The start up process must be followed to the letter. I found that if you do a long count on your three second priming sequence it works every time. I was having the same issue as you and thought it was the start switch binding on my Alpha yoke start switch but priming a little bit longer was the fix. Count one thousand one one thousand two one thousand three slowly instead of 1-2-3 and it works well. Also you need to do a night flight to appreciate the excellent interior night lighting. It is quite good, I dare say the best I have experienced in any aircraft so far. Lots of adjustability and great coverage of all that a pilot needs to see inside. But since it is the default exterior, the outside lighting is poor as usual. Great job on the testing, very in depth and informative. Cheers!
I'll try that myself for starting the aircraft as I struggled to start today, had to resort to a cheeky Ctrl+e (time to unmap that for a bit of immersion) and isn't that almost Russian cockpit-esque blue night light fantastic eh? I Love it!
I am surprised I have never come across this channel before but I have to say I absolutely love your content and presentation. I am as always also amazed that people with your knowledge and skill are willing to dedicate so much of your time and effort for free to us simple mortals. I only used to fly ultralights (the "European" class) IRL so it is a great way to stay at least somewhat up to date!
Re the KNS-81 RNav Unit... The original "Area Nav" for GA Aircraft was the King Radio KR-80 in the late 60's early 70's. This is next generation. Basically, it allows you to place a VOR any place you want and use it for primary navigation. If you had a usable VORTAC, you simply pick a Radial and Distance and make that point a VOR, as far as navigating is concerened. A major step foreward for navigation in those days.
Awesome video. For me, it's all about fidelity and systems and this plane has plenty of both. Thanks for the in depth shake down. Just subscribed, looking forward to more videos from you.
The cowl flaps also add realistic drag on the G36 Improvement Project mod (another mod using the default Bonanza, but free and using the regular glass cockpit included in the default version). The systems modeling that is pretty good, although not on the level of working breakers yet, as far as I know.
Great content as always! Your starting issue though - you’re counting to 3 very quickly!! Three actual seconds priming and mine starts every time. Chuck some Mississippi’s in there!! 29:14
@@FlyFromHome I’m a licensed engineer and even in the simulator world I’m telling pilots to be more patient!! 😂😂😜 Great channel mate, keep up the good work. 👍🏼👍🏼
A36 pilot here. That stall behavior is very close to real life actually. The bonanza has a nasty habit of dropping a wing in a stall if the ball isn’t kept dead center for the duration of the maneuver.
I'm really looking forward to watching this tonight! Your videos are hugely entertaining and I genuinely learn a lot from them 😀 I think the stand-by alternator issue is to do with the Honeycomb Yoke, I have some slight problems with it myself.
That’s great to hear, hope you enjoyed it! Yeah it was, I realised that when restarting the aircraft after my first attempt got corrupted by the recording software 😅
I’m always amazed how the video editing has gotten better over the years, your is great, not too OTT. I bought the Blacksquare Baron add on. One of your dislikes was the startup sequence. I’d like to spin that into a positive bc that’s the way it seems to work out IRL. I do think the turbo is more audible in the Baron than it is in the P Barron but its been a while; i still like it all the same. I wonder if the stall characteristics are bc of tip tanks, which i have no experience with IRL. Thank you for your video 1:52:48
It’s good to hear you say that, I’ve just had to teach myself how to edit videos along with my two colleagues who work on this channel with me and I always worry that it looks a bit amateurish! I have since gotten better at starting the aircraft, I think I was just a bit eager with the fuel pumps in this video. Great to hear some real world experience though!
@@FlyFromHome You should have asked us, we'd tell you. It's simply not permissible. Microsoft/Asobo do not allow you to do that on payware titles. Might seem strange but that's the reason I'm afraid.
Why are hydraulic landing gear systems more reliable? Is it because as long as the fluid is pressurized, the gear will extend, even if the alternator calls it quits.
Pretty much, although most light aircraft systems require the *lack* of pressure to allow the gear to drop, so the emergency extension is a simple valve which releases pressure back into the reservoir. Electric landing gear emergency extension usually involves manually disconnecting the motor then driving the gear down with some kind of crank.
The three variants are a plus and very appreciate that they have chosen to do all of them and with tiptanks. The only shame is the livery, only one ... fortunatly there are simmers providing us with better ones but they could do more...
I think they’re quite a small team, so focus all their efforts on systems/flight model. Like you said, thanks to the fantastic community there are plenty of liveries available!
Hi, Thanks for the video, another great video. Perhaps you can help more with the EDM 800, more specifically with the first phase - the pre-leaning phase. The manual suggests that we must first pre-lean until we see rough peak EGT on the bar graph. My question: How is “rough peak EGT on the bar graph” represented on the EDM 800 bar graph? I also had a look at the operation manual from the EDM 800 manufacture, this is what it mentions: Leaning is as simple as: 1. Pre-lean your mixture. Pre-lean the mixture to 50°F estimated rich of peak on any EGT. The leaning process typically begins with ‘pre-leaning’ to insure all cylinders are operating rich of peak EGT. Now enrichen the mixture to achieve a 50° drop on the hottest EGT. Insure that all EGT’s decrease. Wait one minute to allow temperatures to stabilize. 2. Tap the LF button (verify LOP appears). 3. Lean mixture until RICHEST flashes (peak found). 4. Enrichen to the desired value ‘Lean Of Peak’. Many thanks in advance for your help. Julian
Hi Julian, thanks for the comment! Glad you enjoyed the video. It's been years since I flew an aircraft with an EDM800 equipped, so I'm afraid I'm about as clued in as you are about the leaning process! I followed the process as you mentioned and just waited a bit and it started flashing to indicate the peak, then added mixture until around -15 or so rich of peak (as detailed in the BS manual).
Literally, first time I took the turbo up, I apparently had a left tank fuel lake and almost ran out of fuel on the left tank 20 minutes into the flight lol. Thought it was a bug until I looked.
Thanks for an excellent review. Who cares whether the door opens, or the weirdo Millennial passengers are missing. And for stall/spin, you’d never spin this airplane in real life (intentionally!). You’d go hire an aerobatic airplane for that sort of training, and stay utterly away from ever going there in your heavy expensive Bonanza, except for learning to recognize the stall onset. I want to learn the systems and procedures for a complex single, and IFR, and this looks absolutely perfect for those goals. Even the new Comanche misses the mark for me-weird avionics, mph instead of knots… maybe later. Congrats, you just helped Black Square sell a seat!
A2A Simulations is developing outstanding vaporware effects for their upcoming Comanche. Everyone should be able to never see it no matter what hardware they currently have.
"Your other left!" They can't edit the model, because they don't have rights to do it. I think we talked about this one evening, but they'd have to get hold of a complete external model, which tbh compared to the time they have to put into the systems work - and this is talking from first-hand experience on other projects - is a small fraction of the effort put into the systems, provided they can even get hold of a modeller to do it... that's not actually easy. Unless they integrated into JF a little, which would probably be the ideal given they're going to run out of default aircraft at some point.
They have a modeller for the interiors -which can be horribly awkward/fiddly/time-consuming ( assuming they didn't just take the adobo interior & edit it... ). I guess they just decided it wasn't cost effective to do the exterior.
@@blindsight_music_ Not malicious, but a lame excuse. If licensing issues prevent the remodeling of open doors then surely it should just as well have forbidden the modeling of wingtip tanks. Simple logic, actually. 😁
@@kokoeteantigha389 given the absolutely insane extent to which they’ve modeled the systems, i don’t think they’re just too lazy to model the doors. that would be weird logic.
This is an absolutely fantastic channel. If you want to learn how to operate the aircraft exactly as they should be, this is the place to learn!
Really glad to hear that you think that!
But not how to learn to land!
There is nothing more in-depth available, you are such a gem.
Thank you!
+++++
The start up process must be followed to the letter. I found that if you do a long count on your three second priming sequence it works every time. I was having the same issue as you and thought it was the start switch binding on my Alpha yoke start switch but priming a little bit longer was the fix. Count one thousand one one thousand two one thousand three slowly instead of 1-2-3 and it works well. Also you need to do a night flight to appreciate the excellent interior night lighting. It is quite good, I dare say the best I have experienced in any aircraft so far. Lots of adjustability and great coverage of all that a pilot needs to see inside. But since it is the default exterior, the outside lighting is poor as usual. Great job on the testing, very in depth and informative. Cheers!
I'll try that myself for starting the aircraft as I struggled to start today, had to resort to a cheeky Ctrl+e (time to unmap that for a bit of immersion) and isn't that almost Russian cockpit-esque blue night light fantastic eh? I Love it!
Thanks, I’ll give that a go next time! Hope you enjoyed the video 😊
Yup, I either count slow or add 1 second, starts every time..
Best MSFS-Reviews on the net, thank you for your work!
My pleasure!
So happy to see another video from you! It's always such a treat.
Glad you enjoy it!
I am surprised I have never come across this channel before but I have to say I absolutely love your content and presentation. I am as always also amazed that people with your knowledge and skill are willing to dedicate so much of your time and effort for free to us simple mortals. I only used to fly ultralights (the "European" class) IRL so it is a great way to stay at least somewhat up to date!
Thank you, you’re too kind! Liking the vids and sharing them around helps grow the channel, just sayin’ 😉
Excellent video. I have purchased the Bonanza and this has taught me a lot! Will be using this video as my reference guide. Well done.
Thanks! Glad you found it useful.
Re the KNS-81 RNav Unit... The original "Area Nav" for GA Aircraft was the King Radio KR-80 in the late 60's early 70's. This is next generation. Basically, it allows you to place a VOR any place you want and use it for primary navigation. If you had a usable VORTAC, you simply pick a Radial and Distance and make that point a VOR, as far as navigating is concerened. A major step foreward for navigation in those days.
Yes! I’ve had a play around with one in real life but it was beyond my millennial brain to figure it out 😂
Amazing video thank you, so in depth and an honest, valued opinion will be watching your channel with great interest.
Thank you!
Awesome video. For me, it's all about fidelity and systems and this plane has plenty of both. Thanks for the in depth shake down. Just subscribed, looking forward to more videos from you.
Yep, attention to detail is what all good flight sim aircraft have in spades. Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the sub!
I love these nice short summaries. Good work ;)
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2 hours! The pizza I need to watch this video is on you. =) Thanks for letting us have your serious-high-quality content. =)
Mmmm pizza 🍕
Thanks, fantastic video as always, and an excellent aircraft this is!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The cowl flaps also add realistic drag on the G36 Improvement Project mod (another mod using the default Bonanza, but free and using the regular glass cockpit included in the default version). The systems modeling that is pretty good, although not on the level of working breakers yet, as far as I know.
That’s good to know!
Great content as always! Your starting issue though - you’re counting to 3 very quickly!! Three actual seconds priming and mine starts every time. Chuck some Mississippi’s in there!! 29:14
Yep, my mistake!
@@FlyFromHome I’m a licensed engineer and even in the simulator world I’m telling pilots to be more patient!! 😂😂😜 Great channel mate, keep up the good work. 👍🏼👍🏼
A36 pilot here. That stall behavior is very close to real life actually. The bonanza has a nasty habit of dropping a wing in a stall if the ball isn’t kept dead center for the duration of the maneuver.
Oh really?! Thanks for the info!
I'm really looking forward to watching this tonight! Your videos are hugely entertaining and I genuinely learn a lot from them 😀
I think the stand-by alternator issue is to do with the Honeycomb Yoke, I have some slight problems with it myself.
That’s great to hear, hope you enjoyed it! Yeah it was, I realised that when restarting the aircraft after my first attempt got corrupted by the recording software 😅
I’m always amazed how the video editing has gotten better over the years, your is great, not too OTT. I bought the Blacksquare Baron add on. One of your dislikes was the startup sequence. I’d like to spin that into a positive bc that’s the way it seems to work out IRL. I do think the turbo is more audible in the Baron than it is in the P Barron but its been a while; i still like it all the same. I wonder if the stall characteristics are bc of tip tanks, which i have no experience with IRL. Thank you for your video 1:52:48
It’s good to hear you say that, I’ve just had to teach myself how to edit videos along with my two colleagues who work on this channel with me and I always worry that it looks a bit amateurish! I have since gotten better at starting the aircraft, I think I was just a bit eager with the fuel pumps in this video. Great to hear some real world experience though!
Fabulous review. Kept clicking the x on checklist😂
😜
Thanks!
Watched vid, patted myself on the back 10/10
Congrats 😜
I'm not a programmer but other reviewers have said that it is not possible to add opening doors to the default model.
Yeah I’ve heard the same thing, but I can’t help but think why that is 🤔
@@FlyFromHome It's not that it's impossible. It's licensing. Even if they did edit the exterior model, they couldn't include it in a payware package.
@@FlyFromHome You should have asked us, we'd tell you. It's simply not permissible. Microsoft/Asobo do not allow you to do that on payware titles. Might seem strange but that's the reason I'm afraid.
Why are hydraulic landing gear systems more reliable? Is it because as long as the fluid is pressurized, the gear will extend, even if the alternator calls it quits.
Pretty much, although most light aircraft systems require the *lack* of pressure to allow the gear to drop, so the emergency extension is a simple valve which releases pressure back into the reservoir. Electric landing gear emergency extension usually involves manually disconnecting the motor then driving the gear down with some kind of crank.
The three variants are a plus and very appreciate that they have chosen to do all of them and with tiptanks. The only shame is the livery, only one ... fortunatly there are simmers providing us with better ones but they could do more...
I think they’re quite a small team, so focus all their efforts on systems/flight model. Like you said, thanks to the fantastic community there are plenty of liveries available!
Hi,
Thanks for the video, another great video.
Perhaps you can help more with the EDM 800, more specifically with the first phase - the pre-leaning phase.
The manual suggests that we must first pre-lean until we see rough peak EGT on the bar graph.
My question:
How is “rough peak EGT on the bar graph” represented on the EDM 800 bar graph?
I also had a look at the operation manual from the EDM 800 manufacture, this is what it mentions:
Leaning is as simple as:
1. Pre-lean your mixture.
Pre-lean the mixture to 50°F estimated rich of peak on any EGT.
The leaning process typically begins with ‘pre-leaning’ to insure all cylinders are operating rich of peak EGT. Now enrichen the mixture to achieve a 50° drop on the hottest EGT. Insure that all EGT’s decrease. Wait one minute to allow temperatures to stabilize.
2. Tap the LF button (verify LOP appears).
3. Lean mixture until RICHEST flashes (peak found).
4. Enrichen to the desired value ‘Lean Of Peak’.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Julian
Hi Julian, thanks for the comment! Glad you enjoyed the video.
It's been years since I flew an aircraft with an EDM800 equipped, so I'm afraid I'm about as clued in as you are about the leaning process! I followed the process as you mentioned and just waited a bit and it started flashing to indicate the peak, then added mixture until around -15 or so rich of peak (as detailed in the BS manual).
I can start this by the checklist with the pumps off, but it needs 1 more second of prime and you still have to crank it a minute...
Yeah I’ve gathered, guess it was a skill issue all along!
Literally, first time I took the turbo up, I apparently had a left tank fuel lake and almost ran out of fuel on the left tank 20 minutes into the flight lol. Thought it was a bug until I looked.
Gotta keep an eye on those failures! 😂
Thanks for an excellent review. Who cares whether the door opens, or the weirdo Millennial passengers are missing. And for stall/spin, you’d never spin this airplane in real life (intentionally!). You’d go hire an aerobatic airplane for that sort of training, and stay utterly away from ever going there in your heavy expensive Bonanza, except for learning to recognize the stall onset. I want to learn the systems and procedures for a complex single, and IFR, and this looks absolutely perfect for those goals. Even the new Comanche misses the mark for me-weird avionics, mph instead of knots… maybe later. Congrats, you just helped Black Square sell a seat!
Glad you enjoyed it! Yep, it’s a good aircraft for learning systems and procedures.
@@FlyFromHome I went for the Bonanza/Baron combo. You deserve a finder’s fee. Can you share where you found the Bonanza POH?
I honestly can’t remember! A bit of google detective work I think!
How did you get the Standby Alternator enunciator light to finally turn off? I can't figure it out to save my life.
I genuinely can’t remember… I’m sorry!
How come the Radar Alt gauge is not registering?
What part of the video are you referencing? Rad alts usually don’t register above around 2,500 feet.
A2A Simulations is developing outstanding vaporware effects for their upcoming Comanche. Everyone should be able to never see it no matter what hardware they currently have.
I want to believe 😂
@@FlyFromHome The truth is nowhere
don`t you know how to fix the issue, my autopilot doesn`t respond when using gns 530
Making sure you have the latest updates of the WT GPS and the aircraft is usually a good starting point.
"Your other left!"
They can't edit the model, because they don't have rights to do it. I think we talked about this one evening, but they'd have to get hold of a complete external model, which tbh compared to the time they have to put into the systems work - and this is talking from first-hand experience on other projects - is a small fraction of the effort put into the systems, provided they can even get hold of a modeller to do it... that's not actually easy. Unless they integrated into JF a little, which would probably be the ideal given they're going to run out of default aircraft at some point.
A JF-made external model with that level of fidelity on the systems would be excellent.
They have a modeller for the interiors -which can be horribly awkward/fiddly/time-consuming ( assuming they didn't just take the adobo interior & edit it... ). I guess they just decided it wasn't cost effective to do the exterior.
Are you going to do one about the Baron?
Yep, should be!
@@FlyFromHome Awesome.
So they can't model opening doors but they can fit in wingtip tanks!! Sorry, but I cannot quite follow this logic.
Apparently it’s a licensing issue. They literally aren’t allowed to by Asobo/Microsoft 🤷🏻♂️
so instead, you’re saying they are maliciously refusing to model the doors and lying about why? I don’t see that logic either 😂
@@blindsight_music_ Not malicious, but a lame excuse. If licensing issues prevent the remodeling of open doors then surely it should just as well have forbidden the modeling of wingtip tanks. Simple logic, actually. 😁
@@kokoeteantigha389 given the absolutely insane extent to which they’ve modeled the systems, i don’t think they’re just too lazy to model the doors. that would be weird logic.
@@blindsight_music_ Did I use the word "lazy"?
Looks like a nice mod. Just too much money - compared to eg the milviz 310r which is a whole new model.
True, but the 310 is a lot more expensive! It’s more of a fair comparison to look at it alongside the Just Flight Pa28s.
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