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- It's now harder than ever for young drivers to get race seats in F1 and it's down to reasons beyond their control. What used to be a reliable pipeline into Formula 1 for a rookie driver is now flawed and not fit for purpose. But is there anything F1 and the FIA can do to correct this ? Or is it an issue which will just solve itself?
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Which driver do you think didn't get a fair chance at F1?
Vergne, Nasr, Vandoorne and Wehrlein
@@laurierastogi3512 2015/2016 feelings
Wehrlein was good but had a huge attitude problem, which held him back according to people in F1 I've spoken to.
F1 is losing the American eyes especially for black balling Andretti
I can't wait to see how the Americans respond at Grand Prixs this year. Attendance, Hype etc
I've found a kindred soul! I'm with you on the Sprint Race option, I've been tooting that horn for a while. It's such a fantastic opportunity to do something, whether it be reverse grids, a knockout format, joker laps, whatever, and yet we just get a less significant race. Let's fix that!
That suggestion also potentially gets rid of another problem in F1: having your best prospects race for your competition. Long term, I want 10 independant, competitive teams, which isn't going to happen as long as we have subservient VCARB and junior drivers racing against their main daddies.
Another way to include more drivers would be an impopular one: if Liberty insists on ever increasing the number of race weekends, it could force drivers not to exceed 22 races per year out of a, say, 30 race calendar. This would dilute the talent at any given event, which Liberty probably wouldn't be fond of, but if they want to stretch the elastic without it snapping, that could be a solution. You could have the European Majors (Spa, Monza, Silverstone, Monaco) and the World Grand Slam (Japan, Canada, Australia, Brazil) be worth more points, insuring some events have the full "best" grid, and maybe you'd want to optimize your lineups for certain tracks, or front-load your best drivers' schedules if you know you have a great car at the start of the season... the strategic possibilities expand. Would I favor that? No, I like the sprint idea much better, but if we must have 30-32 races, well, let's make the most of it.
I like the idea of having more cars/drivers, but mostly on its own merit; I don't think it's a sustainable way of dealing with the problem. Sure, you get a one time influx of 4 drivers (let's say Drugovich, Lawson, Giovinazzi and Bearman, for argument's sake), but the nature of the beast hasn't changed. You still get the problem 5 years down the road, albeit maybe slightly toned down.
Also, older, known, marketable drivers will always be attractive to teams and fans alike. Vettel was a shadow of his former self whenhe retired, yet we still have calls for him to come back. Hulkenberg is lauded as a pair of safe hands, a quick qualifier that everybody wanted to see back on the grid despite being on the wrong side of 30. Finally, the daddy of them all, Daniel Ricciardo, who probably no longer has the pace to be a good F1 driver, but is a massive commercial asset to whoever employs him.
In my opinion, your idea of having the ROOKIES participate in the SPRINTS would only make sense if both cars were driven by young drivers.
If it is mixed, as you suggested, it would create anomalies in terms of points among the starting drivers.
And it wouldn't be fair.
For example:
Williams has a good performance at Monza and has a chance of scoring.
Let's say the chosen starter is Sargeant, it wouldn't be fair to Albon, do you agree?
And there will still be the risk of accidents. Which would further harm the holder who did not participate in Sprint.
Maybe a chance for F1 to bring back the T Car?
@@thegridgab Ok. The is good, expensive, but good
For me, the best idea to increase the chances of having young drivers in F1 would be for the FIA to raise the COST CAP limit and the time in the wind tunnel for teams that hire young drivers.
Giving more benefits to F2 champions
It could even be retroactive, thus increasing Drugovich and Pouchaire's chances.
Would create a good incentive, nice idea
More teams a "rookie" spot on each team. MORE RACERS ON THE GRID
One of the main reasons why we have so few ROOKIES in F1 is caused by the fact that drivers are starting in the category younger and younger and leaving F1 older and older.
The spending cap, as you said, is also aggravating this problem.
This is because young people are more at risk in terms of accidents.
Cheers for watching
When drivers like Magnussen Riccardo Stroll Hulkenburg and even though i like him Bottas are wasting seats its a problem
And on borrowed time
Nice video and some interesting ideas Paul. In essence, i like your idea about Rookies in the cars for the sprint races, but I cannot see the teams agreeing to it. The risks of a Rookie wrecking a car the day before the main event are too high and the smaller teams may not be able to cover that loss. I agree that there needs to be a complete overhaul of how new talent enters the sport but unfortunately, whatever the solution may be, it is likely to be unfair and not 100% based on a driver's ability.
F1 sprints COLLIDE(same day) with F2sprints
...but its good thing that F2 has ground effect cars as well = similar beahviour + less dirty air, ...this should ve came to F2 way way sooner, ....also no power steering in F2 is BS, up to 4G side load
I definitely would like to see a race weekend filled with rookies, it would be a chance for the rookies to prove themselves and also a test for the cars in the hands of a rookie.
Would also be a shop window for teams
Banning in-season testing (or limiting then to Pirelli tyre runs) is not helping the rookie situation. They're learning during weekends, just Michael Andretti did in 1993 when they limited practice laps and testing that year. Just like his attempt to lodge an 11th entry, his F1 driving career ended after a podium at Monza.
Definitely not helping!
And as for Sargeant, even Alex Albon has come on record saying how difficult the FW45 was to drive, as it was extremely unpredictable, making it very hard to find out where the limit is. His performance in the FW45 showed Albon's experience as much as it showed Sargeant's inexperience. Because F1 cars are bespoke, one cannot simply look at raw results to determine a driver's suitability. One also has to take into account the car they're given.
When Sargeant was in F2 in 2022, his teammate was Lawson, who finished ahead of Sargeant in the standings by only by 1 point; while Sargeant won the qualifying battle 10-4. In races where they both finished, their records are level at 8-8. Would Lawson have done better driving the FW45 in place of Sargeant? I don't know, that's impossible to tell without actually putting him in the car, and given that he's contracted to Red Bull, that's unlikely to happen.
Going back further, in 2020 he went into the final race in Mugello level on points with Piastri in F3, and started ahead of both other championship contenders, Piastri and Pourchaire. If he wasn't taken out of that race through no fault of his own, he could very well have won the F3 title that year ahead of Piastri, who went on to finish 7th to claim those 4 points by which he won the title. He won the qualifying battles there too, 8-1 against Piastri and 8-1 against Vesti. He scored three poles that year out of the 9 qualifying session - more poles than any other driver that season.
He then went to a backmarker Charouz team in 2021. While he only finished 7th in the F3 championship that year, he scored 102 of the team's total 127 points, completely demolishing his teammates in the process.
Sargeant has the speed, the talent, and the potential. What he needs is experience and consistency. As James Vowles had said before, it wouldn't be right to just throw him into the deep end rather than giving him the time and the opportunity to prove himself. As part of the Williams Driver Academy, it's only natural that Williams gives him preference for that seat.
And quite frankly, James Vowles' opinion is the only one that matters.
We'll have to wait and see. Hope he pulls it together...
Sprint races count towards WDC points. Can’t leave a driver out so that a rookie drives
Adjust the purpose of a sprint race then.
We are going to have, what? Our 3rd straight F2 champion without a seat? And I don't see it being any different for the 2025 champion or the 2026 champion. We are going to have a backlog of talent. The only way I see F1 making any kind of moves to give the young guns a chance is if the top 3 or 4 drivers say "the hell with it" and leave for other series. But I know that would be tough for a young driver to do with the dangling carrot of an F1 seat in their face.
Hamilton and Alonso will retire in the next couple years which will open up places
I think one of F1's biggest issues is the fact that drivers are beginning their careers in their late teens or early 20s and staying in the sport well into their 40s. This means you don't get the quick rotations of the past; 10 years was once considered a long career, whereas now it's becoming the average.
On top of that, you're restricted to just 20 drivers. The best solution would be more teams, but we don't want the debacle we had with the new teams that entered the sport in the 2000s or Haas.
I like the idea of sprint races being used to help give rookies a chance, but I'd take that one step further and force teams to field two drivers under the age of X. You could see some sprint specialists emerge, and having the age limit would compel teams to either give them a chance in the endurance or feature races or drop them entirely.
Nice idea with drivers under the age of X. Also with more teams, you might have to extend the points places to 15th considering the reliability of cars now
Young/f2 drivers in sprint race won't work. Imagine you're Max and a junior driver bin your car during a sprint race lol
Up to the junior driver to decide if he wants to anything stupid
Good video. This is one thing that F1 specially falls short on. WEC/IMSA/IndyCar/NASCAR have tons of opportunities for drivers to showcase their talents
Cheers! Yes they do a great job
You keep referring to Williams as a backmarker, yet forget that it was also known for being quite a slippery car. Monza was a track that absolutely suited the Williams' characteristics. That de Vries scored points in a Williams was not unexpected, given the performance of the car at Monza.
Horses for courses but that was absolutely a backmarker car
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Sprints for rookies won't work really, they will need practice and time to setup the cars, which will be detrimental to the established drivers. Also, then you can't include sprint points in the drivers' world championship making them even less attractive.
Since Max Verstappen the FIA has set the minimum age at 18 years, let them introduce a mandatory retirement age, say, 36 years... problem solved. Let's face it, it's almost 50 years that a driver older than that has won the title. F1 shouldn't serve as an opportunity for washed up ex-champions to bolster their retirement funds just because they're still marketable for their waning fame. ;)
And pressure fr Dad!!
But of course!
Instead of letting him waste away until his late 20s, almost a dinosaur in F1 terms, imagine if Merc gave Williams some more money to get De Vries a seat instead of bloody Latifi. It's not like Williams aren't already basically their junior team at this point. I like your sprint idea, but the teams and sponsors would never take it. Ever. And neither would the drivers - they would do anything to be the guy who doesn't get swapped out.
If Williams had signed Devries alongside Albon, he would still be on the grid now I think.
Williams are an independent team and they make their own driver choices. Toto Wolff has, and should have, no say whatsoever. Williams also have their own driver academy to cater for, and have O'Sullivan and Colapinto in the wings to come into the team when the time is right.
As a one-eyed, dyed-in-the-wool Williams fan, I am sick to death of Williams being used as a dumping ground for other teams' junior drivers. Williams needs to look after its own, those who are in the Williams Driver Academy, and those who are willing to commit to Williams long term without contractual strings attached to anybody else.
And as a Williams fan too, I agree. If in the future they can rid of Mercedes and secure their own works engine deal, they will be back!
@@BomberFletch31 I hear you, but it's the reality of being a backmarker. Russell was there as part of the deal for Merc to supply engines. Like it or not, Williams have a relationship with Merc. That's just the reality, or at least it was until very, very recently.
@@thegridgab well, Williams have just signed an extension to their contract with Mercedes a month or so ago. They will continue to supply engines and gearbox to Williams for 2026 and beyond. Honestly, I don't mind that, so long as the relationship is nothing more than customer and supplier.