The Lady of Chew Valley Lake (a ghost story)
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- Chew Valley Lake lies 12 miles south of the city of Bristol in Somerset, England. The B3114 road runs alongside it. It was here, one night in June of 1999, that as many as nine people witnessed what they all believed to be a paranormal event. This is the story of the lady of Chew Valley Lake.
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A sad loss of a young life and the loss of the countryside submerged forever underwater. Both truly make for a great ghost tale. Thanks curious world. Quality as always.
Thank you. Yes, it's a fascinating story. I'd love to know what that village under water looks like now.
@@CuriousWorldProductions so this was late 1800’s? I don’t think I caught the exact date. Great stuff, thanks!
Creepy, I live not far from here. My mum used to work at the mendip hospital. She had many unexplainable experiences.
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Thanks very much, Paul.
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@@CuriousWorldProductions We love to hear more stories from you, sir.
All the best to you.
Most definitely
Truly a sad, depressing story. May she rest in peace. 🙏😞
I'm always very happy to see one of your uploads. They're always very well done and professional. Thank you for posting this. I love ghost stories!
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You have a beautiful 🐈 cat, on your pic.
Wonderful, albeit sad story. Of course these stories always are. Your retelling is really great. Thank you for sharing it!
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I am fortunate enough have fished Chew for pike during the winter and have lived in this stunning area for all of my 40 some years, I can assure everyone that the surrounding countryside is a hot bed of paranormal and cryptid accounts stretching back many hundreds of years. In the last 45 years there are hairy covered hominid reports, many large cats including Puma, larger black Leopard types and Lynx, together with numerous paranormal accounts. That’s not to mention the incredible number of UFO accounts and more recent glowing balls of light seemingly scanning areas in grid type fashion. As mentioned, this area has evidence of human habitation back to the Stone Age, many Bronze Age burial mounds and caches of prehistoric bones that have been so substantial they have confirmed the existence of many species.
I have personally come across many first hand accounts of all types and experienced some crazy shit my naturally rational and somewhat sceptical mind still has trouble factoring. Peace
look up 5 unexplained british mysteries by unexplained mysteries here on youtube. Talks about the black cat of england
Michael L thanks, I think I may have watched that and commented. I was a member of the British Big Cat Society as a younger man and collated some amazing first hand accounts of Puma with cubs, Lynx with cubs and some pretty intense encounters with the melanistic leopard types. I believe we have had an incredibly elusive large black cat present here for at least the last 800-1000 years, due to the black dog accounts being much more feline in their behaviour. All the best. Peace
Thanks for the contributions, Dan. We are lucky to live in such a beautiful place. I remember stories of large black cats going back to my childhood.
it’s all down to the prodigious amount of weed people are smoking around there 😁
Love passing chew Valley lake on my way to Weston Super Mud. ..
Poor girl, always trying to go home. I wonder if she keeps walking down what used to be the lane leading to her family's house deep beneath the reservoir?
But she did get home, according to her mum. Shes now forever in her bathroom . Which is underwater. Very sad
Exactly. Imagine she dies in that moat, but unable to process it or perhaps in denial, her spirit remains and can only think of getting home, where she will be safe. Maybe her psyche is broken and remains trying to get home.
Excellent, no drama and very well related and researched, thankyou.
Nice, always good to see your stuff. I still stand that you make some of the most fun and engaging stories on youtube.
Thanks, Lamron.
After 15 or 20 minutes I would have been checking on my child. Especially if they came home soaking wet. That is scary on many different levels.
I understand what you are saying but when my kids are stressed I always leave them to calm down and then come to me x we know that it probably wasnt her but her ghost anyway 😥🙏may she RIP xx
Yeah, and knowing all too well what went on in those days, I have to also wonder why the poor girl refused to go home until well after dark. That was not a good era in which to be a woman or a child... :(
I had a strange encounter on here about 10yrs ago. I was driving on a narrow stretch of this road with my partner when she shouted at me to watch out for the woman walking along the side of the road. I saw nobody and I checked my rear view mirror as we supposedly went past the woman my partner could see. I saw nothing. I wasn’t going fast and it was daytime, I would have seen anyone on the road. Her description was that she was wearing what she thought was like a white fur coat which was odd. Especially as that part of the road is in the middle of nowhere. I got spooked when I read about this story a good few months later in a book called haunted Bristol.
And today my parents will be driving past there.
Spooky!
I love stories like these I haven't heard before. Thanks for sharing friend
Glad you enjoyed
As always another consistently great video and story.
I love your channel. Thank you for providing such amazing content. You tell these stories with compassion and really capture the story so profoundly!
I live 5 minutes away from there and fish it on a regular basis. I would never be there after dark.
Lee Husher hhahaha chicken
Funny but real is that it's the same whether is day or night. After Dark is an ancient primal fear back when humans were hunted by animals before gaining the knowledge of weapons.
Why, is it creepy? Something about it? Do you fish after dark at other places? Just curious. There ARE places creepier after dark than others.
Wolfchacer01 Yeah. We can’t get rid of that. It’s ingrained. It’s hard to imagine with lighting, but true. Even with weapons, we still get the heebie geebies in the woods.
Go skinny dipping be a rebel!
Excellent, thank you. Am very familiar with this lovely area of Somerset.
David Cusack and me I regularly visit the malt and salt it’s gert lush
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Hello from NZ. Absolutely brilliant as always.
Hello fellow kiwi. From Wellington nz. A paranormal lover!!
Hello from Manchester England
I live very near chew valley lake and have heard of the lady of the lake story many times ( it’s very chilling to hear it every time as I live pretty much on the B3114) thanks for sharing this story and telling the rest of the world
Wonderful story as always and so well told. Thank you for putting so much work & time into your videos.
It was fun, but took a while.
Top quality video as always. Thanks Curios World!
Super interesting video as always. Thanks for uploading.
Excellent as always.
Very beautifully done!
These are so well done...great work..thank you
I am and have been always fascinated by short ghost stories like yours. I subscribed immediately a give you big like right now before I forget. Thank you so much
Also Barrow Gurney was a psychiatric hospital from 1938, closed in 2006. Many used to tell tales of ghost stories from old residents or prisoners, who had died in mysterious circumstances and haunt the area. Spooky!
Well done as usual, my friend. Thanks so much.
Thanks, Cindy.
Another great narrated story, thank you.
I am happy I found your channel. You tell a complete, fair, factual chain of events. Refreshing in a world where all seems to be told with a slanted bias. Thank you for interesting content delivered so well!
Excellent, as always.
Excellent video as always 😎☘️
Brilliant video, very interesting, I have shared to my paranormal groups and page.
I just love these wee spooky stories 😁
I love this channel ❤️ you are so good at story telling! It gives me chills
I'm glad that I'm coherent. Sometimes I wonder. 😅
Just happened to come across your channel today - June 5th 2024. I had no idea this story would take place on the same day in 1999.
May Catherine Brown rest in peace.
A good case, with a few different sightings. Thank you 😊
An absolutely *brilliant* upload as always. The quality of your documentary work and video production is amazingly high--it looks and sounds completely professional. This is also the second time you have featured a book I already own--I have a signed copy of the Holt collection of Sommerset legends on the shelf above my computer! Quite amusing.
Just as an aside, did you perhaps frequent the old 'GhostsUK' site before it closed down? If so we may well have brushed shoulders so-to-speak in the early 2000s.
I have a signed copy of that book too! Although I only purchased it for this video's research. No, I don't think I ever used the Ghotsts UK site before. Thanks for the support and the kind words.
@@CuriousWorldProductions I only mentioned GUK because I recall reading quite an in depth thread there about this case. It was considered a very significant sighting because of the multiple, isolated witnesses. It was actually reading that long post which led to my buying the book! There was an Aussie faux docu-drama called 'Lake Mungo' which came out about a decade ago that covered some of the same ground and I always wondered if the screen writer had read about the event as well.
Sadly GUK is now long gone but I believe the ghost-hunting outfit behind it may well still be around. For myself I have never really bought in to all the cargo-cult science of emf meters and the like, but there were some really dedicated and good people on the board and in the company.
Anyway, looking forward to the next upload as ever.
@@morelenmir I've never met anyone who has heard of, let alone seen Lake Mungo. It's a great ghost story! I love that movie.
@@CuriousWorldProductions Yup!!! The atmosphere is intense and the staging _really_ works. When I first saw the film; at the point where the bereaved mother recounts how the dripping wet apparition of her daughter came to her, stood at the bottom of the bed screaming I immediately thought of the Chew lake sightings. The final twist with the supposedly debunked photographs was just *class* as well!!!
I am a very big fan of the docu-drama variant of found-footage, it reminds me of 'GhostWatch'.
Very interesting and well done. Thanks CW💜
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching.
Hello from South Carolina, USA..I just subscribed . I enjoy ghost stories.. thank you for updating this.
Cool stories my friend
Thank you again! You are a wonderful narrator.
I live about a half hour from chew valley lake, and about 20mins from Barrow Gurney (they used to have a mental hospital there) Just down the road from Bristol Airport, chew lakes is a lovely place.
A wonderful upload. Thank you so much. Best wishes.
Thanks, Shona. Appreciate it.
I love a good ghost story
I really enjoy the ghost stories you do, I hope you will do some from east Anglia, Essex and Suffolk have so many
First time I have watched one of your films and thought it excellent! I know the herons green road very well but have never heard of the ghost. Next time I drive that way I will be very curious. Looking forward to watching another and have subscribed 😀
I really love your work! great job.
Omg I regularly go and never even knew this. Thanks for such interesting content you know more about my area than me
a friend of mine told me about a fully formed aparition sighting he had, this was seen by a group of people, ages ranging from children to adults, at the same time. so i believe it to be true. it is not the ones you mentioned in your video. nice work with your presentation.
When I was little we always used to stop by Chew Valley Lake on our way to Brean down, I hated it and would never leave the car it is such a creepy place.
How is it creepy I live right near it it’s just a lake and a chippy
I really love your videos and voice... very nice 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Another solid bout of storytelling, balanced with excellent background research.
Thanks, Nick. I thought you'd appreciate this old tale. Always good to read your feedback.
Hey there from leeds another quality video well done
Cheers, I've always found that road a bit creepy. I wonder if there's been anything seen at nearby Gibbet Hill by the Castle of Comfort? That pub might worth researching (it is a very nice place.)
Keep them coming!
Very well-told. I live not far from Chew Valley, so will remember this next time of passing through. There's a stone circle in the area where 21st June and December are celebrated. RiP Catherine Brown.
I'm a fairly new Subscriber to your broadcasts and tend to be rather choosey, but your broadcasts are fantastic. Well Done, You.
Thank you, Kim.
Brilliant!
Fantastic story x
Excellent video Curious World. You are really getting good at this craft. The tale is spooky, and it would be a very fun and frightful watch at nighttime. The video footage was very well done. A+ my friend. Somerset looks so beautiful.
Thanks Todd, I'm glad you and so many others liked it. A friend of mine shot the drone footage, so I can't take credit for that.
I grew up around the lake area and I never heard of any haunting there. However go a couple of miles south to the Mendip hills and there are many ghost legends. Thanks for this post, incredibly interesting to hear these stories. FYI, Blagdon has a large reservoir as well. I've Heard the Barrow Gurney one. Check out the Brockley wood area near Bristol airport, some positively scary stories there especially Brockley Coombe.
79K Subscribers ! 👍 So happy that so many people have found your amazing channel ! Recommed you all over the Internet ! ❤️ Thank you for another amazing story ! Will keep recommend you to everyone I can think off ! ❤️ Fantastic stuff and always brilliantly told / narrated . Many thanks for the video !
Thank you for your support over the last few years, Fruitbat. It's very much appreciated.
This was so well done!! :-D
Thanks, Mary.
Yr stories make me so happy!! And scared.....but happy!🤣🥂
I've been fortunate in that the biggest paranormal events in my life (full body apparition/shadow people) have always occurred in the company of at least one other person and in one case, 2 other people. So at least 4 people know I'm not crazy or a liar with regard to those paranormal events. Another excellent story and presentation. You never disappoint!
Celia Lovett i am so fascinated by this! Can u tell a few?
There are no such things as ghosts
This is an incredible story from the past
I love you're videos
My wifes grand parents were lakeside lighthouse keepers. one day as the wife looked out across the hard frozen lake she saw a man fall through the ice. Her husband and neighbors went to rescue the man but found no man and no hole in the ice. The following day the couple received a phone call that on the previous day the wifes brother had fallen through the ice some 30+ miles away and had drown.
Wow, when was this?
@@CuriousWorldProductions It was the lighthouse at Wind Mill Point on Lake Champlain across from Rouses Point NY, now privately owned. It was built in the 1830's. It had to have been in the 1910ish period. The lighthouse itself was haunted being built as it was atop an Indian burial ground and the site of many a slain captive by the tribes of the Great Lakes against their foes the Iroquois. Indians of the period were cannibalistic a fact not commonly known. The Grand Parents that tended the Lighthouse raised 5 girls and 5 boys on the site. One day an adventurous young girl among them, while playing on the shore, discovered a human skull protruding from the sand and brought it home much to the horror of her screaming mother. The border on Lake Champlain between NY and Canada is rife with odd occurrences. My wife having been raised there has her fair share and as we as a family lived there a one point also have out collective stories. Interested?
@@babyrazor6887 Very much. You should start your own channel with storytelling like that. I'll look at the history, I've never heard of it before. Thank you.
@@CuriousWorldProductions I'm 72 now, my wife is 66 and at this time in life we don't have time to BS people so the stories we'll relate to you are all legit. 1.) When my wife was 6 years old her parents and younger brother went on a picnic on the shores of Lake Champlain. The young girl walked onto a short dock and gazed into the lake. As she turned and started to walk away she heard a noise behind her. Turning she saw what appeared to be two small web like hands at the end of the dock. As she watched a small black head with gills appeared. This is where she screamed and ran back to her nearby family. She told her parents what she had seen and her father went to investigate. There was no creature to be seen however at the end of the dock where two wet spots the size of a childs hand. My wife relates that even years after the event she recalls her father relating the story to he's fishing friends who didn't seem surprised by the story at all and often recounted stories of their own. My wifes mother, who was an excellent swimmer and would on occasion swim the width of the lake and back never swam in the lake again and forbid her children to do so as well. 2.) My wife was a teen living in Rouses Point NY. Behind the house were railroad tracks that ran all the way down to and past the S.A.C. base in Plattsburg. One day she was in the kitchen doing the dishes and glancing out the back window. Suddenly, over the tracks, about 10' above, slowly, quietly, gliding by her window came a classic saucer shaped UFO. It was small and seemed to be following the tracks. She hurried outside to see more but the craft was gone. My wife concluded that it coming from the direction of the S.A.C. base was no coincidence. She described it as silver with no apparent windows or lights as such and soundless. Personally I don't care if you believe these two stories or not. I can only state that my wife is a meat and potatoes kind of girl that doesn't take to fabrications. On my next day off I'll type you a few more. You might want to contact the Plattsburg Free Press and see if somewhere in their archives is a photo they published in the 50's or early 60's of a sturgeon caught in Lake Champlain it was so large the in the photo they show it suspended by a crane.
Great story telling. I enjoy your paranormal mysteries much more than the murder mysteries.
Thank you. There's a real split with my subscribers. Some people hate these videos and enjoy the crime videos.
Curious World I like them all, keep 'em coming!
Great video m8...well done, thoroughly enjoyed it. One complaint...too short...hahaha...jst kdn.
Sorry Drew, I try not to string it out. Thanks for watching.
Great vid fella as always ! Your presentation is awesome cant wait for more ! And come on people over 5k views and only 569 likes??? Press that like button it takes a second !!!
Thanks John. That's over 10%, which isn't bad as things go.
Thank you
LIKE bc it was very interesting.
Intriguing
Two questions;
1) So the mother witnessed the daughters return. Would nt the mother send word to the searchers that girl had (supposedly) turned up? You wouldnt just let people carry on searching and worrying.
2) The girl having turned up.
Again you wouldnt just leave her entirely alone ....
.......ok perhaps there is enough flexibilty in the tale.
Also, the missing daughter having turned up, wouldn't the distraught mother have grabbed and hugged her - or at least touched her on the arm or shoulder? And found that she was either real, or a phantom?
Late, but how could she have contacted the searchers? There were no mobile phones at the time. She would have had to go out, in the dark, and search for the searchers, who could have been anywhere since she'd last seen them, leaving her presumably in-shock daughter alone in the house while she did so. I don't think that would have been feasible. Waiting for them to return for the night probably would be more sensible.
I have driven along this road and A 38 Barrow lane junction many many times late at night as I worked shifts for quite a few years in Portishead living in Shepton and I am fortunate to have never experienced anything like this albeit I was aware of the Chew Valley Lady.
Watching from the USA and I'm like noo those cars are driving on the wrong side of the road!! 🤣
I knew this comment would come before I even uploaded the video.
Lol! 😆
I'd b in an accident, my first day there 😂 🤪.
Ive been to Chew Lake lotsve times you can sail boats on it its nice
I lived in Bradord on avon during the early 70s.
Chew valley lake was discussed at the time.
My stepfather’s secretary was the last baby to be born in the village, and christened in the church. RIP Mary 🙏🏻
Always interesting and as you say this might be a "choice of two" apparitions! Also raises the interesting question of what are we really seeing? Is what we "see" in such cases "really" there or is our brain trying to interpret something as a vision? I'm very certain what I "saw" in Portland was definitely there (and seemed to be there for well over 10 seconds), but there was no other physical evidence of the presence. Interesting that others "saw" a similar entity on other occasions, which I tend to find quite reassuring! :-D
What did you see?
@@michaell6807 I was renting a property in Clovens Road, Fortuneswell, Portland (UK), and saw what can be best described as a "man" looking very similar to the cloaked figure that used to be on the Sandemans Port label. Whatever it was, moved across the fairly small kitchen area and through a wall (where a door used to be decades ago). This was definitely not a "corner of the eye" mis-identification - I was able to look straight at whatever this was for a good 10 - 12 seconds, and, as said above, I later found out that my apparition was fairly well known, having been seen around the Clovens Road area by many people over the years. The locals told me "he" was one of a number of apparitions, all seamen, all lost at sea over a period of years. The house across the road from mine was "home" to an entire ghostly family (who were killed in the early 1800's as a result of a house fire). Again, many had reported seeing the family, or at least family members.
I haven't forgotten this story, Phil. May I use it in a future video?
@@CuriousWorldProductions Absolutely no problem! It would be interesting if you might apply your considerable research skills to the Portland area as a whole - there seems to be a lot of spiritual / paranormal activity there (for example HMP Verne had many reports of ghostly goings-on in and near the old stables). Dorchester is a bit of a paranormal hot-bed too (not surprising seeing the history - HMP Dorchester was Judge Jefferies' "hanging Prison" after all and there are plenty of tales of hauntings in the tunnel that used to lead from the Tea Rooms to the Prison - the final journey for many accused and "convicted").
@@phils4634 You've certainly sold it.
Really enjoyed this! Great research and good narration with plenty of detail. Thanks Curious World - look forward to your next vid.
Not long until the next one. Thanks for watching.
You may never see this apparition again or it might again be seen on this same day and month some time down the road when conditions are right again for it to display.
Again, beautifully photographed and told, in a factual, understated way. I've heard other stories - the Roman soldiers at York is a good example - where the spirits, if that is what they indeed are, appear quite unaware of subsequent changes to the areas where they formerly lived. So if it was Catherine's ghost, she wouldn't take any notice of the new lake, as it certainly wouldn't inconvenience her. But wouldn't the old cemetery's graves have been exhumed and reinterred before the flooding?
Holy crap, I live in west harptree near the lake and I had no clue there was a spirit that walks here
Would you do one on Bristol Uk hauntings? There's a lot to chose from, the soldier of college green, the ghost of Christmas steps, the White Hart next to the coach station and there's a pub by the Riverside that leads into the caves in the cliffside that was used to cage slaves, there's also Stoke park that's reputed to be haunted by a woman on a horse who fell from her horse and broke her neck, I'm not sure if it's still there but there was also a tree there that still have the grooves made by rope from when they used to hang criminals
My sister's grandad when he was young with his friend found a man hanging from a tree and when they returned with a policeman there was nothing there. In horse and carriage days a large part of that area was woodland that merchants would have to pass through, so highwaymen style crimes were common, the dower house itself is interesting it used to be a mental asylum
Those caves were never at any time used to house slaves. People have desperately tried to 'prove' that slaves were kept at all sorts of places in Bristol in the 1700s and before, but it is all just fantasy. If you are referring to Redcliff caves, they are mines.
I thought about doing a dedicated Bristol anthology video, but I prefer to do videos on dedicated cases when they're so local to me.
i live by there been there one time and thought nice island took some photos and left with out knowing what happened there weird to think about.
A sorrowful story😢
Another home run!!!!
I was walking through the church yard very late at night in chew magna and as I walk I saw this guy walking around the graves in a hood digging up the flowers. His face when he looked at me was completely black and it couldn’t see it , then I ran off
Interesting stories. Thank you.
I have that book 'Old North Somerset' I remember watching the original Chew Valley Lake documentary where the woman being interviewed talked about the girl Catherine Brown and it made me want to read it. The fact that the book says Catherine's mother saw her daughters ghost before her body was found was enough to convince me that the ghost girl who was walking across the road could quite possibly be the same spirit. I wonder if there have been any more recent sightings of her.
Can't believe Stratford mill was re-erected, what a spooky twist to Catherine Browns story.
The idea that she was drowned accidentally in a small creek seems absurd, more like murdered probably after being raped. Sad story and calls for more investigation if that's even possible.
I was thinking the same thing.
@@Useaname Then again if she tripped and hit her head and was unconcious it could be accidental, just seemed suspicious to me ;)
And most couldn’t swim back then. We take for granted that skill now, when it wasn’t taught unless you were maybe in the military...plus add all the layers women had to wear. Skirt, crinoline, corset(wouldn’t be able to properly breathe),and cloak all made of wool... I’m not saying foul play wasn’t involved but it’s still possible she drowned on her own.
@@nekograce7914 Maybe but people especially Women in those days weren't keen to just wade into a body of water fully clothed for any reasons. Also this was a creek and those typically are less than 2 feet deep which to me screams foul play unless she just decided to lay down and drown, however instincts kick in and she would have failed, drowning yourself is not easy at all unless you take very specific steps to do so which aren't accounted for here.
Wow now I know the true story
It could be that the construction of the lake or reservoir upset another spirit unknown to anyone and the night in 1999 that the apparition was seen corresponded with a date that was important to the ghost. Maybe she was retracing the last walk she took in life or perhaps heading to her former home, even if it is no longer standing. The part that I am struggling with is was it a woman that was seen or a girl? If the person who drowned at the mill pond was a girl, then I highly doubt her spirit was the apparition that was seen since the witnesses describe it as being a woman. Who knows who the apparition might have been or how far back it dates to but I definitely don't think it was the girl who drowned in the mill pond. The clothing the apparition was in can give us clues as to a time period and it would be interesting to further research the history of the area to see if there might be some clue as to a tragedy that occurred that nobody is even thinking of but is recorded somewhere that would give us a name. The time of the sighting also may give us a clue if the apparition has not been seen again since the 1999 sighting. The month and day more than the year may shed some light on where to start looking for possible sources of the apparition and a name. The Stone Tape theory is one that has been espoused by paranormal researchers for a long time and it suggests that intense emotions, events and feelings may actually imprint themselves into the area where these things were felt and then "replay" themselves like a film loop when the time, conditions and witnesses are all in place. I believe the lack of attention given to the witnesses by this entity would classify it as a "Non Intelligent Haunting". It did not interact with the witnesses, paid them no attention at all apparently which leaves me to believe that this is the case. It was simply a moment in time replaying itself because the conditions and time were right for it to do so.
Thanks. It's nice to hear someone trying to explain ghosts and the various types, instead of just scoffing at the notion.
My mum heard an entire roman army march past her one night when she was hanging out washing in the garden. She described the sound of nailed boots on cobbles, metal clanking, coughing, chattering, and hearing the same phrase over and over so she was able to memorise it. My brother who was pretty smart, identified the phrase as Latin, the phrase being roughly translated as "keep in order", I think.
He researched the area and found out than an old Roman Road ran right past the other side of the wall at the bottom of the garden. This was about 1970 at a place called Winklebury outside Basingstoke in Hampshire. There's an estate now where the house used to be, as Basingstoke has expanded and the area is now a suburb.
But one of the roads on the estate is called Winklebury drive, or street. Something like that.
I have seen several ghosts and strange things happen in a village not that far from there
Ah she came home
I only live down the road and was there a month or so back.