only had meat eggs and cheese like you say and haven’t craved any nuts or dark chocolate , carnivore may be the answer for me, thank you, Oh and what the heck did they do to your face on that magazine cover LOL 🤪
I've had same experience. Gave up HWC in my coffee and it made fasting so much easier!
Never stop bringing the good news of how to fix food addictions!!! God bless the work you do Kelly💗
My husband is so confused because the whole time the kids were growing up and until recently, I forced him to eat at least some vegetables to be a good example and because veggies are "healthy." Now I just make meat for dinner and he's asking me to make him a salad on the side. Weird.
This really sounds funny.😁
Our poor menfolk lol
Just put up with us, dears
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Cheeeeeeeeese!!! Aggghhhhh!!! If there is cheese in the house I must eat it. I must eat all of it, right now. It doesn't matter whether there are 4 oz of it in the fridge or 4 pounds, its true home is in my stomach and I must put it there. So when I decided to try a carnivore diet (started on Feb 1st) I kept the Kerrygold butter, and the whipping cream for my coffee, but made cheese a non-option. And it seems that if I don't have it in the house, I don't miss it! So I totally understand about Kelly's "peanut butter ghost", LOL! For me, it's a cheese ghost.
I have been fat my whole life, and never did well on Weight Watchers because there was too much choice. Letting me choose from among a variety of options is just courting disaster. I am definitely an abstainer when it comes to dieting.
A lot of lipedema sufferers have diagnosed Lipedema of the arms, abdomen & bottom, too.
OMG-- there were tears running down my face at the "dairy jokes". My husband can relate! You ladies are seriously awesome together. My last 5 years in nursing I had patients with lymphedema--and I cannot tell you how I WISH I had known how to help them back then. Believe me--mainstream medicine did NOT help them one bit! Keep the good stuff coming Kelly! One more thing--I would love to listen to the podcast you referred to where she discussed her oxalate issues. Sadly I am in the same boat and will not be fully carnivore for awhile due to dumping. So if you could reference that as a link--that would be awesome!
Sally K Norton is an excellent reference for all things oxalate. She has a website, instagram, and blog.
@@SandraDelesalle Yes, I consulted with her and am following her protocol. Just interested in other's and their approachs also.
Oh the oxalate dumping is so not fun. And yes - Sally Norton is an excellent source for more details and how to gradually go carnivore so that you aren't miserable if dumping is really bad for you.
I’m quite new at carnivore with 50 lbs to lose and my progress seems to have halted for a few weeks. I’m absolutely going to nix the dairy now and see. Hopefully, the black organic coffee is ok. I LOVE these interviews. You are such an inspiration and bring soooo much helpful content (and I like be the captions below-you’re funny too!) 😊👍
M D Your body might be healing. Don’t use the scale, just take measurements.
Aren't Kelly's captions awesome! I love them too :-)
Kelly and Katrina, you are two wonderfully positive persons. There are not many like you out there.
Thank you!!!
I'm not even half way through the video and I feel like Katrina is describing me! From HWC triggering me to eat more (especially sweet stuff) to not being able to moderate, it's all me too. The only dairy I currently eat is butter and occasionally hard cheese, but I'm going to cut out the cheese for sure.
That heavy cream is my nemesis!! I'm cheering for you :-)
“It’s probably the dairy ”! Love the distinction made between people that can be “moderators “ where food is concerned and those who have to be “abstainers”. Some cravings may be textural as well, such as chewy mixed nuts. But it’s mostly the sugar. Thanks for discussion around dairy. I think most people need to reduce or eliminate dairy.
Thank you! Loved the “it’s the dairy” rational.
My wife and I are in our late 60s and me in my mid 70s are new to carnivore and can't wait to experience the effects of this Diet. But we found this video very informative and interesting to watch. Many of them are not, but thank you for this one, and plus it's not too long, 30 minutes is perfect. Please keep up your work cause there are so many out there in this old world in need of this information. Thanks again this is StevenJames and Glenda Ellison
Jesus Is King.
Finish oreos in a few days? I remember finishing the bag in one evening.
I haven’t tasted such a product since 2005 and don’t miss them at all.
I love your energy, Kelly. Thank you for all of these great interviews!
Thank you ladies ! 🧀🧀👻👻. My tv is on the fritz , MIGHT BE THE DAIRY !!😂😂😂
Cheryl Stuteville -🤣😂🤣
Great video. Sour cream and heavy whipping cream do not have lactose. That's why they have 0 or
It’s a privilege to get results from diet and exercise, including carnivore. Something denied to too many of us.
Kelly, this is the video that is convincing me to give up dairy, thank you!!
Wonderful, inspiring interview ladies .Thank you!
I can't believe it. Y'all just helped me big time because I've been wondering why every time I eat summer sausage and cheese my nose get stopped up and runny, and I'm more hungry through the day but when I don't have it everything is fine even smoother bowel movements.
This was so helpful! I am definitely an abstainer, so you have convinced me to try 30 days without dairy.
LOVE LOVE LOVE! Recognition of Keto/Carnivore progress, improved quality of life, is more important than the size of our pants. Healing happens before fat loss....
PS: I am an “any sweet food” abstainer. I am a dairy moderator. -Denise
YES - healing and mobility and feeling good are so much more important than what the scale says.
Love this! Keto definitely worked for me too but my body recently stalled after 20 mths. I've even tried eating just one meal a day. So excited as today is Carnivore Day 1
Keto/carnivore has improved my lipodema. I’m at a healthy weight but have those shelf knees and ankles and under the butt. It is better ! Stopping cheese recently was a game changer. I lost 3lbs in one week from stopping cheese. What!? That was the only change! So I’m gonna keep going. I wanted to see the change from just stopping cheese with still having cream before I do a trial of no dairy. Feb is no cheese, March is no cream... i hope! I will at least do it a week! Like Kelly said, HWC is my Boo! Haha. Funny, not funny Kelly!
I will try and come back and update this post of dairy experiences.
Ok everyone, lets keep going! Peace and love. 💕
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How is it going? Are you dairy free? I need to do this, too.
TERESA PARKER
Stopping cheese and decreasing dairy has helped so much! I am not dairy free however I bet I have 15% of what I used to have. I have not returned to eating cheese at all. I have probably 2 Tbs cream each day for coffee and the occasional 2-3 Tbs sour cream. 1 Tbs butter on my weekly ribeye. That’s it. More beef patties & more gelatin has helped me stay cheese free. Pls try zero cheese for 2 weeks and very little cream and let me know if you can tell a difference. I also think peanut butter cause me to puff. 🤷♀️ I’ve tested it. I know I shouldn’t be eating that 😩 weak! Working on it.
@@CalmVibesVee I am going to do it! When the last of my hwc is gone, it will be gone by Friday, I'm going to give dairy up for a month. I am hopeful to have good results!
What a great interview! I absolutely love your channel and appreciate you work!
Both wheat and dairy contain opioid peptides that influence endorphin receptors in the brain. These peptides are addictive and can contribute to asthma, obesity, apathy, numbness etc. So, this could be another reason, besides bloating, gas, lactose intolerance, etc, why dairy is problematic for some people. Everyone is different and unique. I also learned recently that there's a difference between the A1 milk that's consumed mostly here in America and A2 milk. I can't explain all the science stuff--literally just heard about it on a podcast the other night-- but basically, it's the A1 milk that's more addictive with respect to these opioid peptides and A2 isn't as bad. Anyway, food for thought! Great discussion!!
@Sue C. Escobar, wow this is very eye-opening and sheds so much light on why I am having such a hard time letting go of my morning coffee with whole milk. Ugh. :(
Ive had hay fever since child, and now that i drink and eat lots of raw dairy, i have no issues.
It influences endorphines because its delicious! So does having a ribeye or sex.
We crave the good stuff.
@@alba7165 Don't feel badly. At least you're drinking a whole food. I'm still doing my fake creamer, but... I don't judge myself. I do what I can and if I feel I need to let it go, I will. My digestive problems are gone, so... I'm good. I just found that information on opioid peptides and addiction to be really eye opening and hey, maybe it's why I'm still using creamer ... It's got casein in it, at least a tiny bit; no lactose though, to which I am practically allergic (extremely intolerant). Anyway, best wishes to you on your journey!
Hi I'm a 70 year old woman. I have been carnivore for 6 months. I'm feeling fantastic. I'm definately not a moderator. Yesterday I went to a family get together. I completely binged. I was so sick through the night. Terrible abdominal cramps, and vomiting. This morning I had a problem with a runny tummy. It is hours later now and I'm still up and down to the toilet. I do believe that I'm a binge eater. What can I do to save myself from repeating this behavior.
Just simply don't go there ever again.
I have been greatly helped by 12 step programs. Feel free to contact me.
Right! Sugar is addictive, and dairy has beta-casomorphine to which some people are extremely sensitive; aged hard cheese has much less. I had an aunt who seated looked normal, but when she stood it was a shock to people how big she was from waist to knees. Congratulations to you both. I want the cheese t-shirt!
I've been starting slow & easing into it but in just a week... WOW I can feel a difference already! I had a single small flour Tortilla taco last night and I am miserable hours later... heartburn, bloating, and so uncomfortable!
I am so ready to go full force.
It's been hard cooking separate meals for my family but I'll figure it out in time I'm sure!
Casein and whey are two proteins in dairy. Those who are lactose intolerant mostly suffer from gastrointestinal issues and do fine with lactose-free dairy products. Many are intolerant to both proteins and will get skin breakouts, eczema, gastrointestinal issues, swelling, etc. I read a study where casein was found to be as addictive as cocaine. Those who are allergic to the trifecta (myself included) of dairy, wheat & soy is because body cannot differentiate between all three on a cellular level.
If it's the casein (protein = A1 vs A2 dairy), A2 milk is available now from a company. The A1 casein/protein is what makes many people crave dairy as well as have negative reactions.
Me too! Heavy cream in my coffee. Boohoo. Aww. I stopped cream 2 days ago and I have been hungry ever since. I sure hate to hear this, but, I knew it. I have drank my coffee black for 2 days and thinking, after 55/years of giving up coffee. Keto for one year and ketovore 8 months. Eating only meat is so simple and filling. ( allergic to eggs and substitute it with firm tofu). Thank you so much for validating
It’s wonderful not having cravings!
Oh yes, if they're gone, they won't tempt me anymore. I can really relate to that. That's exactly how I think if there is peanut butter or chocolate etc in my house.
Kelly you are awesome lady so happy and perky.🌹
This interview gave me some great takeaways!
Abstainer vs Moderator is a major gold nugget!
I suck at moderation too. Glad to hear somebody else give it a name.
I cannot moderate cream thanks a great video!!
I know I’ve switched to all raw dairy and it’s made a difference
This whole process is a journey. If you had told me a year ago I would not be eating carbs, I would not have believed you. I started gradually and now eat meat mostly, some veg now and again. cream in my coffee. Now thinking about dumping the cream....there is so much more room in our refrigerator because we don't buy or drink milk anymore. Eating this way simplifies your life.
I was dx with LIPEDEMA on February 14th. Feel pretty deflated still. Thanks for the hope.
My husbands spider veins in his legs have all but disappeared after 3 months of carnivore. Crazy amazing!
I love your work Kelly!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I am not a cheese eater either. I am a baby carnivore (3 days) … trying to get rid of insomnia!!! 1:00 am currently. I am going to make some meat broth tomorrow. I don’t have the desire for bacon or ribeyes like Kelly does. Maybe it will come someday.
Oh 😯 Thank you 🤗 I saw that the two patches of spider veins that I have seems to fade away and I thought I am seeing what's not there. Hurray to carnivore! ✌️😃👍🍖🍗🥓🥚
Me too - you should have seen me going through my phone for photos to make sure I wasn't crazy!
Wow, really ?!?!?👍👍👏👏👏👏
Holy shit - when I read your comment I looked down at the varicose vein I’ve had on my left thigh since TWELVE, and... it’s almost invisible! What!! How is that possible!
Zero carb 11.5 months, almost a year!
I have got to make me and my husband matching shirts saying I would give up cheese for you! LOL. That's hilarious!
Thank you so much for sharing this!!!
Been doing carnivore for 10 months and my spider veins are much less visible
Isn't it amazing?! I had no idea that it was even a possibility.
What a blessing! I can’t wait until mine begin to fade. I have a big spider vein behind each knee. 🕷
I just don't understand the issue with heavy whipping cream. All the days and weeks of carnivore OMAD for me were possible because I had heavy cream once or twice with my coffee. No heavy cream, I ended up eating 2 or times a day, i.e. more food. Very strange. However. I'll give it up to see if helps with weight loss.
It might not impact you the way it did me. And I didn't even realize it was driving my hunger until I stopped it. It seems so counter intuitive, yet that is the way it was!!
@@katrinaharris1362 well, I have stopped using it. We'll see how it'll work out for me 👍
Great interview ladies!
Ok, I’ll try tomorrow to have black coffee. I’m scared but I’m gonna try it!
You might try a tiny pinch of salt in your coffee - it helps to cut the bitterness.
Can leave or take cheese also!! AND hate blue cheese! AND love heavy cream in my coffee 👍🏼
#Twins lol
Same / same!
You guys are awesome! Congratulations on losing 200 pounds Katrina!
I really needed to hear this thanks so much!
Crap! Ive been having breakouts around my jaw line and....been having more dairy🤣🤣😂🤣 and the congestion !its outta here😜
Eating everything was tidying up!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
This is SO helpful for me!
I didn’t realise but I’ve been oxalate dumping!
On those days I’m not even hungry it just wipes me out!
Electrolytes, vitamin c as Ascorbic Acid and water!!!
My skin has improved since cutting all dairy
I'm definitely NOT A MODERATOR. I'm trying zero carb now. I've been Keto 2 years this July 2021 but using Skinny syrups and other sweetners I think are keeping me craving sweets.😒
I love dairy however my body does not tolerate it. I can eat butter and ranch dressing fine but that's it. I used to eat a whole tub of sour cream with stevia and vanilla. I miss cheese but the aftermath is not worth it.
Lipedema can also be in the arms. My first location was my upper arms.
UGH! Everyone I have listened to lost most of their weight doing keto before going carnivore. While I feel better eating carnivore, I also want to loose the 70-100 pounds of fat I ya e on me. I am so so torn!
Patricia Long there’s a girl on my channel who lost all of her weight (100 pounds) on Carnivore! th-cam.com/video/3m0U3cHK9Tk/w-d-xo.html
Do whichever works for you!!
Patricia Long
Are you eating dairy? 😜
Anna McWilliams no, rarely even use butter. I have lost a little bit of weight and inches. I’m not giving up yet.
Carnivore Yogi Thank you, I will check it out now. I so dislike what the mind can do to someone.
I was never a moderator even while keto, that is what my downfall was. Yes, I was the same with Katrina. My husband and I went out to dinner tonight and he mentioned that he misses having the sweet snacks. I'll make him some but I know that I can make something and not eat it now. I'm having trouble eating enough at one sitting but I actually ate a 12 oz. steak tonight!! It is a little weird being on the other side where I'm not forcing myself to eat but I'm trying to be conscious of eating enough.
Stopping dairy including heavy cream also helped me.
Wonderful interview 🌞💋💋
Thank you ladies, that was very informative.
I’m pretty sure my wife has lipedema. How would I go about bringing up the subject, we live apart and she thinks my carnivore diet is "abhorrent".
Your quote, "One is too many, and ten is never enough", sums up addiction brilliantly
that is a tough one. I see Lipedema daily but don't say a word because I don't want to put anyone on the defensive. IF you think she might be receptive, perhaps show her photos (there are some great ones in this video - or you can google image search them!) and see if she thinks that it might be her.
Katrina Harris thank you Katrina
Oh this is soooo me. No moderation ability. My keto mug cakes were huge, and I could eat it because I only ate one. Great interview. Love the stale Oreos; I didn't care if they were.
Virginia is also a state where raw milk is illegal. I buy pick up my raw milk allotment subscription from a drop site each week. What I had to do was buy a cow share from the farmer and then he charges my credit card every month for milk. It’s on the principle of owning part of the cow so therefore entitled to the milk it produces. The monthly charge could be seen as helping to pay for the animal’s upkeep.
Kelly. Thank you for all you give to this community. Your interviews are so informative. And thank you to leading me to Brett. He is an awesome guy. Would like to see more men stepping up to share their weight loss and feel better stories. Ketovore on😎
Wow... this really touched on issues I'm having... Yup.... It's GOTTA be the dairy....!!
Getting rid of heavy cream is asking me to give up coffee and I am not ready for that.
LOVE these 2 ladies!!!
Some people have a problem with hard cheeses because its a high histamine food. One day I unknowingly ate high histamine foods all day...cheese , sardines , tuna , beef stock/broth , cottage cheese . Next day I felt like I had bad bronchitis with swollen stuffed up sinus. So people , might not be lactose intolerance or allergy. Taking vitamin C helps alot because it's a natural anti histamine . ....from my experience ! 😉
Just adore you both ❤️❤️
Yes. You can be a moderator. It takes work but it works. It’s based on neuroplasticity. What fires together wires together. I was taught in NLP class to pick a fav food. I was told to have daily if I wanted but each time I had to throw away a 🎉portion of it increasing the amount I throw away each time. My weakness was potato chips. I swear I couldn’t even throw the crumbs away. I would dust the packet iin my mouth after finishing it. It felt initially painful to throw away couple of chips the first time. But then it got easier and easier. I couldn’t believe myself. It just took a week. I was able to put way after having a few pieces.
Anyways, carnivore/ketovore are super healthy way of life. You naturally feel empowered around those addictive foods.
Sounds like lipidemia might simply be PUFA fat, which is hard to get rid of.
A lot of the problem is pasteurization! I agree that dairy should be eaten moderately if at all, but have personally experienced much better results with raw milk cheese. I think raw dairy makes a big difference! But I'll admit it is still hard to moderate. 😅
Raw cheese is a súper food. Its proteins takes 45 minutes to absorb, while meat ones can take 5 hours.
If you can to europe, where most of the cheese is raw, and tell that it isnt healthy, and they will laught at you.
*sorry, "come", not "can".
Why aren't Drs telling us how we can feel better? Oh never mind. It's because they enjoy visiting with us!
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22:26 THIS. IS. ME!! It’s uncanny. I hate having to self-regulate like that as well. I wonder what the underlying cause is, that some of us just cannot moderate. My gut feeling is it’s not about “will power” or anything like that. I feel like a compulsion, like OCD or something almost. There is no resisting that compulsion long-term.
Oh my goodness! Last night I had 4 small strawberries from my strawberry plant doused with heavy cream and extra thick double cream! The strawberries were an excuse to eat the cream! I have got to stop!
Great chat there. Kelly, please please post yr birthday cake recipe in the FILES on ZIOH ? It'd be a great help to many of us. Tnx!
Nonamm Mmamon myzerocarblife.jamesdhogan.com/wp/2020/01/oopsie-cake-recipe/
Do live streams, please!
Just to add...I noticed dairy affects my moods as well:)
Early in my marriage, when my husband and I would bring home a candy bar for each, mine would be eaten the same day. My husband's would sit in a drawer for days/weeks. I told him it would go bad. He said it wouldn't. I just tell people we're related by marriage.
Thank you for helping me understand.... I have zero moderator in me- zero...just abstain Amanda 👍