Excellent video, as always! I already put in 3 hours on this plane and am blown away at how on-task you have to stay with it. Normally my flight simming consisted of takeoff, climb, coffee break, cruise, coffee break, descent, coffee break, approach, landing. Now I feel I no longer have time to lollygag about with the sim, and I don't mean that as a complaint. Best $30 spent. 10/10 video.
I am completely astonished with this gem of an aircraft, so much loving care went into this... Emanuele's handle on technical knowledge is a blessing for all of us. Thank you.
I'm so glad I found your channel. I've learn't more watching this one video than all the others combined. PLEASE get the Milviz 310R and show us all how to fly it properly!
OMG! I’ve got a real 737 pilot flying my favorite new GA add-on for Microsoft flight simulator! How freaking cool is this? As a real-world single engine instrument pilot I feel that this channel is definitely making me a better SIM pilot and also a better real world pilot. 😊😊
@@idekav. That's awesome! Key thing. is having an instructor that's a good match for you. Everybody has a different style: a CFII that's right. for one student may. not be right for another. Show confidence in the cockpit: if you convince the examiner that you know what you doing and will not panic, he's more likely to cut you some slack. Remember that ATC works for you. Don't be afraid to politely negotiate with them when appropriate. IFR flying means making good decisions but also taking ownership: show your instructor that you;'re ready to break off an approach rather than force something that's not working: that's what you'll be expected to do in the real world. Lastly, instrument flying is about discrete "modules" that are strung together: "brief the approach", "join the glideslope", "configure the plane for approach", "transition to cruise climb", etc. Practice all of these things on their own on the ground and get them organized in your head. Like flashcards: how to I configure my plane for fling the approach: flaps, power, speed, etc. If you have the checklist for all of these individual modules memorized, much easier to string them together. Lastly, and this is really important: learn the power/pitch settings for each key airspeed for your plane: Vy, Vx, approach speed, etc. Ask your instructor and the school's head instructor to help you learn this. You will be MUCH better off when you can just pitch X degrees and set power to Y to achieve a specific airspeed. Will make everything much easier. I look forward to welcoming you to the instrument brotherhood/sisterhood soon!
@@Senor0Droolcup Modules. I’ll have to remember that. I am only a low-time sport pilot but certain that IFR sim training will improve my VFR flying. It already has, as the GNS 530/430 in MSFS has taught me to help my IFR flying buddy with radios and flight plans. Also bought Rod Machado’s online IFR course, and it is fantastic. Ridiculous 90s animations, horrible jokes and all! Just bought the BS Bonanza/Baron package, looking forward to getting started.
Hello, This plane is now the one I use most but it'll be better the day it will really save its configuration every time. For the moment the developpers are struggling with that issue. The configuration is saved maybe only 2 time out of 3 and it's a deception because it means it is reseted very often. It's the main intersting thing about this plane and it doesn't work. Anyways, I appreciate a lot of things on this plane. A complete set of instruments and most of them are analog and easier to read than digital ones. A very good plane to learn VFR and IFR.
I don't know why MSFS wants all aircraft to use approach flaps for takeoff. This is not normal procedure for the Bonanza and most small aircraft. Anyway, I want this and the analog Baron as soon as I can get it. Typical speeds for Bonanza in the pattern are 100kts downwind, 90 kts base, 80kts final. POH says 76 kts for final...
Now with the oncoming Black Square Duke series we have a good comparison of the same plane but with two different engine types: piston and turbine. Seeing this is so strange I always thought a small GA aircraft turbine like the PT-6 is very complicated to handle with lots of things to take care off and lots of things that can go wrong, while a piston engine is simple as a car: turning the starter key over and fly away. Seeing the Duke series I was very surprised that it is vice versa, the turbine is the easy one-click-engine fully controlled by some electronic control unit, while these old 400hp piston monsters from the seventies have a lot of exciting details to take care off, for example not pulling down the engine lever back to idle too fast or it will go out, several different starting challenges (vapor lock, cold oil, hydraulicking, pre-heating the engine with a butane gas blower, manually letting just a bit of fuel into the pistons before starting her up, and many more things to take care off like unable to air-start an engine again when prop feathering is active and locked after all oil pressure was lost in the propeller govenor.) Thanks to the ultimative Black Square realism I finally found out that a real GA airplane is in no way simple as a car or an Airbus! But a truly deep and exciting machine. I hope you will make a few long flights with both the new Dukes too :) The Dukes are gonna be even more exciting and deep and study-level than this already very amazing Black Square Bonanza was.
As far as props go on Xbox, the original one of this I bought (year ago?) and the Cessna Skymaster are some of my favorites GA to fly (besides some turbo props I’m not including). Handle excellent and have a good feel of 70s aviation mixed in a modern age in nice little package.
Wow! Fantastic to see your passion for aviation in the GA space despite "making it" to the heavy aircraft. Quick Q, does varying the cabin heater also affect the amount of heat being scavenged from the engine and cylinder head temperature / performance is also affected? Thanks for the review. This is what simulation should be!!!!
NOTICE - I am pretty sure the window defroster works only if cabin heat is on. I ran into the same issue, can't have hot air to defrost without cabin heat, right? I love this plane.
Captain, how do you have AIRAC cycle 2209 in your GTNXi? Mine is on 2104 and it doesn't seem like I can update it... Edit - I realize this might be an outreach considering you're a RL pilot and probably have access to updated Garmin DB... xD
Great review I love these machines... the only thing that I find is very far from realistic is the start itself, not just on this plane either. I've never been in a 6 cylinder single or twin that doesn't slowly rumble to life, that requires you to leave it at low rpm until it starts smoothing out and then increase power to get it stable and smooth before reducing power to warm-up idle.
That's the outside air pressure. When the engine is off the manifold pressure gage basically becomes an altimeter as all it shows is the pressure of the air in the manifold.
I don’t know if the climb rate is superb, but your fps aren’t, at 27:00. How much of this performance disaster should be linked with the use of this mod?
Quick question: You said cabin heat shouldn't be used on the ground. May I ask for the reason? I currently learn on SEP and carb heat shouldn't be used on the ground for longer periods but never heard something like that about cabin heat. To my knowledge cabin heat guides the cabin air along the exhaust to warm it up so I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't be used on the ground. I'd love to learn more and the actual reasons if my assumption is wrong. Have a good day!
In the real Bonanza, the cabin heater system is fed by a ram air port. It's possible that when idling or taxiing the ram air speed isn't high enough to supply the heater system, resulting in the potential for overheating.
Many thanks for the thorough video! I have been considering picking up a nice prop aircraft for the sim, but now I am torn between the 414 and this one 😅
Prop yes, mixture depending on the airfield elevation. But yes, I forgot the mixture in this video (or to be more precise: Pushed the wrong lever on my joystick 😂👍🏼)
Which GPS are included? Just about to watch our review, but need som breakfast first.. =) I'm also having a hard time to decide in between which Blacksquare Overhaul aircraft to get...
Loved the video but you operate that cabin heater knob like my wife does in the car (all or none). Been married 35 years and it hasn't gotten any better. God bless her, she is perfect otherwise unlike me.
As usual great video...not sure if you can..would it be possible to show how to do the VOR approach 17 into Canberra (yscb) using the AP from overhead the VOR...i have done it in the WB172 but my acft does not line up with the rwy?...not sure if i am doing it right?...Regards
I feel kinda lonely on this, but once I got used to glass cockpits, I could not go back to the old steam gauges. Is there any way to get a more realistic Bonanza that still has the glass cockpit?
Hard to say as they serve different roles. The King Air surely is the more complex machine to fly, but the Bonanza just fills a gap for me in "faster-than-a-C172" private aircraft. I just love 'em both. If you're unsure which of the two to get I'd recommend to check for the role of the plane you're looking for. IFR routes carrying around some mid-size company CEOs? Surely get the King Air. Recreational private flying in a private aircraft? The Bonanza's your call.
It's Regensburg EDNR in the south of Germany. It's included in Bavarian Airfields 2. Can recommend the clear prop Bavarian Airfields 1+2. It includes alot of small GA Airfields in south of Germany.
Unfortunately I can’t have this on xbox I bought a really expensive pc for my father only for MSFS and xplane and I can see the differences. I hope one day all this will come to xbox. In mean time I do really good guides for Vatsim. Sorry for my English language.
Your English seems ok to me, but I’m not a native speaker anyway. Regarding the Xbox version, I feel sorry for you, but the Xbox version was a bad idea from the beginning (from user’s point of view, yet very profitable for MS, I’m sure). There shouldn’t have been an Xbox version at all. It just ends up with a more complicated development, and a lot of disappointed people. I went away from PCs years ago and then felt I needed one again, for flights I’m purpose only. DCS that is, but also MSFS down the road.
@@fabiena1787 To tell you the truth I met flight simulator from xbox :) otherwise was impossible to flight. Now I am looking the cost of lessons for real flight and I don’t know what is better to pay again 10k Euro for Simulator pc or to pay for lessons :). I know I paid a lot but the smile for my father after e3 when surprise him was priceless.
@@A330Driver checked the climb & cruise section of the manual and it says full or wide open throttle, but not power, and that the only difference between the NA and the TN version is the mixture setting. So climb power would be full throttle with the RPMs pulled back to 2500 like the checklist says
I agree, that it does not look realistic to reduce engine condition by 15% in 2h. You would have to run it without oil, or something like that to damage it like that... There is something wrong, or exaggerated here (like in PMDG DC6, which requires engine service every 40h or so)
The 310R is definitely one of the best. I feel like it’s almost a tossup between the analog Bonanza and the 310R. Each plane has its strengths. The Bonanza has better radio navigation and engine modeling. And the 310R has a better exterior model and sounds. I’m still undecided on the flight model though. The 310 can sometimes feel like a paper airplane in turbulence but the Bonanza feels almost too easy to fly. The component degradation and failures seems better simulated in the 310. My opinion could change in the future. I’ve got 500 hours in the 310 and 5 in the Bonanza. If I had to chose only one I’d go with the 310R that plane is the complete package.
Is your sim stuttering like that all the time or just when you're recording videos? Looks horrible and would be totally unflyable for me. A switch to AMD CPU with 3d cache would probably help a lot.
Excellent video, as always! I already put in 3 hours on this plane and am blown away at how on-task you have to stay with it. Normally my flight simming consisted of takeoff, climb, coffee break, cruise, coffee break, descent, coffee break, approach, landing. Now I feel I no longer have time to lollygag about with the sim, and I don't mean that as a complaint. Best $30 spent. 10/10 video.
Hey, that is just how I fly! (with the coffee breaks)
What even is lollygagging. 😂
I am completely astonished with this gem of an aircraft, so much loving care went into this... Emanuele's handle on technical knowledge is a blessing for all of us. Thank you.
I'm so glad I found your channel. I've learn't more watching this one video than all the others combined. PLEASE get the Milviz 310R and show us all how to fly it properly!
Wonderfull. Your cabintemp was rising quickly. During the runup I took my coat of :) Thanks for this review!
OMG! I’ve got a real 737 pilot flying my favorite new GA add-on for Microsoft flight simulator! How freaking cool is this? As a real-world single engine instrument pilot I feel that this channel is definitely making me a better SIM pilot and also a better real world pilot. 😊😊
Hey man I’m training to be instrument rated any tips?
@@idekav. That's awesome! Key thing. is having an instructor that's a good match for you. Everybody has a different style: a CFII that's right. for one student may. not be right for another. Show confidence in the cockpit: if you convince the examiner that you know what you doing and will not panic, he's more likely to cut you some slack. Remember that ATC works for you. Don't be afraid to politely negotiate with them when appropriate. IFR flying means making good decisions but also taking ownership: show your instructor that you;'re ready to break off an approach rather than force something that's not working: that's what you'll be expected to do in the real world. Lastly, instrument flying is about discrete "modules" that are strung together: "brief the approach", "join the glideslope", "configure the plane for approach", "transition to cruise climb", etc. Practice all of these things on their own on the ground and get them organized in your head. Like flashcards: how to I configure my plane for fling the approach: flaps, power, speed, etc. If you have the checklist for all of these individual modules memorized, much easier to string them together.
Lastly, and this is really important: learn the power/pitch settings for each key airspeed for your plane: Vy, Vx, approach speed, etc. Ask your instructor and the school's head instructor to help you learn this. You will be MUCH better off when you can just pitch X degrees and set power to Y to achieve a specific airspeed. Will make everything much easier.
I look forward to welcoming you to the instrument brotherhood/sisterhood soon!
@@Senor0Droolcup Modules. I’ll have to remember that. I am only a low-time sport pilot but certain that IFR sim training will improve my VFR flying. It already has, as the GNS 530/430 in MSFS has taught me to help my IFR flying buddy with radios and flight plans. Also bought Rod Machado’s online IFR course, and it is fantastic. Ridiculous 90s animations, horrible jokes and all! Just bought the BS Bonanza/Baron package, looking forward to getting started.
@@patrickunderwood5662 Wonderful! Love Ron Machado to bits!!!
Thanks again for a great video as always. Love the time you put aside to educate and entertain us out here TH-cam land.
My pleasure!
Excellent video. So real. I’m looking forward to getting this into the virtual skies. Thanks for doing the tutorial.
@06:15 This thing is pressurized? Or why is there an oxygen system? I didn't know old Bo's had that.
It's not pressurized, but that's the reason it has an oxygen system: To supply people with oxygen when flying above FL100.
I learned a lot with regards TAS on this video, thanks very much! Really enjoyed watching 😊
Hello,
This plane is now the one I use most but it'll be better the day it will really save its configuration every time. For the moment the developpers are struggling with that issue. The configuration is saved maybe only 2 time out of 3 and it's a deception because it means it is reseted very often. It's the main intersting thing about this plane and it doesn't work.
Anyways, I appreciate a lot of things on this plane. A complete set of instruments and most of them are analog and easier to read than digital ones. A very good plane to learn VFR and IFR.
Excellent video.
I don't know why MSFS wants all aircraft to use approach flaps for takeoff. This is not normal procedure for the Bonanza and most small aircraft. Anyway, I want this and the analog Baron as soon as I can get it. Typical speeds for Bonanza in the pattern are 100kts downwind, 90 kts base, 80kts final. POH says 76 kts for final...
Now with the oncoming Black Square Duke series we have a good comparison of the same plane but with two different engine types: piston and turbine. Seeing this is so strange I always thought a small GA aircraft turbine like the PT-6 is very complicated to handle with lots of things to take care off and lots of things that can go wrong, while a piston engine is simple as a car: turning the starter key over and fly away.
Seeing the Duke series I was very surprised that it is vice versa, the turbine is the easy one-click-engine fully controlled by some electronic control unit, while these old 400hp piston monsters from the seventies have a lot of exciting details to take care off, for example not pulling down the engine lever back to idle too fast or it will go out, several different starting challenges (vapor lock, cold oil, hydraulicking, pre-heating the engine with a butane gas blower, manually letting just a bit of fuel into the pistons before starting her up, and many more things to take care off like unable to air-start an engine again when prop feathering is active and locked after all oil pressure was lost in the propeller govenor.)
Thanks to the ultimative Black Square realism I finally found out that a real GA airplane is in no way simple as a car or an Airbus! But a truly deep and exciting machine.
I hope you will make a few long flights with both the new Dukes too :)
The Dukes are gonna be even more exciting and deep and study-level than this already very amazing Black Square Bonanza was.
Indeed, pistons need far more attention than turbines! Can’t wait to showcase you the Dukes in due time!
As far as props go on Xbox, the original one of this I bought (year ago?) and the Cessna Skymaster are some of my favorites GA to fly (besides some turbo props I’m not including). Handle excellent and have a good feel of 70s aviation mixed in a modern age in nice little package.
Wow!
Fantastic to see your passion for aviation in the GA space despite "making it" to the heavy aircraft.
Quick Q, does varying the cabin heater also affect the amount of heat being scavenged from the engine and cylinder head temperature / performance is also affected?
Thanks for the review. This is what simulation should be!!!!
NOTICE - I am pretty sure the window defroster works only if cabin heat is on. I ran into the same issue, can't have hot air to defrost without cabin heat, right? I love this plane.
I have an older overclocked 10700k and a 2080 super and this plane flies butter smooth for me in case anyone is interested.
Captain, how do you have AIRAC cycle 2209 in your GTNXi? Mine is on 2104 and it doesn't seem like I can update it...
Edit - I realize this might be an outreach considering you're a RL pilot and probably have access to updated Garmin DB... xD
that why I stay with the PMS GTN 750 is for that reason, the NXi airac cannot be updated
Yeah, I would like to know this as well.
Great review I love these machines... the only thing that I find is very far from realistic is the start itself, not just on this plane either. I've never been in a 6 cylinder single or twin that doesn't slowly rumble to life, that requires you to leave it at low rpm until it starts smoothing out and then increase power to get it stable and smooth before reducing power to warm-up idle.
Thanks for the flight! I’m really enjoying the analog Bonanza. Would you consider doing a video on using the RNAV system?
Hi Peter, thanks! That's something I'll definitely consider.
Beautiful model, but why is the Manifold pressure gauge indicating about 28 with the engine off?
That's the outside air pressure. When the engine is off the manifold pressure gage basically becomes an altimeter as all it shows is the pressure of the air in the manifold.
I don’t know if the climb rate is superb, but your fps aren’t, at 27:00. How much of this performance disaster should be linked with the use of this mod?
...or was it the stream and / or recording that made it stutter? Got a bit worried there...
It was a fuckup of the recording software, in my sim everything was super smooth. Perfect frames throughout.
The plane is great! How did you manage to get your engine down to 85% after only 2.5 hours!? Haha. Great video
This is not study level flight model.. Which is very important. But very nice interior.
Have you got the Black Square Analog King Air; ..I'd like to see a tutorial from you..
Quick question: You said cabin heat shouldn't be used on the ground. May I ask for the reason? I currently learn on SEP and carb heat shouldn't be used on the ground for longer periods but never heard something like that about cabin heat. To my knowledge cabin heat guides the cabin air along the exhaust to warm it up so I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't be used on the ground. I'd love to learn more and the actual reasons if my assumption is wrong. Have a good day!
In the real Bonanza, the cabin heater system is fed by a ram air port. It's possible that when idling or taxiing the ram air speed isn't high enough to supply the heater system, resulting in the potential for overheating.
@@OldheadBoomer Thank you, I appreciate it. That was a great explanation
Trying to decide between the upgraded Caravan, King air or this. Any suggestions as to which is the best among these?
Many thanks for the thorough video! I have been considering picking up a nice prop aircraft for the sim, but now I am torn between the 414 and this one 😅
414. Or the analog king air are great.
Great Video. Exactly what I was looking for. Shouldn't prop and mixture go full forward when landing?
Prop yes, mixture depending on the airfield elevation. But yes, I forgot the mixture in this video (or to be more precise: Pushed the wrong lever on my joystick 😂👍🏼)
you should do more GA stuff.........
Indeed, I only wish I had the time to learn how to fly all these properly!
Which GPS are included? Just about to watch our review, but need som breakfast first.. =)
I'm also having a hard time to decide in between which Blacksquare Overhaul aircraft to get...
TDS, PMS50, GND530/430
Loved the video but you operate that cabin heater knob like my wife does in the car (all or none).
Been married 35 years and it hasn't gotten any better.
God bless her, she is perfect otherwise unlike me.
As usual great video...not sure if you can..would it be possible to show how to do the VOR approach 17 into Canberra (yscb) using the AP from overhead the VOR...i have done it in the WB172 but my acft does not line up with the rwy?...not sure if i am doing it right?...Regards
The English word for German " Donau" is "The Danube".
Please advise the name of the airport for this video. I heard you say it but it was too fast and I couldn't understand. Thank you.
I feel kinda lonely on this, but once I got used to glass cockpits, I could not go back to the old steam gauges. Is there any way to get a more realistic Bonanza that still has the glass cockpit?
I’m afraid not to this level. I can really recommend the COWS DA-42 however! It’s an awesome G1000 equipped aircraft!
Hi Emanuel,
Which you liked better - the Bonanza or the King Air?
Hard to say as they serve different roles. The King Air surely is the more complex machine to fly, but the Bonanza just fills a gap for me in "faster-than-a-C172" private aircraft.
I just love 'em both.
If you're unsure which of the two to get I'd recommend to check for the role of the plane you're looking for. IFR routes carrying around some mid-size company CEOs? Surely get the King Air.
Recreational private flying in a private aircraft? The Bonanza's your call.
very nice!
Nice video as always 😁 What is the departure field name ?
It's Regensburg EDNR in the south of Germany. It's included in Bavarian Airfields 2. Can recommend the clear prop Bavarian Airfields 1+2. It includes alot of small GA Airfields in south of Germany.
@@augustedelstoff1 Thanks i will have a look.
Unfortunately I can’t have this on xbox I bought a really expensive pc for my father only for MSFS and xplane and I can see the differences. I hope one day all this will come to xbox. In mean time I do really good guides for Vatsim. Sorry for my English language.
Your English seems ok to me, but I’m not a native speaker anyway. Regarding the Xbox version, I feel sorry for you, but the Xbox version was a bad idea from the beginning (from user’s point of view, yet very profitable for MS, I’m sure). There shouldn’t have been an Xbox version at all. It just ends up with a more complicated development, and a lot of disappointed people. I went away from PCs years ago and then felt I needed one again, for flights I’m purpose only. DCS that is, but also MSFS down the road.
@@fabiena1787 To tell you the truth I met flight simulator from xbox :) otherwise was impossible to flight. Now I am looking the cost of lessons for real flight and I don’t know what is better to pay again 10k Euro for Simulator pc or to pay for lessons :). I know I paid a lot but the smile for my father after e3 when surprise him was priceless.
Does this airplane have a left-turning tendency after lift-off?
It certainly has. That's expected however, you've got an aileron trim to counter that.
checklist says you should have 2500rpm for climb. Might be why you're wearing your engine so quickly
Yet the manual says on the turbo normalized version you should keep full power for the entire climb, Maybe time to clarify direct with the Dev
@@A330Driver checked the climb & cruise section of the manual and it says full or wide open throttle, but not power, and that the only difference between the NA and the TN version is the mixture setting. So climb power would be full throttle with the RPMs pulled back to 2500 like the checklist says
I agree, that it does not look realistic to reduce engine condition by 15% in 2h. You would have to run it without oil, or something like that to damage it like that... There is something wrong, or exaggerated here (like in PMDG DC6, which requires engine service every 40h or so)
Milviz C310R is the best one mate ...
Why so? What makes it better?
The 310R is definitely one of the best. I feel like it’s almost a tossup between the analog Bonanza and the 310R. Each plane has its strengths. The Bonanza has better radio navigation and engine modeling. And the 310R has a better exterior model and sounds. I’m still undecided on the flight model though. The 310 can sometimes feel like a paper airplane in turbulence but the Bonanza feels almost too easy to fly. The component degradation and failures seems better simulated in the 310. My opinion could change in the future. I’ve got 500 hours in the 310 and 5 in the Bonanza. If I had to chose only one I’d go with the 310R that plane is the complete package.
This can use the 750 but will it use the TDS GTN 750? Thanks.
That is the TDS 50! Best one since it works just like the real one with the Garmin Trainer.
You can use both, TDS or PMS50. The video has been created with the TDS.
Buttplug fouling is the worst!
LOL
Nice aircraft, but the engine sound are awful, I had a hope that they would update it.
Is your sim stuttering like that all the time or just when you're recording videos? Looks horrible and would be totally unflyable for me.
A switch to AMD CPU with 3d cache would probably help a lot.
The English word for German " Donau" is "The Danube".