As an Alfa Romeo owner, I can say the quality issue reputation was well earned for the first couple of model years. Once you get to 2018 and on they've worked out the bugs and problems and have a reliable car. That goes for the Stelvio too!
That's the thing that's so hard (like I say later in the video): It's a MOUNTAIN to climb once you have that reputation. People just don't know until the cars prove themselves long-term. Good choice! Hope you love your car!
Agreed. I have Toreno White Pearl Ti Sport, with black 5 hole rims. slammed, 3 inch exhaust, intake, tune and custom rear carbon diffuser. This car is amazing, even with some of the minor issue. Also, the ZF 8 speed with the paddle shifters, dominates. I don;t miss a manual in this car.
I wonder how long from the sale it took for problems to drop up with the first three model years? Have the 2019+ not been on the road long enough to show problems?
@@MichaelAMangone Check the Giulia forums. No major issues (and few small ones), especially in the 2019 - current model years. What Alfa should have done is idemnify the buyers with a class-leading warranty on the car from the first model year. That worked well for Hyundai/Kia.
I’ve got the 2018 Giulia Quadrifoglio and reliability has been bulletproof for the last five years. No issues whatsoever and it’s a true riot to pilot.
I’m 64 years old and never thought I would own an Alfa. Then in 2020 I leased a Giulia TI Sport. I have never enjoyed a car more than this one. It’s been very reliable. After my lease was up I purchased the car and got a MOPAR extended Warranty. I belong to the Alfa owners group and enjoy the camaraderie with other owners. Let me end with this, it’s a great car and worth every penny!! Just drive it and you are sold.
This is the most balanced and smartest analysis I’ve seen on the history of the Giulia. The best sport sedan, with this magic only the Italians know how to do, but spoiled by unacceptable reliability upon launch. After a life of driving Volkswagens and then Audis, I just got a 2024 Giulia Competizione. I checked that its reliability is now acceptable and it’s a treat to drive every single time. If only it had been properly sorted from the start, it might have been the commercial success it deserves to be. I’m now hooked, and I hope that Alfa will stay in the Canadian and American market for the long term, but this would mean that Stellantis will have to listen to your review. Well done.
Love the passion and a generally fair if perhaps harsh assessment. I have a late 2018 QV on 60k miles that I drive to Italy every year and it is the most amazing car I have ever owned - every mile is a joy to be behind the wheel. It shrinks distances happily covering 500 + miles in a day and I'm not just talking motorways. It has never let me down - the few things that have failed have been sorted under the original and subsequent official Alfa warranties. It remains the best looking four door car saloon / sedan on the market - by miles! If you want a TV screen / ipad in your car then don't buy a Giulia - I hate these things so love the analogue feel, easy to use switches and driver focused controls. Forza Quadrifoglio - get one while you can!
I have the 2020. 31k miles. In the shop for 4 days for engine mount leak. Small price to pay for a car that is so much better than anything I've ever owned. Your results at 1700 miles is not typical.
I never said it's typical - I said it impacts people's opinions and worries about the car. I also said it's a top-tier, absolutely amazing vehicle. Glad you love yours
My Yu-Gi-Oh shirt is the most obvious part of my outfit here, but if you look closely, I have matching shoes (one Blue-Eyes White Dragon on each shoe) and Dodge Demon earrings (Stellantis bros)
Nice review,,,,I have a ‘24 QV and love it. Yes I’m finding It has its quirks and a super laggy infotainment system but after driving M cars for over 20 years, I’ve found this car has a performance aspect like no other.
@@AlanisKing Some of us older buyers could care less about infotainment, especially when car makers force you to do simple changes when driving using the screens instead of knobs.
@@rlsedition I like the Giulia in-dash design and look of the screen as well as having true buttons present for climate control. All cars these days have dashboards with either computer screens in tandem or iPads placed on the top sticking above the dash. BMWs design is terrible now and in recent models. All I’m wanting in a $90k car that’s been around for 8 years is to have a fluid nav screen. That’s my one problem with the car otherwise it’s a masterpiece.
Great review. I've had my Carbon edition QV for 2 months and it's such a joy to drive. It doesn't do stop and go traffic all that well, always comes to a stop rather abruptly. But open road, or even on ramps, you can hit triple digits easily without even noticing. I adore the car and yes I will likely take a massive depreciation hit but I do not expect to sell it for a LONG time so who cares.
Hi Alanis! I have never seen one of these cars in person where I live. It seems like a really fun car to drive, maybe I'll go to a Alfa Romeo dealer in San Diego one day and test drive one. 😁
My first car was a 1973 Fiat X19. I loved that little car, but I never left home without an extra set of spark plugs and a prayer book. It left me stranded more often than not. "Fix it again, Tony" is a real thing. That being said, I'd probably be willing to sacrifice reliability for that Guilia.Quad
@@AlanisKing I owned (2) X 1/9s, a 1974 and a 1979. That first model year car had some issues, but it was well worth the trouble, as the drive was great! The 1979 was much better from a reliability standpoint.
Alanis and an Alfa! It's funny because I seen this car on Amazon Prime's The Grand Tour and Jeremy Clarkson was raving all over this car! I love the fact you kept it 100 with the not so pretty back story! Love it Alanis! Keep it coming!
I like how you made the review unique by addressing the reliability issue head-on. Most reviewers are scared to layout the real criticism of a vehicle for fear of backlash from the OEM or fanbase. But it gives you real credibility in the streets.
2020 Giulia owner here. Ti Sport Nero. 45k miles and no major issues to report. Yes, there was a faulty o-ring that cased oil to get into the cooling system, but that was an easy fix. Did my o-rings fail in my 2014 4runner with 170000 miles? LOL of course not. So, Italian, yes, but it's worth it. The Giulia is the most underrated car on the market. The column mounted paddle shifters are awesome too. The car is quiet, light, nimble, and still faster than you need it to be.
I have the Stelvio Quadrifolgio and I absolutely love it in every way. I havent had any real issues with quality or things breaking, it sounds incredible and the design is gorgeous. But yeah, I NEVER see another Quadrifolgio in the wild, they just dont exist in very high numbers.
@@davidfkatz I don't doubt the QV is actually worth the price premium, but since you can't use al that extra power on most public roads in the US, that makes the difference in both power and price debatable. I admit I also have a Ducati sport bike in the garage, so my need for speed is assuaged by the bike.
@@rlsedition I feel you. I have a V4R, diavel and multistrada and definitely get more speed thrills from those. The feel and handling on the Alfa are really special though. Not sure what I’d replace it with, and the options that are appealing are more than twice the price of the Alfa. But, I don’t disagree that your point actually is the more rational and smart way to view it :-)
Bought my 2018 new in June 2018. Had one fuel injector replaced in 2022. That’s it. Been flawless otherwise. The cluster awning squeaked when my car was fairly new. Tech at the dealership added a small piece of foam cushioning and it hasn’t made a sound since. Also the sound on the passenger side is probably just the seat belt buckle hitting something. Move it. My car is silent on the inside. Great video, btw. Subscribed
@yendor86 There are a few Alfa workshop in the US with good reputation keeping older models (GTVs, Milanos and 164) alive. They might turn to these newer models as well when the time tells. And because of the former FCA now Stellantis owning the brand the source of the parts is still clearer than for those old guys mentioned above who were the orphans of the once standalone company called Alfa Romeo.
The whole Giorgio chassis is awesome! That's why the models with the 2.0L turbo four-cylinder are also excellent drivers cars. As a owner of a 2022 Giulia Veloce Q4, I can confirm this. A fantastic car in almost every way. Only 280 instead of 520 hp, but the driving pleasure and first-class handling are also there.
Got a 2019 QV. Car is so good I bought it once the lease was up. It’s a keeper and I don’t use it anymore as a daily in order to preserve it. There will never be a car like that again. In terms of vibe it is actually closer to a Ferrari FF than to an M3 or AMG. Oh and: zero issues. Had a 991 before that was a pita in that regard.
Im on my second one now absolutly love it,best car i have ever owned.sold an R35 Nissan to buy this no regrets.7mins 32 around the Nurenburg.its the nuts.
Would you confirm the feat for poor reliability? i try to gather facts for a few months now, and I can't say that there's anything wrong with this car QV or not. Electronics get more complicated and demanding which reduce the reliability score, but mechanically I can't see anything noticeable. There are some misadventures from time to time, but is it not the case with most cars?
@@igorsc.1606 it’s hit or miss. No fatal or major mechanical issues but a few weird electrical bugs that a new battery fixed. Nothing crazy. But maintenance on them is wildly expensive.
Well done, Alanis! This was such a fun video, it felt like a documentary and car review rolled into one. Keep up the good work, can't wait for the next one.
I freaking love this channel. This was a really good episode, although I’m biased since I work on the Alfa US website lol. Overall though this was a really well made show, great job Alanis :) I bet you’ll have 500,000 subs by christmas
I have had one for nearly 39k mi. with 0 issues (software updates). I think journalists should note this. It is a beautiful Italian rocket ship with the spirit of a Ferrari. A true classic. I love the 2018 with the white and green stitching. I wouldn’t be surprised if they grow in popularity over time.
It's true, after the first year 2017, it was much more solid! I have the 2018 Ti Sport with the LSD and active Suspension.. 30k on the clock and no issues at all! Fun as hell to drive and awesome to keep up with Porsche Caymans on the mountains! :)
I love the new logo! This was very solid review … I personally appreciate the focus on Power to Weight Ratio as I feel like that goes under noticed. The camera shots were top notch (kudos!) And once again interior comes into conversation, would love a good video on that. Seems like all too often the interior of a performance car is compared to cars of similar price points that are not performance oriented, so in car the money goes for the performance but in that other the money can go to the interior. Seems like there should be an allowance of sorts. And who, if anyone, is making an enthusiast’s car that delivers an interior that is on par with a non-performance car of the similar price point? Thanks !! 👊🏻😎
You're so right about interior. It can get really overlooked in performance cars! I wish it didn't, because it would be a huge benefit to have a better interior
I must say, im impressed with this format and presentation. This is example of good review and amazing storytelling. I would love to see more video like this. Instantly subscribed to this channel!
Ahhh thank you so much! Most of our car reviews are like this (with the occasional more laid-back one). If you ever want to binge those, it helps us out! But no pressure 🤠
Had a veloce Giulia for 6 yrs, no problems whatsoever. Had my QV for a year no problems. Over the years has a 33ti, 156 veloce, gtv 3.0, gt 3.2 and 159 ti only thing that ever went wrong was a mass flow controller on the gtv 3.0 - which was made by Bosch! Look after them and keep properly serviced and you'll be fine
After owning a bunch of Japanese cars, I am working down the reliability ladder to build up the courage to buy a (used) Giulia. currently own a VW GTI. 26k miles total, no issues so far, knocking on wood. I am doing the same exercise with motorcycle. Went from japanese rides to a KTM.
Great review as always. Interesting car that likely to go quietly into the night in the next year or two as Stellantis retrenches. Great work Alanis in building a community with you channel. Well done!
My Giulia might have been in the shop for the past week but god dammit I love it. I’m not kidding, this is not satire. Though it is funny. It has only 14k miles, it’s a 2019. My last 2017 Giulia had less issues in its defense.
22:53 As someone once said "You buy an Alfa Romeo with your heart, not your brain." Besides the reliability, there's 2 things that, I believe, also contributed for "no one" buying the Giulia, especially in Europe: The lack of a station wagon body type, or Sportwagon as Alfa used to call them and a sportier version of said Sportwagon, let's call it a Giulia SW Quadrifoglio. Every German brand has a wagon. Even Genesis purposely created a G70 Shooting Brake. Why no Sportwagon, Alfa!?
I remember when this one first hit the showroom at my local Alfa dealer. One of the best looking cars I'd seen in many years ❤️💔. Walking in to check it out i made it clear i wasn't a buyer.....but man that salesman gave it his all!.... he wasted no time in touting how much better it was than the M5. He sh*t all over that car, and the BMW dealer was almost right across the street! 😅. Regarding the interior fit and finish and reliability..........in the words of Maurizio Arrivabene, "it's all just a big emotion". I mean, it's Italian....you can't expect it to light your pants on fire, AND get you home 😏😎🤷
Well, here in Spain we have 2.2 Diesel manual Giulia’s, there are awesome, as long that you get one by a lease plan on something with maintenance included 😂
Great review Alanis. Documentary and review in one factual and entertaining podcast. Kudos. Everything you said applies here in Australia. For what it’s worth my 2017 Giulia quattroformaggio has been so good, I traded my Maserati Levante for a Stelvio Quattroformaggio. Perhaps you should have added the cautionary tale of becoming an Alfaholic. I seriously find it out to enjoy other makes and vehicles now. I am now an Alfa addict.😅
Owned lots of cars over the years including the bench mark (BMW M). Currently on our third Alfa and absolutely love it regardless of its quirks. The 2.0 versions we've owned have been flawless, my QV's only issue came from a dealership error, I refuse to listen to journalists who have to make headlines and share abused press cars.
Hey there! I love the Giulia. But the headlines are an important part of the story, whether you agree with them or not. You can't deny that they impact the general public's perception of the car, and this video is about that
@@AlanisKing I agreed but journalists love headlines that can be misleading. It's how they get attention to their articles. Journalists should also be more honest and let people know that they beat dog crap out of cars because they can and don't foot the bill. 1000 miles by even an enthusiast is nowhere close 1000 miles on a press car. I don't deny that the QV has its quirks but I've been on several long road trips and no issues. With that said I enjoyed the video and the enthusiasm you have for QV.
I have an '18 Giulia QV with 15k miles. It's had the transmission computer and valve body replaced, the oil level sensor replaced and the evap leak pump replaced twice. A failed fuel pump stranded me on the side of the road once. Like a lot of modern cars, it’s exquisitely sensitive to battery voltage. I think the auto stop/start trashes the battery. I would replace it prophylactically every few years even though it's an AGM. It throws codes wildly. The dash will light up and then on the next start, the codes magically disappear? I carry a cheap Autel code reader on board to clear codes on the fly. The infotainment system is subpar compared to BMW. My wife won't drive it because of the perceived unreliability. I would highly recommend the MOPAR extended warranty for about $160/month and $200 deductible. However, the Sparco seats are very supportive although not as bolstered as a real track seat, the acceleration is ferocious, the exhaust glorious and the 8HP75 is lightning fast for a hydraulic auto. The electronic TV differential is noisy when cold but puts the power down very nicely exiting turns and has never overheated during track days. The stability control is exceptional. It's very light for a modern car. The front axle is the best I've ever driven by a wide margin compared to M3's, GT3RS, 488, Huracan and McLaren. If you like straight lines, there are faster cars these days but if you like turning, the Giulia is outstanding and a joy to drive. Stellantis unfortunately no longer brings the CCM brake package to the US. I haven't heard a straight answer as to why? While they are controversial and take a few stops to warm up in the morning, they are very good on track as they don't fade and are very durable. Unfortunately, the caliper powder coat does fade from the repeated heat cycles. I wish Brembo had anodized or chromed calipers available like AP Racing. I think the feel of the Continental brake by wire system is acceptable. The other big concern is Alfa's slowing US sales as it's hard to support a national dealer network with ~4800 units sold YTD. Alfa's have the potential to once again become orphan cars. Realistically, it's not a car for the mainstream because of the expense of the warranty and the need to have another car to actually go anywhere while it spends a month the shop. It's also nice to have a dealer nearby because you will be visiting often. It sometimes takes multiple visits to the dealer to fix one problem but they do eventually get it right. Ownership doesn't really make sense unless the art of driving is your passion. The Giulia QV is one of the great driver focused cars of automotive history. I always look back with a really big smile after I park it! Despite the problems, I feel honored to own a QV. It's a very special car.
So, we just came back from Italy, where we spent three weeks on vacation. While we saw a few Giulias on the road, most were driven by law enforcement. Aside from Fiats, most I-plated cars on the Autostradas were German and French models. Honestly, saw more newer M3s and RS4s (all Avants) than Giulias. (Saw a few Guliettas though.) If Italians IN Italy aren’t really buying Alfas, that speaks volumes.
Dunno. Most of the Alfettas/75s/Milanos I saw there in the 90s were driven by Carabinieri. Saw a lot of Alfsuds in private hands. Expensive Alfa’s were always mainly for export.
@@BillLaBrie I am assuming they have a more pedestrian version for law enforcement use as this was the first time I'd seen a Giulia with single exhaust outlets. (Here in the states, they run a dual outlet system.)
@@AlanisKing Absolutely had a terrific time. We put about 4,000 km on our rental car, driving as far north as Morcote/Mennagio (Switzerland) to as far south as Sorrento. Became very familiar with driving the autostradas.....as well as paying a ton in tolls.
had mine for six years. fabulous car and experience. dealer network and parts availability was a disaster. waiting six months for spark plugs was a deal breaker for me.
Got a 2018 Ti Spot with Active Suspension and LSD. 30k on the clock and not a single issue! Much of my friends with 2.0s and QVs have also some pretty bullet proof cars. However, there is always 1 or 2 horror stories -- but there will always be a lemon here and there. Honestly I came from a 2014 3 series and thought the Alfa interior was much much better quality than the German rivals. The steering from the Alfa absolutely stole me away from my BMW preference since the first drive. And honestly, because of the "bad press" about reliability, I was able to get a hell of a deal vs a 330i! Nearly 10k less for a similarly optioned BMW so I am super happy. People love seeing the Alfa and always praises it. It's a hell of a looker and driver!
I absolutely love this car. Almost bought a 2021 Ti with almost no miles for 26k usd out the door. A steal! I just couldnt fathom what i would do if it broke.
I'm playing with the idea of picking up a 2020-ish Giulia Voloce. This has the 4-cylinder engine, but otherwise is pretty similar to the QV. Does anyone have any testimonials as to the reliability of this model?
Great content. Im glad to hear the reliability issues have hopefully been sorted out. Back in 2019, I test drove a Guila Quadrifoglio and loved it. I actually crossshopped with a Charger Hellcat...I know who does that? Both brands had sketchy reputations, and ultimately the Charger won out (Absolutely no issues in 35k miles). But I may have to revisit the Guila.
I live in Dallas. It's a city where there's a dealer for any car you want. There is no Alfa dealer in the city of Dallas. Used to be, but it closed in less than a year. I haven't seen a Giulia in months. This in a city where I see at least one Lambo a week, where BMW 3 series are like flies
Great review! Giulias aren't totally uncommon where I live, and they're always a welcome sight. Seems like a good car to Turo for a day or a weekend, if not own. Just make sure you have paid-up roadside assistance! Seriously, what a joy this car must be for owners who get a reliable one.
The Quad had issues but turbo 4 outside of battery has few problems. I would highly recommend one. They underrated power most have 305 which is plenty unless you drag race. However due to reputation can be found 20-25k. When my left knee can do manuals I plan to get another Guilia Veloce.
I test drove a 2018 I-4 Giulia and absolutely loved how it drove. Near the end of the test drive the check engine light came on. I bought a Ford Mustang instead.
Maybe they need a clear and well publicized bumper to bumper warranty campaign ala Hyundai 10 or so years ago. I think that has helped them overcome their quality and reliability perception issues. It is difficult to find detailed warranty information on the Alfa website.
Just think, we almost got Challengers and Chargers on this platform. That weight cut would have been AMAZING. I have a 2018 Ti q4. The AWD makes it an amazing winter car. Love the car. Had one issue recently with the BCM which is causing my headlights to be stuck on. I still need to drive to Vegas from Idaho to get fixed. That's the biggest issue with these, dealer network. That's the only problem I've had since taking delivery, but it's annoying because the dealer is 10 hours away.
For buying the car new, reliability figures might not be great, but I do think the Giulia makes an excellent second hand buy. From what I’ve read they’re pretty rugged/durable with the diesels racking up serious miles with barely an issue. BTW, I own a 2016 Giulia Q (manual!), cheapest Alfa in terms of maintenance I’ve ever had 🙂
As an Alfa Romeo owner, I can say the quality issue reputation was well earned for the first couple of model years. Once you get to 2018 and on they've worked out the bugs and problems and have a reliable car. That goes for the Stelvio too!
That's the thing that's so hard (like I say later in the video): It's a MOUNTAIN to climb once you have that reputation. People just don't know until the cars prove themselves long-term.
Good choice! Hope you love your car!
Agreed. I have Toreno White Pearl Ti Sport, with black 5 hole rims. slammed, 3 inch exhaust, intake, tune and custom rear carbon diffuser. This car is amazing, even with some of the minor issue. Also, the ZF 8 speed with the paddle shifters, dominates. I don;t miss a manual in this car.
I wonder how long from the sale it took for problems to drop up with the first three model years? Have the 2019+ not been on the road long enough to show problems?
@@MichaelAMangone Check the Giulia forums. No major issues (and few small ones), especially in the 2019 - current model years. What Alfa should have done is idemnify the buyers with a class-leading warranty on the car from the first model year. That worked well for Hyundai/Kia.
Customers are NOT beta testers.
I’ve got the 2018 Giulia Quadrifoglio and reliability has been bulletproof for the last five years. No issues whatsoever and it’s a true riot to pilot.
That's so awesome. I hope you love it for many years
I've got a 2017 Giulia QV, no issues yet. 70k miles.
@@MCgangsterhansany update now?
I had a 2017 too, and it was totally reliable. Now in a 2024. Better driver car than my Porsches, Ferraris and Jaguars!
I’m 64 years old and never thought I would own an Alfa. Then in 2020 I leased a Giulia TI Sport. I have never enjoyed a car more than this one. It’s been very reliable. After my lease was up I purchased the car and got a MOPAR extended Warranty. I belong to the Alfa owners group and enjoy the camaraderie with other owners. Let me end with this, it’s a great car and worth every penny!! Just drive it and you are sold.
That's so awesome! I'm glad you're loving it, David
@@AlanisKing By the way I watched some of your other videos and also loved them. I'm now a subscriber. Good luck and keep making great content!
Owned a 2021 Giulia Ti. Now have a 2022 Stelvio Veloce and 2023 Giulia QV. Best cars I have owned. Never disappointed.
That's so awesome
I unironically love this car. Also, props to your husband the editor for including classic Alfa Romeo video content.
🤝🤝🤝 thank you
This is the most balanced and smartest analysis I’ve seen on the history of the Giulia. The best sport sedan, with this magic only the Italians know how to do, but spoiled by unacceptable reliability upon launch. After a life of driving Volkswagens and then Audis, I just got a 2024 Giulia Competizione. I checked that its reliability is now acceptable and it’s a treat to drive every single time. If only it had been properly sorted from the start, it might have been the commercial success it deserves to be. I’m now hooked, and I hope that Alfa will stay in the Canadian and American market for the long term, but this would mean that Stellantis will have to listen to your review. Well done.
Thank you so much for watching, and thanks for saying this. I hope you love your Giulia for many years to come!
The Giulia gives off 1992-1998 BMW 3-series vibes ... those compact-sedan proportions are perfect 🤌🏼
Sooooo good
Love the passion and a generally fair if perhaps harsh assessment.
I have a late 2018 QV on 60k miles that I drive to Italy every year and it is the most amazing car I have ever owned - every mile is a joy to be behind the wheel. It shrinks distances happily covering 500 + miles in a day and I'm not just talking motorways.
It has never let me down - the few things that have failed have been sorted under the original and subsequent official Alfa warranties.
It remains the best looking four door car saloon / sedan on the market - by miles!
If you want a TV screen / ipad in your car then don't buy a Giulia - I hate these things so love the analogue feel, easy to use switches and driver focused controls.
Forza Quadrifoglio - get one while you can!
Awesome to hear that you're loving yours. It's such an amazing car. Here's to many more years of you in it!
I have the 2020. 31k miles. In the shop for 4 days for engine mount leak. Small price to pay for a car that is so much better than anything I've ever owned. Your results at 1700 miles is not typical.
I never said it's typical - I said it impacts people's opinions and worries about the car. I also said it's a top-tier, absolutely amazing vehicle. Glad you love yours
My Yu-Gi-Oh shirt is the most obvious part of my outfit here, but if you look closely, I have matching shoes (one Blue-Eyes White Dragon on each shoe) and Dodge Demon earrings (Stellantis bros)
I'm so glad millennials, and gen Z are coming into the mainstream, so things like Yu-Gi-Oh shirts are not so out of place.
Power move!! Haha
@@Dunwelll Hahahahaha me too!
@@Garage9D Just need some Polymerization jewelry
Rewatched the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh with my morning coffee recently, holds up even as an adult.
Nice review,,,,I have a ‘24 QV and love it. Yes I’m finding
It has its quirks and a super laggy infotainment system but after driving M cars for over 20 years, I’ve found this car has a performance aspect like no other.
You're so right. I hope you love it for a long time. The infotainment screen is so laggy!
@@AlanisKing Some of us older buyers could care less about infotainment, especially when car makers force you to do simple changes when driving using the screens instead of knobs.
@@rlsedition I like the Giulia in-dash design and look of the screen as well as having true buttons present for climate control. All cars these days have dashboards with either computer screens in tandem or iPads placed on the top sticking above the dash. BMWs design is terrible now and in recent models. All I’m wanting in a $90k car that’s been around for 8 years is to have a fluid nav screen. That’s my one problem with the car otherwise it’s a masterpiece.
Great review. I've had my Carbon edition QV for 2 months and it's such a joy to drive. It doesn't do stop and go traffic all that well, always comes to a stop rather abruptly. But open road, or even on ramps, you can hit triple digits easily without even noticing. I adore the car and yes I will likely take a massive depreciation hit but I do not expect to sell it for a LONG time so who cares.
That’s awesome. I’m so glad you’re loving it. Thanks for watching!
@@bobbyb69 actually they hold their value quite well, at least here in Germany
Hi Alanis! I have never seen one of these cars in person where I live. It seems like a really fun car to drive, maybe I'll go to a Alfa Romeo dealer in San Diego one day and test drive one. 😁
You absolutely should, Francisco! It's truly a magical experience to be in a Giulia Quad. Thank you so much always for your support
Another very welcome Alanis video. Always informative with great history, music and such a relaxed presentation style. Keep them coming.
Awwwww thank you so much, seriously
@@AlanisKingYou’re entirely welcome. Takes guts to strike out on your own.
Congrats for the pronunciation of Quadrifoglio. It ain’t easy.
Cheers from Italy
Thank you so much! Cheers from Texas!
I wonder how many people watch Alanis King solely for their "cute girl in trunk" kink needs 🤣 Awesome video!
I like to reach wide audiences
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I drove one of those a couple years ago in race mode. Absolutely terrifying, will break the tires loose at half throttle. Just a beast.
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My first car was a 1973 Fiat X19. I loved that little car, but I never left home without an extra set of spark plugs and a prayer book. It left me stranded more often than not. "Fix it again, Tony" is a real thing. That being said, I'd probably be willing to sacrifice reliability for that Guilia.Quad
I love that you've done it before and would do it again. Commitment
@@AlanisKing I owned (2) X 1/9s, a 1974 and a 1979. That first model year car had some issues, but it was well worth the trouble, as the drive was great! The 1979 was much better from a reliability standpoint.
This car is still the prettiest sedan built this century. I love looking at it, but scared to death to own one.
And that, right there, is the sad part
@@AlanisKing I've owned one for the last 3 years with zero issues. Don't be scared.
@@rlsedition Owned my Quadrifoglio since 2020, love it.
2017 delivered in December 2016 owner here, still own it, it's great, not many issues at all
Really glad to hear
@@AlanisKing it's the one Doug reviewed, I'm thinking he put his Blessing on the car 😂
Alanis and an Alfa! It's funny because I seen this car on Amazon Prime's The Grand Tour and Jeremy Clarkson was raving all over this car! I love the fact you kept it 100 with the not so pretty back story! Love it Alanis! Keep it coming!
Ahhhhh thank you so much, and thank you always for commenting!
I like how you made the review unique by addressing the reliability issue head-on. Most reviewers are scared to layout the real criticism of a vehicle for fear of backlash from the OEM or fanbase. But it gives you real credibility in the streets.
Appreciate you Lawrence 💚
2020 Giulia owner here. Ti Sport Nero. 45k miles and no major issues to report. Yes, there was a faulty o-ring that cased oil to get into the cooling system, but that was an easy fix. Did my o-rings fail in my 2014 4runner with 170000 miles? LOL of course not. So, Italian, yes, but it's worth it. The Giulia is the most underrated car on the market. The column mounted paddle shifters are awesome too. The car is quiet, light, nimble, and still faster than you need it to be.
Love this for you. That rocks
I have the Stelvio Quadrifolgio and I absolutely love it in every way. I havent had any real issues with quality or things breaking, it sounds incredible and the design is gorgeous. But yeah, I NEVER see another Quadrifolgio in the wild, they just dont exist in very high numbers.
That's awesome. Incredible choice
One of the reasons you don't them very often is the $90k pricing! I bought the 4-cyclinder and am very satisfied with it.
@@rlsedition I had the standard one before this, and the Q is definitely worth the price premium. It’s not the same car by far.
@@davidfkatz I don't doubt the QV is actually worth the price premium, but since you can't use al that extra power on most public roads in the US, that makes the difference in both power and price debatable. I admit I also have a Ducati sport bike in the garage, so my need for speed is assuaged by the bike.
@@rlsedition I feel you. I have a V4R, diavel and multistrada and definitely get more speed thrills from those. The feel and handling on the Alfa are really special though. Not sure what I’d replace it with, and the options that are appealing are more than twice the price of the Alfa. But, I don’t disagree that your point actually is the more rational and smart way to view it :-)
Bought my 2018 new in June 2018. Had one fuel injector replaced in 2022. That’s it. Been flawless otherwise. The cluster awning squeaked when my car was fairly new. Tech at the dealership added a small piece of foam cushioning and it hasn’t made a sound since. Also the sound on the passenger side is probably just the seat belt buckle hitting something. Move it. My car is silent on the inside. Great video, btw. Subscribed
Thank you so much for watching. Glad to hear yours has been great, and the little goal piece is a great idea! I hope everyone goes for that
@yendor86 There are a few Alfa workshop in the US with good reputation keeping older models (GTVs, Milanos and 164) alive. They might turn to these newer models as well when the time tells. And because of the former FCA now Stellantis owning the brand the source of the parts is still clearer than for those old guys mentioned above who were the orphans of the once standalone company called Alfa Romeo.
The whole Giorgio chassis is awesome!
That's why the models with the 2.0L turbo four-cylinder are also excellent drivers cars.
As a owner of a 2022 Giulia Veloce Q4, I can confirm this. A fantastic car in almost every way.
Only 280 instead of 520 hp, but the driving pleasure and first-class handling are also there.
Such a good car
This beauty was made 10 years ago... gosh, I'm old!
Me too!
First model year was 2017, 7 years ago not 10.
@@flacjacket 2016.
Watching 9 Underground made me fall in love with that car.
Miss the DRS, but I love your channel and your engagement is killer. Keep murdering it thumbs up
Ahhhh thank you. I miss it too!
Got a 2019 QV. Car is so good I bought it once the lease was up. It’s a keeper and I don’t use it anymore as a daily in order to preserve it. There will never be a car like that again. In terms of vibe it is actually closer to a Ferrari FF than to an M3 or AMG.
Oh and: zero issues. Had a 991 before that was a pita in that regard.
Awesome. That’s so great to hear. Hope you love it for a long time
@@AlanisKing that’s the plan :)
Strange, I owned a Quadrifoglio for 4 years and it was flawless. It was my daily car and it was so good I’ll very likely get another
That’s awesome! I hope you love the next one too
Im on my second one now absolutly love it,best car i have ever owned.sold an R35 Nissan to buy this no regrets.7mins 32 around the Nurenburg.its the nuts.
Great choice. It’s an amazing car
As a QV owner, this review is spot on.
Thanks for watching 🤠
Would you confirm the feat for poor reliability? i try to gather facts for a few months now, and I can't say that there's anything wrong with this car QV or not. Electronics get more complicated and demanding which reduce the reliability score, but mechanically I can't see anything noticeable. There are some misadventures from time to time, but is it not the case with most cars?
@@igorsc.1606 it’s hit or miss. No fatal or major mechanical issues but a few weird electrical bugs that a new battery fixed. Nothing crazy. But maintenance on them is wildly expensive.
I've got a Giulia Quad, and I 100000000% agree with everything in this review.
Hope you love it so much. Thanks for watching!
Alanis...fun video and a great honest review. Keep up the great job !!😊
Thank you SO much for always watching
One of your best yet.... the camera angles and use of gimbal are ace!
Thank you so much, truly
Agreed. It is Savage Geese level cinematography
What a well written, shot, and edited review. Presentation and research are also great and the whole thing is very polished. Brava!
Ahhhhh thanks so much Benjamin!
@@AlanisKing certainly! Also, I want to get one of these but that unreliability, yo. How did the four cylinder compare?
Well done, Alanis! This was such a fun video, it felt like a documentary and car review rolled into one. Keep up the good work, can't wait for the next one.
Ahhhhhhh thank you Marc, and thank you always for the support
Great video & presentation, I really enjoyed it.
Thank you : )
I freaking love this channel. This was a really good episode, although I’m biased since I work on the Alfa US website lol. Overall though this was a really well made show, great job Alanis :) I bet you’ll have 500,000 subs by christmas
This is sooooooo kind of you to say. Thank you. Truly
Defenelly
This video is the best of all you have done.
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you 🤠
Finally a detailed and accurate car review by a TH-camr.
Thanks for watching 🤠
I have had one for nearly 39k mi. with 0 issues (software updates). I think journalists should note this.
It is a beautiful Italian rocket ship with the spirit of a Ferrari. A true classic. I love the 2018 with the white and green stitching. I wouldn’t be surprised if they grow in popularity over time.
Your review is great Alanis. One of the best I’ve seen on the Quadrifoglio.
I'm so glad you love yours. It's an awesome car. Thank you for watching!
If I had money, this car would be a no-brainer.
Maybe the first year had more problem. I often hear people say their Giulia is rock sollid. ❤
I hope you can own one someday!
It's true, after the first year 2017, it was much more solid! I have the 2018 Ti Sport with the LSD and active Suspension.. 30k on the clock and no issues at all! Fun as hell to drive and awesome to keep up with Porsche Caymans on the mountains! :)
I love the new logo!
This was very solid review … I personally appreciate the focus on Power to Weight Ratio as I feel like that goes under noticed.
The camera shots were top notch (kudos!)
And once again interior comes into conversation, would love a good video on that.
Seems like all too often the interior of a performance car is compared to cars of similar price points that are not performance oriented, so in car the money goes for the performance but in that other the money can go to the interior. Seems like there should be an allowance of sorts.
And who, if anyone, is making an enthusiast’s car that delivers an interior that is on par with a non-performance car of the similar price point?
Thanks !!
👊🏻😎
You're so right about interior. It can get really overlooked in performance cars! I wish it didn't, because it would be a huge benefit to have a better interior
I must say, im impressed with this format and presentation. This is example of good review and amazing storytelling. I would love to see more video like this. Instantly subscribed to this channel!
Ahhh thank you so much! Most of our car reviews are like this (with the occasional more laid-back one). If you ever want to binge those, it helps us out! But no pressure 🤠
2017 manual QV owner, no issues so far. Maintenance and sensible useage is key.
Glad to hear it's going great for you. Hope you love the car for many years to come
Beautiful car, love the info! great video, very polished and fun to listen to. thank you for your work! :)
Ahhhhhh thank you so much!
Had a veloce Giulia for 6 yrs, no problems whatsoever. Had my QV for a year no problems. Over the years has a 33ti, 156 veloce, gtv 3.0, gt 3.2 and 159 ti only thing that ever went wrong was a mass flow controller on the gtv 3.0 - which was made by Bosch! Look after them and keep properly serviced and you'll be fine
Glad you’ve gotten to enjoy so many!
@AlanisKing comes with age ☹️
I've been in love with this Italian since day one.
I don't care about reliability but I wish it were a midsize sedan for practicality.
Very fair
After owning a bunch of Japanese cars, I am working down the reliability ladder to build up the courage to buy a (used) Giulia. currently own a VW GTI. 26k miles total, no issues so far, knocking on wood. I am doing the same exercise with motorcycle. Went from japanese rides to a KTM.
I LOVE this idea. Slow doses!
I, too, owned a GTI prior to m y Giulia. I loved both, but, as you would expect, the drive in the Giulia is much better.
The blue eyes white dragon shirt was the first thing I noticed. Never see a yu gi oh fans.
Thank you 🤝🤝🤝
Great review as always.
Interesting car that likely to go quietly into the night in the next year or two as Stellantis retrenches.
Great work Alanis in building a community with you channel. Well done!
Awwww thank you so much Jeff, I appreciate it
I see Giulias around me all the time in NC. When I lived in Michigan I never saw them.
I’ll have to look next time I’m in NC!
Congratulations on pronouncing the Quadrifoglio correctly. I think your the only reviewer to do so
It's my honor and duty
Such a gorgeous car, hell yeah
Hell yeah. Agree
You definitely will impress your buddies with the Quadrifoglio, especially after they hear the exhaust.
Yes
That rattle on the passenger side was likely the metal part of the seat belt against the carbon of the seat. Had the same issue in mine.
It was much more dull sounding in mine!
My Giulia might have been in the shop for the past week but god dammit I love it.
I’m not kidding, this is not satire.
Though it is funny.
It has only 14k miles, it’s a 2019.
My last 2017 Giulia had less issues in its defense.
Glad it’s back. Enjoy it!
Great review... loved the presentation style.
Thank you so much. Means a lot
@@AlanisKing You're welcome. Even after watching many, many reviews on the Alfa QV all pushing out the same info yours was just, different.
@@AlanisKing .... and you managed to pronounce 'Quadrifoglio' correctly which many reviewers seem unable to do.
The Giorgio platform is nearly perfect
22:53 As someone once said "You buy an Alfa Romeo with your heart, not your brain." Besides the reliability, there's 2 things that, I believe, also contributed for "no one" buying the Giulia, especially in Europe: The lack of a station wagon body type, or Sportwagon as Alfa used to call them and a sportier version of said Sportwagon, let's call it a Giulia SW Quadrifoglio. Every German brand has a wagon. Even Genesis purposely created a G70 Shooting Brake. Why no Sportwagon, Alfa!?
Can you imagine how beautiful a wagon would be
This car in Montreal Green is a total dream
The green is sooooo good
Didn't know you had a channel. I always liked your articles in Jalopnik
Omg! Thanks for being here 🤠
Oh, this is husband why luckiest guys around definitely won the lottery❤
Husband filmed and edited this cool video too!
Did he pinch your butt while you were driving the Alfa ?? 😊
I remember when this one first hit the showroom at my local Alfa dealer. One of the best looking cars I'd seen in many years ❤️💔. Walking in to check it out i made it clear i wasn't a buyer.....but man that salesman gave it his all!.... he wasted no time in touting how much better it was than the M5. He sh*t all over that car, and the BMW dealer was almost right across the street! 😅.
Regarding the interior fit and finish and reliability..........in the words of Maurizio Arrivabene, "it's all just a big emotion". I mean, it's Italian....you can't expect it to light your pants on fire, AND get you home 😏😎🤷
Hahahahah you're so right!
2017 owner 70k no issues ❤
That rocks. Hope you love it for a long time
Well, here in Spain we have 2.2 Diesel manual Giulia’s, there are awesome, as long that you get one by a lease plan on something with maintenance included 😂
Sounds amazing
Yay, I've been waiting for this one!
Me too. Been so excited. Thanks for watching!
Great review Alanis. Documentary and review in one factual and entertaining podcast. Kudos.
Everything you said applies here in Australia.
For what it’s worth my 2017 Giulia quattroformaggio has been so good, I traded my Maserati Levante for a Stelvio Quattroformaggio.
Perhaps you should have added the cautionary tale of becoming an Alfaholic.
I seriously find it out to enjoy other makes and vehicles now.
I am now an Alfa addict.😅
That’s so awesome. I’m glad you’re loving your cars - that’s what it’s all about!
Owned lots of cars over the years including the bench mark (BMW M). Currently on our third Alfa and absolutely love it regardless of its quirks. The 2.0 versions we've owned have been flawless, my QV's only issue came from a dealership error, I refuse to listen to journalists who have to make headlines and share abused press cars.
Hey there! I love the Giulia. But the headlines are an important part of the story, whether you agree with them or not. You can't deny that they impact the general public's perception of the car, and this video is about that
@@AlanisKing I agreed but journalists love headlines that can be misleading. It's how they get attention to their articles. Journalists should also be more honest and let people know that they beat dog crap out of cars because they can and don't foot the bill. 1000 miles by even an enthusiast is nowhere close 1000 miles on a press car. I don't deny that the QV has its quirks but I've been on several long road trips and no issues. With that said I enjoyed the video and the enthusiasm you have for QV.
The cut off’s were a fine compliment to the voice of experience.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell if people are being sarcastic, so I’m going to say thank you either way 🤠
I see them all over Los Angeles, literally every day
Not in Texas! Or many places I visit
I have an '18 Giulia QV with 15k miles. It's had the transmission computer and valve body replaced, the oil level sensor replaced and the evap leak pump replaced twice. A failed fuel pump stranded me on the side of the road once. Like a lot of modern cars, it’s exquisitely sensitive to battery voltage. I think the auto stop/start trashes the battery. I would replace it prophylactically every few years even though it's an AGM. It throws codes wildly. The dash will light up and then on the next start, the codes magically disappear? I carry a cheap Autel code reader on board to clear codes on the fly. The infotainment system is subpar compared to BMW. My wife won't drive it because of the perceived unreliability. I would highly recommend the MOPAR extended warranty for about $160/month and $200 deductible.
However, the Sparco seats are very supportive although not as bolstered as a real track seat, the acceleration is ferocious, the exhaust glorious and the 8HP75 is lightning fast for a hydraulic auto. The electronic TV differential is noisy when cold but puts the power down very nicely exiting turns and has never overheated during track days. The stability control is exceptional. It's very light for a modern car. The front axle is the best I've ever driven by a wide margin compared to M3's, GT3RS, 488, Huracan and McLaren. If you like straight lines, there are faster cars these days but if you like turning, the Giulia is outstanding and a joy to drive.
Stellantis unfortunately no longer brings the CCM brake package to the US. I haven't heard a straight answer as to why? While they are controversial and take a few stops to warm up in the morning, they are very good on track as they don't fade and are very durable. Unfortunately, the caliper powder coat does fade from the repeated heat cycles. I wish Brembo had anodized or chromed calipers available like AP Racing. I think the feel of the Continental brake by wire system is acceptable.
The other big concern is Alfa's slowing US sales as it's hard to support a national dealer network with ~4800 units sold YTD. Alfa's have the potential to once again become orphan cars.
Realistically, it's not a car for the mainstream because of the expense of the warranty and the need to have another car to actually go anywhere while it spends a month the shop. It's also nice to have a dealer nearby because you will be visiting often. It sometimes takes multiple visits to the dealer to fix one problem but they do eventually get it right. Ownership doesn't really make sense unless the art of driving is your passion. The Giulia QV is one of the great driver focused cars of automotive history. I always look back with a really big smile after I park it! Despite the problems, I feel honored to own a QV. It's a very special car.
This was such an interesting comment to read. Thanks for writing it. I hope the car treats you well for years to come!
This is a great sounding car, every time I talk myself out of ever owning one, a video like this comes out..then I want one again! 😻🤌
Hahahaha I'm sorry! I timed it just right, it seems
moving to germany in the not too distant future. i'd love to start the search for a nice clean manual Quadrifoglio 😎
Omgggggg
So, we just came back from Italy, where we spent three weeks on vacation. While we saw a few Giulias on the road, most were driven by law enforcement.
Aside from Fiats, most I-plated cars on the Autostradas were German and French models. Honestly, saw more newer M3s and RS4s (all Avants) than Giulias. (Saw a few Guliettas though.)
If Italians IN Italy aren’t really buying Alfas, that speaks volumes.
I hope Italy was lovely!
Dunno. Most of the Alfettas/75s/Milanos I saw there in the 90s were driven by Carabinieri. Saw a lot of Alfsuds in private hands. Expensive Alfa’s were always mainly for export.
@@BillLaBrie I am assuming they have a more pedestrian version for law enforcement use as this was the first time I'd seen a Giulia with single exhaust outlets. (Here in the states, they run a dual outlet system.)
@@AlanisKing Absolutely had a terrific time. We put about 4,000 km on our rental car, driving as far north as Morcote/Mennagio (Switzerland) to as far south as Sorrento. Became very familiar with driving the autostradas.....as well as paying a ton in tolls.
@@MidnightAspec Yes, they were small bore variants.
Another great review on a car I have loved and admired from a distance as the reliability has always scared me.
Thank you sooooo much for watching
had mine for six years. fabulous car and experience. dealer network and parts availability was a disaster. waiting six months for spark plugs was a deal breaker for me.
Nooooooo I'm so sorry
Got a 2018 Ti Spot with Active Suspension and LSD. 30k on the clock and not a single issue! Much of my friends with 2.0s and QVs have also some pretty bullet proof cars. However, there is always 1 or 2 horror stories -- but there will always be a lemon here and there. Honestly I came from a 2014 3 series and thought the Alfa interior was much much better quality than the German rivals. The steering from the Alfa absolutely stole me away from my BMW preference since the first drive. And honestly, because of the "bad press" about reliability, I was able to get a hell of a deal vs a 330i! Nearly 10k less for a similarly optioned BMW so I am super happy. People love seeing the Alfa and always praises it. It's a hell of a looker and driver!
Steering is sooooo good
I absolutely love this car. Almost bought a 2021 Ti with almost no miles for 26k usd out the door. A steal! I just couldnt fathom what i would do if it broke.
It’s such a lovely car. Just so good
I’m disappointed Alanis, a whole review about an Italian car and not one use of “Nessun Dorma”
I promise to do better
Such a beautiful car!
Totally agree
Very good review, Alanis. 👍
Thank you so much for watching : )
I'm playing with the idea of picking up a 2020-ish Giulia Voloce. This has the 4-cylinder engine, but otherwise is pretty similar to the QV. Does anyone have any testimonials as to the reliability of this model?
Great review. The turn signals are also annoying, but the drive is special.
Thank you for watching : )
Great review. Beautiful car, great performance and sound. I'd rather get a Cadillac for less or as much as this, plus I'd get a manual transmission.
I absolutely LOVE the CT5-V Blacking
Bought my Giulia last month. I'm aware of the rep and at peace with it. Did buy extended warrant though. yolo
Hell yeah! Enjoy
Great content. Im glad to hear the reliability issues have hopefully been sorted out. Back in 2019, I test drove a Guila Quadrifoglio and loved it. I actually crossshopped with a Charger Hellcat...I know who does that? Both brands had sketchy reputations, and ultimately the Charger won out (Absolutely no issues in 35k miles). But I may have to revisit the Guila.
Chargers are so fun! Thank you for watching
I live in Dallas. It's a city where there's a dealer for any car you want. There is no Alfa dealer in the city of Dallas. Used to be, but it closed in less than a year. I haven't seen a Giulia in months. This in a city where I see at least one Lambo a week, where BMW 3 series are like flies
😞😞😞
Great review! Giulias aren't totally uncommon where I live, and they're always a welcome sight. Seems like a good car to Turo for a day or a weekend, if not own. Just make sure you have paid-up roadside assistance! Seriously, what a joy this car must be for owners who get a reliable one.
It’s so amazing. Thank you for watching!
The Quad had issues but turbo 4 outside of battery has few problems. I would highly recommend one. They underrated power most have 305 which is plenty unless you drag race. However due to reputation can be found 20-25k. When my left knee can do manuals I plan to get another Guilia Veloce.
Cool thumbnail Alanis. I thought you dropped a diss track or something
Thank you! Which one did you get? We're thumbnail testing and actually have three!
@@AlanisKing the one which one has Alanis sitting on the hood. Keep that. It looks really cool
Love it. Thank you!
The distance between Alfa Romeo & Mazda in many ways is shockingly short (this is a good thing!)
Love Mazdas (and Alfas)
A Mazda is an Alfa that runs.
I short listed a Stelvio Quad. The lack of dealer support was a big concern. Closest dealer is 2 1/2 hours away. Went with a Porsche because of it.
That’s super fair!
I thankfully have 3 within an hour.
I test drove a 2018 I-4 Giulia and absolutely loved how it drove. Near the end of the test drive the check engine light came on. I bought a Ford Mustang instead.
Noooooo omg. Mustang is great though!
Never watched your channel before. Love the girl next door vibe. Enjoyed your opinion of the vehicle
Thank you so much for watching!
Are the seats very comfortable
Maybe they need a clear and well publicized bumper to bumper warranty campaign ala Hyundai 10 or so years ago. I think that has helped them overcome their quality and reliability perception issues. It is difficult to find detailed warranty information on the Alfa website.
Yes. You’re so right. That’s how you successfully rebound
Just think, we almost got Challengers and Chargers on this platform. That weight cut would have been AMAZING. I have a 2018 Ti q4. The AWD makes it an amazing winter car. Love the car. Had one issue recently with the BCM which is causing my headlights to be stuck on. I still need to drive to Vegas from Idaho to get fixed. That's the biggest issue with these, dealer network. That's the only problem I've had since taking delivery, but it's annoying because the dealer is 10 hours away.
Hope you love your car for many years to come. It rocks
For buying the car new, reliability figures might not be great, but I do think the Giulia makes an excellent second hand buy. From what I’ve read they’re pretty rugged/durable with the diesels racking up serious miles with barely an issue.
BTW, I own a 2016 Giulia Q (manual!), cheapest Alfa in terms of maintenance I’ve ever had 🙂
Manual Giulia! Yes!