Did I Void My Warranty? Data Showing Furrion AC Temp Sensor Relocation Before & After
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
- If you have a Furrion Chill rooftop air conditioner on your RV with the temperature sensor located in the return plenum and your RV feels uncomfortable or humid, then this video is for you. I was reluctant to modify the AC in a way that would void my factory warranty, so I came up with the idea to run an experiment to document and record temperature and humidity across the different settings ranging from fan ON and fan AUTO along with relocating the temp sensor from the return plenum to the wall thermostat. While the experiment I conducted wasn't perfect, the end results seem to confirm relocating the temperature sensor to the wall or thermostat, helps facilitate more consistent temperatures and humidity, making life in your RV more comfortable overall.
00:00 Intro
01:22 The Problem
02:55 Furrion's Recommendation
04:07 Humidity
05:42 Experiment
07:09 Parameters
08:29 Goal
09:47 Phase 1: Fan ON
14:29 Phase 2: Fan AUTO
19:29 Disclaimer
19:55 Check Before Modification
26:05 Temp Sensor Relocation
28:25 Phase 3: Temp Sensor Relocated
35:26 Data Summary
43:54 Conclusion
44:39 Outside Weather
46:18 Furrion Design Inferior?
49:18 Help Me with Feedback
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Thank you for sharing your experiment. I own a residential & light commercial HVAC company. I also own an rv similar to yours with the same issue. The manufacturer had to design and size the a/c units to operate in a wide range of environments. They are all almost certainly oversized for most design conditions. In addition, running on fan only once the compressor shuts off causes the fan to blow across a wet evaporator coil and reintroduces the moisture back into the rv causing the humidity to rise again. You couple that with a short cycle on the compressor and the results are high humidity and inconsistent temperature control. Furrion needs to utilize the existing temp sensor for the furnace and they need to install variable speed compressors and variable speed blowers.
Great points. I'm with you 100%. I believe Furrion is close to releasing a variable speed/inverter style unit for general public/aftermarket, which will be interesting to see how they did the temp sensor on that one.
Adventure Rocks, what a great detailed video. I sent you an email and pictures with some questions about moving the AC sensor in my TT. Thanks in advance.
Thank you, appreciate the feedback!
A very helpful video. I am literally at that point of having to relocate my room sensor, or I hear there is an aftermarket one with a 10' line but you have to run it from the A/C to the thermostat. I have your situation where we have moved from an EcoThermDometic to a Furrion A/C and have two extra wires that could be used but involves snipping the sensor. Very informative. (Sidebar: Furrion also claims that installing a SoftStart will void your warranty as well.)
@@starhopper457 interesting, thanks for sharing. So far the mod has been completely worth it, running like a champ now!
@@AdventureRocks Followup, Sir, if I may... do you have a link or name of the device used to measure Temp and Humidity? LOL, you need a section on your AZ page for your favorite tools that you use in your vids!
@@starhopper457 no problem! Yes here is the temp and humidity sensor:
amzn.to/3XTmJma
I use them in fridges, underbelly, etc... Really anywhere. They seem pretty accurate and the Bluetooth and WiFi connectivity is versatile.
I have 2 Furrions on my 5th wheel - I simply poked the temp sensor down through the mesh air filter so it's in the room and not up in the unit. That made a big difference for me.
Great tip. Thank you for sharing.
Well I did the same thing with no improvement.
@@samcunningham6009if everything else is working properly on yours as far as the temperature of supply air being 20+ degrees different, I'd recommend trying the full relocation of temp sensor next.
I wonder if the thermostat gave you higher readings because it is mounted on an exterior wall which would be slightly warmer than say an interior wall... Just a thought. Thank you for sharing your experience with us, great video.
Thank you. Great point. I could definitely see the exterior wall generating heat especially if sun was hitting it on the outside too. It turned out that the thermostat itself was generating a little bit of heat compared to the surrounding wall and then I guess with me extending the wire the resistance changed slightly causing it to read about 3 or so degrees higher in the end...I don't mind it though as that means setting it to 72 makes it more like 69ish. It has been working like a champ since though...much more dry on the humidity side by having compressor run longer and then no fan when it's off.
Great Video I have 2021 Grand Design 2800BH with two Furrion AC and was have the same problem with the on and off about every 2 min. Call Furrion and they were not much help. Then i call Grand Design and they shipped out two wall sensor thermostat and ac control module for free. Seem to work a lot better on the wall. Will have try the Auto fan mode. Thanks for the video
Thank you. Great feedback. I heard GD was shipping out relocation parts under warranty, but when I spoke with them in last month I gather they may have changed more recently? In speaking with the CS rep it sounded like too many good-intentioned owners got the relocation parts from GD direct and it didn't solve the problem as there was another problem with their AC, thus I gather they will now send relocation parts out if a tech diagnoses the sensor as the issue. Who knows though...maybe it's on a case by case basis.
Good video and timely as we just picked up a new travel trailer with 2 Furrion Chill ACs. Im hoping that Jayco’s BMPro system controls the ACs with their separate wall mount temp sensors.
Thank you. I believe that is the case with BMPRO temp sensor and node overriding in your case. You'll have to report back once you can confirm.
Interesting for sure. However if I replace again it will be with one wired for a wall thermo and one that shuts of if a cooling cycle is complete. I drank the coolaid and purchased a Houghton from Rec Pro. Not happy. They claim it is super quiet. Compared to jack hammer. The worst part is that it runs all the time. We also have a Dometic and it is a bit louder but it shuts off when not needed. Fortunately we use the Hiughton only then it gets in the high 80’s to supplement. No more latest and greatest for me. Coleman or Dometic only.
I hear you. Great points.
Have 2 Furrions in my Brinkley z3100 and I have been wanting to do the sensor relocation modification. Thanks for posting this video! I was going to purchase a third party sensor relocation kit but now want to check to see if I have extra wiring. So to confirm.. You cut the sensor from the existing wiring, clamped the ends of that wiring and then spliced it into the same colored wiring behind the thermostat right?
Thank you. Yes, you're exactly right. It's been running like a champ since relocating.
When relocating the room sensor to the wall thermostat did you disconnect the existing sensor in the plenum and use that to go in the thermostat?
Yes, indeed. I just spliced into existing sensor and used existing surplus thermostat wires to extend. There's a third party that also makes a kit complete with sensor and wire, but then you have to run your wire through a chase to the wall. I did change the resistance in the wire by extending it, which has caused thermostat to read about 2-3 degrees warmer than reality.
@@AdventureRocksExtremely helpful thank you. I did buy two of the relocation kits you mention from Castle Winch LLC which are plug and play compatible with the Furrion Chill units. However I am not technically inclined to even attempt that job myself. I live in Orlando and will need to find someone to undertake that task. Any suggestions please let me know. And thank you again. GREAT video!
@@DavidHage-yw4le I hear you. If by chance you have surplus wires running between your AC and existing wall thermostat, it'll make the job a lot easier, but I think any RV tech can do it for you, especially if you show them the video in advance. For all I know many of the RV techs may already know about this issue and have completed it for others. My AC though is running like a champ after performing the modification even after testing it and more extreme temperatures.
Our furrion AC started tripping the circuit breaker and it will turn on then off. Do you think this is the issue with the humidity?
Usually if a breaker is tripping repeatedly it indicates overdrawn amperage, meaning the AC is pulling too much current. Typically an AC is on its own breaker, usually 20A or higher. There could be an issue in the 120V power feeding AC, or some component in AC is failing causing it to pull more amps than expected. Hard to say...a lot of factors, and more diagnosis needed by a tech perhaps, but I don't think my solution in this video will solve your problem unfortunately. I'm sorry about that and hope you all can figure it out.