Defending The Dark Knight Rises | Better Than You Remember
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The Dark Knight Rises gets way too much flak. I wanted to analyze the film's themes and what it does well in this video essay.
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That was a really beautiful video.
You made me love the movie even more. Also i just wanna say that the ending of the trilogy is just brilliantly perfect.
It's an open ending and i like it that the fans can decide for themselves if Bruce died or lived a life with Selina in Italy.
I don't know if i got it correctly but i love it that Batman is not Bruce Wayne, but a Symbol. A Symbol of hope for the citizens of Gotham City.
My reaction on seeing the title of this video was, “I wasn’t aware it needed defending”.
Jon Scott right 😂😂
I said the same thing haha
Me too
i know right? i just rewatched it again and then this video pops up... such a lovely lovely movie it is
honestly, it really doesn't, the vast majority of people and critics loved it.
“How did Batman heal his back so quickly?”
Dude literally spent like 6 months in that prison. It’s not like it was two weeks and he’s out, it was half a year. In real life compression fractures (or broken vertebrae) take 8-10 weeks to heal. That’s less than 3 months max. Batman was in the prison for longer.
This is the dumbest nitpick of this movie.
The movie might have said that 6 months had went by, but in terms of film making it did not. I think that is why some people might not like that aspect
CrappyMcDick what?
CrappyMcDick what is that even supposed to mean?
@@mike3x108 Like a montage or such, i don't know i haven't watched the movie in years
CrappyMcDick well they say that a lot of time has went by in the movie, when Bruce leaves it’s probably around July or August, when he comes back it’s the dead of winter.
I’ve NEVER understood the beef with this movie. The Dark Knight Rises is a masterpiece. The Dark Knight is the GOAT. But the entire trilogy is a masterpiece.
Because it came after The Dark Knight. We only live in two times in Comic Book movie history: the time before The Dark Knight and the time after The Dark Knight.
Because some people are more easily pleased and ignore any negatives to the film.
Edit: and when comes to a video defending or criticising it, you'll more or less get an echo chamber of people backing that video so you think your point is more valid then it actually is. TH-cam in a nutshell.
@@Realest636 if it didn't come out after the dark knight it wouldn't get a lot of hate
jacksepticeye fan agreed. I’ve always said this. The one qualm I had with Dark Knight arises, was Banes power or strength. It was not within the realm of reality. An explanation, of a line or two of dialogue, about his mask, would’ve been sufficient. I always liked how Nolan grounded his Batman movies, in reality. The mask issue, should be no different.
@@Realest636 nah I liked the mask and Arnold Schwarzenegger is prolly stronger than bane at his prime
Batman Begins - The Body
The Dark Knight - The Mind
The Dark Knight Rises - The Soul
The body is rises.
Dark knight is about Gotham’s soul and Rises is obviously the body so I’m not sure how you came up with this
@@jandcstopmotion7774 TDK is about Batman's psychological battle against Joker, TDKR is Bruce reclaiming his soul from his own personal demise and Bane destroying Gotham, also having been pushed past his endurance and in fear of his life and for Gotham's.
Begins - Fear
TDK - Chaos
Rises - Pain
@@jkcrawl far more accurate
"TDKR HAS PLOT HOLES! HOW DID BRUCE COME BACK FROM LAZARUS PIT?!"
"Tony Stark figured out time travel in one afternoon? Makes perfect sense to me!"
I think Marvel is held to a different level of suspension of disbelief. A ‘realistic’ Nolan universe without aliens and magic does have to try harder with it’s plausibility
Does it really need to he explained?
It's simple.
"He's Batman."
First, I always assumed Stark had been working on the time travel thing ever since he returned from space. That is why he is so passionate about claiming it can't be done, because he has already been unable to make it work for 5 years.
Second, I don't think anyone's problem with The Dark Knight Returns has anything to do with plot holes. It has more to do with the fact that we got a depressing Batman film that has very little Batman in it. We get a lot of old broken Bruce Wayne, but not much Batman-ing going on the film. In the first film, we don't get much Batman because it's an origin story and it has to build to him becoming Batman. In The Dark Knight, he's already Batman, so we hit the ground running. Batman spends the whole film being Batman. We get our money's worth. But then in The Dark Knight Rises, he suddenly isn't Batman. He's my uncle that won't come to any family events because his hip is bothering him.
But you are correct in that there is a double standard with Marvel and DC. Maybe it's that Marvel has generated enough good will over the last decade that fans are a bit less nit-picky. I am sure if DC were able to string together 18 great films out of 22 attempts, they would get some slack as well.
Um, NO. Prof Hulk and Ant Man already laid out most of the work to Tony, and Tony just picked up the pieces so that explains that.
I can’t understand why people shit on Anne’s Catwoman. It’s the most comic accurate portrayal of Selina Kylie we’ve ever had on film.
Joshua Manuel I know right!??
Everyone's obsessed with Michelle Pfeiffer, which is iconic for sure but she's definitely not the real Selina Kyle from comics..
I thought Hathaway's Catwoman was the best thing about this film.
Because Hathaway was hammy and the character was terribly-written and the romance was dreadful.
@@tiaaaron3278 And yet still the best thing about the movie.
This movie was so underrated. I grew up with this trilogy, and this is why Christian Bale will always be my Batman
Same
The story is so dumb. Entertaining tho
@@mwm71638 It's not dumb in the least.
@@h.b.smith_writer lol
@@imperfect_dan7519 Why's that? Hmm.
The Pit in the the Dark Knight Rises is also a reflection of how little kid Bruce fell into the pit in Batman Begins and found his fear of bats.
It could also reference the Lazarus Pit, which in the comics not only heals people but can also resurrect the dead. But in The Dark Knight trilogy, it’s a metaphor for spiritual healing and resurrection
@@creativeguy1martinez693 interesting
It’s also a reference to how everyone fell into the pit in Parks and Recreation. *cues “The Pit.”
Defending? I wasn't aware that this masterpiece needed any defending.
@@zogwort1522 ?
@@zogwort1522 I don't think it would've received such massive critical acclaim if it was indeed a "badly written movie". Some fans tend to confuse bad writing with not aligning with their headcanon.
@@zogwort1522 Yeah, No. That was an extremely vocal minority who just couldn"t handle the movie diverging from their post-TDK Fan Fic. It recieved high scores across the board from actual film critics and was considered one of the best movoes of 2012.
@Will GFairly rated.
Will G lol what are you smoking ?
The Christian bale leaving the pit scene is probably the most heroic and inspiring scene in the entire history of film.
Zog Wort It’s his opinion.
Zog Wort your funny
Zog Wort grrrrrrrrrrrr
Deshi deshi bas-ara! Deshi deshi bas-ara!
@@coreytoomey7579 No no no its "Fish fish pasta pasta, fish fish pasta pasta"
Cats: My mother warned me about getting into cars with strange men.
Bats: This isn't a car.
*Still one of the best moments in the trilogy*
Tun Tun dun Tun
@@mr.s845 daaa tun tun tun..
I like how he's not denying he's a strange man haha
Im the goddamn batman I can call my godamn automobile what I godammn want.
@@turtleanton6539 It wasn't an automobile though, it was a flying vehicle known as "The Bat".
The Dark knight rises is the only superhero movie that ever made me cry. I think that says enough.
I agree
I cried when Alfred cried.
These movies are so good
The character's were good, Commissioner. Gordon is such a good character
@@adrianjames5970 For the most part, 2 of the fanbases you mentioned are beyond irredeemable. Tdk trilogy fanbase is ok, but it still has some retards in it
I cried to the Dickens poem and to me movie 3 is a better movie than movie 2 but movie 2 has Joker in it so it still wins because Heath Ledger just did the performance of a life time in just one movie. One quote stand out for me in that movie, apart from the scene where the Joker meets Batman in the cell, and that is Alfred saying " some men just want to watch the world burn" it just encapsulated the Joker perfectly
@@adrianjames5970 I believe they were referring to intolerant and toxic fans within the Dark knight fanbase. I mean, every fanbase has such people. It's nothing exclusive to TDK fanbase in particular. But I firmly believe that fanbase has the least amount of toxic people compared to Raimi and Snyder, mainly because TDK trilogy is not that unfamiliar to younger viewers and is very much appreciated by a big number of people, even if they are huge MCU fans. TDK fans mostly don't think their favourite superhero trilogy is underappreciated. I've met many MCU fans who think The Dark Knight is one of the best superhero movies of all time, maybe even THE best. I am one of those people as well.
However, the last Raimi Spiderman film came out before the MCU even started. 5 years can make a big difference with younger audiences. Maybe it doesn't even have to do anything with age, but in any case that trilogy is less appreciated than TDK trilogy. I believe most people prefer Tom Holland's MCU Spiderman. I guess that drives nostalgic Raimi fans crazy. I see many of them hate Tom Holland's Spidey with a burning fashion. Tbh, I'm not a big fan either. I think he does a great job, but Jon Watts as director doesn't really, or whoever is to blame. Anyway, this creates conflict between Raimi and MCU fans.
However, I believe that conflict is nowhere near as strong as that between Snyder and MCU fans. At least with Raimi and MCU fans it's still all Marvel. Snyder fans are DC fans, and we all know about Marvel and DC's long (and stupid) competition. Snyder fans aren't driven by nostalgia like Raimi fans, nor only contrasted with MCU fans regarding one single character (Spiderman). They are driven by jealousy and non-conformity (which is a good thing taken on its own terms) compared to MCU which is more popular and successful than DCEU, and it's not just about one character as I said, but about the entire vision and style of films. I often hear Snyder fans saying that MCU fans are dumb.
Finally someone defends this movie. For years I've loved it and see it as a great batman film and part of the trilogy.
Completely agree btw I love the game that you have in your picture :)
I have zero problems with this movie. I think it’s great. It ends the trilogy and its a GREAT ending I will fight anyone about it. Also Bane is a Top 5 villain for me
I am the batman The movie was 3 hours of boredom. Nolan's protagonist in a bat suit was never more not Batman then he was in this movie. Bane was Talia's henchman and little else. And just like Endgame did to the MCU, this movie basically torpedoed the movies that led up to it. What was Ras Al Ghul's goal in the first movie? To wipe Gotham off the map Batman may as well have let him.
wawuglio lmao and BvS was 3 hours of too much action and gore. Why do you hate dialogue so much.
Jacko Jew Jr R I didn't even watch BvS because I knew Superman wasn't in it. Some guy who let his dad die was doing his bizarre impersonation of Superman. I don't hate dialogue. Ihate the mangling of established characters.
I’m going to say it I cried like whenever Alfred cried
Where children cried: toy story 3
Where men cried:
Yeah Caine stole some scenes in the trilogy…Without Alfred Batman would be lost..
I am a huge fan of the simple fact that Nolan found a place for a flashback towards Gordon and young Bruce in the climax. It was so rewarding. Without that coat on Bruce's shoulders in that police station, Bruce might have never learned to care for others. "Now we are two".
I just straight up loved this movie. You can’t top a classic but you can respond with a great epic
Exactly, that’s how I feel as well
Very true
Now, THIS is the kind of content that keeps me going.
Aye key issues is here. Whatsup man
@@messengermal5298 Enjoying this video, wbu?
@@KeyIssues same man same. Glad this video was made as dkr was personally my fav of the trilogy slightly above dark knight.
@@messengermal5298 it's my personal fav
Love your videos
Chad
C : catwoman
H : has
A : and
D : definitely will allways be the greatest film ever made
These Catwoman jokes couldn't be any less unfunny
YT Channel you must be fun at parties
thank god im not the only one who thinks that...
@@ryanb1374 Come up with some funnier jokes loser, ha ha so funny its funny because Catwoman was horrible...wow what a clever joke...😒
@@YTChannel420 "Haha I can't take jokes cuz it isn't from me so I'm just gonna roast it even tho idc about it"
Hasn't left his house in 8 years? Sounds familiar.
Underrated comment
pain.
Lol
Facts lol
@@buklau6953 why “pain” what? I don’t get it?
"How did Batman's back heal so quickly?"
This critique has always pissed me off.
People always say that Bane broke Batman's back. The thing is he technically didn't. He simply dislocated a vertabrae from his spine. No bones were broken or even fractured.
It's very similar to a dislocated arm. Once it's dislocated, you can no longer use it. But all you have to do to fix it is to put it back. After you do, it heals extremely fast.
For a dislocated vertabrae, all you need to do is to put it back and then it'll be better in few days since the back is more serious. Of course, it's painful as hell.
Remember that Bruce stayed in the pit for several months.
But the important thing is that no bones were broken or fractured, only dislocated.
So saying Bane is "the man who broke the bat" is technically wrong. It should be "the man who dislocated the bat."
But break sounds better so keep it that way.
Then how about he returned to Gotham from the middle of nowhere without cash, without contact, without alerting Bane's troops who weren't mere street thugs or anyone, in mere days at most???
@@user-iy7jo7bq4f first of all, Bruce travelled around the world for about 7 years BEFORE he even became Batman right? Even THEN, he didn't have cash, contact, or anything. Remember, he was hiding the fact that he was Bruce Wayne. So now, I'm guessing that he already knew a lot about how to travel around the world. Maybe he even made a contact that could get him home. He had a little over three weeks to get back to Gotham. Gotham is near the ocean and a boat trip from Gotham to his location from the pit only takes 2 weeks. Plus, when he escaped from the pit, there was a city, so he didn't have to go far to get to civilization. So three weeks plus his previous experience in traveling without anything satisfies me enough to explain how he got back. Tbh, I'm glad they didn't show that, that would have been boring.
As for Bane's troops, none of Bane's troops were there. The prison was unguarded because it was deemed impossible to escape so no one would have told Bane. Plus, he's Batman, I'm pretty sure he knows how to stay hidden and not alert anyone.
@@mlgamings6110
You do remember that in the first movie, his journey messed him up really really bad, right???
He wasn't in control of anything; in fact, he almost got himself killed, so that's not a good example.
@@user-iy7jo7bq4f uh, what? What does that have anything to do with explaining how he got home? That's not an example, that's the explanation. It was then, he learned how to travel around the world with no money or contacts. What does that have to do with him messing himself up? Yeah, maybe he wasn't in control, but that doesn't stop him from learning. Besides, if he wasn't in control, how could he have travelled around the world in the first movie?
@@mlgamings6110
Your example is your explanation...
First, go watch Batman Begins. He was starving, forced to steal, got arrested by local officials, had no idea if he could've been released or not. He was totally messed up until Ras bailed him out.
And by your logic, Spiderman has fought with Galactus and lived; could he say he had experience in fighting cosmic gods as if it was some accomplishment??? That experience doesn't matter because it was a complete failure.
Bruce's last and the only other experience in travel alone went out of control, so I don't know how this example makes a good explanation.
And I meant Bane's troop positioned at Gotham and the US military...
Remember when films were just made to portray a director's vision rather than set up a universe?
The Blue Gangsta the next generation won’t
@@lennypolcaro Sadly
Films are still like that now. If we're not talking about comic book films and actual films then yeah
@@imperfect_dan7519
Actual films, no
Comic-Book films, yes
You can still have movies set in a shared universe but each have their own unique vision and tone. For example, each phase 1 movie of the mcu are very different from each other with little nods or subtle hints at the greater universe. Iron man 1 was a techno thriller, incredible hulk was a sci fi, Frankenstein monster movie, thor was a low fantasy film, Capt America the first Avenger is a pulp fiction, ww2 historical film and the Avengers is the ultimate crossover with superhero, alien invasion and techno genres blended in. Each movie has a vision and asthetic of their own that makes them stand out. So it is possible to have a movie made with a unique vision that is set in a shared universe
You forgot to include the most beautiful, symbolic (and also) last shot of the movie: Robin finding the batcave and being lifted up by that platform. He, as the new Dark Knight, is rising.
And so The Dark Knight Rises.
@@zogwort1522 My god you were/are so desperate to shit all of this film. It's just a little bit of symbolism.
Zog Wort LMFAO SHUT THE FUCK UP. you desperate fuck, holy fuck
@@zogwort1522 You've got issues
@@zogwort1522 Difference is symbolism has meaning and depth. Your comment did not. There's thought provoking symbolism and then there's dumb
@@zogwort1522 Maybe you should then get yourself out of yours and actually take the time to digest what people are saying about the film first. You don't have to agree, but you shouldn't go round looking for an argument either.
Because doing that doesn't make anyone want to respect your views
I’ll never forget the bass booming roar of the Batman theme in theaters when Bruce finally escapes the pit. So powerful
This is honestly my favourite of the trilogy.
The dark knight rises is only "bad" because the dark knight was perfect.
The Dark Shit Rises is bad because it's bad.
@@tiaaaron3278 Shut up. Rises is a masterpiece
To clarify, im not saying Rises is perfect by any stretch. But its not bad imo, its deficiencies stands out so much just because the first 2 are so great specially Dark Knight.
Hell no, TDKR>TDK
@@zogwort1522 nop, tdk is better only in acting, tdkr is better in action & music & plot & effects, so tdkr>tdk easily
I remember seeing this movie on opening night. By the end of the movie everyone cheered and clapped.
Same I saw this with my dad it was amazing
Yeah tbh I don't know anybody who dislikes the movie. My mom who doesn't care about superheroes and never saw the first two films "really liked it." I've heard lots of people vaguely refer to negative internet discourse and there used to be a pretty loud minority of Nolan-haters (not to be confused with people that liked TDK but not TDKR), but the whole thing seems blown out of proportion.
Does TDKR have some silly plot holes? A couple. Do the overwhelming majority of people care? Nah.
@@BlueisNotaWarmColourI think there's the plot holes, but I also think there's the fact that as good as it is, it's not as good as TDK, and if there's a movie that's not as good as the predecessor, then it sucks. I've never held that mentality myself, if a movie is enjoyable, then I'm good.
"One man or the entire mob. He can wait"
Ultimately this movie also deals with the depression of a very imperfect man. Batman's desperation for a normal relationship with Rachel Dawes and a quick end to the mob made him not take the Joker seriously at the beginning of TDK. He also fails to fight for the greater good when he is given the choice to either save Rachel or Dent. Probably realizing that the Joker proved in that instant that he cared more about himself. The orphans of Gotham and the whole city suffer in TDKR as a result of his lie to cover up the truth and his spiral into apathy and despair. Then his realization that Rachel did not choose him makes him commit another mistake of revealing the location of the nuclear reactor to Miranda for whom he clings in desperation.
A movie about a man looking for a second chance at life and finding it. Making epic mistakes but also making the ultimate sacrifice in the end and even giving a great part of his fortune away like Andrew Carnegie (contrasted in some way with Howard Hughes) That is why it is the best in the trilogy.
To be fair he went to Miranda because she'd been with Wayne Enterprises for years and at the time was a trustworthy businesswoman. Otherwise I agree! It's my favorite in the Trilogy as well. 👍
@@h.b.smith_writer The revelation that Rachel chose Dent over him contributed to him developing romantic towards Miranda though. She even uses it to seduce/manipulate him when she holds up Rachel’s picture right before they sleep together.
The Dark Knight Rises is so underrated
I miss movies being just about their characters. Remember how the spider-man and Dark Knight trilogy were just about Batman and Spider-Man? I miss those days. Nowadays everything has to fit into a shared universe and be part of something bigger smh
Stuff like Aquaman, Shazam, and the new Batman seem to be a step in the right direction.
Malik Crim I agree, those movies and more coming up could stand on their own, and be their own movies, unlike far from home...
Let's not act like you're pointing at Marvel, some of you DK fans are kinda toxic.....pathetic
Scj Johnson You’re being hypocritical by calling them pathetic, in turn being “toxic” yourself.
AGREED!!!!!
"Victory has defeated you, Mr.Wayne."
"Why didn't you just kill me?" "You do not fear death. Your punishment must be more severe."
"I was born in the darkness..."
"There's a storm coming, Mr.Wayne."
"You see only one end to your journey."
"There's nothing out there for me."
"I won't bury you. I've buried enough members of the Wayne family."
"Then make the climb. Without the rope, as the child did."
"What does that mean?" "RISE"
"You've given these people everything." "Not everything...not yet."
Do I really need to go on?
Ah yes, badass quotes the only true metric to measure the quality of a movie by
"You do not fear death . You think it makes you strong ? It makes you weak ."
"That's a stock exchange, there's no money you can steal" "Then why are you here?"
All are awesome quotes.
One of my favorites- "Like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst."
@@lennyjay8390 nope, but all these lines are great from a thematic point of view
The Dark Knight rises means a lot to me , everytime i watch it. It mesmerizes me on how scary and relentless Bane is with just his presence on screen. There is no superhero film which can even get close to the magnitude of craft and perfection the trilogy has offered to the world, well most marvel fans do not agree with this, we don't need their validation cuz they are busy with films which are 70 % made with CGI.
85 to 90 percent cg buddy
It's apples and oranges. I loved a few of the Marvel movies (mainly the Russo brothers' films). That said, The Dark Knight is still better than any of them. Spider-Man 2 as well.
I love his arc in the Pit.
(Also never realized it was a literal interpretation of the Lazarus Pit.)
Not literal. It doesn't literally rejuvenate him, but it metaphorically does.
@@aidenpierce2482 Literal in terms of location (an actual pit), metaphorical in therms of function (rejuvenation)
The Dark Knight trilogy is like the original Spider-Man trilogy in that the first one is pretty good, the second one is perfect, and the third one gets too much hate. (Although I thought the Dark Knight Rises was a lot better than Spider-Man 3)
I'm a Marvel fan and I'll admit that Spider-Man 3 and the rebooted Amazing Spider-Man series were absolute garbage. I liked the original Spider-Man movie and especially Spider-Man 2 though as I'm a huge Doc Ock fan. They still haven't given me the Hobgoblin yet though, but he was pretty much just an orange green goblin who threw pumpkin bombs, so I can let that pass :D
@@beanshady so are Spider-Man Homecoming and Far From Home, both are garbage as well. They spit on all that made Spider-Man Spider-Man.
@Cyberdemon Mike Topher Grace as Eddie Brock... I rest my case
@@jaylee8240 I thought Homecoming was okay, but agree it doesn't hold up to Spider-Man 1 and 2. Haven't seen Homecoming yet... plan to soon and I'm not expecting much.
Decent Catastrophe this movie doesn’t rlly get hate though it’s got almost 90% on rotten tomorrow
The Dark Knight & Dark Knight Rises are cinematic masterpieces.
Annnnnnd batman begins
@@imperfect_dan7519 Agreed, I just didn't refer to it because the other two films were discussed more in this video.
@@Ascend_NCOW The Dark Shit Rises
@@tiaaaron3278 lmao
Not really. They can't both be masterpieces. The Dark Knight is superior. DKR is a decent movie.
The Dark Knight Rises is and has always been a masterpiece.
I didn’t even know it ever received flak...
There’s no need to defend it...it’s already a masterpiece
Agreed
Nah
@@easytab2327 YES! No “nah”, please no negativity here at all with that nonsense.
This movie is incredible and a fantastic movie. Love the dark knight trilogy!
@@Gadget-Walkmen nah
@@easytab2327 nah
This movie is great.
It’s well filmed.
Bruce has a rlly powerful arc.
The themes are very present.
Blake, Gordon and catwoman have great character arcs as well.
The structure is great.
Everyone suffers consequences to there actions.
The sounds are fantastic and is composed rlly well.
The performances are fantastic.
The action and spectacle is well directed this time.
It barley has any exposition scenes.
The dialogue is fantastic.
The imagery is very powerful.
The ending is perfect.
It acts well as a sequel as it Carry’s on the threads of previous films.
Zog Wort that makes no sense though cuz everything u said are just lies? Like I get the point u r trying to make but this film actually is well made? Suicide squad doesn't have excellent structure I think they just edited it in the blender. Something can only be central if a story is built around it and builds the characters arcs around it. Being a bad guy isn't a theme. No one in that movie suffers the consequences of there actions and I couldn't tell u the arcs of any of the characters but it DKR I could tell u all of them.
I love it when people are so desperate to defend a disaster of a film, that they resort to "there are themes".
I agree. Forget the haters.
@@zogwort1522 you are imbecile
@@paragonpoints8420 I love how people hate this movie without saying absolutely nothing to defend their point of view. You are just nitpicking the plot holes, and you know... Plot holes arent everything
"How can you run faster than possible, fight longer than possible, without the greatest driving force of our mind? The fear of death."
I love TDKR Tom Hardy was phenomenal as was everyone else.
Tom Hardy did pretty damn good, considering how his predecessor, Heath Ledger’s joker, was a role that was unmatched.
Tom would have been perfect, adding Talia made him a simp.
Everyone: TDKR is mediocre.
Me: *FOR YOU.*
Tom Hardy intensifies
@Geralt of Trivia it would be extremely painful.
You're a big guy
Haters: The movie is shit
Me: THEN THERE WILL BE NO SURVIVORS!!!!
“So what’s the next step in your master plan?”
“Rewriting the fan bases’ opinions. WITH NO SURVIVORS”
*Better than you remember.*
Well I remember it being pretty f'n awesome and almost on par with TDK! The ending was perfect!!
I watched it in theaters and it was so damn awesome!!
Elena Sos I’m jealous, I unfortunately couldn’t watch any of the trilogy in theaters because I was too young, and it sucks because they are some of my favorite movies of all time
But how bat man escaped himself from atom bomb?
BISWAJEET SAHOO It's explained after the explosion that the auto pilot on "the Bat" had been fixed by Bruce Wayne.(Six months prior) So it's assumed that Batman stops controlling "the Bat" vehicle, after he shoots a portion of the building and sets the auto pilot to take it out over the bay. When they show the last shot of Batman prior to the explosion, he has already ejected from the vehicle into a safety pod of some sort.(Kind of similar to how a fighter jet pilot might eject into a smaller pod if the jet had been shot down or at risk of crashing.)
Zog Wort He didn't teleport back to Gotham. You clearly see a city or village off in the distance after he crawls out of the pit. He could've easily walked to that village/city, got in contact with someone he knew(Probably Lucious Fox) and got him to send a plane to take him near the outskirts of Gotham. Once near Gotham, he could've easily snuck his way into Wayne Manor or a secret hideout(where he was keeping his "Bat" flying vehicle) and then begin setting his plan in motion. He is Batman after all...he should be pretty fuckin' good at sneaking around without being detected. Banes army were only controlling a portion of the city after all...so there would be no reason for Bruce to *not* have access to some of the things he needed to fight back.
Love your content. The dark knight rises showcases how to send a hero off in peace, and leave behind trauma in the past. Like you said, Batman is a symbol, Bruce Wayne just embodies it so he could still learn to value his own life and finally live it. It’s beautiful.
I honestly love TDKR, I don't know why people have all their problems with it. I always like to just tell them, "It's cause he's the goddamn Batman".
I've always thought that Bruce and Alfred's relationship in this film gave us some of the most compelling scenes in Batman history. Thank you for bringing more positive light to this movie :-)
But it's not consistent with TDK. Alfred cries and begs Bruce not to go back out there. I shouted in the theater, "What was all that endure stuff from TDK?" And what's the point of having a scene in which Alfred cries at the grave... But then sees Bruce and knows that he's alive?
Alfred in Batman Begins: I will never give up on you Master Wayne.
Alfred in The Dark Shit Rises: *leaves Bruce alone in financial crisis and low spirit*
This is character butchery.
@@bryanlagalo You just don't understand the film.
@@tiaaaron3278 That's character growth.
@@tiaaaron3278 You don't understand masterpieces
I honestly go backs and forth between this and dark knight as my favorite of the trilogy. I think bane is a perfectly executed villain, I just wish they kept him as the main bad guy.
But really I love this film and catwomen was a good addition
I agree and it's really hard for me to say which one is better. They are both outstanding and are worthy of many watches. But I actually liked the twist with Bane not being the main bad guy in the end as it showed just how committed he was to finishing Raza Ghul's mission, even at the expense of his own life.
he was the main guy right?
@@Jdudec367 He was working for Talia, the daughter of Rass al ghul
@@ricardo_sotorbs wasn't he working "with" her?
@@donaldbonds5233 yeah not the same as working "for"
"Because he's the GODDAMN BATMAN!" One of the best videos and explorations on TH-cam man. TDKR is one of my all time favorite movies and I don't care what anyone says, is a masterpiece. Thank you for expressing everything I've been saying for years and reminding me why it is one of my all time greatest films to this day. You made me remember the feeling I had when I left the theater and why I love this movie so much. It does inspire and touches my soul to the core of the true meaning of what Batman is. It ignites the passion and love for what makes the Bat all that he is and I thank you for reviving that again. Incredible and inspiring yourself. Bless you. And Bless The Dark Knight Rises. 🦇
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People expected another dark Knight, when rises was its own film and atmosphere
The dark knight rises is my favorite of the trilogy and it saddens me to see people bash it. Thanks for this video!
It's tough for me to say which one was better (DK or DKR), but I see your point. People bashing DKR are just stupid. DKR had a lot to go up against following DK, and I feel Nolan hit it out of the park.
@@beanshady It's not a bad movie just a movie that lived up to way too many expectations.I wish Nolan would had stopped with Dark Knight.
Honestly I thought I was the only who favored the dark knight rises over Dark Knight.
Literally no-one bashes it my man.
@@zoisantonopoulos7999 I think Reddit would change your mind 😂
Thank you. Jesus I’m tired of people hating on this movie.
Zog Wort
Meh.
Zog Wort It’s a super hero movie if your comparing this to the dark knight you’re an imbecile. They’re two different styles and this is pretty damn good for a superhero movie.
@@zogwort1522 For typing so much, you said a whole lot of nothing. At best, some of the physical acting is bad throughout TDKR, and that's about it, are some lines, "meh," sure but you do blow it way out of proportion.
Never in my life have I ever heard someone say they dislike this movie, everyone I know says it's either as good as the dark knight, or even better
You really love to exaggerate. Some of the dialogue may come off as awkward, but the agent is mocking Bane with the line you were referring to. The CIA wasn't incompetent, it was just that Bane had them set up and thrived on the fact that they couldn't just kill him because he was a wanted terrorist. The agents didn't know that the man who handed Bane and his men over was working for them anyways.
I always thought the Dark Knight Rises never got the credit it truly deserves. Sometimes we let ourselves down by our own imposed expectations.
The Dark Knight Rises not the film we deserved, but the film we needed.
When I was watched The Dark Knight Rises, I was in awe! Definitely a fantastic film & deserves a lot more credit then it gets. It's themes are perfect for a conclusion for a triology.
@@zogwort1522 just watch the film again and stop trying to look for the tiniest inconsistencies of the plot and just enjoy the goddam thing for what it is.
It’s my favorite of the trilogy, just watching that epic ending with Alfred and Bruce looking to each other gives me goosebumps every time. Love this film.
I actually thought this movie didn’t need any defending it is great
Defending this masterpiece?
Come on.... Who are those people?
The only thing I ever did wonder, how does Bane eat with the mask on?
Through a straw.
@@TedShatner10 Juice may be. But how does he eat solid foods. Rice, bread, meat??
Mehedi Hasan Guess he juices everything
Mehedi Hasan Piyas maybe he can take it off when eating cuz when barman damaged his mask he was still able to continue fighting
With an intravenous tube.
Finally people are starting to come back to their senses. This movie is one of the best movies ever.
Exactly
The best part imo is that it links to both of the previous films.
for sure it's my second favorite film of all time just under the dark knight
@@julianbarriento516 Under the dark Knight? It's far better than dark knight
@@zogwort1522 Lol you are really desperate... commenting on every thread you can find.. Why don't you tell us what is your idea of a good coherent superhero film?
Omg finally someone defends this piece of art
This Triology no matter what anybody says is the best superhero movies of all time and the TDK Rises has that emotional ending in the history of superhero genre that feels so satisfying and also bruce finally can live his life in peace which he deserves....nonetheless "He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight."
I didn't realise people even bashed this film at all 😂 How could they? It's amazing.
Climb out from under that rock a bit more often.
West McGee didn’t ask.
Sir GZ you literally did ask.
West McGee go on, keep talking.
because it's a boring piece of shit
Someone needed to do this. This movie gets so unnecessary hate just because it had to follow the dark knight. Not rly fair.
Evan Lindahl agreed
Quite possibly one of the greatest movie trilogies in history and that’s not even an exaggeration
This movie or I mean MASTERPIECE doesn't need defending, we all know it's amazing, not as good as TDK but a little better than Batman Begins (which is still GREAT)
Don't shit on the grandpa like that, after all, without a grandpa there are no children
@@rafaelsalzmann4075 huh?
@@saculmoviereviews9200 Batman Begings is TDKR's grandpa ya know
@@sadiq3.0 Batman Begins is still a 10/10
I much prefer Batman Begins to TDKR but ok
I think what the dark knight trilogy does so well is that each one truly challenges Batman in every way, and his actions have lasting consequences. Every moment has so much weight to it, everything actually matters. They present the characters in such a complex light, Bruce especially.
been rewatching the whole series lately and SHIT is it good
The Dark Knight Rises is great I couldn't believe it when I heard people say it sucked just because of some plot holes. They act like The Dark Knight has no plot holes, it does.
The Dark Knight has plot holes? Name one.
It was honestly never about the plot holes.
@@spencermalley10 Then why did you say it has plot holes?
@@phillip2862 They don't really know what those words actually mean when using them in reference to this movie
@@spencermalley10 actually I do know what a plot hole is and I've read people's opinions on TDKR and they always complain about plot holes.
The film doesn't need defending. Its not a flawless masterpiece but its an excellent movie. Its on par with Batman Begins and has some strengths that even TDK doesn't have. There is some awkwardly filmed action and some editing mistakes but other than that, its damn entertaining with terrific performances.
True it was a delight seeing the 3 movies... Even though I didn't find any problems with the Dark Knight Rises
This movie doesn't need defending bro, it's awesome
I legitimately remember Dark Knight Rises being the best of the three in my opinion.
Zog Wort I saw this movie again a week after this video and it still holds up as the best
Batman Begins: 9.75/10
The Dark Knight: 10/10
The Dark Knight Rises: 9.25/10
Batman begins- 8/10
Dark knight -9.2/10
Rises - 10/10
Batman Begins: 8.0/10
The Dark Knight: 8.8/10
The Dark Knight Rises: 7.7/10
@@miguelvidal2335 No just no
Batman Begins 10/10
The Dark Knight 10000/10
The Dark Knight Rises 10/10
The whole trilogy is a masterpice but The Dark Knight is something incomparable
@@messicampeon1016 - Agreed.
The Dark Knight Rises' greatest strength, I believe, is it's moral message: lies are wrong, even noble lies. A great debunk of The Dark Knight's Central thesis.
It's such an interesting contrast to the second film, and in the end the truth prevails and leads towards a better future.
@@h.b.smith_writer But then Batman again lies, in kind of a bigger way, at the end of the movie ...
This made me want to watch the whole trilogy again lol
The Dark Knight Trilogy > MCU + DCEU
I'v seen this comment 200 times in my life. The mcu is not a bad franchise its got some of the best superhero movies of all time. Winter solider iron man thor Ragnarok spider man far from home. Endgame infinity war age of ultron guardians of the galaxy 1 & 2
Sky's the Limits no one said it’s bad it’s just that the TDK trilogy is better
If anything I'd compare the Dark Knight Trilogy to the Original Star Wars Trilogy.
Youl get your rent when you fix this damned door ! I disagree
I think
MCU> The Dark Knight trilogy> Xmen past trilogy and DCEU
Hunter Smith from a pop culture stand point & just being fair.. Infinity war & Endgame alone should be compared to OG Star Wars, because they have the same cadence of a generational cultural event. That being said, the Raimi trilogy & TDK Trilogy are revolutionary & pushed the Superhero movie genre to a higher standard/level, influenced cinema & changed things forever! The MCU would not be what it is without those movies.
I’ve only heard this is a “bad” or mediocre movie via internet comments, at the time it came out most reviewers liked it and anecdotally I’ve never encountered someone in real life who didn’t like it.
Michael Caine as Alfred in this movie is AMAZING
Never in my life have I seen or even heard someone say bad things about this movie, it actually shocks me, seeing for the first time, that some people dislike this movie. Ever since the movie came out, everyone I know says it's either as good as the dark knight, or even better. This film is a master piece, people who dislike the movie don't change this fact, whether it's your cup of tea or not (which I mean who's cup of tea isn't it?) this trilogy is literally perfect. PERFECT
You’re absolutely right. Rises is universally loved it just has a loud minority
Agreed.
I watched the Dark Knight Rises first for some reason, so when I watched it I thought it was the best thing ever other than Spider-Man 2. Then I watched TDK and I loved it more, but Rises always holds a special spot in my heart.
TDKR is the one out of the trilogy that I’ve watched the most, The Dark Knight is my favourite out the three, but I don’t go back to it as much as I do Rises. Can’t explain why.
As said in the video TDK was more of a crime drama, while TDKR actually felt like a super hero movie. The way they pull the story back to League of Shadows and connected the whole trilogy was truly beautiful, and definitely you aren't the one who feels the same way.
The ending to TDKR was just satisfying in a way that I can't explain. From start to finish it was amazing. Every movie in this trilogy has flaws but their quality ultimately outweighs any complaints or negative reviews towards the films.
It’s because TDKR is more emotionally satisfying. It’s a powerful epic that shows Bruce being reborn and finding the strength within himself to be Batman again. The other 2 films, as good as they are, don’t provide the same emotional story
@@alfredgarcia6844 TDK is more thrilling movie than both 2 movies... but Rises more emotional ! TDK is the best film because it has the best villain, it has more tention, more suspense, more drama, better pace ect
@@MrMrjack18 Exactly
*Ngl* I like the Dark Knight But I prefer The Dark Knight Rises - the only thing I hate is how Bane became a Henchmen at the end but 🤷🏽♂️
I actually liked the twist and thought it showed just how committed Bane was to finish Raza Ghul's efforts. There's nothing like a villain who isn't driven by power or money. It's also what made Raza and Joker so captivating.
@Jacob Kay Agree. Wish they would have written a more fitting death for such a great character.
@Jacob Kay Who cares about how he died? I mean it just happens in like 2 seconds dude. You mean to say you hate the character because of he died in like 2 seconds?
Would you call Darth Vader just a henchman because of the Emperor?
And his death could have been epic. . Maybe even captured by batman after a hard hitting fight
"I see a beautiful city and brilliant people rising from this abyss. I see the lives of which I lay down my life, peaceful, useful, prosperous and happy. I see that I hold a sanctuary in their hearts, and in the hearts of their descendants, generations hence. It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known. "
Most beautiful tribute (in the movie itself) to the hero we needed, but did not deserve... Nolan's Batman!
I actually get chills reading this speech because I hear that beautiful soundtrack.
From 'A Tale of Two Cities'
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way.
Never understood the hate for this movie. The internet spawned a whole generation of keyboard critics who just imitate Mr Plinkett lol
Yeeeh
Exactly. Most of their criticisms were unfounded (aside from a few conveniences here and there). It's a terrific and worthy conclusion, one of the best of the 2010s as well. I'm glad that there are others who hate nitpick culture as much as I do.
For a lot of people it is given having love the predecessor, disliking parts of Bane or at least his twist, finding too much of the story too unbelievable.
I think a lot of the story and especially Bane doesn't make sense.
It's awesome for this movie to receive praise because it deserves that. This is one of the greatest Batman movies along with the rest of the trilogy. Dark Knight Rises so perfectly captured the psycological elements of the character Batman and brought new things to the table. I will always support this movie and see it as one of the best superhero movies or just movies in general.
he'll yeah
A lot of the portrayal of Batman didn't make sense.
The Dark Knight Rises is only bad by Nolan's standards, but nonetheless it's a great film.
Absolutely agree, even bad Nolan is a good movie haha
I showed Batman Begins and TDK to my mom and she really loved them, but I kept TDKR a secret.
Okay it isn't really Nolans worst
Dunkirk, Interstellar, The Prestige, Memento, Inception, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and even Insomnia are all objectively better crafted films and aren't retreads of anything else.
I haven't seen Following, so I can't say Rises is worse... but it's possible.
I’m sorry but if my worst film was The Dark Knight Rises, I wouldn’t sweat it as that means I’m a great filmmaker
"Not everything. Not yet." This line captures the entire essence of The Batman and why we admire him so much
Storytellers has started a 3 part video essay on The Dark Knight Triology and I can see a new video essay about these films in youtube atleast once in every two months . People are keep on talking about these movies even after its 7 seven years since the last movie of the series released . I believe movie lovers can't stop talking about these wonderful movies till the end of the time .
The Dark Knight Rises is my favorite superhero movie of all time.
It's my favorite movie of all time.
@Ethan big scale > small scale, tdkr>tdk
LegendaryGamer Mines too...
It's mine too!
It is one of my favorites, it's definitely a masterpiece i do prefer the dark knight, batman begins, infinity war, endgame, civil war, winter soldier but that's just my opinion please don't get at me lol everyone gets so triggered whenever i say i prefer endgame to any nolan batman movie
I think you've convinced me to give this one a rewatch.
Update: Rewatched it. Still my least favorite of the three due to the broader message and theme being a lot messier than the previous two (Wisecrack explained it better than I ever could) and Bane's character being messed with towards the end of the movie, but besides that, it's a really great, effective movie. Love all the stuff going on with Batman, Catwoman, Alfred, Gordon, and Detective Blake, and I thought the ending was very satisfying. 9/10 for me.
I’ve been saying since 2012 that if this came out before The Dark Knight it would be remember better.
Tdkr is literally a plot straight out of a comic book. Its so good
That the plot is from a comic book doesn't make it good, not all comic books are good and even the plots that are don't necessarily work later and/or in different format.
I like trilogy as a whole. My nitpick is the fighting was too slow, the end fight against Bane should have been more climatic as it seemed so rehearsed.
I don't know about Batman, but I do know that BROWNTABLE makes great content for his CHADS
I have always loved this movie and honestly didnt know why people dont like it
I recently rewatched The Dark Knight Trilogy.
And thank God I did, because only now did I fully absorbed how much of a phenomenal franchise this was.
I loved this movie, perfect ending to the trilogy and bane made an awesome villain!
Bane is lame.
@Nick Nick Let's talk about that shitty twist that essentially made him a bitch. And that terrible death.
@@tiaaaron3278 You don't understand Bane's character
Finally a video praising TDKR! I personally loved where it took the characters and all the things it added to the trilogy.
“It's the difference between an Ant-Man 2 and a Spider-Man 2” LOL love that.
I always felt the "beef" and criticisms to this movie were manufactured and unfair and frankly just an attack on Christopher Nolan himself.
Browntable: *uploads a video*
Me: *flash theme intensifies*
Declan Corey Run Barry run
@@rorcknar The Flash is an awesome show! No, wait: the whole Arrowverse is awesome!
The dark night rises is my fav movie on the trilogy
have I been in a coma for 7 years? I seemed to have missed all the criticisms of this masterpiece of a film.