The 392 Rubicon.. BEST Jeep EVER! But here's the Problem!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2022
- I give you my thoughts on just how amazing the Jeep Rubicon 392 is and why I feel like it's the best Jeep every made; however, it might be too good. I give you my thoughts on price, availability, and if there's really a market for it. Would you pay over 90k for a Rubicon?
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A fairly loaded 3.6L V6 Wrangler stickers for around $65k. Another $13k gets you the 392 engine, Fox suspension, larger brakes, steel knuckles, CV joints, beefed up transmission, 392 exclusive leather seats, all of the safety groups, re-engineered ladder frame, etc. What owners are REALLY paying for is the exclusively, resale value and the satisfying V8 rumble that puts a smile on every owners face when pushing on the fun pedal.
Finally a smart person everything is expensive doesn't matter what car you have but most people online talk crap can't afford them still live with mom and dad
What happened to your wife she could drive and had a great smile
You can get a decently optioned Jeep Sahara with turbo 4 for low 40s. Swap that out for 5.7 hemi and your under 50, 000. The 5.7 is more than enough power for a Jeep.
@@doloressalgado3427 65k for anything that’s heavy and comes with 285 hp and no update in power since 2012 when it came out is not worth the money. And I payed way more for my hellcat than that and support myself in my own house happily married. When these should have never even been made with the 3.6 to begin with.
@@rideintothesun8106 what are you talking about a base Sahara starts at $43.5k once you add a couple of options your in the high 40s. When you do your hemi swap you're going to have to replace the transmission to since niethier the manual or auto was designed to handle a v8,and then you'd still be missing all the axle, brake, suspension, and more upgrades.
Just seeing the 392 Rubicon puts a huge smile on my face.I love the concept. Kudos to Mopar for pulling this off. To be honest, I would rather buy an older Jeep and drop a 392 crate motor in it.
I have bought one and Im currently waiting for another to be built. Keep in mind that many Jeep owners add lifts, 37"-40" tires, heavy armor, bumpers, and winches. The power of the 392 laughs at the added weight while the V6 becomes even more of a dog that it already is, even with deeper gears. Jeep was also smart by making the Rubicon 392 full time 4WD which helps to efficiently put all the power to the ground. The Hellcat Rubicon you drove was 2WD which allowed the power to over power the chassis.
Definitely an interesting perspective.. if you added all those things then I could definitely justify the 6.4..
I have a 2021 with the 3.6 and it has plenty of power! I was very impressed to be truthful. I know the older ones were Royal turds 💩!!
@@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod they been using the 3.6 since 2012 with the same pentistar output 285crank hp and 260 tq as the 2021. I’m pretty sure the only thing changed was gearing and trans therefore it’s always been a slow 💩 and slow in comparison to any v8. Also over priced. Never understood the following. Only one I like is the track hawk for apparent reason. 392 is s the way they needed to come the whole time as a base for cheaper.
Gravity is still real no matter what engine you drop in
@@joshreynolds729 the 8-spd made the biggest to the feel of 3.6l. My 6spd manual still sucks lol
I absolutely LOVE my Rubicon 392. But definitely a niche vehicle. I thought about the TRX, but in the end kept my Denali HD diesel and purchased the 392 for play. I smile every time I get in it and floor it!
The price is too goddamn high for these
There going to price themselves out of business.
@@corradoparris9679 but they aren’t. People are ordering them all the time
@@1titansno they aren't. The demand is limited production not demand. They don't make enough of these to keep the price high
I bought one and I'll tell anybody to get it also. The jeep is the best vehicle right now it's amazing !!
Agree 5.7 should be a option. Biggest down side for me is the fact you have to buy the best version to get that engine. 2nd down side is 90k is hellcat engine level. So it would be a hard no at that price point.
Would love to see a 5.7 at least in the Gladiator. When lifting these vehicles it's such a drag to see how much effort the engine has go through with the V6 even with gears. Honestly need all the help they can get.
Never made any sense 🙄
I'm usually all for the Heminsanity but a 5.7 would have been perfect and if that's where Jeep is going to go with it cool but a 6.4 in a Wrangler isn't going to make much sense for anyone largely due to the price, because after markups you could just get a TRX or Jailbreak.
Wrangler is so much more practical than either of those.
You can’t drive the jailbreak around me year round. The trx is just too damn big
Yeah but the TRX also has a truck bed. The Rubicon obviously does not. That’s huge for a lot of people.
You’re gonna pay a mark up on both the TRX and the Jail Break
I got mine at MSRP no markup. Hell I’m ready for more power so getting a tune soon. 4.88s tomorrow! On 37s now. Would hate it in a weak 5.7.
@@MrRjezonie hey if you got at MSRP than props to you, and for your setup the 6.4 makes total sense lol. That setup sounds like it's going to be sick
Great Jeep. Great options …what gets me is that you always say would you spend this cash for this Jeep if you’re not in a mountainous region. Or in the sticks.
But what I say is….born and raised in Chicago …with hot summers, which the roof is perfect for…and tough tough winters..which the 4x4 is perfect for…why wouldn’t it be right for the upper Midwest in the burbs?
This area has the worst streets…with pavement buckles, potholes, uneven surfaces. I gave up owning a car in Chicago…the suspension gets torn to shreds…you need a vehicle like this to handle these ‘off-road’ like conditions even though you’re not in the woods.
I feel you guys miss the connection and should stress that more…I don’t need to off-road…but if you’re in Chicago, Jersey,New York, Boston. These have got to be the best option to handle the urban terrain…which can be just as deadly as the trails…believe it or not…great stuff X
I ordered my first Jeep ever at the end of November in 2020. I ordered a 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. I ordered mine with the 3.6 liter V-6 w/ eTorque. About 2 weeks after I ordered my Jeep the 392 was announced. I was so freaking bummed. And then the Extreme Recon package was also announced too. Had I known those things I would have waited a few months and ordered a 392 with an Extreme Recon package. But oh well. Other than the eTorque, I love almost everything about my Jeep. It is definitely the most capable off road vehicle that I have ever owned. I do need to buy another truck though after I pay off my Jeep because I used the heck out of my trucks in the past. But that’s still another 2 to 3 years away.
It makes sense to me. A similarly equipped V6 Rubicon is over $60,000. Those who calculated the cost of a used (not new) 392 & trans + needed parts at $4-5000 are way underestimating all the costs needed to make the swap. I think you'd be way closer to $10,000 if you do all of the work yourself & end up with a used drive train. Maybe you could recoup a little by selling the old drive train. Having professionals do the new 392 swap will add $35,000 - $40,000, so you're right where the factory 392 cost (or more) with no factory warranty, etc. To me, buying a new factory 392 is a no brainer.
I appreciate your content-I like to hear the different views on the 392, brings me to reality that I don't even want it-the cabin is the same as all other wranglers, despise leather so wouldn't have that either and I'm really a speednut but I can get that in my challenger. I know this is for some folks, have yet to really see one on a trail or even someone that really likes it other than you tube. But anyone that happens to be Speed Racers brother I'm listening.
Agreed on a specific type of person. I find myself putting seat covers on after the gym lol. I have a work truck so it’s my weekend vehicle. Hell I don’t even eat in it. I’d say maybe as I see some wear & tear, then I’ll gradually lay off the OCD mindset. But I’d your a hard working person that you know this is what you deserve and it makes you feel good, the price isn’t bad. Especially these days. I love it. ✌️
I LOVE that vehicle!!! When I first saw they were making that and video I said I wanted one!!! But me living in the Northeast I STILL can’t fathom paying like 90 racks for something that doesn’t have a Hellcat on the side of it… I think I may wait and get a pre-owned one at the end of next year as my retirement gift for myself 😂😂
The 392 wrangler is the best Dodge Product in my opinion. Power of a muscle car and utility of an suv
Hardly an suv.
SRT Durango ,Grand Cherokee, and the Hellcat Durango and Trackhawk all existed for awhile now lol
The 6.4L engine in a small Wrangler was Jeeps way of giving the middle finger to the world. It makes no practical sense but I’m glad they made it. Jeep leadership still has a sense of humor, every other legacy manufacturer leader would have laughed this idea out of the office.
Yeah I disagree when the hellcat motor comes in other platforms. Jeeps to me have always been overrated and to damn expensive even if it comes with a v6 and they still want 60k when it’s worth 20-40. Then they put the 392 in it that’s being phased out for a reason for way more when a scat can be had for less with less weight. If your going to spend the money I would just get the Durango hellcat, track hawk, or trx. Not saying it’s not nice just to expensive and hard to find for what it is to be middle of the tracks in the upper segment of payments. And dodge always acts like they are lambos when you try to look at them or they just don’t help you. I wanted an suv for my wife but all the Big 3 dealers don’t want to help you and if they do then no deals are given at all or they don’t want to let you test drive them. Shit I’ve even driven up in a hellcat and barely got help. I now understand why people buy Hondas. they actually help you and they are cheaper on fuel, lighter, plus last unlike dodge products. And with gas prices the way they are and all dodge products being heavy sales will go down.
@@joshreynolds729 you just a karen
Not sure what this guy is talking about. I bought mine a week ago and drove it 300 miles home through the Smokey mountains and it handled like a dream. The paddle shifters are awesome and I didn’t have any issues.
I pretty sure this was the same guy that said the TRX was sketchy to drive, that’s my daily driver…so to each his own.
Great show mate and a good job explaining everything about the car good on you
I've owned my 2006 Jeep TJ Wrangler Rubicon since new. I've ordered my 2024 Jeep 392 Rubicon and can't wait for it to arrive!
I bought the 392 XR and absolutely love this thing. If this is a niche vehicle then I must be the target demographic. It has all the chops found on the standard Rubicon but bonus...it screams. What other vehicle can you go anywhere and enjoy front and rear locking diffs, swaybar disconnect, nice appointments, lifted from the OEM with 35s, bead-lock capable bronze wheels, a beefed up chassis, and a 6.4 Hemi that takes you from 0-60 in 4.2 with 4.56 gears. WOW! So whether you roll on the streets, or in the bush this is one capable and insanely fun vehicle. I hear that it has a stereo. I would not know because I keep the One-Touch top open to listen to the Glorius exhaust notes coming from the back. Thanks, Jeep!
I am picking up my 392XR on Friday. It is like Jeeps version of a G Wagon imho. I always liked Jeeps but never bought one because they lacked power and some other features I wanted in a daily driver. Now I can get a great utilitarian vehicle with off road styling AND power. It has just enough luxury, like heated seats/steering wheel and ACC, but still bare bones enough so i can hose it out. Everything I want in an SUV.
Yeah, it is a little pricey but I think it is worth it. You can barely find one under $100k on a lot. They haven't made a lot of them and you can no longer even order one for '22. '23 will likely be last year of the 392 (replaced by the HO Hurricaine).
It is a special car.
.As always another great review RacerX
Honestly, I have always been a Trailhawk fan … but wanting to upgrade to a V8 / hemp and as of 2023, they are going electric 😳 on the Trailhawk … so here I am checking out the Rubicon … and not disappointed.
Buying a 392 is a no-brainer choice. The resale value on used 392's are going higher than the markup on new ones. Jeep has cut off all 392 orders atm no one knows if they will open for MY23. Prices for existing new and used are going through the roof. Mine sits in my garage, it's going to be kept stock and low miles and no offroading. I have other jeeps to wheel and drive...the 392 is special and will be one of rare jeeps and why I bought it.
Funny you say that. I have on order with no markup but, the dealer had one on the lot somebody returned with 400 miles on it. Those are the ones being marked up, which they did. And they will resale very high because of the rarity factor. Unfortunately, I don’t have the discipline and will drive it into the ground.
Nice video . No thanks for 5.7. Finally pulled the trigger. I just ordered 2023 392XR. Can't wait. We gotta pay to play.
I love that Jeep built it! I hate that they priced it so high. What I really want is a mini TRX with the 392 for about $60k.
Anything Mopar is going to be double priced sadly
Beggars can’t be choosers.
Awesome content buddy 👍💪
Loved the video. Off-roading and Jeeps are the best!
That thing rips. It rumbles perfectly. Fast too
I just wish the interior was more bare bones and utilitarian. I don't drive a Jeep because I want it to be like a Cadillac Escalade. I drive a Jeep because I like the utilitarianism aspect.
Plate C
I don't own any jeep product or have the wants for one but I think they would have been better off if they stuffed a 5.7 in it due to gas prices fuel mileage and insurance purposes I agree they needed a v8 but at almost 100k I could justify one if I was to buy at a 100k it would be a trx just makes more sense to me I don't rock crawl and the use of a pick up I do have. Awesome content RACER-X and as always be safe 👍
With 4doors and epic Jeep capabilities matched w/a 392.
This has got to be the best Jeep ever made.
Would love to hear this beast on a hill climb or rock 🪨 crawling...
One thing you didn't touch on was the fuel demands of the Rubicon 392. Obviously with the lower MPG because of the 6.4L, you're going to burn through a lot of what that 392 requires, and that's Premium grade fuel. As much as I wanted a 392 when they came out, I had a feeling that fuel prices were going to increase eventually, and being that you have to put Premium fuel in the tank, that was the deal breaker for me. Had they gone with a 5.7 like in my Ram Rebel, that would have been easier on MPG and fuel costs. When they start dropped the I6 Hurricane in these, that'll be a game changer.
My Dad had a CJ-5 back in the 60’s…indeed we cleaned it out with a hose. If I recall correctly it had a 4 banger. Not much power, but it was geared so low we could go up and down really steep grades easily. It just kinda slowly pulled you up those steep hills. It was reliable and built to withstand just about anything. But driving on the street was very much like torture. This thing you just tested looks like it would be a real hoot to drive both on and off road, but I don’t think you could really put that much power to use off road unless you were in some kind of desert race. I like Rubicons and I love Hemis…but unless I hit the lotto I don’t think this would be great investment. Just my $.02. I enjoyed the video and your insight.
Yes I would spend 97,000 on a Rubicon 392, I’m jeep guy and I think it’s the perfect Jeep and within about a week I’m just deciding on which color to get I’m ordering one,, thanks for the video buddy👍
Ok!! I seen one at a dealership up here in Toronto, Canada for $138K + %13 Tax...COME ON !! $150K over the curb ?? Are we on earth here ?/
Jeep would have sold a bazillion 5.7l Jeeps.
Probably so 👍
And then we could’ve supercharged them!
Not the way they’re pricing other jeeps
I still want one. I’ll have to trade my Rubicon 21 for the 392. Hearing the power on it will be awesome.
I like the barebones look of my JK; less to be ruined. It has AC, power windows, and only 200 or so horsepowers haha (and half of that with the AC on). 0-60 in about a minute but my steel bumper helps manage traffic flow just fine.
One of these 392 Jeeps came to the shop I work at yesterday. I didn't believe it had a 392 in it because there's a fake one riding around with the 3.6 just with 392 badges and the hood on it.
Freaking zero regrets I absolutely LOVE my 24 392. OffRoad+ turns it into a whole different street beast with pops and burbles
I'm not a truck/jeep guy but this one is cool. Just because of the engine
I want one!🔥🔥🔥🔥 that’s why I didn’t get a wrangler cuz they didn’t have a v8 version and ended up getting a 2008 Jeep srt8
The 392 is the most bang for the buck rubicon you can order. 392 package comes with so much more then just the engine. And on 40 inch tires and Dana 60s with a 4.88 gear I average 15.5 mpg. Worth ever penny!!
I looked for months and went into the dealership in person to negotiate. Being pre approved and on the lot in person adds to that negotiation power. The msrp on mine was 85,600 i paid 82,000 for a new 2022 with the recon package.
Gotta throw some content on that bad boy. You paid a pretty penny for it, why not show some cool content for it?
@That V8 Life I’d hope there’s a video. Kickass cars you got btw 👍🏼 The SS caught my eye the most, badass Bronco you got tho 🤝
I am a Jeep lover and rock crawler and I would definitely rock crawl this monster.
I think more would sell with a 5.7 which is plenty of power. Also never understood why people complain about the interior of a Jeep? It's meant to go off road and have fun. Cars are made for nice interiors!
Right! My jeep has 4.5 lift with 35, cloth top no windows and I cannot even recall the last time I checked to see if the AC works!
You never got around to what you said you were going to do... which was talking about the things that jeep Finally corrected on this on this Jeep
I absolutely love it, but don't think it's quite worth the price. Do I want one? Yep! Will I buy one? Probably not.
I wouldn't buy one but I love the 393 in my skat pack killerBee. Nice video there Racer X.
Thanks buddy 👍
Got my order on a 392 it will be the most fun car ever made
I am debating between the 392 Jeep and a pickup- tough decision in that neither are cheap.
Seems nowadays it’s hard to even find a 5.7 Grand Cherokee. In ‘13 the dealer had both the 3.6 and 5.7 lined up for a test drive. Did the 5.7 first and had no interest in even trying the V6 after that. I think a 5.7 in a Wrangler would have been just perfect (but not for me @ 6’7” and 280lbs I wouldn’t know how to fold me into the driver seat). Currently drive a RAM… would have loved the 392 option without having to go straight to TRX. That said, considering the money I’ve thrown at it so far and I’m not even done, I could and should have had a TRX (got my ‘19 Laramie dec ‘18).
A 5.7 Hemi would have been cheaper and more practical imo.
i been sayin this since the 392 dropped
Jeep leadership wanted the V8 Wrangler to go out with a bang, hence the 6.4L engine. 2023 will most likely be the last year it is offered before it goes the way of the Do Do bird.
The price difference would be minimal. Look at the cost difference between a base rt and a base scatpack for charger or challenger.
5.7 is a weak motor, no thanks
@@jtc1964x actually… thats backwards lol
Have a 392 on order.....Would be nice to see the 5.7 Gladiator.
here in Hawaii, regular rubicons are stickered at over 80k. Heck, RT 5.7 challengers are 50k LOL Even if I'm not gonna get a 392 rubicon, I'm afraid to see how much it's marked up over here😬
I like the new intro better than the old one.
I agree with everything that you said literally 👍🏿💯
My type of vehicle period
I wish they’d at least put twin turbos on it or give it a motor like the one in the trackhawk
I LOVE my 392XR! I even traded my beloved built JKU for it. I was hoping it would be closer to 60k…
However, I think its worth the cost if you look at the price of other new cars. This is a special edition vehicle, so of course the price is “special”.
It’s a smooth riding go anywhere sleeper! Plus the MPG is basically the same as my JKU was.
It’s definitely a niche vehicle, but it checked all my boxes (e.g. V8, small SUV, AWD, 4WD, rugged, fast, mod-able, Wrangler)
Also, where are these low priced TRXs at???
I would love a Wrangler Sport with a 5.7. It would probably be a little more practical. The 392 is just way out of my price range!!
There are plenty of folks with built jeeps costing well over 100K, I am one of them. The Wrangler 392 gives me what I want and that is power, the V6 is gutless with big tires and I don't like diesels or the turbo lagging 4 banger. Yes I would spend the money on a 392 Wrangler, also looking at future collectability and the fact that these will keep there value well over any hellcat which I also own.
I gotta agree racerx for the money I'd definitely take a trx over that Rubicon, but thats just me.
in Canada the jump from a 2.0t loaded Rubicon to the 392 is ~30000$ lol
This is the first of your videos I’ve seen and no homo or anything but your eyes are just PIERCING!!
Thought I found one for 75k online only to find out the dealership threw a 30k markup on it and ruined my dreams of owning one. So I'll keep my widebody 392 Charger and eventually just get a regular Jeep Sahara, and throw a Ripp Supercharger in it
Yeah it’s bull how these dodge dealers act. Same story in ford and Chevy. Just buy from a private seller and cut those ass hats out they don’t deserve to screw america anymore. You got a dream make it happen.
Don’t buy off the lot. Have the dealer order it
6.4 Jeep FTW!
Love these Jeeps! Out of my price range. 😩 But, I've been happy with the performance of my 2013 3.6 v6 Wrangler Sport 2 Dr. I kept mine stock BUT did give it the Magna-Flow duel exhaust and the K&N cold air. Made a world of difference in the driving experience. Plus...I give it gas...it goes!
Would and did! I love mine! ❤
The 5.7 has been out now for like 100 years. Why Chrysler/Jeep/MOPAR/FCA/Daimler/Noww Stella….have they NEVER slapped a 5.7 in the wrangler??
The 6 cyl for YEAAAAARRSS!! Why I never even contemplated buying one. Then when they do put a v8 in it, they go 80k and 6.4? And wait until gas is climbing and V8’s are on the way out. It’s madness I tel you! 😉
Like the 392 but would rather see a 5.7 version for the cost alone. Same exact vehicle only with the 5.7. And with the cost of gas 5.7 the 3.6 just doesn't get out of it's own way.
The base cost of vehicles like the challenger or charger on 5.7 vs 6.4 is only a couple thousand. It's just harder to find the 6.4 version without a ton of extras nowadays because there just aren't a lot of vehicle being made.
Exactly! The 5.7 even sounds better.
Nice looking Jeep, but I’ll stick to my 1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer. Classic is where it’s at.
Great one of the best
Don’t forget that the Eco Diesel is a rocket ship too.
I just want indigo blue or ocean blue back so I can order one now
Does anyone know if it's possible to import the 392 Hemi version to Europe?
Those are not 33” tires (you said wheels but you meant tires)….this has the XR package which has 17x8 beadlock capable wheels with 315/70 tires (about a 35” tire) vs the 285/70 tires (about a 33” tire)
Would I buy one? Yep, should arrive in July 🙂
Gladiator 345/5.7l would be great👌
The new jeeps are clean. The V6 they put out a few years ago is mean.
I Like the 392 Wrangler but it’s way too expensive to not be able to get full use of it, I driven I base model jeep & couldn’t much use out of it where I live. If I stayed in Arizona I wouldn’t mind but i always thought they should have made 5.7 one first
I want a gladiator with 392 but could never afford it
It’s almost like FCA had plans to put v8s in their SUVs
Im driving a 2013 wrangler. 3.6ltr with 305,000 miles. Got my moneys worth.
As for the 392...its cool and all. But i dont think there are alot of jeepers willing to "offroad" such an expensive vehicle. Maybe some overlanding...but nothing hardcore
Hell yeah I would
So alot of Sahara owners argue their suspension is the same as a Rubicon , that true .
I always thought a Rubicon was made with heavier parts ?
would you trade a loaded 2020 Grand Cherokee SRT for it? considering but torn
I ordered a 392 Rubi last year… once it came in and let the $83,000 out the door sink in i ended up passing… its just way to much loot for a Jeep in my book. Another AWESOME upload X!
The interior is pretty much identical too any other similar speced jl don't really know what you meant by that?
Straight pipe it and add a cam, then you’ll have a jeep that sounds correctly.
Love the 392, can you ever justify the cost? Depends on what the budget and heart says.
Would be my dream vehicle if it was available in a Manual Transmission, and no the crappy flappy paddle shifters don't count. Driving a performance vehicle with an automatic is like driving with a condom on. That's fine if that's what your use to, but I drive with all the feel I can get, the way driving was intended!
Then by new 5.0/mustang. It will scare you. Traded my 2022 mach1 w/HP for my new Rubi.
That would be on my wish list if I could afford it. My Cherokee Trailhawk has a 271hp 3.2L that gets around good for a Jeep.
Ordered one in January. Still no word
Unreal ☹️
Why is everyone saying it should have a 5.7? That engine is ridiculously underpowered for its size by today’s standards and the gas mileage isn’t that far off from the 392. It makes complete sense for Stellantis to use the 392 as the last hurrah for 8 cylinder Wranglers. What doesn’t make sense is how expensive this thing is.
Everything is fine but the price and now fuel economy
Why didn't they put the Boss 429 in it???
It's sad this never came in a manual
$90,000 is insane. Real jeep enthusiast will put the 392 in a jk or wrecked jl since all you need is the chassis and frame and interior everything else gets changed , motor transmission axles suspension
Many are getting this with the Xtreme Recon package
I think what led me to not buying the 392 was that it has cylinder deactivation. I ended up picking a TRX instead.
They had to install it for CAFE reasons