Furrion Chill Air Conditioner Review - 14.5K BTU Replacement Model for Coleman Mach 3

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  • @LoveYourRV
    @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Installation Video* - www.loveyourrv.com/furrion-chill-14-5k-btu-ac-installation-replacing-old-coleman-mach-3/
    Furrion Chill 14.5K Lippert Website - store.lci1.com/furrion-chill-replacement-rv-air-conditioner-and-conversion-kit-furrion-chill-with-conv-kit

    • @joeboxter3635
      @joeboxter3635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Worst thing anyone can do is buy an RV ac. It's bad for your pocket book. It's bad for the RV industry. It's bad for the environment.
      They are the gas guzzlers of RV world and as long as people blindly buy them instead of residential split air which are cheaper to purchase and operate, are better for environment, and the only way to force RV industry to improve.
      Ray you are way too smart to do this Furrion option and not split air. So I hope Furrion gave you unit, at least.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could give me a free residential mini split, and I wouldn't want it for my trailer. Too many cons for me personally, since 10 months of the year or more, it would sit unused, taking up space. I see them as beneficial for hot-weather boondockers or people who have to spend most of their camping time in the heat. Still not ideal, though. They need better product design options than trying to DIY hack in a unit meant for residential use where the outdoor unit can be placed out of eyesight. I guess it's not that easy, though, or some companies would be offering them. Maybe they are, and I'm not aware, though, since AC isn't a big thing for us. Electricity is included in the campsite fee in the RV parks we stay at. Cheers, Ray

  • @dirtroadsailing6418
    @dirtroadsailing6418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like that this model has two fan motors instead of one combined dual shaft motor. I chuckled when you commented that you only need AC about 6 weeks a year, I use mine probably 7-8 months a year.

  • @jerryjerry8673
    @jerryjerry8673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another benefit to the mini split that some don't understand is that its a heat pump. So it can be used year round. Helps with dehumidifying the air which is important in an RV. Defiantly not an easy install. I wonder about they handle the vibration also.

    • @yankeesusa1
      @yankeesusa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mini split is not made for rv since there is a lot of movements in rv. I believe they have some rv units that have a heat pump in them and in Europe they are the norm.

    • @BillPatten-zh6lx
      @BillPatten-zh6lx ปีที่แล้ว

      Has anyone here tried one yet? I helped design ground source split systems for marine use (using a transfer coil between sea water and refrigerant side). These are very efficient, BUT a big outside temp difference makes them less less so. Also, holes for the pipes or an adapter in a widow needs to be used. In my trailer, it might work very well in the bedroom. I don't know if the cost and power requirements would make one practical..?

  • @landstormer4884
    @landstormer4884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review info. On a hot day 95-100 degrees the Coleman Mach 13.5K AC can get the temp inside my 5ver 18-20 degrees cooler than the outside temp. Can’t complain but just wish it would do just a little better. overall the Furrion looks pretty good. Time will tell.

  • @jasonb9913
    @jasonb9913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the two motors makes sense here. The condenser fan only needs to run at a constant speed and the blower fan can run at the requested speed (hi/low, or in fact any variable speed if controls allowed for it). The condenser fan can be cycled independent of the blower as well. Likely more efficient overall
    I did notice that the LRA listed when you were showing the guts was 61 amps. The Mach 3 13.5k is only 50 amps for locked rotor per documentation. That might be why your inverter won't start it.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, that makes sense, as my inverter peak watts for the surge is 6000, and that is likely a generous spec rated in perfect lab conditions. Cheers, Ray

  • @MattLesak
    @MattLesak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Ray!

  • @WillBelden
    @WillBelden 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, Ray. At 11:00, where IS that? I love that area from the view. Looks like great boondocking like Q or American Girl Mine.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not far from American Girl Mine, a little further up off Ogilby Road th-cam.com/video/ue-GbDnnRdE/w-d-xo.html

  • @yankeesusa1
    @yankeesusa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this unit "bump" when the compressor kicks on? The soft start is not just for boondocking. It helps the AC run compressor better and it may even make the unit quieter.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No bump, seems to start in stages lasting about 2 seconds. I think the fan starts first then the compressor. runs quieter than the old Coleman Mach. You can hear an inside demo in the first video www.loveyourrv.com/furrion-chill-14-5k-btu-ac-installation-replacing-old-coleman-mach-3/ Cheers, Ray

  • @Scrambler85
    @Scrambler85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review 👍

  • @johnblanton2326
    @johnblanton2326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the newer rv technologies are using 12 volt refrigerators and air conditioners, but I imagine these are still very expensive and not yet mainstream?

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The 12VDC compressor RV fridge has become very mainstream, and a high percentage of the newest RVs now have them as OEM equipment. Cheaper for them to install than a traditional gas/electric absorption type fridge. I hear they work cool well and have less frost build-up issues. Safer for traveling as the LP Gas can be left off if you are one of those RVers that likes to have the fridge running when traveling and don't have the off-grid power system to run the traditional absorption fridge on electricity which draws around 390 watts. The new 12VDC fridges draw less than half that. Drawbacks are the extra power draw off-grid since there is no option to use LP gas to run them. Some people are surprised when they first camp off the grid with then and wonder why their batteries are running down faster. :) The running compressor and fans can annoy some people in a quiet RV, but I imagine you get used to it.
      The AC is different since the power wattage required is much higher than a fridge. So they aren't used much at all. Heavy gauge copper wiring would need to be used for the high DC amperage required from the RV battery bank to the AC on the roof, so a long run of expensive cables. Then a high-power AC to DC charger would be needed to feed to the battery bank so it will stay charged. Starts to get very expensive, so most are still a niche product for small campers like vans, as far as I know. Cheers, Ray

  • @donm1025
    @donm1025 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi..Ray...so we have a new fifth wheel with this AC unit and here is the problem we are having. Spoke to Furrion and they say the measurement of air temperature is inside the Furrion unit??? I thought all measurement was actually at the thermostat. So the set temperatures are nowhere near the temperature in the rig. We also could not get the "auto" setting for AC to work properly and the Furrion rep siad to try running on "LO" constantly. Hate this because it's a constant noise as we are currently in Florida and the AC is needed a lot. Have you ever heard of measuring the temperature at the unit in the roof versus the thermostat? ps...it's Don the Bluetti guy...seems I can find problems with everything! Will keep you posted and wonder if anyone else is having problems. The previous RV had the Coleman Mach 3 and the standard thermostat and it worked fine.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds pretty weird. What model is it? Maybe you can find the install/owners manual online and see if what they say is the truth. Maybe the factory goofed the installation or something. The Furrion model I got is the conversion model so uses the same control box and thermostat as my previous Coleman Mach 3. I set the same wall thermostat (which I actually have swapped out for a Honeywell Digital) and the AC cools until it reaches the set temp at that thermostat. I can either have fan run all the time high or low or have in auto mode and fan turns off and on when cooling is happening.

  • @commanderfootball
    @commanderfootball ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you use the coleman mach thermostat?

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I had previously replaced the OEM Coleman with a Honeywell that can do auto cooling and heating switch over so using that one - www.loveyourrv.com/rv-digital-thermostat-upgrade-mod-explained/

  • @a3a21971
    @a3a21971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the cost for this new unit? And where did you pick it up?

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends on the model 14.5K or 15.5K and is there are included accessories package options. The kit I installed is what they call the replacement conversion kit goes for around $899 You can see the install video here - www.loveyourrv.com/furrion-chill-14-5k-btu-ac-installation-replacing-old-coleman-mach-3/
      They also have kits that come with the Furrion Air Distribution Box and ones that also includes the Furrion Thermostat. Furrion can be purchased from many sellers or Lippert themselves store.lci1.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Furrion%20Air Furrion Website furrion.com/collections/air-conditioning#products Amazon amzn.to/3DxKkP6 and other RV parts outlets like Camping World for example.
      Lippert sent me this particular kit AC for the install and review. Cheers, Ray

    • @yankeesusa1
      @yankeesusa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They currently have $50 off right now. And if only doing conversion it starts at 899 minus the 50 coupon.

  • @jacktyler7599
    @jacktyler7599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ray's equipment reviews are always diligently and thoroughly developed...but let's acknowledge an A/C brand review based on performance in British Columbia and 80's temps is not a generally applied performance benchmark. Last week our Dominic unit had to cope with 100+F temps day after day, which is unfortunately not uncommon at times.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True enough, but there are other variables besides ambient temps. Where we summer on the spit, there are no trees for shade and the bulk of the 85-90 degree afternoon sun was hitting our large windows on the rear and passenger side of the RV. My shades help, though but still heats up a lot like a greenhouse due to the poorly insulated trailer walls. So likely comparable to better-insulated RV with some shade at over 100+F. Nothing like Florida though, hard to have that sort of crazy humidity on the west coast. :)

  • @robh063
    @robh063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know who actually makes this AC unit? Furrion markets and sells it under their name but who makes it?

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No sure, the compressor is made by Rechi. www.rechi.com/eng/Product/product Looks like Furrion has a US headquarters and then one on Hong Kong which has 40,000 sq/ft R&D plant. Likely they develop the product and then sub out manufacturing to various plants is my guess. Furrion is now owned by Lippert who acquired it last year. Lippert is a huge US company with many brands www.lci1.com/brands Cheers, Ray

    • @robh063
      @robh063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoveYourRV Thanks Ray. Furrion/Lippert has their fingers in a lot of pies. It's almost impossible to figure out who actually makes what anymore.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's for sure! My Ram truck was made in Mexico by a company out of Italy Fiat that bought it from German company Daimler-Benz and now Dutch Stellantis . haha Stellantis owns 16 brands of Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Fiat Professional, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Mopar, Opel, Peugeot, Ram and Vauxhall.

    • @robh063
      @robh063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoveYourRV I remember being 7 years old and being picked up from school in my uncles brand new 1968 Fiat Spider. I believe that was the first model year sold in the U.S. I thought I was really cool LOL I also remember my uncle being at my house and I was playing in the car and somehow I took it out of gear and watched helplessly as it it rolled into the garage door because I was too little to reach the brake pedal. The joys and pitfalls of being a youngster!

  • @bboyda4399
    @bboyda4399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Renogy pcl 3000 would easily start it, if you don't mind the poor support, and costs about the same. There are probably others that would work, but the last I checked the price was about the same as CT's

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, looks like the PCL 3000 has a surge capacity of 9000W versus the Motomaster 6000W. The AC has an amp rating of 61 for locked rotor start-up amperage, so 110VAC x 61A = 6710W. The Renogy is almost double the cost, though. I paid $511 CAD for the Motomaster on sale works out to about $380 USD The comparable priced Renogy 3000W model is also 6000W surge. It's mainly got to do with the inverter type. The more expensive low-frequency ones have a large transformer in them so have that extra surge capacity versus that cheaper low-frequency variety. I didn't buy the inverter for running the AC though, mainly for load testing lithium batteries I review and running some appliances off-grid. So the price was right and I got a 3-year warranty at a brick-and-mortar store. :) Cheers, Ray

    • @bboyda4399
      @bboyda4399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoveYourRV I see that they have significantly increased in price since I bought one. I also have a CT 3000, but I am using the Renogy, I like the pass through ability, ups functionality and the ability to control charge current, from 0 to 75 amps. The charger isn't very efficient, about 80% in my testing but I have used the inverter as a battery charger while running pass through with my other inverter off of the solar system.

    • @bboyda4399
      @bboyda4399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoveYourRV it has a few issues, it would be great if someone could review it, maybe renogy could update their software. The charger only works under specific conditions, it doesn't boost incoming source voltage but it does have a built-in transfer switch. When supplying the load it's output voltage is programmable. It has a lot of potential but needs a thorough review. I just wish that Renogy was easier to deal with.

  • @DennisWintjes2
    @DennisWintjes2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Ray! Like 394

  • @billchesney8949
    @billchesney8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you need a soft start

  • @oldcarnocar
    @oldcarnocar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'd run a bead of silicone and seal up the evap foam cover....

  • @RavenRose88
    @RavenRose88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hmmmm....upon looking at the furrion i see a cleanable air filter.....so THAT's where to find the filter.....

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it was on the roof disassembly part of the video that would have been the condenser and evaporator finned coils. My filter is in the inside roof panel from the old Coleman Mach, a flap opens up to get at the filter.

  • @migmigjohnson6083
    @migmigjohnson6083 ปีที่แล้ว

    You wouldn't run a 1700 W A/C with a 3000 W inverter? Something is definitely wrong there, even with the spike.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  ปีที่แล้ว

      The locked rotor amp rating on this particular AC is 61 amps which at 120 VAC is 7320 watts. 61 amps is the initial inrush of current needed to kick on the compressor from a stationary position. This inverter is rated for max continuous 26 amps and 6000W surge. So I can see why it's high current shutdown may be triggered. I imagine is depends on an inverters protection circuits design. Also this 3000W inverter is a cheaper high frequency type which don't have as much extra reserve surge power for starting things as the more expensive low frequency inverters that use a large transformer in them. One of the drawbacks that saves money when building.
      btw, the inverter runs my 1850W microwave with out issue, even with computers and the TV drawing power at the same time. Its just the initial inrush to kick over the AC compressor seems to be too much for it. I'll be wiring a soft starting device into the AC soon and will retest. Cheers, Ray

  • @st6795
    @st6795 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Luck getting getting a capacitor for that Chinese thing.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Replacement Start Capacitor for Furrion 14,500 Btu RV Air Conditioners - www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Furrion/FR45FR.html

  • @hensonjonathan
    @hensonjonathan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    76?! Just couldn’t do it! 😂

  • @raymondlanier1112
    @raymondlanier1112 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    85 lol why do you need ac

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because its too hot to be comfortable for us inside, we prefer our home to be in the 70s. If I can't move to that temp I can at least cool it with AC

  • @joeboxter3635
    @joeboxter3635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worst thing anyone can do is buy an RV ac. It's bad for your pocket book. It's bad for the RV industry. It's bad for the environment.
    They are the gas guzzlers of RV world and as long as people blindly buy them instead of residential split air which are cheaper to purchase and operate, are better for environment, and the only way to force RV industry to improve.
    Ray you are way too smart to do this Furrion option and not split air. So I hope Furrion gave you unit, at least.

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could give me a free residential mini split, and I wouldn't want it for my trailer. Too many cons for me personally, since 10 months of the year or more, it would sit unused, taking up space. I see them as beneficial for hot-weather boondockers or people who have to spend most of their camping time in the heat. Still not ideal, though. They need better product design options than trying to DIY hack in a unit meant for residential use where the outdoor unit can be placed out of eyesight. I guess it's not that easy, though, or some companies would be offering them. Maybe they are, and I'm not aware, though, since AC isn't a big thing for us. Electricity is included in the campsite fee in the RV parks we stay at. Cheers, Ray

    • @herb7877
      @herb7877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After doing a little research about 2 years ago, I’d have to agree with Ray’s synopsis about a mini split for an rv. The added weight and loss of cabinet removal for the head would far out weigh any benefits. I’d also have half of it hanging on my rear bumper. Living in the PNW we rarely use a/c except a few trips . Having 3 Maxx Airs cools things down pretty well for us in most cases..

    • @MattLesak
      @MattLesak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d love a mini split but to echo others, it would be a major pain in my rig.

    • @KSparks80
      @KSparks80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you even bother checking the prices? They're not cheaper than an RV rooftop AC.

  • @st6795
    @st6795 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or get your soft start for free!

  • @genegodwin769
    @genegodwin769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Foam covers not for me !!!!!!!

  • @johnw.7584
    @johnw.7584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some work good others are junk tryed 3 different types still junky they don’t like rough roads at all

    • @LoveYourRV
      @LoveYourRV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you talking about the Furrion RV AC units or the mini splits?

  • @henryroman5997
    @henryroman5997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 motors , so double the chance of a burnt out motor , great.