@@saphireg8094I’m looking for mini Led and the x95k is topping my list. The 65inch is at $1,799 currently but all the blooming heavy blooming talk has me hesitate. Going mini led over other tech is just my circumstances. Yet I’d like to get the best there in. Any further thoughts beyond what you have already mentioned?
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I'm seriously considering getting the LG 65QNED866QA, was hoping you'd review it, there aren't any reviews out there for it. I can't go OLED cos of the burn in risk, (it will be used as a secondary monitor). Very curious how many dimming zones it has, and how it performs.
@@ytglenn Based FlatpanelsHD's TV index, QNED86 & QNED85 appear to be identical (the former being the EU version), so you can rely on my QNED85 review as a proxy for your decision whether to buy the QNED86.
Love the videos! Question - Im looking at the 86QNED80AQA at Costco. Im really confused on if its good or not. Is it not as good or just as good as the QNED85?
I had my parents buy a qn90 2021 has they needed fantastic reflection handling. It was also on sale and compared to my q80r it is even better. I love my q80r but qn90 is spectacular.
Corner light leakage is the biggest concern. So glad you pointed it out. The 75" QNED85 currently being on sale at a big box store for $1599 made me wonder what the catch is.
It looked impressive in the warehouse club, but couldn't tell how good the black levels were because of the bright lights on the store. Moot point now since I've learned of the light leakage issue. That scared me.
One important factor not mentioned in the video review is that the LG QNED85 Mini-LED TV set uses the IPS type of panel, which has a very good viewing angle. In comparison, the Sony TV uses a VA panel that has a viewing angle that is not nearly as good. Even when you slightly move off to the side, the Sony TV sets start to see a difference in color accuracy.
@@RodMurray777 Yes. The 2022 models called the 83 (only at Best Buy) and 85 (sold everywhere) are IPS. After seeing the TERRIBLE Viewing Angles of all the VA Panels with Mini-LEDs in 2022, I realized the IPS panels for TV sets were far superior to the VA panels, just as they are with computer monitors. With these Mini-LED lights, the IPS panels have very deep "Black" colors. So that excuse of "Not having deep Blacks" is no longer valid for IPS panels now that Mini-LED lighting is used.
@@michaelzoran Thanks for the response I was looking at the Samsung QN85B and it’s a ips panel but the 85”size they change to a VA panel for some reason so I was wondering did they do the same with the LG 85 Series Mini LED 85” Size also
I had the same issue with "hot" spots along the edges with my 65QNED85 also. Just a characteristic with IPS panels. I think the cure is additional zones like you get with the 2021 90QNED and QN85B. So the 2022 QNED90 should effectively mask these hot spots.
@@SubZero8007 Nope, IPS glow occurs in corners and intensity changes on viewing angle. John B clearly said edges which would mean blb. Either way its a defect if severe and not indicative of a certain type of panel.
@@ouazizireda8809 but still not as good as like the qn85a which had less, so probably software issue or lg is just not as good in terms of local dimming
I just ordered a LG 65" QNED 85 (2022) from Costco, for about $1,199.00 (before taxes) (includes 5 year total warranty.) Plus an LG S80QY soundbar from BestBuy. It will be my first in-home experience with Dolby Atmos. Thank you, Stop The FOMO, for your excellent review.
I have viewed several your reviews and found them most helpful - except they do not appear to specifically address the quality of subtitles or sub text. We watch a lot of subtitled movies ( in a low light room) and - like us - I suspect the quality of the text displayed will be a key factor for many others. In particular those with limited hearing, that need audio described sub text, would also benefit from a specific test on the subtext/subtitles. I do note that your visual test includes some sub text but you do not seem to comment on it, and its very hard to ascertain the quality oneself while viewing your TH-cam video from a small PC screen, smart phone or tablet.
I agree. Screens should offer you the ability to move the subtitles, change size and so forth. Also, a CC button on the remote would be nice. Add in high quality speech reproduction.
@Gale Grazutis Now 7 months later, I bought the QN95B in the 65 inch size and really like it. Wait and watch the prices drop as now the 2023 sets are selling for a better price in a 2022 if you are interested.
@PcGamingForFun I ended up with a QN95B model and have had a great experience playing games on both PS5 and XBox Series X consoles. You should feel comfortable choosing either the 90B or 95B if game play is important to you. MARCH is fast approaching and these sets will be on sale soon, that will be the time to grab one.
I‘ve got a 85“ QN85A with a VA Panel in September 2021 for 2700€ and I‘m happy with the purchase so far. Colors, brightness and contrast are superb. But it seems that I’m sensitive to PWM on this screen in all modes except Movie. Movie flickers with 960Hz while other modes flicker with 120Hz. And it got some barely visible DSE and blooming. But the flickering was the worst for me. Sadly almost no reviewer except Rtings are talking about the screen dimming methods. Low frequency PWM can cause headaches and eyes strain for some people.
Yeah that is why I went OLED and my eyes feel amazing after many hours of watching/gaming now. OLED is much better for the eyes, especially at night. Much less blue light is emitted.
@@lort6022 I was considering buying a LG C1 77“ back then. But my living room has 4 windows and can get very bright. The LG OLED was not suitable for my room because of reflections and brightness limitations. Otherwise a great TV.
@@stopthefomo Lucky you :) I figured out the slow-mo function on your smartphones camera can make PWM visible. With my eyes I can’t see it but I can instantly sense it.
I copped the Qn90a 75 inch from MicroCenter a month ago for $1399. Happy I waited Patiently for the Recession to pressure them to move the old Merch. Picked up a 3080Ti too for $800. Edit : A Recession is a Recess and as a Consumer, your Green Light!
There is always a caveat with every piece a tech out out there. I wanted an 85 inch TV, and settled on a 77 inch LG C2. QLED looks great to my eyes, I tested a q80b, qn85b, qn90b, and various LG qneds. Can hardly tell the difference between the qn85b and qn90b unless you put them up against and OLED. Qn90b in 85 inch was just too much money for my blood, so I settled for the c2. I'm happy with my purchase.
Wow - you just skipped demonstrating all 4 TV's showcasing DolbyVision content!! Even though the Samsung's don't support it, then still show whatever can be seen on the screen with the same movie & same scene. Would be interesting...
Yaay!!! I love LG!! Even though I was more aiming for LGQNE90, but I kept waiting for the prices to go down.... and after being very impatient, I chose LG C1 since when I got it, the price was $300 cheaper than LG QNED90 and QNED90 was OUT OF STOCK at Costco... so happy with LG here!! 😍👍🙏
It amazes me that a little lightening up of the black bars is such a big deal to many, When I watch a movie I'm watching the movie not the black bars. I've got a qned85 and have never noticed a problem but I will admit after watching this video and reading the comments I can see a little light gray in the bars in some scenes. But for the most part the bars are black. I wouldn't let that keep me from buying the tv because it's a great set. The blacks in the scenes are really good and the colors are vibrant. I would buy it again.
I have the 75 inch QNED 85 and it's been great! Got it about 3 weeks ago after upgrading from a 65 inch Samsung Q70R. My tv doesn't have any light leakage 🤞👍 so I am happy. The picture quality is similar to my Q70R but I had issues with the Samsung. For three years the Tv would turn itself on multiple times a day and would turn off when watching Prime video. I decided to upgrade to a bigger QNED tv.
I had a samsung TV for a few days 2 years ago. I returned it cause it kept turning on in tge middle of the night. I looked it up and its an issue theyve had for 10 years now. I would never buy any of their products except their phones.
How are you enjoying the 75 QNED85? I bought the 86" model back in November. I liked the Sony x900h overall but the lack of dimming zones and blooming really bothered me after a while.
Yes someone is thinking about none big names brands. This test really shows how hisense could have used a cheaper local dimming panel but you got the big name brands that are failing. You can go pick up a u8g 65 inch for $1000 and it's taking a dump all over these high premium TVs. Yes the u8h is out rn but Quantum TV has it already. By the looks of it the 55 inch model has about the same amount of glow or halo. But yes the 75 inch maybe that's when the TV will start looking like a oled or a better qn90a.
Odd, in the gaming section he doesn't mention how well the local dimming works with vrr. That's like the specific question I came here looking for an answer for
It works perfectly according to another respected TH-camr (The calibrator guy). I was happy to hear that, as Samsungs issues with that and HGIG have soured me on them.
I bought the very first mini led set, the TCL 65 825 in Feb 2020 and I love it. I recently came into some money so I upgraded to the Sony Z9K and when that thing gets good 4k HDR it's just something to behold it so bright and nice looking with excellent blacks. It does get some minor blooming that the TCL never shows but it looks so you are there I love it better than the TCL. Get a properly designed mini led set with good light control your going to be happy. I wouldn't recommend the Z9K for any user unless they can really afford it and my TCL can hang with it really well, it just doesn't have the 3d super bright picture, but I only paid 1400 for it. Sony still gets the Sony tax till you go down to the more consumer grade sets.
Hey man, I see your post everywhere. If I get the Z9K I hope I'm has giddy as you are. 😆 Did you ever have an OLED and, if so why the change? Do you watch a lot of sports or TV with the lights on? I'm guessing SONY z9k upscaling of low bit rate content is quite phenomenal. I think the Z9K however, would shine most using an apple TV or Nvidia Sheild as broadcast cable is low quality. I'm still unsure between an 80 plus inch OLED or go mini LED but, I stuck with Sony because I want the HT-A9. I need a versatile TV for both light and dark room viewing and the highest quality 4K HDR and SDR. Don't trust Samsung and Sony is a little pricy if I don't get the effect I want
@@bravedave90 I watch a lot of cable and OTA broadcasts and TH-cam streaming etc. The signal through the Comcast box is horrible quality, very low bitrate 1080p that mostly looks soft with some artifacts on the Z9K. I have a Sheild and a Roku Ultra 4k and they both look excellent on it with the higher bitrate or 4khdr they show. I also have the HD HomeRun Prime and the 4k flex OTA boxes and they have much better quality signal than the cable box as well so the 1080p max video they provide looks excellent upscaled to 8k on it. If all I had seen was the typical cable quality picture on it I would not be super impressed with it. When I'm watching good HDR movies and demos it goes into beast mode and is just the best looking picture I have ever seen in 4k HDR. It does get some minor blooming depending on what it is showing but I don't really notice it once good HDR is being played. It really looks 3d and you are there in person when it gets good quality video to play with. I've never had a oled or a plasma but I've had plenty of excellent quality old school crt sets including a Toshiba 34hfx84 that was HD and could play anything up to 1080i video very well with excellent black levels and color. I upgraded because I figured Sony would have a even better picture than my excellent TCL mini led set does. The TCL has better blooming control but crushes blacks to do it but still looks great. The Sony just does everything else so much better, way brighter and HDR is on a whole other level. I have been watching all my favorite 4k demos and movies and just being blown away how much better they look now. Don't be afraid to play with all the picture settings if you get it. Out of the box it's merely good, crank some of the brightness and color tweaks up and it just keeps looking better. Set color temp to neutral as well and b/w will look perfect.
@@69Dartman appreciate the lengthy reply. I'm so intrigued by this TV and can only hope I'm as enthusiastic as you seem to be. I saw it on display at VE but it was a 4k demo so, it obviously looked crisp. We tried some "8K youtube" videos which didn't show much but I didn't except it to so, no real disappointments there. Anyhow, congratulations on your new TV. It sounds like you picked yourself a winner and it's giving you the experience you wanted at a price you were willing to pay. If it wasn't for the Sony HT-A9 and, Samsung DSE or genral QC concerns, I'd probably buy the Sammy. I'm debating between 83-85 inch A90J, X95K, or go LG and forget the HT-A9 altogether. The new TCL 935 I believe is gonna be another monster with a 6000:1 contrast ratio. But, I digress. 😎
@@bravedave90 Well, there's so many options coming up soon that who knows who else will release a set that can do everything the Z9K does and do it just as well or better. Besides that even if nobody tops it for a while the price on it and the X95 series sets should come down a bit after a while. Even if somebody builds a set that looks just as good if it's way cheaper that's a win right there anyway. I'd still be perfectly happy with my old TCL and it still looks great in my bedroom and is a nice reference set when I'm seeing something look weird on the Sony. If I hadn't been able to actually buy the Sony I'd probably run the TCL till it dies and hope to find a decent deal on something as good or better by then.
Could you correct for the dimming zone numbers? It's 180 vs what you said: 120. Also: Could you repeat this but replace one of the TVs with the QNED90 model?
Light leakage in the corner is only on the right side not on the left and matches the asymmetrical brightness of the content. it seems like software to me so maybe an update could fix that? in fantastic beasts with symmetrical brightness (5:30) it's not there for example
In Canada, there are some pretty good sales this week on the QNED85, especially the 75 in. Do you expect the panel and performance of the 75 to be comparable to 65? Anyone here can share their impressions of the 75?
I watched the QNED85 at Bestbuy, and was able to compare side -by-side with other LG offerings. I was so impressed with the quality, that I ordered the 86" on the spot. (Would've gone for the OLED, but hey the 86" OLED was wayyy out of my budget :-) ) It will arrive in 22 days...I'll add my notes afterward!
@@chrisd1172 I ended up with the LG Qned85. It was several hundred cheaper and the room can have some pretty good light. Had it about 3 weeks and so far really enjoying it. Very glad I got the bigger size. The detail is so much better than my old plasma.
At 7:15, when we take a freeze frame, we can clearly see that the televisions are not synchronous, they are not on the same frame. in particular the hands which this is on the left of the image.
Good catch! Even when running through a splitter in slo-mo, I sometimes miss the sync between frames! Sony’s are consistently a frame or 2 behind Samsung due to more processing
I bought previously a Samsung QLED Q85a and was disappointed very much. The picture quality is okay, but the colours are awful, the sheer amount of lack of features (very few picture and sound mode, lack of dolby vision, atmos, etc). After LG B7 it was lackluster so I returned it. The QNED 91 (2021) looks awsome, but waiting for QNED 91 (2022), but still no reviews for it. I hope you will have it soon :)
I’m kinda shocked his first comment for why MiniLed was Color. I would have figured burn in as it’s the only thing I look at when spending 3000 to watch tv lol.
I've had the LG 75QNED85 for two months - I'm not experiencing the lights leakage you showed, at least not yet. What I did notice are there are only 2 HDMI 2.1 ports, not 4 / am I incorrect here FOMO???
I went from a TCL 75’ 6 series mini led to an LG 86 inch UQ75 series UHD did i make a mistake it seems like the picture was better on the TCL i can still return any advice?
Any chance you could cover the new Hisense UxH TVs soon? I've been looking on reddit for a good "budget" TV and my past experience with Hisense is good, but reddit refuses to recommend them in 2022 stating that reliability is way worse. I know their cheap tvs may not be reliable, but what about their QD TVs? Its either TCL 5 vs U6H or TCL 6 vs U7H for me.
@SleepyScroller r/hometheater and r/4KTVs They have a specific thread for best TV's of 2022. I'd link to it but I think my comments are getting deleted because of it.
@@abhi4ify however, I did end up preordering the new TCL R655 on Amazon for $1265. Hisense is about $100 cheaper for the u7h but it doesn't have mini LED, doesn't go up to 144hz, and the stand for the TV is in the center so I can buy a smaller TV stand for it to sit on (since my wife must have one). We'll see if it's any good. Worst case scenario I return it.
I’m trying to decide between the LG 65” LG QNED, and 55” C2 OLD Exactly the Same here, I have points so both will be free, I just want the bigger 65 inch, from what I’m reading OLED is better overall, but the extra 10 inches appeals to me! Can anyone help?!
Keep this mind however, the 65" QNED may be the better choice as long as (1) no corner light bleed when watching black bar content and (2) you're in a brighter room. In a darker room the C2 really pops and the perfect black bars are 3 dimensional almost. If youre coming from an older TV, try the 65" QNED first and then upgrade to OLED at a later date, but keep those caveats in mind
What are your thoughts on a 75" Hisense U8H? I'm willing to spend up to 2K. I see you have the LG B2 listed. I will have the TV in my finished basement and do game 25% of the time. We mostly stream and also HDR movies
Do you think the the qn85b would be a better purchase the the sony x90k I have the x90k and the dark screen and black corner and delay controls are bugging me but I'm looking at the qn85b and I wanna make sure it's worth the switch??
I have Lg mini qned 86 inch. Watch cricket or baseball have issues especially when ball is flying. Is there any fix in settings? Also watch dark night shorts of Black Panther movie are not clear, screen is totally black, hardly anything to see. Plz suggest if any setting I can change or is there other better alternative tv. Thanks!
Our 15 yr TV is giving up. Looking for another TV that's in a bright lit room with 6 large windows facing it during day Privacy is a concern so a TV without a mic would be great. No brand loyalty here. Thanks
Which would you suggest be better for cable, sports, movies in a low to medium light room the lg 75qned85 or sony xr75x90k? Does the lg have 240hz motion refresh?
I recently bought a qned 83 65in for 1000 bucks I'm hoping that was a good buy, I'm thinking I should have gotten the 85 instead but my budget was stretched at 1000
Probably not often asked here but I’m looking for a cheap granny TV 43” max in size, budget maybe €500 (Im in EU). Need to have netflix. Anything worth getting around that price point?
If I am using earc connection from a TV to an avr with an ultra high speed cable should all my devices connected to my avr be connected via ultra high speed cable as well?
In the case of miniled TVs, dividing the backlight into zones results in a significant improvement. I would like to see an evaluation where it becomes visible how the number of zones affects the image quality. Where is the reasonable limit in the number of zones, where the halo effect hardly occurs, but its control is not a problem either. I am thinking here of the TCL C835 55- and 65-inch TVs, where the larger ones have much more zones, but the blooming is that much better? Also, how is the upscaling quality of low-resolution content for TCL C835 TVs. Thanks.
hello great review,can you confirm if you adjusted LED Dimming in the advanced settings to medium/high to see if this eradicated light bleed in black bars or was it set on off/low?..cheers
@@stopthefomo Hi bro , I want you to help me to choose between this two TVs but I want a Tv to be save from dead pixels problems as well as to be good for movie and gaming and Tv channels I changed two oled C1 tvs because of dead pixels problems but some of my heart love the quality of oled TVS and some of it afraid of dead pixels and short life of oled tvs Now LG’s company because of warranaty make me to choose one of LG’S TVS And lam confused between this two TVS Which one do you think I Choose : 1-LG Oled CS6 55 inches NOTE : With the first option I should pay 80 dollars 2-LG QNED 806 QA 55 inches NOTE : With the second option The LG will return for me 250 dollars
Hi bro , I want you to help me to choose between this two TVs but I want a Tv to be save from dead pixels problems as well as to be good for movie and gaming and Tv channels I changed two oled C1 tvs because of dead pixels problems but some of my heart love the quality of oled TVS and some of it afraid of dead pixels and short life of oled tvs Now LG’s company because of warranaty make me to choose one of LG’S TVS And lam confused between this two TVS Which one do you think I Choose : 1-LG Oled CS6 55 inches 2-LG QNED 806 QA 55 inches
does any one have the contrast ratio , exemple 6000: 1 with and without local dimming, cant find it anywhere on the net..very good price on this tv for the 75 inch however can also get the qd oled for same price but for 65 inch.. hard to decide, watch a lot of hockey and qned 90 from last year is better than any oled i find for hockey.
Thanks for the great video! I bought the 86" LG QNED85 back in November. It was an upgrade from the Sony 75X900H. I wish OLED was an option for me, but here in Canada, the 77" OLED panels start at 4 grand before taxes and warranty which is out of my price range. Am loving it's overall performance especially now that I've been able to dial in the picture settings to my liking.
@ Stop the FOMO Kudos to you for all your TV reviews. They really are helpful. Which would you recommend between the LG QNED81 65-inch and the Sony X80K 65-inch? My usage is casual - a little bit of sports, news and TV shows. No gaming whatsoever. Appreciate your response.
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I just have to say that for the amount of money Sony ask for there should be little to no blooming on their mini LED.
For the amount we pay for everything nowadays you think they’d care more about their customers but no.. it’s still money that is the most important
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Sony has more processors
I have zero blooming on my x95k with gaming and real world content. it’s phenomenal and I will only be buying mini led from now on
@@saphireg8094I’m looking for mini Led and the x95k is topping my list. The 65inch is at $1,799 currently but all the blooming heavy blooming talk has me hesitate. Going mini led over other tech is just my circumstances. Yet I’d like to get the best there in. Any further thoughts beyond what you have already mentioned?
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I'm seriously considering getting the LG 65QNED866QA, was hoping you'd review it, there aren't any reviews out there for it. I can't go OLED cos of the burn in risk, (it will be used as a secondary monitor). Very curious how many dimming zones it has, and how it performs.
@@ytglenn Based FlatpanelsHD's TV index, QNED86 & QNED85 appear to be identical (the former being the EU version), so you can rely on my QNED85 review as a proxy for your decision whether to buy the QNED86.
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Love the videos! Question - Im looking at the 86QNED80AQA at Costco. Im really confused on if its good or not. Is it not as good or just as good as the QNED85?
I had my parents buy a qn90 2021 has they needed fantastic reflection handling. It was also on sale and compared to my q80r it is even better. I love my q80r but qn90 is spectacular.
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Greetings from Australia. I bought the LG 86QNED85 in Boxing Day. I love it . Your information is very helpful.
Once I saw the Screen Bleed in that LG that was a no sale for me. Its too bad that is still an issue after almost 2 decades of making an LCD tv.
Corner light leakage is the biggest concern. So glad you pointed it out. The 75" QNED85 currently being on sale at a big box store for $1599 made me wonder what the catch is.
Costco and Best Buy has it at $1076 or under $1200
@@ivirtualontwitch1656 Well Costco is the big box outfit I'm talking about. I keep track of their prices and never saw this model that low.
@@ivirtualontwitch1656 huh??? the Bestbuy 75 is at 1599 seems like its been there for a while!
It looked impressive in the warehouse club, but couldn't tell how good the black levels were because of the bright lights on the store. Moot point now since I've learned of the light leakage issue. That scared me.
One important factor not mentioned in the video review is that the LG QNED85 Mini-LED TV set uses the IPS type of panel, which has a very good viewing angle. In comparison, the Sony TV uses a VA panel that has a viewing angle that is not nearly as good. Even when you slightly move off to the side, the Sony TV sets start to see a difference in color accuracy.
Does the 85” LG qned of this model has a ips panel also
@@RodMurray777 Yes. The 2022 models called the 83 (only at Best Buy) and 85 (sold everywhere) are IPS. After seeing the TERRIBLE Viewing Angles of all the VA Panels with Mini-LEDs in 2022, I realized the IPS panels for TV sets were far superior to the VA panels, just as they are with computer monitors. With these Mini-LED lights, the IPS panels have very deep "Black" colors. So that excuse of "Not having deep Blacks" is no longer valid for IPS panels now that Mini-LED lighting is used.
@@michaelzoran Thanks for the response I was looking at the Samsung QN85B and it’s a ips panel but the 85”size they change to a VA panel for some reason so I was wondering did they do the same with the LG 85 Series Mini LED 85” Size also
I had the same issue with "hot" spots along the edges with my 65QNED85 also. Just a characteristic with IPS panels. I think the cure is additional zones like you get with the 2021 90QNED and QN85B. So the 2022 QNED90 should effectively mask these hot spots.
It's not a characteristic of IPS panels.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
It's literally called "IPS glow", a well known characteristic of IPS panels.
@@SubZero8007 Nope, IPS glow occurs in corners and intensity changes on viewing angle. John B clearly said edges which would mean blb. Either way its a defect if severe and not indicative of a certain type of panel.
exactly the qned90 2021 has 1000 diming zone that make for it for sure better than the qned85
@@ouazizireda8809 but still not as good as like the qn85a which had less, so probably software issue or lg is just not as good in terms of local dimming
I just ordered a LG 65" QNED 85 (2022) from Costco, for about $1,199.00 (before taxes) (includes 5 year total warranty.) Plus an LG S80QY soundbar from BestBuy. It will be my first in-home experience with Dolby Atmos. Thank you, Stop The FOMO, for your excellent review.
congrats . any ghosting or trailing in games?
@@PcGamingForFun Games? I don't do games on this TV.
I have viewed several your reviews and found them most helpful - except they do not appear to specifically address the quality of subtitles or sub text. We watch a lot of subtitled movies ( in a low light room) and - like us - I suspect the quality of the text displayed will be a key factor for many others. In particular those with limited hearing, that need audio described sub text, would also benefit from a specific test on the subtext/subtitles. I do note that your visual test includes some sub text but you do not seem to comment on it, and its very hard to ascertain the quality oneself while viewing your TH-cam video from a small PC screen, smart phone or tablet.
I agree. Screens should offer you the ability to move the subtitles, change size and so forth. Also, a CC button on the remote would be nice. Add in high quality speech reproduction.
The QN90B looks the best of the four to me.
That's what l am getting
@Gale Grazutis Now 7 months later, I bought the QN95B in the 65 inch size and really like it.
Wait and watch the prices drop as now the 2023 sets are selling for a better price in a 2022 if you are interested.
@@majorkursk780 how is motion in games? any ghosting ?
@PcGamingForFun I ended up with a QN95B model and have had a great experience playing games on both PS5 and XBox Series X consoles.
You should feel comfortable choosing either the 90B or 95B if game play is important to you. MARCH is fast approaching and these sets will be on sale soon, that will be the time to grab one.
Do a TCL/Hisense mini LED showdown.
I‘ve got a 85“ QN85A with a VA Panel in September 2021 for 2700€ and I‘m happy with the purchase so far. Colors, brightness and contrast are superb. But it seems that I’m sensitive to PWM on this screen in all modes except Movie. Movie flickers with 960Hz while other modes flicker with 120Hz. And it got some barely visible DSE and blooming. But the flickering was the worst for me. Sadly almost no reviewer except Rtings are talking about the screen dimming methods. Low frequency PWM can cause headaches and eyes strain for some people.
Yeah that is why I went OLED and my eyes feel amazing after many hours of watching/gaming now. OLED is much better for the eyes, especially at night. Much less blue light is emitted.
@@lort6022 I was considering buying a LG C1 77“ back then. But my living room has 4 windows and can get very bright. The LG OLED was not suitable for my room because of reflections and brightness limitations. Otherwise a great TV.
Sadly, PWM sensitivity is a hard one to stamp out as I'm not sensitive to it, so I can't tell which TVs don't have it!
@@stopthefomo Lucky you :) I figured out the slow-mo function on your smartphones camera can make PWM visible. With my eyes I can’t see it but I can instantly sense it.
I copped the Qn90a 75 inch from MicroCenter a month ago for $1399. Happy I waited Patiently for the Recession to pressure them to move the old Merch. Picked up a 3080Ti too for $800.
Edit : A Recession is a Recess and as a Consumer, your Green Light!
There is always a caveat with every piece a tech out out there. I wanted an 85 inch TV, and settled on a 77 inch LG C2. QLED looks great to my eyes, I tested a q80b, qn85b, qn90b, and various LG qneds. Can hardly tell the difference between the qn85b and qn90b unless you put them up against and OLED. Qn90b in 85 inch was just too much money for my blood, so I settled for the c2. I'm happy with my purchase.
The LG looks good. Im okay with blooming. I rather have the nits.
Wow - you just skipped demonstrating all 4 TV's showcasing DolbyVision content!! Even though the Samsung's don't support it, then still show whatever can be seen on the screen with the same movie & same scene. Would be interesting...
Yaay!!! I love LG!! Even though I was more aiming for LGQNE90, but I kept waiting for the prices to go down.... and after being very impatient, I chose LG C1 since when I got it, the price was $300 cheaper than LG QNED90 and QNED90 was OUT OF STOCK at Costco... so happy with LG here!! 😍👍🙏
Crazy that this guy considers a 55 inch tv that cost over $1100 budget.
It amazes me that a little lightening up of the black bars is such a big deal to many, When I watch a movie I'm watching the movie not the black bars. I've got a qned85 and have never noticed a problem but I will admit after watching this video and reading the comments I can see a little light gray in the bars in some scenes. But for the most part the bars are black. I wouldn't let that keep me from buying the tv because it's a great set. The blacks in the scenes are really good and the colors are vibrant. I would buy it again.
I've always wondered the same thing about the black bars. I really don't pay enough attention to it for me to be concerned about it.
Man as long as my brain recognizes it’s some sort of black then it’s all good lol
$1600 doesn't grow on trees, so damn right I want to know about it.
@@rkgsd Buy an oled.
how is motion in games? any ghosting ?
I have the 75 inch QNED 85 and it's been great! Got it about 3 weeks ago after upgrading from a 65 inch Samsung Q70R. My tv doesn't have any light leakage 🤞👍 so I am happy. The picture quality is similar to my Q70R but I had issues with the Samsung. For three years the Tv would turn itself on multiple times a day and would turn off when watching Prime video. I decided to upgrade to a bigger QNED tv.
I had a samsung TV for a few days 2 years ago. I returned it cause it kept turning on in tge middle of the night. I looked it up and its an issue theyve had for 10 years now. I would never buy any of their products except their phones.
@@micahpowers2614 Must be a faulty tv cause i've had 3 Samsung tvs and they've never had that issue
How are you enjoying the 75 QNED85? I bought the 86" model back in November. I liked the Sony x900h overall but the lack of dimming zones and blooming really bothered me after a while.
how is motion in games? no ghosting ?
@@Mlock76 how is motion in games? no ghosting ?
What size is the LG QNED85 in the video? Asking as the dimming zones are probably different with different panel sizes.
I'd love to see you review the Hisense U8H! Specifically interested in the 75". Will it be the same panel/performance as the 65"?
Yes someone is thinking about none big names brands. This test really shows how hisense could have used a cheaper local dimming panel but you got the big name brands that are failing. You can go pick up a u8g 65 inch for $1000 and it's taking a dump all over these high premium TVs. Yes the u8h is out rn but Quantum TV has it already. By the looks of it the 55 inch model has about the same amount of glow or halo. But yes the 75 inch maybe that's when the TV will start looking like a oled or a better qn90a.
Thank you for comparing them with real content 🙏🙏
£799 for the 55” version right now
Another great video. I believe you are the best reviewer on TH-cam. :)
Qn90b looks amazing overall
How about hisense U8H?
Thanks for this review. Save me from getting a TV with blooming issues.
Please make a detail comparison video between x95j vs x95k There is no such comparison on the Web channels .
Odd, in the gaming section he doesn't mention how well the local dimming works with vrr. That's like the specific question I came here looking for an answer for
It works terrible. No LCD w. Mini LED or FALD is impressive in gaming because backlight can't be controlled well enough.
It works perfectly according to another respected TH-camr (The calibrator guy). I was happy to hear that, as Samsungs issues with that and HGIG have soured me on them.
@@Dr.WhetFarts umm.. My z9j worked flawlessly, as does any sony j or k series...
local dimming and VRR don't work at the same time
@@colclumper That's outright FALSE. Local dimming works perfectly in game mode on the LG QNED85. Unfortunately this is not the case for most LCD TVs.
As a big nano90 fan, I want that qned so bad
Which 65" would you buy? Samsung QN90A or LG QNED85.
What is the difference between the QNED85 and QNED90? Can't find any good comparisons out there
I bought the very first mini led set, the TCL 65 825 in Feb 2020 and I love it. I recently came into some money so I upgraded to the Sony Z9K and when that thing gets good 4k HDR it's just something to behold it so bright and nice looking with excellent blacks. It does get some minor blooming that the TCL never shows but it looks so you are there I love it better than the TCL.
Get a properly designed mini led set with good light control your going to be happy. I wouldn't recommend the Z9K for any user unless they can really afford it and my TCL can hang with it really well, it just doesn't have the 3d super bright picture, but I only paid 1400 for it. Sony still gets the Sony tax till you go down to the more consumer grade sets.
Hey man, I see your post everywhere. If I get the Z9K I hope I'm has giddy as you are. 😆 Did you ever have an OLED and, if so why the change? Do you watch a lot of sports or TV with the lights on? I'm guessing SONY z9k upscaling of low bit rate content is quite phenomenal. I think the Z9K however, would shine most using an apple TV or Nvidia Sheild as broadcast cable is low quality. I'm still unsure between an 80 plus inch OLED or go mini LED but, I stuck with Sony because I want the HT-A9. I need a versatile TV for both light and dark room viewing and the highest quality 4K HDR and SDR. Don't trust Samsung and Sony is a little pricy if I don't get the effect I want
@@bravedave90 I watch a lot of cable and OTA broadcasts and TH-cam streaming etc.
The signal through the Comcast box is horrible quality, very low bitrate 1080p that mostly looks soft with some artifacts on the Z9K.
I have a Sheild and a Roku Ultra 4k and they both look excellent on it with the higher bitrate or 4khdr they show.
I also have the HD HomeRun Prime and the 4k flex OTA boxes and they have much better quality signal than the cable box as well so the 1080p max video they provide looks excellent upscaled to 8k on it. If all I had seen was the typical cable quality picture on it I would not be super impressed with it.
When I'm watching good HDR movies and demos it goes into beast mode and is just the best looking picture I have ever seen in 4k HDR.
It does get some minor blooming depending on what it is showing but I don't really notice it once good HDR is being played.
It really looks 3d and you are there in person when it gets good quality video to play with.
I've never had a oled or a plasma but I've had plenty of excellent quality old school crt sets including a Toshiba 34hfx84 that was HD and could play anything up to 1080i video very well with excellent black levels and color.
I upgraded because I figured Sony would have a even better picture than my excellent TCL mini led set does. The TCL has better blooming control but crushes blacks to do it but still looks great.
The Sony just does everything else so much better, way brighter and HDR is on a whole other level.
I have been watching all my favorite 4k demos and movies and just being blown away how much better they look now.
Don't be afraid to play with all the picture settings if you get it. Out of the box it's merely good, crank some of the brightness and color tweaks up and it just keeps looking better. Set color temp to neutral as well and b/w will look perfect.
@@69Dartman appreciate the lengthy reply. I'm so intrigued by this TV and can only hope I'm as enthusiastic as you seem to be. I saw it on display at VE but it was a 4k demo so, it obviously looked crisp. We tried some "8K youtube" videos which didn't show much but I didn't except it to so, no real disappointments there. Anyhow, congratulations on your new TV. It sounds like you picked yourself a winner and it's giving you the experience you wanted
at a price you were willing to pay. If it wasn't for the Sony HT-A9 and, Samsung DSE or genral QC concerns, I'd probably buy the Sammy. I'm debating between 83-85 inch A90J, X95K, or go LG and forget the HT-A9 altogether. The new TCL 935 I believe is gonna be another monster with a 6000:1 contrast ratio. But, I digress. 😎
@@bravedave90 Well, there's so many options coming up soon that who knows who else will release a set that can do everything the Z9K does and do it just as well or better. Besides that even if nobody tops it for a while the price on it and the X95 series sets should come down a bit after a while. Even if somebody builds a set that looks just as good if it's way cheaper that's a win right there anyway.
I'd still be perfectly happy with my old TCL and it still looks great in my bedroom and is a nice reference set when I'm seeing something look weird on the Sony. If I hadn't been able to actually buy the Sony I'd probably run the TCL till it dies and hope to find a decent deal on something as good or better by then.
Awesome comparison!!! Thanks!
I will recommend it to my brother. I got the q80.
Could you correct for the dimming zone numbers? It's 180 vs what you said: 120. Also: Could you repeat this but replace one of the TVs with the QNED90 model?
I’m really torn between this TV and the Sony 85X90K. I’d love to see a head to head battle against these two.
What did you end up getting?
great details thank you
Light leakage in the corner is only on the right side not on the left and matches the asymmetrical brightness of the content. it seems like software to me so maybe an update could fix that?
in fantastic beasts with symmetrical brightness (5:30) it's not there for example
Yes, it's very inconsistent but normally there if the brightness in the backlight is nearby
In Canada, there are some pretty good sales this week on the QNED85, especially the 75 in. Do you expect the panel and performance of the 75 to be comparable to 65? Anyone here can share their impressions of the 75?
I watched the QNED85 at Bestbuy, and was able to compare side -by-side with other LG offerings. I was so impressed with the quality, that I ordered the 86" on the spot. (Would've gone for the OLED, but hey the 86" OLED was wayyy out of my budget :-) ) It will arrive in 22 days...I'll add my notes afterward!
@@kenrobertson9995 And, And,? I've been waiting a year now for your follow-up notes....
I'm trying to decide between an 65" LG QNED 85 and a 55" LG C2.
May I ask which you ended up getting and how you like it? I was considering a Sony x90j or lgQned85 as they are the same price
@@chrisd1172 I ended up with the LG Qned85. It was several hundred cheaper and the room can have some pretty good light. Had it about 3 weeks and so far really enjoying it. Very glad I got the bigger size. The detail is so much better than my old plasma.
@@scottn8910 congrats . any ghosting or trailing in games?
I'm waiting to see what the 2022 LG QNED 90 will look like.
I'm considering B2 and Qned85. which one is better?
At 7:15, when we take a freeze frame, we can clearly see that the televisions are not synchronous, they are not on the same frame.
in particular the hands which this is on the left of the image.
Good catch! Even when running through a splitter in slo-mo, I sometimes miss the sync between frames! Sony’s are consistently a frame or 2 behind Samsung due to more processing
I am new - what's up with the gloves?
I bought previously a Samsung QLED Q85a and was disappointed very much. The picture quality is okay, but the colours are awful, the sheer amount of lack of features (very few picture and sound mode, lack of dolby vision, atmos, etc). After LG B7 it was lackluster so I returned it. The QNED 91 (2021) looks awsome, but waiting for QNED 91 (2022), but still no reviews for it. I hope you will have it soon :)
thery are basically the same the 2021 and 2022 version so just go for one of them they are great tvs
well what did you buy
@@PcGamingForFun in the end I decided not to pay so much for a tv and bought a TCL 55C645. Great tv for the prize. Probably I buy later a TCL 65C845.
I’m kinda shocked his first comment for why MiniLed was Color. I would have figured burn in as it’s the only thing I look at when spending 3000 to watch tv lol.
Test the Hisense U8H. If possible, the 75” version.
this 100%
Lg qned 85 mini led or Sony x90l 65 inch. Which would be better choice. These are my finalist based on price
What would you guys recommend I’m ordering one today! 90B? Or 85B???
LG and Samsung need to differentiate their names more. Two different manufacturers, but they both name their mini leds qn and qnd.
I've had the LG 75QNED85 for two months - I'm not experiencing the lights leakage you showed, at least not yet.
What I did notice are there are only 2 HDMI 2.1 ports, not 4 / am I incorrect here FOMO???
Tengo el 55QNED85, menos mal no tiene esas fugas de luz en la esquina.
I bought a Hisense u8hau. It's pretty good
I went from a TCL 75’ 6 series mini led to an LG 86 inch UQ75 series UHD did i make a mistake it seems like the picture was better on the TCL i can still return any advice?
For $200 more., would you get the Qn85B 85" over the 2021 Qn90A 85"? Both TVs are on sale at bestbuy.
You got a bad pannel. Mine was perfect, no DSE or light leakage. Absolutely sensational.
Any chance you could cover the new Hisense UxH TVs soon? I've been looking on reddit for a good "budget" TV and my past experience with Hisense is good, but reddit refuses to recommend them in 2022 stating that reliability is way worse. I know their cheap tvs may not be reliable, but what about their QD TVs? Its either TCL 5 vs U6H or TCL 6 vs U7H for me.
Which reddit sub u follow?
@SleepyScroller
r/hometheater and r/4KTVs
They have a specific thread for best TV's of 2022. I'd link to it but I think my comments are getting deleted because of it.
@@abhi4ify however, I did end up preordering the new TCL R655 on Amazon for $1265. Hisense is about $100 cheaper for the u7h but it doesn't have mini LED, doesn't go up to 144hz, and the stand for the TV is in the center so I can buy a smaller TV stand for it to sit on (since my wife must have one).
We'll see if it's any good. Worst case scenario I return it.
The light leakage is unfortunate, but as FOMO said it could be lottery/issue.
Guys did u even saw the price difference? There’s literally no noticeable difference! Take the Qned with close eyes u will never regret it!
I’m trying to decide between the LG 65” LG QNED, and 55” C2 OLD Exactly the Same here, I have points so both will be free, I just want the bigger 65 inch, from what I’m reading OLED is better overall, but the extra 10 inches appeals to me! Can anyone help?!
Keep this mind however, the 65" QNED may be the better choice as long as (1) no corner light bleed when watching black bar content and (2) you're in a brighter room. In a darker room the C2 really pops and the perfect black bars are 3 dimensional almost. If youre coming from an older TV, try the 65" QNED first and then upgrade to OLED at a later date, but keep those caveats in mind
What are your thoughts on a 75" Hisense U8H? I'm willing to spend up to 2K. I see you have the LG B2 listed. I will have the TV in my finished basement and do game 25% of the time. We mostly stream and also HDR movies
Hey there! If you had to get a 75" QNED85 for $950 or 75" X95K for $1600, which would you pick???
Do you think the the qn85b would be a better purchase the the sony x90k I have the x90k and the dark screen and black corner and delay controls are bugging me but I'm looking at the qn85b and I wanna make sure it's worth the switch??
Need some advice....Looking for a 55" TV for outdoor use (covered patio). Budget is $1000 or less. Thanks in advance.
Can do Sony Shoot out between A95k, A80k, a95j, what are we getting or missing I'm stocked. there is stiff competition at the $2700 price point.
I have Lg mini qned 86 inch. Watch cricket or baseball have issues especially when ball is flying. Is there any fix in settings?
Also watch dark night shorts of Black Panther movie are not clear, screen is totally black, hardly anything to see. Plz suggest if any setting I can change or is there other better alternative tv. Thanks!
Did you try adjusting your settings to the ones like put by CLASSY TV VIDEO MAN video?
Our 15 yr TV is giving up. Looking for another TV that's in a bright lit room with 6 large windows facing it during day
Privacy is a concern so a TV without a mic would be great.
No brand loyalty here.
Thanks
Which would you suggest be better for cable, sports, movies in a low to medium light room the lg 75qned85 or sony xr75x90k? Does the lg have 240hz motion refresh?
Which would be better the QNED 85 or the U8H?
And there’s Qned86 should be much be better than 85 with almost no blooming! Because it got the same Full array as Qn85
Is the anti-glare on the Samsung a lot better than the LG? This TV will be in a place to have a LOT of light coming from one side.
can you do Hisense U8H vs TCL 6 series comparison please
I recently bought a qned 83 65in for 1000 bucks I'm hoping that was a good buy, I'm thinking I should have gotten the 85 instead but my budget was stretched at 1000
With the B&H payboo credit card depending on the state you live in they will void the tax which is super awesome!!!
Definitely, I take advantage of that whenever I can!
Probably not often asked here but I’m looking for a cheap granny TV 43” max in size, budget maybe €500 (Im in EU). Need to have netflix. Anything worth getting around that price point?
Do you think QN90B WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE THAN THE X90K
wish that you would have done some tests for viewing angles
If I am using earc connection from a TV to an avr with an ultra high speed cable should all my devices connected to my avr be connected via ultra high speed cable as well?
I'd even take a TCL or Hisense if they are good TV's this year when finally available for purchase.
The Hisense U8H is available as we speak on Amazon in the 55" and 65" versions.
@@jasonsadler8402 thanks for the heads up. I'm not too crazy about LG non OLED TVs. I'd pass on the QNED myself.
In the case of miniled TVs, dividing the backlight into zones results in a significant improvement. I would like to see an evaluation where it becomes visible how the number of zones affects the image quality. Where is the reasonable limit in the number of zones, where the halo effect hardly occurs, but its control is not a problem either. I am thinking here of the TCL C835 55- and 65-inch TVs, where the larger ones have much more zones, but the blooming is that much better? Also, how is the upscaling quality of low-resolution content for TCL C835 TVs. Thanks.
hello great review,can you confirm if you adjusted LED Dimming in the advanced settings to medium/high to see if this eradicated light bleed in black bars or was it set on off/low?..cheers
Doesn't help due to manufacturing tolerances more than local dimming issues as some TVs don't exhibit this at all.
@@stopthefomo Hi bro , I want you to help me to choose between this two TVs but I want a Tv to be save from dead pixels problems as well as to be good for movie and gaming and Tv channels
I changed two oled C1 tvs because of dead pixels problems but some of my heart love the quality of oled TVS and some of it afraid of dead pixels and short life of oled tvs
Now LG’s company because of warranaty make me to choose one of LG’S TVS
And lam confused between this two TVS
Which one do you think I Choose :
1-LG Oled CS6 55 inches
NOTE : With the first option I should pay 80 dollars
2-LG QNED 806 QA 55 inches
NOTE : With the second option The LG will return for me 250 dollars
Is the Samsung QN85B better than the Sony X85K?
Is there light leakage during gaming?
The Samsung QN80B has only 420 dimming zones not 720
Hi bro , I want you to help me to choose between this two TVs but I want a Tv to be save from dead pixels problems as well as to be good for movie and gaming and Tv channels
I changed two oled C1 tvs because of dead pixels problems but some of my heart love the quality of oled TVS and some of it afraid of dead pixels and short life of oled tvs
Now LG’s company because of warranaty make me to choose one of LG’S TVS
And lam confused between this two TVS
Which one do you think I Choose :
1-LG Oled CS6 55 inches
2-LG QNED 806 QA 55 inches
You didnt even include the new hisense tv like the u8h are you going to review that anytime soon?
Yes, should be getting it by end of August
@@stopthefomo nice i hope its great this time
I see a qned83 but no mention of it on youtube.
Check 85 inch x95k already. Whats with the constant 65
does any one have the contrast ratio , exemple 6000: 1 with and without local dimming, cant find it anywhere on the net..very good price on this tv for the 75 inch however can also get the qd oled for same price but for 65 inch.. hard to decide, watch a lot of hockey and qned 90 from last year is better than any oled i find for hockey.
Might return my Qned85. Motion is really bad. On all settings
really?! in this video qned85 had the best motion!
Thanks for the great video! I bought the 86" LG QNED85 back in November. It was an upgrade from the Sony 75X900H. I wish OLED was an option for me, but here in Canada, the 77" OLED panels start at 4 grand before taxes and warranty which is out of my price range.
Am loving it's overall performance especially now that I've been able to dial in the picture settings to my liking.
Just picked up 75" - hope I like it. Installed next Tuesday.
are you suffering from bleed on the bars or as you said you've tweaked it satisfactorily?..
I haven't noticed bleeding around the edges on my set, but am sure the "panel lottery" will play a factor.
My OLED has burn in and my brightness is at minimal not good LG.
Now I have to start planning on another TV.
Try the Samsung QN85B
Can you do a review for best gaming TV ? Some people say LG some say Sony with PlayStation consoles I just wana know what is the best .
Lg oleds still king
I keep watching reviews and going to Best Buy and struggle between the S95B, QN90B and Sony X95… what would you go with?
get qn85b 55inch sony is shit n Samsung top models are also shit .
Qn90b for bigger size
QN 90B 75” is perfect!…
75" LG 83 series qned is 1399 at BB right now. Would this be best 75" under 1500? I would go with the u8h but can only find 65" atm
83 is not miniled. regular LCD not worth it at any price in 2023
@ Stop the FOMO Kudos to you for all your TV reviews. They really are helpful. Which would you recommend between the LG QNED81 65-inch and the Sony X80K 65-inch? My usage is casual - a little bit of sports, news and TV shows. No gaming whatsoever. Appreciate your response.