It's great that you are filming how to do all the little finite steps in tearing it all apart and putting it back together. I would just permanently take that sway bar off, you really don't need it, and it limits your articulation on the trail.
Precisely why Ford's ratio choice was not a good idea IMO. Small ring gears with aggressive ratios is a recipe to have exactly what happened to him here.
Man, glad you got everything back together! Nice work! So is that oem parts you put back on? Wonder how they were able to get those. Same thing happened to my 19 Ford Ranger. Was the whole unit. Now I have the badlands Bronco so i have a beefier front Diff.
'19 ranger owner here... having disassembled the front suspension completely, UCA, LCA, man, it looks REALLY similar to your bronco underneath... i want a locking front diff, so i appreciate you video'ing the removal of the axles and diff. Will really help me in the future. Oh, and the torque spec for the lower control arm bolts is around 200 ft lb... my back hurt the next day after loosening those bad boys.
But its not serviceable... lol yeah good idea, though eventually will change it out again once the upgraded spicer parts are available so guess I will end up with 2 back ups 😀
I can’t remember if you said it in the previous post, but is the replacement from a Sasquatch equipped model? The extra torque from the tire and rim upgrade probably did a number on the differential along with the impact. Great video Bill!
No its not, its direct replacement so still an M190 the weaker gearbox. Was lucky enough to find one that was same gear ratio so will have to do for now.
Took it off to compare mpg with it on/off I was asked if it made an impact and had no idea since I put so much on at once I have no idea what did or didn't have an impact.
I didn't find the Bronco ones so torqued to ranger specs, will keep looking for the Bronco ones so when I re-torque everything at 500 miles I know I am using right ones. I haven't been too close to Cincinnati yet, but if you know of anywhere near there thats worth checking out I am down to go.
I would still let them try. They would be happy to swap the parts if they get it covered. They can charge Ford for the labor without having to do any of it. Would be nice to have a spare diff assembly for future mishaps.
It's a very interesting video!! Maybe the speed of the car hitting something there was a problem, as you said, an impact may have chipped something there. I do feel encouraged to drive a lot slower in any such conditions though.
Over confident? Maybe a little careless and abusive looked like.. The bronco is very capable,but not indestructable. Ford does have a new beefier gear through ford performance coming. Thinking that new gearing might be in the Bronco Raptor.
@@johnt6673 lol yeah guess its hard to tell the tone of how I said that over text, but yeah there is new beefier gearing coming out directly from spicer which is most likely the same ones that Ford performance will be using. tried to get access to them early but not luck , but got lucky with finding OEM replacement for now.
Great work Man I feel for you not having a lift. Crawling around on the concrete floor up and down a gazillion times isn’t any fun at all lol. I regeared my Jeep on jack stands and although it went smoothly I was sore for about a week. Hey you were talking about getting some wheels for dedicated off-road and I think you want negative offset instead of posit? Cheers
stock wheels are +55 offset, the ones I am replacing are a 0 offset which moved them a bit too far ou, I like the poke but have the big show wheels and tires ( -44 ) when ever I want that look now, so going to split the difference with something around a +18 or round about to bring it back in a little bit, but not too far so can run 37's without having to worry about any rubbing.
Yes, it is creating more angle than stock for sure but shouldn't be too extreme to cause issues. Eventually will get those angle back closer to stock, as better lift kits become available that address the geometry.
@@EvilleTruck In racecar days we would polish the cv and use slightly smaller balls (.001) to free up movement. I would also be concerned that the ring n pinion is not beefy enough to handle the bigger heavier load of the larger tires.
You should go with gloss. Cyber Orange has a lot of depth, which is what you paid for. It would be a shame to cover it all up. Matte/Stealth is great at making boring colors look interesting, but that’s not what I’d go for with Cyber. Just my 2 cents!
Could you have put in an M210 steel diff instead of the M190 aluminum? Also there’s a Teflon fix to the steering rack problem on TH-cam (it keeps the rack from jumping teeth)
I could have if I was able to find one that was geared the same but not a ton of them out there in the world yet. I have ordered the Broncbuster stuff already , both the steering rack fix and tie rod reinforcements so they will be going on as soon as they get delivered.
@@EvilleTruck The M210 is steel and doesn't flex like the Aluminum 190's do. I honestly feel that even with better gears, the aluminum will flex and chew up expensive gears just the same. Good video, and props on the old school shop work!
Aluminum Deflects r&p gears strip why would they put the pinion in one half and the ring gear in other half bad design. They should have followed jeeps lead and ditched weak independent front for a solid axel .thought this was a Bronco not a jackass donkey ford failed bye puting a rack a pinion steering in it too .I'm am disappointed based off a ranger/escape lame looks cool but isn't tuff too bad
Man I was hoping you would have It fixed for the new years ride I was looking forward to seeing it in action I have a bronco but mine is a little bit older it's a 1978 when the warranty is over on yours you should solid axle swap it interlake is hard on equipment but it's fun
What ever happen to ford and the warranty claim? I recently busted something similar like u just driving down the road while it was snowing and put it in goat mode slippery and heard a big bank and clanking. Now it’s in ford for warranty claim
Ford denied the claim which I expected, luckily I was able to find a replacement FDU from someone that was doing a solid axle swap and no longer needed theirs.
I got lucky and got them from another owner that is doing a solid axle swap on their Bronco for an awesome deal. To order it directly from Ford would have been 2k-3k
I’m assuming because you’re not complaining in the video even though this is the 4th time you’ve done this (that the parts arnt complete crap?) and you are just a hardcore off-road guy…? I’m scared because i ordered a Badlands Bronco… 😅
II have had everything apart a couple of times changing out parts and doing lifts this is first time replacing something that broke. and that broke under not so normal conditions, also this was the weaker of the gearboxes your badlands has the stronger one so should be ok, just don't go speeding into mud wholes way to fas at a bad angle and you will be ok.
I think this was the problem with your rack: th-cam.com/video/F0H-6Vx8Ui8/w-d-xo.html . Ignore the thumbnail, that wasn't the mode of failure, it's just for views i assume.
It's great that you are filming how to do all the little finite steps in tearing it all apart and putting it back together. I would just permanently take that sway bar off, you really don't need it, and it limits your articulation on the trail.
Good job Bill 👍 happy to see you got your Bronco fixed. No, we don't want to see another video like this 😁✌
haha true hopefully no more broken gear videos
Damn that's a tiny ring gear.
Precisely why Ford's ratio choice was not a good idea IMO. Small ring gears with aggressive ratios is a recipe to have exactly what happened to him here.
Man, glad you got everything back together! Nice work! So is that oem parts you put back on? Wonder how they were able to get those. Same thing happened to my 19 Ford Ranger. Was the whole unit. Now I have the badlands Bronco so i have a beefier front Diff.
They took them off to do a solid axle swap, I will eventually upgrade to the spicer updates when they are available but the pen works for now
'19 ranger owner here... having disassembled the front suspension completely, UCA, LCA, man, it looks REALLY similar to your bronco underneath... i want a locking front diff, so i appreciate you video'ing the removal of the axles and diff. Will really help me in the future. Oh, and the torque spec for the lower control arm bolts is around 200 ft lb... my back hurt the next day after loosening those bad boys.
Yeah the are pretty similar, have used a few torque specs from the Ranger that I was not able to locate for Bronco :)
I would hang on to the diff housing I am sure Arb or someone else will come out with gear and input shaft upgrade. Then you will have a back up
But its not serviceable... lol yeah good idea, though eventually will change it out again once the upgraded spicer parts are available so guess I will end up with 2 back ups 😀
I can’t remember if you said it in the previous post, but is the replacement from a Sasquatch equipped model? The extra torque from the tire and rim upgrade probably did a number on the differential along with the impact. Great video Bill!
No its not, its direct replacement so still an M190 the weaker gearbox. Was lucky enough to find one that was same gear ratio so will have to do for now.
Happy your back on the road with 4H and 4L, can't wait to see you go back and show that mud hole whose Boss 👍
Very soon!
I have been considering “stealth” wrap myself. I don’t even have my Bronco yet just been admiring everyone else’s. Hot Pepper Red.
Nice, I still haven't seen the Hot Pepper red in person yet, just the pictures and it looks great, would be a cool color in stealth too.
Gloss. And nice work
Thanks 👍, yeah after some sun light on them both, I am going to have to go with gloss
What happened to the roof top light bar?
Took it off to compare mpg with it on/off I was asked if it made an impact and had no idea since I put so much on at once I have no idea what did or didn't have an impact.
Glad you got it fixed! What torque specs did you find, Bronco or Ranger? Also, I’m down in Cincinnati. Do you wheel anywhere close to here at all?
I didn't find the Bronco ones so torqued to ranger specs, will keep looking for the Bronco ones so when I re-torque everything at 500 miles I know I am using right ones.
I haven't been too close to Cincinnati yet, but if you know of anywhere near there thats worth checking out I am down to go.
I would still let them try. They would be happy to swap the parts if they get it covered. They can charge Ford for the labor without having to do any of it. Would be nice to have a spare diff assembly for future mishaps.
Was thinking the same exact thing. If they can warranty it you have to let them. Even if you just end up with a spare part.
@@sinepari9160 didn't realize they use Chinese children to make parts for the Bronco.
Its scummy ideas like this that cause dealerships to and manufacturers to be so shitty about warranty work for legit claims.
What size are the tires you are selling , I think on my outer banks I can go 33 without a lift.
They are 35's 35x12.5 0 offset
Greay work. I cant wait to see the next off road videos!
Thanks, looking forward to getting it back out on the trails too 😀
It's a very interesting video!! Maybe the speed of the car hitting something there was a problem, as you said, an impact may have chipped something there. I do feel encouraged to drive a lot slower in any such conditions though.
Bill - you are a trailblazer. Thanks.
haha thanks, just trying to keep things running smoothly :)
WOW!! What did you do to strip the ring gear like that?
I got a little over confident with a mud hole th-cam.com/video/NJ6EpNa2hQE/w-d-xo.html
Over confident? Maybe a little careless and abusive looked like.. The bronco is very capable,but not indestructable. Ford does have a new beefier gear through ford performance coming. Thinking that new gearing might be in the Bronco Raptor.
@@johnt6673 lol yeah guess its hard to tell the tone of how I said that over text, but yeah there is new beefier gearing coming out directly from spicer which is most likely the same ones that Ford performance will be using. tried to get access to them early but not luck , but got lucky with finding OEM replacement for now.
Great work
Man I feel for you not having a lift. Crawling around on the concrete floor up and down a gazillion times isn’t any fun at all lol. I regeared my Jeep on jack stands and although it went smoothly I was sore for about a week. Hey you were talking about getting some wheels for dedicated off-road and I think you want negative offset instead of posit?
Cheers
stock wheels are +55 offset, the ones I am replacing are a 0 offset which moved them a bit too far ou, I like the poke but have the big show wheels and tires ( -44 ) when ever I want that look now, so going to split the difference with something around a +18 or round about to bring it back in a little bit, but not too far so can run 37's without having to worry about any rubbing.
Awesome job. You made it look easy.
Thanks 👍 , I edited out all the swearing and yelling lol , it wasn't too bad just awkward to get in and out.
Any chance your lift is creating a severe halfshaft / axle angle.
Yes, it is creating more angle than stock for sure but shouldn't be too extreme to cause issues. Eventually will get those angle back closer to stock, as better lift kits become available that address the geometry.
@@EvilleTruck In racecar days we would polish the cv and use slightly smaller balls (.001) to free up movement. I would also be concerned that the ring n pinion is not beefy enough to handle the bigger heavier load of the larger tires.
@@EvilleTruck just watched another video that talks about a small piece in the steering rack that fails and allows slop in the rack.
@@bluedog373 yeah been following along the BroncBuster issues and solutions ordered it as soon as their site went live 😀
Gloss looks much better to me 😊
Gloss all the way 👍
You should go with gloss. Cyber Orange has a lot of depth, which is what you paid for. It would be a shame to cover it all up. Matte/Stealth is great at making boring colors look interesting, but that’s not what I’d go for with Cyber. Just my 2 cents!
Yeah after finally getting it out in some sun light it’s hard not to go with gloss
Could you have put in an M210 steel diff instead of the M190 aluminum? Also there’s a Teflon fix to the steering rack problem on TH-cam (it keeps the rack from jumping teeth)
I could have if I was able to find one that was geared the same but not a ton of them out there in the world yet. I have ordered the Broncbuster stuff already , both the steering rack fix and tie rod reinforcements so they will be going on as soon as they get delivered.
@@EvilleTruck I hear you…thanks for your honesty on the repairs.
@@EvilleTruck The M210 is steel and doesn't flex like the Aluminum 190's do. I honestly feel that even with better gears, the aluminum will flex and chew up expensive gears just the same. Good video, and props on the old school shop work!
Aluminum Deflects r&p gears strip why would they put the pinion in one half and the ring gear in other half bad design. They should have followed jeeps lead and ditched weak independent front for a solid axel .thought this was a Bronco not a jackass donkey ford failed bye puting a rack a pinion steering in it too .I'm am disappointed based off a ranger/escape lame looks cool but isn't tuff too bad
@@erichaynes9732 Its strange, almost as though the gears were not hardened. Aluminum is definitely not the way to go.
Man I was hoping you would have It fixed for the new years ride I was looking forward to seeing it in action I have a bronco but mine is a little bit older it's a 1978 when the warranty is over on yours you should solid axle swap it interlake is hard on equipment but it's fun
Was hoping to as well but was still rolling around on the ground in the garage.
Gloss. You paid for the shine - don't hide it!
Gloss for sure.
That shirt 😂
What ever happen to ford and the warranty claim? I recently busted something similar like u just driving down the road while it was snowing and put it in goat mode slippery and heard a big bank and clanking. Now it’s in ford for warranty claim
Ford denied the claim which I expected, luckily I was able to find a replacement FDU from someone that was doing a solid axle swap and no longer needed theirs.
go with gloss. The stealth is kind of an outgoing fad. new ring and pinion, bearings and rebuild the carrier and it should go back together fine
HOW MUCH WERE THE PARTS U BROKE?
I got lucky and got them from another owner that is doing a solid axle swap on their Bronco for an awesome deal. To order it directly from Ford would have been 2k-3k
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Excellent video. You've got a sub from me!
Thank you very much!
Gloss!
You did it real good that's for sure. Watching the teeth of that ring gear fall out was a cringe moment.
Stealth
I came right in time to help, not!. Lol always ask if you need some help!
I’m assuming because you’re not complaining in the video even though this is the 4th time you’ve done this (that the parts arnt complete crap?) and you are just a hardcore off-road guy…?
I’m scared because i ordered a Badlands Bronco… 😅
II have had everything apart a couple of times changing out parts and doing lifts this is first time replacing something that broke. and that broke under not so normal conditions, also this was the weaker of the gearboxes your badlands has the stronger one so should be ok, just don't go speeding into mud wholes way to fas at a bad angle and you will be ok.
Gloss
Those things are definitely not built ford tough
yeah, doen't help when you drive it like an idiot either, but still a bit more damage then expected.
I think this was the problem with your rack: th-cam.com/video/F0H-6Vx8Ui8/w-d-xo.html . Ignore the thumbnail, that wasn't the mode of failure, it's just for views i assume.
yeah assuming so as well, already ordered their fix as well as their tie rod braces.
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Arnge
hahaha I can't help it drives my wife crazy the way I pronounce orange
cyber orange benefits a lot from the light reflections that the stealth mutes too much I feel. I would go gloss with any of the metallic paints.
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