Ladies of the Lakes, case one: Carol Ann Park
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- This is the first of three videos exploring three cases of women who were found in the waters of England's Lake District between 1976 and 1988.
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What do people make of my recent narrations? I used to get a lot of criticism for this, but I think I've improved the delivery and audio since a few months ago.
I thought it was great. I do like your accent as well. I can't wait for the rest in the series.
Curious World great work !
Curious World You sound fine brother! Your accent is common to where in England? Thanks for all of your interesting videos. Peace and love from West Virginia!
Hi CW, IMHO, your narration is professional, your delivery is measured and clear, combined with your accent and feeling, it also suits the 'material' you present ideally.
I think you have a lovely voice, great delivery!
I could listen to this guy narrate an electrical instruction manual and still be completely absorbed.
Listening to stories of horrible deaths should not be so calming.
Hahahaha!
But this kind of story telling is comforting. It's the mellow voice
I feel like I could fall asleep listening to this guy if I'm struggling. 😆
We cannot avoid the reality that we live among murderers. But what this does is give hope that murder will be investigated and prosecuted.
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Well done, better than a lot of TV documentaries, you dealt with this sensitive subject like a true professional.
I watched the 2007 ITV documentary and the 2013 one by Channel 5, and I'm sure they both had an agenda (make Park look as guilty as possible), especially the ITV one. The amount of information they left out was criminal in itself.
It is far better then the bbc.
One of the things that really adds extra upset for me is that he then told his children that their mother abandoned them, doing grave harm to the children a second time. Terrible. And I've noticed that scenario in quite a few crime stories.
But she certainly abandoned them once; when she left to live with a man in the North-East.
Terrible situations arise when couples fight over control, children and cash. Thank you for your work and blessings to you and yours.
Trish Robinson
Too often children are seen as living trophies by divorcing parents.
Adults constantly project their own fear insecurities and pride and ego onto children. Whether big or small. We all either see people who do it, or have done it. Most likely we have at least observed others doing it. Whether we want to admit it or not.. I have seen so many people punish their children over their own anger towards the partner or ex partner
Trish Robinson well said!
So he's a mountain climber, and she was seemingly killed by an ice climbing pick? That alone should ring just SOME bells.
A lot of people are mountain climbers in that area. If a woman gets murdered and she's having domestic problems it in no way means that is the reason just look at how many couples split up.
Now there's a rather rash leap to judgement. There were probably another eleven like you on the jury. I'm excellent with knots, have something very similar to an ice axe and frequent Coniston regularly. Would that make me a viable suspect in your eyes? What about the police diver having no recollection whatsoever of bringing up that rock. Now that stinks! If he was in Blackpool and she was in the house it stands to reason, given her number of 'gentleman friends' that the mixer weapon could have come from the house. It certainly doesn't mean he was the one who did it. Absolutely no real forensic evidence, extremely unreliable witnesses and the possibility of evidence tampering makes me wonder how the hell the jury came to that conclusion 'beyond all reasonable doubt'. British law isn't the be all and end all....far, far from it.
It is almost ALWAYS a family member (husband/wife, other family) that committed the crime, he did this, you're fooling yourself to believe otherwise.
He was controlling to the point of retaining her wages, he probably wanted the open marriage in the first place so that he could have a ammunition on her.
She seemed to have found someone that she got along with before she felt the tug of motherhood so strong that she put her feelings aside and went back to a loveless marriage.
She clearly got enough ammo of her own in order to divorce him and gain custody of the children, so he killed her, end of story.
@@Biffo1262 No you would not be a suspect because you were not in a controlling relationship with her.
Yes! That *P R O V E S* Gordon did it!!
idiot
Uh huh. A stranger is going to dump her clothing and jewelry in the lake too. Hmmm. Wonder how the children reconcile that. How sad.
The cognitive dissonance they probably have! Naturally loving your dad, and at the same time, knowing in the back of your mind that he probably killed mum.
A stranger wouldn't, but a lover or friend she was moving out with and thus getting a ride from (with her stuff) might have. Not saying that's what happened, husband probably did it, but all it directly proves is that she had a connection to her killer, not who it was.
How creepy and callous that he liked to go boating on the lake knowing his wife's body was at the bottom of it.
Dreaming Dreamer Probably keeping watch in case her body ever resurfaced!!
I was thinking 🤔 the same thing @ Dreaming Dreamer!
Probably smiling to himself that no one would find her.
That's the sort of thing makes people doubt, honestly. It doesn't really mean anything one way or the other, but if all things were equal my first thought would be that it's because he didn't know she was down there. Don't get me wrong: given this video is literally all I know about the case, I'm not saying he's innocent by any stretch. It's just that these sorts of assertions and questions can only cloud the situation.
That's very common in people who kill. They almost always return to the sight where the murder was committed, or where the cadaver is located. It's a way of reliving the act and gives them a sense of power all over again. Sick.
On face value I'd have to say that he did it, but that's on the basis of an (excellently done) 18min video. The circumstantial evidence is too dancing - who'd go to the bother of setting him up by using an ice-axe & a boat on his usual lake when in all likelihood the body would never have been found, except for exceptional luck?
People are nearly always murdered by someone they know, with a motive, and Gordon Park certainly had that.
I'm afraid to say that his supporters may be blinded by false reasoning.
Great video as always.
Yes it seems highly likely he did it. I don't know what the standard of evidence required for conviction is in the UK but based on this video alone I have a shadow of doubt that he did it.
1) It sure looks like the only lake in the area, which would make it the obvious choice to be his favorite.
2) It looks like a long lake, making it an excellent choice for a sailing enthusiast.
3) And what about the Aunt's killer? He was around when Carol disappeared.
@MysteryFan ... It was very good practice for me on a 9 mile by
This is the first I've heard of the case, but I tend to agree. My problem is that, if this video is accurate, the police seemed to have an odd tunnel vision about his guilt. I don't like it when reasonable accusations of evidence-planting come up. The stone, the knot. It reeks of "we know he's guilty, so we're going to do whatever it takes to make sure he winds up behind bars." It makes me wonder what made them THAT certain, and if any other possibilities were even considered or looked into.
The narration was spot on. Very sad storey for all involved, life can be so tragic.
What a well researched, well presented and thoroughly interesting film. Well done!
Just found your content on TH-cam. I must say I adore your voice; very rich overtones, perfect for this type of content. 👍🏻
Excellent production as always, I'm looking forward to the next two videos of this mini series. Keep up the good work!
Another great video. I live in Cumbria it's a great place, but not for the people who where murdered of course. I think you Narrate quite well. Keep up good work. Susan
How sad and tragic for the children whose lives were affected by the news media, the police and the general public. Thank you for such a detailed documentary.
Well done! I believe he did it. Not even a shadow of a doubt, in my mind. I believe the only reason his kids believe he was innocent, is because he had over 20 years to drill into their minds that their mother left them. After hearing that lie for long enough, they bought it. And Gordon took the cowards way out. The last line got me though, that poor girl, to lose 2 mother's before you're 10 years old is so sad. I hope she recovered, and that she didn't believe his lying ass.
I agree killing yourself when you believe yourself to be innocent is a bit self incriminating
Something that struck me particularly is in the photos of them together she is always looking directly at the camera he seems to be looking away, he's unsmiling and even his body language looks uncomfortable and almost defensive but he definitely has dead eyes. To me he shouts out hidden mental health problems the kind that only rise slowly to show themselves to their chosen target.
He may have just been an Aspie. They tend not to smile much or understand or display common body language.
I was thinking the same thing. The photos from before she was with him, when she was younger, she is happy. Beaming. But after her marriage with him, you can see her entire energy and aura change. It really shows through the pictures. He did it.
Yeah I know the type. Other People think they're nice but behind closed doors, in the depths of their minds they're horrible Monsters.
The sale of the boat convinces me that he got rid of it to detach himself from the crime. Even so, I am not sure that I ould comfortably find him guilty, though I think he seems guilty. His attitude toward her disturbs me, but that is not enouh to convict a man.
Christ, how tragic for the children to grow up not knowing the truth
lilly waters the sad part is they probably never will know what really happened to their mother.😔
@@skyandropoulos2305 IMO his suicide says it all he was caught no one was ever going to become a scapegoat for him, he knew he was never getting out.
They are in denial.
These are really interesting and well done. You have a great voice for this thing. Cheers.
I'm new so I don't know how you other vids were but I'm truly enjoying this one, great delivery and lovely accent. Well done.
These are incredibly created documentaries. Surprised you only have 31K Subs. These are better than Top 5's for sure, not that Top 5 is bad or anything, his are good to, but these are really well edited, and the music works perfectly as well.
I'm a fan of Top5s. He doesn't spend long on the edits, but his audio is very good and he makes videos he knows will be popular. I tend to make videos I like - and I just hope they become popular.
And thank you.
I just saw your Covent underground railway station hauntings ,then black nun and then ladies of lakes...
And I found myself subscribed to your channel....
You have done great job and after a long time , I have come across contents so unique...
Keep the good and hard work up ,dear⚘💝
+cutiepie29ify Thank you.
Great work on this case, the amount of time you put into the script really shows!
Agreed.
This case is a tough one. I usually think yep the husband did it but there was such a lack of real evidence. Terrible for the children to go through all of this.
An excellent and riveting story ...( narration excellent by the way👍) amazing he managed to hide all evidence of the actual murder scene, as there must have been a Lot of blood, and I’m surprised none of the children recollect a lot of shouting and noise from that time. How sad that jealousy and anger can cause such destruction in so many peoples lives...like ripples when a stone thrown in a pond...they.affect all connected people,right up to include his last wife. Sad for the children, esp adopted niece. Thankyou for sharing . 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It's not only tragic that young Vanessa lost two mothers to murder, but also that Carol and her sister's parents lost two daughters to these heinous crimes. Vanessa also has two alleged monsters for fathers (although I don't know whether the man who killed her biological mother was her father). I hope that she has a strong spirit and support system-she has been through the unthinkable ... twice. 💕
I would like to commend you on a fabulous job of reporting in these video reports by yourself, in assembling your material and then presenting it in a very professional manner.
Thank you. 1stPC? Are you a copper?
:D Not t all. The PC is for Personal Computer. I usually use *PC_Ferret* as a nickname for my software development business. I used to use *DataFerret* but had that appropriated by someone else back in the 1990's; I've been *PC_Ferret* ever since.
Ah, I see. Thank you for the compliment.
That's funny; I just signed on to say that I think you have a wonderful voice for narration. Smooth, even, distinct. Actually, I can easily see you narrating for public television, documentaries etc.
You have really nice and well made videos, really like your channel
Saludos desde México
So very sad.. I remember when her remains were discovered... the fact that despite Coniston being a very deep water... her body landed on that shelf... Someone wanted her found.Excellent video as always... Thank you.. Looking forward to the next installment.. Enjoy mulling over your content on the boring daily trudge into work 😉 Two dislikes 😶 SMH 😥
I think some people dislike because of the subject-matter, rather than the video itself... then again, I could be wrong.
Curious World I think they were giving the dislikes to having to go to work
Just found your channel.....I'm a fan!
Stories like this are why I never fuck with random packages. There is either gonna be a damn body or a bomb in there and I don’t want either.
Particularly dark episode this one. I'm not really looking forward to the next two (but I'll certainly be watching them!). Excellent presentation as usual!
@curiousworld I love your stories & your narration you don't shout too get your point across or have stupid background noises ! Just a nice crisp narration with some very juicy stories great for when I can't sleep ty (fellow Brit Danimac 🙏🙋
Wow a local case to me! I’m just up the road from Coniston, it’s a beautiful area but also very... spooky? I think that’s the right word. All the lakes in cumbria have a dark history behind them, there’s anything up to 11 bodies currently in Lake Ullswater so they say. Thanks for covering a local case!
Well done, I can see you put a lot of research into this. Looking forward to the next case.
Well done.
I've enjoyed them. Your voice is relaxing and the stories are very interesting and leave me with more questions 😆
Thank you. Well done. I enjoyed listening and watching. Blessings to Carol. 🌹🌷🥀 😢
He was my teacher in 1980. Odd bloke in many ways.
Really??
@@ashutoshsharma4954 Yep. Bizarrely, he also taught me to sail.
@@evo5dave and how to dispose of a body?
@@leejones8582 lol
@@leejones8582 Never got to that lesson!
I think your narration skills are outstanding. You speak clearly and with perfect cadence. In addition, the tone of your voice is decidedly not hisrionic. Superb job!
abusive controlling men are always believed and well loved by everyone
One of the better narrators I've heard on these kind of videos. Lovely voice and excellent videos
Wow, you've put a lot of work into this mysterious case. Great video with a lot of atmosphere due to the decent music!
He looks somehow guilty but tbh I've no clue if he really did it (similar to the rest of the world).
The fate of his niece losing two mothers to murder before reaching the age of ten is extremely tragic.
How ironic that Carol moved back into the family home because Gordon was making it difficult for her to see her children regularly.
Chances are, if she had stayed away, she would still be alive and able to watch her family grow up...
R.I.P Carol 🌹
I am on the board of a women's protection group. The most dangerous time for a woman is not after a divorce, but when she is separated and fighting for custody and/or independence.😕
Women normally do this too men they just dont kill them because the courts do that for them
Fantastic, I really enjoy your work. Thanks for the entertainment.
Ice ax, mountaineer. Jeeze, that's a mystery.
Very good video. Thank you for covering this sad story of a woman murdered by her husband. I'm sure he did it. Smashing her face so brutally is indicative of anger/fury.
Interesting. That was a very good presentation.
Exceptional as always. First one to show up on my list in awhile. TH-cam again? Oh well I'll look for more. TY CW!😱🎃😍
A bit late with my reply. You have a very nice voice & as a result enjoyed the video. Thank you
Excellent story telling bro!! This vid does give a small insight into the british judicial system. Well told. Kept me riveted.
A case I remember quite well. Beautifully presented. A nice look down through the years even though murder is the topic. You didn't glorify this subject matter. Well done you.
You hear of this so often , controlling behavior.
The husband looks a nasty piece of work.
The lady looks bloody miserable.
Returned to the house and bastard husband for the kids.
I shouldnt happen.
The courts let her down.
Usually it's done by women also courts also favor women so this is one of the outliers
@@jgonzalez5884 Where are your statistics?
@@moviemad56 It's literally entry level common sense based off of everyday easily observable factual events. This isn't a new discovery to anyone including yourself. Stop playing stupid and acting like what we all know is he truth somehow isn't the truth because you choose to put opinions or agendas ahead of common sense. If you cannot do that then no level of factual information will change your mind as it is impossible to reason with someone to stupid to be reasoned with. Common sense is free - use it.
@@Henry5623
F*(K - you're boring. :D
I think you've done a brilliant job. Thank you for your videos.
What a screwed up couple! I have no idea how ANY mother could leave her kids, including her adopted niece who had lost her own mother to murder, to move in with her affair partner. No good ever comes of open marriages,i.e. adultery. People don't stop to consider the consequences of their actions. Those poor kids! Imagine their confusion, grief and embarrassment!
Terrific video.. Thanks so much for posting.
Im binge watching this channel right now.
When the title said "Ladies of the Lake", I mistakenly thought this video was gonna be about the ghost story.
William Norton
Lol, same here!
CW deals with many tales.
In my country there are true 2 ghostly figures of lady in foyez lake. One is evil another is helpful.
Thought it wud be Avilon and Sir Bedivere going to the lake to return Excalibur. Ofcourse thts the 1st thought 💭 tht comes to mind.
there are a million ghost stories referred to as the lady of the lake or the lady of ___ lake. this is a series covering some of those stories
What an odd case. Thanks for the video. (PS good audio: nice work)
I love how you narrate the stories.
Thank you.
Thank you! nonsensationalized , interesting narration of thematically-linked crime stories.
Great video keep it up!
I enjoy watching these kinds of videos. When I was young I read a lot of mystery books.
Fantastic video!
So well narrated and edited, I so enjoyed this that I have subscribed, you have a lovely clear and perfect voice for narrating! TYFS
Your narration was excellent enjoyed the story very much and looking forward to the next installment, thanku👍just subscribed too👍
A very well put together story. Thank you!
Nicely done!!!!
Great videos! Great work!👍
Was the rock used as evidence? Because if the diver did not, as per his recollection recover it and if there are no records of it being recovered that is a major red flag. Either of fabrication of evidence or the whole case being shoddily put together, shoddy enough to caste doubt on *anything* they claim.
Added to this eye witness statements from the time of her leaving I think there is plenty of room for doubt here.
Your videos are amazing, thank you :)
I remember this case from the ITV crime documentary series you mentioned, i miss those shows, I'd like them to make some more...Thanks for the video anyway...
If everything stated in the video is accurate, it would not be enough evidence to convict Parks. I'm interested to know what was presented at trial to convince the jury of his guilt.
I can only hope that he actually was guilty, because the conviction and subsequent suicide of an innocent man is very sad.
The suicide proves his guilt he knew no one else did it but him.
I really appreciate the fact that you dont use a robo voice for narration. Great, well researched content as well. Good job.
i love your videos i remember the documentary about this
Perfect choice of music. Thank you.
Very good sir, and fitting for the content , thank you.
Really enjoy your narrations, thank you for all the lovely wee tit bits of information, I find them most interesting. Have subscribed and look forward to following more of your uploads.
i JUST subscribed to your channel and BAM new video in my notifications! great content, man! thanks a lot😊
As an ex-resident of 'The Lakes' I can reveal that for years after Campbell's death (I witnessed it) Conniston Water was locally known as "Campbell's Soup"......
You do an excellent job in narration and presentation.
Here is one for you, the Pirate Queen of Connemara, Ireland. Grace O'Malley I think. Iwas friends with a relative. :)
Greatly done documentary, this is an art-form within journalism, both moody and informing
seems from the narration given that the police had some personal vendetta with the man... though that could have be just the way it is presented here, I would not be able to tell since I do not have any other sources.
God Bless the children 🙏
At first totally thought it was him by the end of it with the sister's murderer getting out and being around too damn I don't think I could have convicted
Well done series. Methodical studies and presentation of the weird and diabolical. I'm hooked!
Glad you like them, Dave. Cheers.
This poor woman. It's terrible to see how the abuse from her husband was brushed off and she was blamed for leaving him. Even now she's being held responsible for her own murder, as though it can be justified because she chose to escape her unbearable situation. Misogyny sucks.
Rory So does Misandry!
Thank you for the videos. Love the older missing and murder stories.💕
great video I actually watched it twice . . .
You did a awesome work on this video
Praying for her family & friends 🙏🏻
Interesting, good job
I love this guy's voice!
I really enjoy your presentations
Stumbled upon your channel today.
Excellent content. ❤💕😊
Thanks very much.
Just found your channel and subcribed. Excellent video.
Excellent reporting.Have subscribed.
..Everything does point to the husband, but I wonder if her policeman lover was ever seriously in the frame? Carol left her husband for him, then later returned home. Could he have been jealous and took revenge? And the fact he was in the police force means he would have a better idea than most of just what investigators were searching for, and how to cover his tracks.
As I understand it she went back to her husband because he was making it awkward for her to see her children..that's enough very often for an absent wife to return to her husband..
My understanding is that she had enough evidence to divorce and gain custody, he was about to lose control.
Hey CW, I'm a big fan of your content. You're extremely underrated. Just a suggestion, it would be awesome to see you look into real zombie accounts and fish out some facts from the fiction. I know there are some historical cases which would be interesting. I would personally love to see that and think many others would enjoy that also.
Edd Barnard I've thought about this many times. I'm so skeptical about it, though. Can you suggest a case?