The NEW Seiko 62 MAS is AWESOME
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- The is the new Seiko diver re reimagined!!! 4 years after the the release of the first reissue in the SPB143. Now 59 years since the 62 MAS first diver from Seiko, is this SPB451 the new standard for every new Seiko dive watch to come out in the future? New movement, sleeker, smoother and refined, could this be the best Seiko release of 2024?
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Seiko is truly one of the only brands that actually listen to what their customers are saying. Smaller, thinner, longer power reserve and smaller clasps. You got it! Seiko prices out of control you say? Well how about zero price increases from 4 years ago. I’d like to see the Swiss try to do that. The Swiss doesn’t seem to care about what people are asking for and they keep raising prices with no added value to the product. Seiko is indeed one step ahead!
Idk, when talking about the $1000 price range their are other brands offering better movements and the same quality fit and finish, i love seiko but I’m starting to discover at $1000 and up their are better brands out there
@@shtzweakI can definitely see others may be better brands but I also feel anything over $1000 becomes more for the hard core Seiko collectors. What something is worth depends on how much you love it. It takes a special customer to play in that price range.
The 62mas and the Willard are two of the best dive watch designs ever IMO. And I don’t usually complain about specs but that clasp at this price…. Come on Seiko. Thanks for the great review as always!
Haha your wife nailed it. Doesn’t do a lot to me, but I appreciate your enthusiasm.
😂 ‘she loved it didn’t she?’
This color would definitely be my pick . Love the looks of this Seiko blue diver 👍🏻
Great review, as usual. Your wife’s comments are always the best part of your videos!
What make is even funnier is that he doesn’t even have a wife.
/s
@@hb1949 Why should we disbelieve him? Show some trust, dude.
Interesting timing of this video, I literally just unboxed the San Martin SN007-G-X which I got to wear on holidays where I don't want to wear a Rolex, Tudor, etc to some sketchy locations (specifically Barcelona this time around).
It's basically a direct copy/homage to the original 62mas in a 37mm case and I have to say I'm pretty impressed with how it feels for a 300 bucks watch.
Should serve me well on the trip and hopefully not attract any unwanted attention...it's still very shiny, so I hope the thieves eyes see good enough to understand that it's not a very valuable watch lol...
Seikos pricing is ridiculous lately.
$1,200 and the end link cant even fit right. Seikos is just banking on their hardcore fans.
Agreed, though it is pretty easy to get a discount on them at least.
It would certainly appear so but out of curiosity I did some digging and looked up the original pricing of the 62mas-010 and it was roughly $85ish dollars in 1965. With inflation that's about $830ish dollars in 2024. With a superior movement, sapphire crystal , AR coating, metal bracelet, and improved depth rating, the improvements and cost of materials comes much closer to the price that they are asking. This is MSRP and not the gray market most people take advantage of when getting their Seiko fix anyway so the pricing difference becomes even closer to the original. My AD is usually fairly generous with discounts on Seiko so there is also that to consider. One can purchase this new for $950-$1000 with the same minimal effort I put in when searching for this model online.
This always comes up with some people and ignores reality. They always complain when newer releases cost more, and ignore all the upgrades. Movement upgrades, bracelet upgrades, case upgrades, and you expect them not to raise price for those upgrades? You expect them to do all that research and development and machine retooling, and not have that reflected in the costs? It's just not rational.
Exactly. MSRP adjusted for inflation is in range. Not deflated grey market pricing
The yen has dropped 25pc of late . It was about 80yen to a US dlr
I have the SPB453, lovely little watch. Held -2 seconds a day for the first few weeks. Acting a spot sluggish since yesterday, not sure if it's my wearing habits.
What happened to the World Bezeling Federation and Mr Pagani's house of design?
I think they both should be revived. Maybe they were on a watch lovers cruise or sabbatical? Love those characters Russ!
I got the 455 special edition with a nice discount at a watch event and I love it. It is beautiful, well made, plenty accurate, and all the rest of the things Seiko is good at. I like the date window. You hardly notice it until you need to know the date. I own more than one watch, so as long as it is reasonably accurate, I'm going to set the watch every time I put it on anyway. It is much better than reasonably accurate! Did I mention it was beautiful? 😀
That blue is so good! What a great looking Seiko STUN-AAAHHH!
Another tip top show MWC!
Love wearing my brown dial Spb149 on a z199 uncle bracelet. It really elevates it. It feels quality
Me: I love my white Slim Turtle, it’s time to shut it down for a bit and save for something upmarket.
Also me: I think it is time to buy a new Seiko Diver.
I wanted an SPB143 a while back and I'm so glad I held off until I discovered the San Martin 62 MAS Homage. I have many Seikos and other 'mid-range' watches and the San Martin '62 MAS' is my favourite watch by a light year. It's comfortable, so well machined / finished and it's dead accurate too. +2sec per day. Great review as ever though. 👍
Oh man… well I’m glad your happy
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Haha, yes I know you don't care much for 'homage watches' but I saved a few bob -in order to buy a couple more Seikos! (Btw, If you want to review the JDM Seiko Alpinist GMT (in Green) SBEJ005 I'd be happy to loan it to you. Lemme know. 😎)
@@ClevaTreva hard to beat San Martin, and their bracelets and end links line up properly.
I wonder what the missus' verdict on the red San Martin SN0129 would be.
I really like Mido's new 39 mm diver
I like that one as well. Think it's about £1000.
@@orvillefindley8117 i think is under 1000£ around 1000$
You are going to get a lot more accuracy from that watch and that is the thing
@@Robert-vw3odfrom Mido or Seiko?
@@bking82 mido
i just bought this watch, my first automatic watch! i work at a jewellers, so i managed to get this watch with a 50% discount. £600 is such a steal! i love the date window. i know it’s not to everyone’s taste but i love it
"Dial Time!" lives in my head rent free
Great looking diver, but hard to justify after getting the SPB143
Hopefully you’ll be able to got to AD’s and try this on to compare!
Agree with your assessment. I have the spb149, four years old now. It started running +1 min/day about six mos ago, so needs a service, but was only +7 sec/day on avg prior to that. Love it, perfect daily!
Sounds like it's magnetized rather than needing a service.
I just got the glacier dial of the last version. With the Uncle z199 bracelet on, i haven't wanted to take it off
I also got the z199 for the previous version (SPB213) - only arrived yesterday but it looks spot on! (Also blue rubber strap from Strapcode looks fantastic 👍)
Put a solar movement in and it won’t need adjusting between clock changes in Spring and Autumn. Looks very tasteful and better than the Tudor for the money.
Wife's comments are spot on.
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on MaMaCoo 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
My SPB143 wore like a dream on an Uncle Seiko bracelet, but the movement is literally the least accurate movement I've EVER owned (even after a service and regulation). Many people online had my same issue, but I hope this movement is better because I love the design updates.
I have the same movement on my Alpinist. Inconsistent time keeping really let me down, for a watch which has a timeless design. The original "calf leather" strap is crappy, too.
@@princefrozen6902regulated my 143 and it's been a solid +3 for over a year now..👍
Apparently, if you are a seiko fanboi, watches don’t need to be accurate timekeepers 😂😂
@@marshallh9 I'm a time piece fanboi..only on the interwebs is this a mass problem..Regulate the watch...Simple
@@flow2tech Regulating a 6r35 is like herding cats. Change position and the accuracy and amplitude wobbles all over the place. Due to positional variance accuracy can vary from day to day depending on use.
Your videos always put me in a good mood.
I went from the SPB143 to the SLA043. Much as I love blue dials, I’ll stick with the 043 and its unfriendly 19 inch lug width.
I have the 140th anniversary edition of the 62 mas it has a 39.7mm diameter and a beautiful silver white dial. The bezel goes from almost black to royal blue depending on the light. Taking your advice about Seikos I sent it back to Seiko as the 6R35 movement was out of tolerance at -35 seconds per day. When Seiko returned the watch to me it was running at -20 seconds per day. This does not say much for Seiko's service department. I think these Seiko 62MAS watches are lovely but Seiko have to get their act together and regulate their watches. When you think of it you can buy an Aliexpress $50 Seiko NH35 powered watch that keeps +\- 5 seconds per day I have 4 like that. Lets hope the new movement lives up to yours. Always great entertainment thanks for the video.
The wife is a LEGEND!! 😂 She needs her own show 😂😂😂
That black on blue date display is actually looking great. It is uniquely cool. Could be a one watch collection
Good review. Nice watch too, but as an owner of a BB58 Blue and SPB143 Grey there is no room in my collection for one of these!
Try the black one on. You’ll thank me later;)
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR afraid that would be stepping on the toes of my Pelagos 39 ! 😬
The blue is truly mesmerizing. Much more interesting than the one on the Tudor Black Bay. Kinda expensive though...
Fantastic content as always. Can request one thing please? 4k content? Your work is so good it deserves it!
Thank you my friend! I don’t need to do it yet. 80% watch it on their phones and it looks 7k on those!!!!;)
OK, I do like it but...
1. A 62MAS reimagined reimagination without including the classic sunburst grey is a strange ommssion.
2. Somehow they've made this look less like the 62MAS and as you say more like a Tudor BB. As pleasent as the result is I'm not sure this is the direction I would have hoped for the legacy of such an iconic watch.
They are still selling the 143 so they can't release the exact same dial yet. I'm sure once the stocks of the 143 and 147 run dry we will get updated 62mas watches with those dials.
I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the amzwatch's watches are the most intriguing.
Great watch, but we've seen this or a version of it SO many times. There are scores of independent brands with similar specs, better bracelets, and more interesting dials for less cheddar! Great review, as always!
Looks awesome. Just wish the prospex subcategory drop the x on the dial now
Yes, I have bought from MAMACOO more than once. I even bought a new Omega Speedmaster which came with the fancy box and packaging. I am thrilled with all my purchases here. I would purchase from MAMACOO again for sure.
Nice Seiko watch! I love watches that look just as simple as that. Even if its cheap or expensive, I just love discreet looking watches.
The circular date window in money! So subtle and doesn’t affect dial symmetry! This is what I love about my Seaholm Rover! FYI you should check Seaholm out! 🤙🏼💪🏼
You put fun into these reviews. On the 62 MAS I think it would a perfect diver with no date. Thanks for the review.
I think if you are going to buy a diver that looks like this, then you should be buying the Tuseno Shellback. It's a much better looking watch at about a third of the price. Seiko has lost the plot when it comes to pricing.
Tried one on in store. They feel a signifcant step up from my147. I'd have been all over it if i hadn't just bought an SPB265 Willard ice diver. I think they are good value if you can grab them under £1000 and i easily found discounts on goldsmith on immediate launch to price them at £940
Mine is great, I’ve had it for about a month now since I purchased it a week before it was released and had it shipped from Japan. This watch has helped me downsize my collection because it rendered both my Seiko Tuna and my Citizen Fujtsubo And Cappuccino MAS obsolete. 300M on an elegantly sized diver with perfect bezel alignment and it’s only +3 seconds a day… wow
Hows the lume hold up kind sir i really love Seiko lume but sometimes specific model got better lumes than the other.. Thanks2
Beautiful, especially in blue
I bought a watch from MAMACOO lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
Hi MWC, got mine just yesterday. For 950 EUR from Italy, not a bad deal I think. I agree with you on the 3 Hz. but let's be honest, you get a good looking watch, pretty good workmanship (yea guys... I know all the complains about this or that😅) at a reasonable price point. One death you have to die. Makes it for me a perfect daily driver - not too cheap, not too expensive. Greetings from Germany and give my regards to Spencer, when you see him next time.
I was stuck between this and the King Turtle for my first “real” watch as an adult. I ultimately picked up the green King Turtle (SRPE05) and put a beads of rice style all-solid bracelet on it.
Smashed it aside the date porthole at 4.30…
Wasn’t an immediate fan of the porthole 4:30 date myself but it’s beginning to grow on me. Looks like a lovely watch overall. Still too expensive for me though for a Seiko to be honest, I agree with your closing comments on the price Russ 😊
I was looking at a san martin the other day, it was like 200 bucks looked like a vintage rolex gmt , the clasp was perfect, the fit and finish was perfect, it had sapphire, 200m, and on the fly adjustment and a seiko movement, what more could u want from a watch? But no spend 1500 on this
Give us all a laugh and stick it on a timegrapher.
8:00 he gave the accuracy the watch was running at
Too boring to do that. It’s set up at home. Losing 2 seconds this one
Put a tudor on timegrapher after paying 4k😮
Actually from my experience it’s not so bad, given the fact that you can easily regulate the Seiko movements yourself. Japanese style, they don’t want to lose face so they under promise in the specs. I have several 4R and 6R that run +4/5 seconds per day (regulated but it deteriorates when they reach the last hours of the reserve). Same for Grand Seiko - i experience an incredibly steady +1s per day on a 9SA5. Rolex-like, but way better than AP for example.
I switch watches every other day, so accuracy is not important to me. Honestly, I don’t see the point of a timegrapher. Just wear your watch and adjust it every couple of days, if necessary.
I like the way it looks. When they did the 3 O'clock date window with the lume pip next to it, the look was very awkward. So this greatly improves the design, moving the date to the 4 O'clock position. I'll probably try one out, but only on discount next time I visit Tokyo.
I thought they’d have been better leaving off the lume pip and luming the date wheel instead.
What a time. Awesome watch, but i'll order the new Samurai, gun metal, not black. Always love to see yuur show man😎🎶🎶🎶
It's a special timepiece 😮the special edition tide grey is stunning it's oner the best releases this year and definitely seikos number 1 dive watch release in 2024
This watch is perfect.
That Watch looks beautiful in that blue 💙
The 4:30 date window is the new big thing IMO succeeding GMT.
Now if Seiko et al can make a diver GMT with a 4:30 date window they’d have a homerun
Oh Russell, my wife going to receive another watch to add to the list. I love this new watch.
Deim you Watch collector!!!, your videos , spark my love and wanting a new addition , and next thing you know i am buying a beautiful watch reviewed here, pleas keep up the reviews , greetings from new York , i had enjoyed the live streaming you've done!
Subtle is right for that date window. I really like that
It is a great looking watch. No signed crown...hits just keep on comin with Seiko. They really needed that grey dial. Your wife's comments on your vids deserve its own video.
Did you know a lot of Rolex like the submariner don't have a signed caseback its completely blank and people love it 😂
@@daveLin104 My submariner has a signed crown, which is what we are talking about...
@brianmurphy8154 I get that, but do you not think an unsigned caseback is cost cutting or boring on such an expensive watch like the sub? Like the emperor's clothes, if has the crown on people love it.
I appreciate the improvements but hate the date window. I prefer the BB58 which is a lot more money of course.
Thanks for the review.
Not enough to get rid of my 143…. I agree with you about the power reserve 🤣😂.
Great looking watch. I have the older gilt version and I've always hated that 3hz tick. It looks cheap and as if its malfunctioning. Really wish Seiko would just release a 4hz version. Love the sz and that blue looks glorious.
This watch is a solid $700 watch due to the tighter tolerance 6R movement and overall watch build quality.
I don’t see a justification for a higher price. Bracelet-case interface leaves a lot to be desired and as mentioned before, the clasp is a no go. Seiko could make this a 4hz movement, but I guess that’s a lost battle. At least 6R movement is an improvement, but still not as good a the equivalent ETA movements in the Swatch group IMO.
I do like the 4:30 position of the date window. Functional and subtle, without breaking dial symmetry.
The wife's comments were 😬!!! I tried this exact model at my AD and really love the tweaks they did to the watch. It wore beautifully on my 7 inch (17.8cm) wrist, but I also liked the old model on wrist. This is just a touch more compact. I really feel like these changes make it the Seiko Prospex (not Seiko Luxe) equivalent of a Submariner, except a hair more than 1/10th the price. I am definitely tempted with this blue one, though I also would love to get a Doxa and I have 5 Seikos already (1 diver). Decisions, decisions...
I freaking love it. Even more than the previous one
Nice but I'll stick with my helm miyako .
Like the new size reduction and refined bracelet links, however I still prefer my SPB143 over this for a few reasons. 1) The old version had a much nicer and more durable stainless steel hard-coated bezel insert (the new one is cheap painted aluminum), 2) The grey sunburst dial is much nicer and true to the original, 3) the old one has several micro adjust holes where the new one only has 2 holes for micro-adjustments (the new shorter clasps suck).
I dont now why!? But seiko and Tudor are my favourite watches ❤❤
Haha, the wife nailed it, as always
A nice watch, I like blue not a huge fan, I lean towards the blacks and grey and browns. I have the SPB 147, and I believe i'll hold.
I need to see this one in person... finally a seiko Diver for my wrist. Incidentally, I say that wearing the 45mm Turtle right now, which actually wears OK (but not stellar) for my 6,5" wrist, but I love it anyway. When you compared it to the BB58 (which I do not own, have tried on, and want eventually) I have to say the Seiko blue just trounced it. The problem with Seiko, is stated accuracy specs, even though they are often much better, but still, and the dreaded misaligned bezels. I don't care for the date position on this one, and I agree about the 3 day text, kinda cheesy and who gives a flip... That said, I do want to check this one out. It looks good (to me).
I bought an Orient Kamasu (which has a conspicuously similar blue face) for $263 and a Jubilee style bracelet from Amazon for $21 and it is by and large a nicer watch. Nice Seiko, I suppose, but I'd rather take all the extra dough and buy a couple standout micros.
I still think £1,200 is too much for this kind of watch. I brought a Seiko Alpinist recently for £530... essentially the same movement and 200m water resistance. This was much better value for money. Date window here is even more of an afterthought then previous iterations but the dimensions seem more wearable.
Would worth peeking behind the caseback: it has a plastic spacer around the movement… I think no plastic parts should be in a mechanical watch, especially not above 1000 GBP…
The limited edition give me some tudor bb vibes. I wish they just remove the date instead of move it to between 4 and 5 hour marker.
Im quite lucky i own a sla043. New price in 2020 was £4080. I purchased mine used for £2350 in november 2020. These £1200 seikos are expensive , but id urge you to go the extra mile and get the sla versions. The difference is night and day . This model is nice , but the sla models are incredible, just dont buy new. My sla043 is my favourite watch , and ive got tags , rados , tudors etc. If you want a great dive watch , then buy a rado captain cook used for around £1200 or less. On the beads of rice bracelet , they are amazing. Go for the green or blue and you cant go wrong.
I'd prefer if this had 4R35 instead of the Seiko's notorious 6R movement. Of course the price should be much lower also. Only 4R's for me until Seiko can make a reliable 6R (or whatever) movement for this price point.
The watch itself looks awesome though.🔥
The 4R in my Turtle is has been quite reliable and fairly accurate for Seiko. I wound it and put it on today after having not worn it for a quite a while and as of right now, it's less than a second slow from when I set this morning. Not too bad. I'd take a 4R and paying less over the 6R at this price.... I do think this new 62MAS is a good looking watch is a good size for my wrist.
I think, it is a beauty, but not as beautiful as the SPB383 (and I think, the date window on the SPB383 is even more subtle). Love your video.
It looks like the Dutch Carl pique pacific blue. Take a look at it they are nice
The best thing about this watch is now you can get the SPB 143/145/147 for around $800 brand new!
They should make that grey version and it would be perfect
Love this Seiko!
Please give us a no-date version!
Yes!
I absolutely love your wife’s take on the watches …
She has a point: it does remind me of the blue BB58
Seiko seem to be aiming this one more at their existing desk-diver/muff-diver enthusiast community than at actual skin divers or real men. But I do love a reimagined, reimagined Seiko as much as the next man. 🤷♂
Great video as always. I’ve just bought the black dial. Not a fan of the clasp, bracelet still feels a bit jangly. Question, my crown seemed to have a bit of wobble when unscrewed, did you notice the same on yours you had in for review?
I was waiting for this review!🤩
Seiko needs to drop the minute markers on the bezel and it would look much better!!! If you look at all the top luxury divers, there are only 5min markers in the bezel instead of every minute.
If we’re being honest there aren’t many that are proper professional dive watches? FXD ? Designed with the Marine nationale? I think this is a good thing my friend. Makes it sportier
daft as a brush in an excellent way- subscribed
I always love What The Wife Said. She's wrong this time though. It's a classy diver. I really like it. Really do dislike the "3 Days" text though. That really cheapens it the way Casio's "10 Year Battery" cheapens Casios. And that brings me to price. Puhleez... that's a $350 watch. Not several times that. Getting very tired of Seiko insulting us with their pricing. Especially after insulting us how they do with their QC...
Thanks for your recent review of the Casio GW-M5610U! Mine arrived yesterday and I totally love it!
The gap between the end link and the lugs (on a £1,200 watch) giving me the ick
My 6r caliber in mm200 is regulated to 0.3 sec per day and in last 8 months it didn’t gain nothing.
This is the proof if regulated 6r caliber can be extremely accurate!!
I’m not sure many folks doubt that, but the point is that for the price, you shouldn’t have to regulate it
@@whodeycinbengalsBut you must understand that Seiko-Epson is a huge conglomerate,they sold just to Ali express brands around 40 million 4r calibers,can you imagine regulation by hand of 4r and 6r movements.Seiko is still along with the Rolex the most influental watch brand in the world and has army of fans like me which will buy a Seiko every year no matter if they have mineral glass or aligment problems or any other qc issues.
For manny Seikoholics,Seikopaths and Seikohards Seiko is like a heroin and I just need my dose of Seiko every year.
I love it apart from the date window. Not all of us want one.
It was that discreet , the only time I saw it was when I wanted to know the date!;)
I have a phone if I want to know the date, to me mechanical watches are jewellery, a no date watch looks better IMO - more symmetrical - and no need to set a date (and potentially doing damage to the mechanism when setting it at the wrong time etc.). This is a nice looking watch but a no buy: I'll just spend the funds on a holiday instead 😀
Save yourself a load of money with Fifty Four 62mas homage. The case is the same size as the original. You have a choice of an aluminium or ceramic bezel and the finish is superb. NH35 movement. I wanted a version as close to the original as possible, so I chose the aluminium bezel. Lume embarrasses Seiko. All for around £250! Oh and there's a grey dial!!
Pricing makes me consider the Seestern 'hommage'..