Cheetahmen II was taken on without me, but they already had all of my good ideas at that point and didn't need me. Thanks about the music, at least we got something right.
I am the composer and all I ever got paid was $500 as a retainer and I was supposed to get $500 per game once they sold a certain amount. Never saw another red cent. Didn't help that me and Vince Perri kinda had it out too, but that's about Bubblegum Rosy and another story.
"Fitting well" is an understatement. As far as I can hear, no alteration to tempo or key was made. Nothing was cut out or lengthened. The chords fit perfectly in key and length. The only difference is the actual melody. Aside from that they are exactly the same song! And listened side by side they still sound unique! Amazing conicidence or an amazing, unobvious remix!
@@UltimatePerfection I think it could have been a strange coincidence, Action 52 and Cheetahmen II(Which was unreleased basically) both were only in the States. Phoenix Wright was originally Japan only and only some years later they released it to the West.
@@presidentforlife1732 I don't really think it can be a coincidence. The two melodies are just too similar. Legally distinct, yeah, but too similar. PW composer must have been into weird American bootlegs or came across the tune some another way (a friend who's into weird American bootlegs?). In any case, I really can't blame him/her for borrowing it, A52 has some kickass music.
@@UltimatePerfection that's the point. Both were hard to come by, or nearly even impossible in their respective countries and a decade apart from eachother, yet they're almost the same with no really possible cross influence. Very strange.
@@UltimatePerfection Very strange. Even if it was plagiarism, i would like to know how the Phoenix Wright composer knew about the Action 52 Cheetahmen tune.
Phoenix Wright: (to himself) "Alright! I've got nothing to lose! Except... Well, everything!" *A yellow hand sets itself on Wright's shoulder. Wright looks back and sees three gigantic, yellow bodies. It's the Cheetahmen standing behind him.* Hercules: "Don't worry, we will fight for you..." *The Cheetahmen run off... And now... OBJECTION!!!*
Usually I'll accept something is just random coincidence. Music tends to have set tempos and speeds to which the majority of music conforms, there are a lot of songs that sound a lot like other songs. But this is sooooo close through the entire song it's hard to write it off.
They both have the same opening riff and that consistent pedal point but they have different tempos and ace attorney has a more complex chord structure. PW may have been inspired by Cheetamen but it isn't a rip off by any means. Composers tend to pull music from everywhere without remembering where it came from.
***** This song is basically all chorus. It's not insane. They are two incredibly basic songs that happen to have a similar underlyimg bass riff but that's it.
I do agree myself, too, especially when you compare two vgms from two different games and turn out to sound similar (e.g Zero stage 2 from MMX5 and Lunatic Eyes from Touhou 8)
@SupperTails66 Thanks. I liked what you made here, and decided it was worth extending. I'm sure some people enjoying listening to something for a really long time.
Phoenix Wright began to explain...he told the defendant of the cases in the court room. "Don't worry, I will fight for you."... Phoenix Wright took the stand...and now...Phoenix Wright.
If that ever happens, just remember that you're home free if you just remember to bump into them, or manage to trick them into jumping off of a floating square. Cheetahmen: "OBJECTION!!!" Everybody else: "OVERRULED!!!"
lol I was listening to smooth mcgrooves version of cornered and was like "man this song sounds like cheetahmen and he should do it" then I find this lol!!! Oh Capcom, how you gon steal from cheetahmen?
Hey, sorry it took me four and a half months to notice this. I've never been big on listening to the same thing for fifteen minutes, but I guess if you like it you like it. Good job.
I'm starting to think that everyone in the videogame music industry just copies each other because there are a LOT of coincidences. Even the iconic Mario theme sounds like something else
OBJECTION! you say that you were able to completely beat ooze. However.... How did you beat it when there's an unavoidable glitch that won't allow you to complete one of the levels?!
what's stopping the creator of the game from coming back and actually making a playable and awesome game to go with that theme? he could really cash in and make his dream come true of those action figures.
It was only a Cheetah and an Attorney how did it end up like this /it was only a cheetah/ /it was only an attorney/ /how could this happen to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/
Don't you love how people will go into conspiracy theories about plagiarism and shit just because two songs sound kind of similar? BECAUSE I FUCKING DO.
@GamingCakes i would pretend like to explain that the robotic arm that got me on the TV then they would fight for me and i will be the ruler of the game world! mwahahahahah!
Cheetahmen is one serious piece of fuck game, but the theme is actually really good. I'm assuming 80% of the budget went towards the song development and the rest was split up amongst the other 52 "games"
Phoenix Wright rans off...
....and now...
The Phoenix Wright
+QVear WHAT KIND OF STORY IS THAT!? - AVGN
+Mint Blais The bad ending of trial and tribulations
+Snoresville _the miracle never happen_
@@NEUTR0NDANCEand now...
The miracle...
I think it's cool the theme I composed a long time ago, is still relevant today. Thank you everyone for the praises.
+zentanith If I may ask, how did cheetahmen II happen? And who wrote the story of the cheetahmen? Nice music, btw.
Cheetahmen II was taken on without me, but they already had all of my good ideas at that point and didn't need me. Thanks about the music, at least we got something right.
If you could, would you continue the story of the cheetahmen?
epic
ever considered giving people freedom to use that catchy song for official games??
the weird part is that they sound really good together
Same. And now this can actually Happen thanks to SiivaGunner's "King for Another Day Tournament." You'll know why in due time. ;)
@@blockeontheleafeon bro i would be mad if they dident
@@cubeman9766 guess what they didn't do. Missed opportunity.
Many missed opportunities overall tbh
@@krankees because it was Momokuma and Phoenix Wright
I am the composer and all I ever got paid was $500 as a retainer and I was supposed to get $500 per game once they sold a certain amount. Never saw another red cent. Didn't help that me and Vince Perri kinda had it out too, but that's about Bubblegum Rosy and another story.
zentanith OH MAH GOSH ZENANITH YOU WERE ACTUALLY THE COMPOSER OF THE CHEETAHMEN THEME?
Edit: whoops forgot a t
*HOW IN THE TATERTOT SUNDAY AM I FINDING YOUR COMMENT NOW AFTER 9 YEARS?!*
"Fitting well" is an understatement. As far as I can hear, no alteration to tempo or key was made. Nothing was cut out or lengthened. The chords fit perfectly in key and length.
The only difference is the actual melody. Aside from that they are exactly the same song! And listened side by side they still sound unique! Amazing conicidence or an amazing, unobvious remix!
Maybe someone working on PW games was fan of Cheetahmen and put it in as homage of sorts?
@@UltimatePerfection I think it could have been a strange coincidence, Action 52 and Cheetahmen II(Which was unreleased basically) both were only in the States. Phoenix Wright was originally Japan only and only some years later they released it to the West.
@@presidentforlife1732 I don't really think it can be a coincidence. The two melodies are just too similar. Legally distinct, yeah, but too similar. PW composer must have been into weird American bootlegs or came across the tune some another way (a friend who's into weird American bootlegs?). In any case, I really can't blame him/her for borrowing it, A52 has some kickass music.
@@UltimatePerfection that's the point. Both were hard to come by, or nearly even impossible in their respective countries and a decade apart from eachother, yet they're almost the same with no really possible cross influence.
Very strange.
@@UltimatePerfection Very strange. Even if it was plagiarism, i would like to know how the Phoenix Wright composer knew about the Action 52 Cheetahmen tune.
During the game you will have three attorneys a different one every second trial to fight for you
So basically Dual Destinies.
holy shit nice find.
2 levels per cheetahs 2 level per enemies attorney.
I knew I wasn't the only one who thought these two themes were similar.
Yeah mean either
HOLD IT!
*slams table*
Your Honour,
Is this what we called *Turnabout Cheetahmen*?
"Apollo" Justice: Tigers and Tribulations
*cheetahs
Phoenix Wright: (to himself) "Alright! I've got nothing to lose! Except... Well, everything!"
*A yellow hand sets itself on Wright's shoulder. Wright looks back and sees three gigantic, yellow bodies. It's the Cheetahmen standing behind him.*
Hercules: "Don't worry, we will fight for you..."
*The Cheetahmen run off... And now... OBJECTION!!!*
Yup, still relevant
Cant wait for this to pop up in everyones recommendations.
Mind=Blown
I believe that the person who pulled the action gamemaster inside....
WAS YOU
0:13 Now all we need is a MORTAL KOMBAT!!! yell 🤣
Still listening to this absolute banger in 2024.
Cheejection!!
That sounds dirty
_C H E E S Y_
Now imagine being trapped in a corner by those three AND Pheonix Wright.......SHIT JUST GOT REAL.
Usually I'll accept something is just random coincidence. Music tends to have set tempos and speeds to which the majority of music conforms, there are a lot of songs that sound a lot like other songs. But this is sooooo close through the entire song it's hard to write it off.
But the thing is, the chorus of the songs are both at the same place. It's absolutely insane.
They both have the same opening riff and that consistent pedal point but they have different tempos and ace attorney has a more complex chord structure. PW may have been inspired by Cheetamen but it isn't a rip off by any means. Composers tend to pull music from everywhere without remembering where it came from.
***** This song is basically all chorus. It's not insane. They are two incredibly basic songs that happen to have a similar underlyimg bass riff but that's it.
I do agree myself, too, especially when you compare two vgms from two different games and turn out to sound similar (e.g Zero stage 2 from MMX5 and Lunatic Eyes from Touhou 8)
Holds up so freakkin much
The Cheetahmen ran off
and now the chee-OBJECTION!
Phoenix:
Your honor, this intro makes NO SENSE!
My mind has just been blown.
@SupperTails66
Thanks. I liked what you made here, and decided it was worth extending. I'm sure some people enjoying listening to something for a really long time.
We need a Slam Jam remix of this.
Nice! I actually noticed this in my head after watching Smooth McGroove's a capella version of this song.
My mind is being blown so hard right now that I'm going to end up paying this video a lot of money when it's done.
The cheetahmen ran off...
and now...
THE CHEETAHMEN!
very good two songs to mix. sounds wonderful!
Maaan, these work nicely together.
Phoenix Wright began to explain...he told the defendant of the cases in the court room. "Don't worry, I will fight for you."... Phoenix Wright took the stand...and now...Phoenix Wright.
This should be in the game...
If that ever happens, just remember that you're home free if you just remember to bump into them, or manage to trick them into jumping off of a floating square.
Cheetahmen: "OBJECTION!!!"
Everybody else: "OVERRULED!!!"
so, this is meta being the first thing I thought hearing this theme mixed with the theme itself
Typed it just for the reactions. Priceless. XD
lol I was listening to smooth mcgrooves version of cornered and was like "man this song sounds like cheetahmen and he should do it" then I find this lol!!! Oh Capcom, how you gon steal from cheetahmen?
That's EXACTLY how I got here :P
Holy sh... you too?
Tei Yamasaki yay 2014
*TAKE THAT!* I got here from the original song's BRSTM on BrawlBRSTMs3's TH-cam channel!
SO DOPE
I might actually use this in a video, thank you!
Phoenix just found out that the Action 51 game is an evidence that the Cheetahmen didn't murder anyone.
you mean Action 52?
Ben S Action 52, yes, my bad.
YashumGod Pi It's actually Action 0. No action whatsoever was found in that cartridge.
***** Good one
Kevin Yonathan OBJECTION! The Cheetahmen theme was found in the cart! That is some action right there!
The miracle never happen
Hey, sorry it took me four and a half months to notice this. I've never been big on listening to the same thing for fifteen minutes, but I guess if you like it you like it. Good job.
There needs to be a Cheetahmen themed Phoenix Wright hack RIGHT NOW!!!!!
mortal kombat + cheetahmen= phoenix wright
This sounds nice
Dr. Morbis...
You genetically altered these creatures!
I'm starting to think that everyone in the videogame music industry just copies each other because there are a LOT of coincidences.
Even the iconic Mario theme sounds like something else
So I'm not the only person who thougnt it XD You made the video: you're great.
Phoenix Wright 52, Action Ace Attorney, make it happen.
Apollo Wright: Action Attorney: Jaguar For All
52 cases in one! It's so cool! Buy it now!
Flash Kirby
Except every case is showing 1 piece of evidence, then the pixelated guy gives up ang goes home not guilty.
rustyvent Yes, but there's 52 of them!
Flash Kirby That's a bargain buy if you ask me.
Flash Kirby These advertisements are why I don't trust the number 52
Screw 52 games in one
Rather have 100000 in 1
Downloaded, fucking classic
Phoenix Men!
And then... the Phoenix Wright...
Lmao
Why does this sound good.
Why wouldn't it?
Alternate universe where Ace Attorney failed horribly, Action 52 never existed, and Cheetahmen was a successful franchise
Cheejection.
Overruled!
@@danielpalacios155 *TAKE THAT!!*
Turnabout Cheetahmen
but it sounds EPIC like this
OBJECTION! you say that you were able to completely beat ooze. However.... How did you beat it when there's an unavoidable glitch that won't allow you to complete one of the levels?!
MORTAL KOMBAT!!
Who else felt like shouting “MORTAL KOMBAT!”
And Now... THE CHEETAHMEN... will take the stand...
Careful, Cheetah Lawyers can smell Contradictions from 15 feet away.
You sir won a sub. And a cookie.
They actually fit...**adds Guile's theme** MWAHAHAHAHHAHAH
i heard this in a flash game once and tried to find it, it was so simple.
no1important Goddamn Syobon Action on the android
what's stopping the creator of the game from coming back and actually making a playable and awesome game to go with that theme? he could really cash in and make his dream come true of those action figures.
it already exist fan games that remade this awesomely
+ninja8tyu the creator actually has a YT account and all, look on this comment section for him.
Furio Tigre: Ace Attorney - Main Theme
Does this mean Phoenix was the Action Gamemaster?
@GamingCakes It'd be worse if they had Phoenix Wright standing there screaming "OBJECTION!" in your ear and shoving things in your face.
Now if only someone would do a remake on the Cheetahmen then I would fucking love cheetahmen.
You're welcome. *Bows*
I think I now know what I want Phoenix Wright's Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 theme to be.
I'm thinking that maybe one of the composers of the Cheetahmen 2 theme worked on PW:AA, or they had that as an intentional Easter egg.
Look at the Cover: Made in America. And PW:AA is not American.
MrPathorn ohhhhhhhh
Well, *Apollo* Justice
MrPathorn Well maybe the guy moved?
Ben Eustis It's about 20 years apart he would have retired or not think about music he made 20 years ago.
"That space was not need" OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH this guy has NOOOOOOOOOO grammar.
Michael Bay is directing the Cheetahmen movie!
A bad director directing a movie of a bad game.
Yeah, seems about right.
HOLY SH-
I SEE YOU EVERYWHERE!! SHSNAMAKHCJFMDKZIXFFFND
Especially if you're surrounded by flags, and trying to find that last mine...
2 people have played cheetahmen
TAKE THAT!
YOU WILL HAVE TO SEE "THE REUNION" COMING TO KICKSTARTER IN THE FALL OF 2013
Jaguars for All
Tigers and Tribulations
Ace Cheeahttorney
and lets not forget:
APOLLO justice
In this game, all the lawyers deal with adultery cases.
why adultery cases?
It was only a Cheetah and an Attorney how did it end up like this
/it was only a cheetah/
/it was only an attorney/
/how could this happen to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/
why does this work?! WHYYYYYYYYY????!!!
Dr. Morbis was clearly one of the dislikes. After all, The Cheetahmen are his failed expirements.
*/OBJECTION!/*
Phoenix wright defended the innocent... And now... Phoenix Wright.
one of the cheetahs is named Apollo
like Apollo Justice
it's a conspiracy
I'd call my lawyer.
Do these two themes actually have the same BPM, or did you need to edit them somewhat?
The Cheetahmen Theme is rearranged to match Cornered but in terms of BPM they're the same.
Abogado Syobon, para servirle 😎
*Gyakuten Syobon/Action Attorney.*
Since when are there lawyers in Cheetahmen 2?
One of the Cheetahmen was named Apollo...
Anyone know who composed the theme originally for Cheetahmen/Cheetahmen II?
Oh fuck.
Cheetah Wright: Ace Cheetaman
La demanda de Mario a Cat Mario
Don't you love how people will go into conspiracy theories about plagiarism and shit just because two songs sound kind of similar?
BECAUSE I FUCKING DO.
Listen at 0.5x speed
such a nice drug trip
+Schmuff hip hop song, drop the mike!
I'm liking 0.75x speed even more
@Sacredfire059
Imagine being trapped in a corner by three bloodthirsty Cheetahmen straight out of one of the worst games in history.
o_O
@GamingCakes i would pretend like to explain that the robotic arm that got me on the TV then they would fight for me and i will be the ruler of the game world! mwahahahahah!
This makes the theme sound quite somber, to be honest.
dont forget Cheetah Edgeman: Ace Cheetaman Investicheet
Cheetahman Ace Attrourney
Cheetahmen is one serious piece of fuck game, but the theme is actually really good. I'm assuming 80% of the budget went towards the song development and the rest was split up amongst the other 52 "games"