It’s a great reciprocative relationship. He supplies me with reels for my show and he gets free repairs. Everyone wins, including his customers. He has become an important asset to Young Martin’s Reels. I haven’t counted but I’d venture to say he has supplied at least a third of the reels I’ve presented on the channel. I have at least another 30 reels of his waiting to be done.
I thought it was going to be an easy clean and service when I started with it. That screw presented me with quite the challenge. I’m just glad I had the part he needed.
Mario, that screw was a real pain. What’s really bad is I had completely disassembled it and put it back together without realizing it was a direct drive reel. I knew it looked different but I didn’t take the time to study why.
I have one of those reels handed down to me. When you started I was wondering how long it was going take before you realized it was a direct drive. I had the benefit of a grandfather who showed me how it worked.
That’s half the fun of this project, figuring out how each reel was made and how it works. I will say this one took me a while. Did your grandfather like the way the drag system worked on that reel?
I have a trick for when I don't feel like tearing down a complicated bridge like the 5000D, I have a large wide mouth candle jar that I got from the dollar store and its half full of paint thinner and the whole plate will fit in easily along with other parts, and I use a camel hair water color brush to gently brush away any clumps while it in the jar, but that only works when the thinner is still clear, you have to raise it out if its too dirty, but you can use it over and over again until you're ready to change it out.
I have a very large glass jar filled with mineral spirits that sits inside my ultrasonic parts cleaner. It does a wonderful job of getting the parts clean. Thanks for the input.
Had me almost yelling at the screen a few times there... Even so, I learned a couple things right along with you, and I appreciate it. There's got to be a way of re-securing a loose post but I'll bet some special tools are required to do it properly. And probably access to the base of the post on both sides... I wonder if ultra-thin CA glue could have worked its way between the post and the plate, dried, and provided enough resistance to remove that screw. I think my last-ditch idea before grinding the head off the screw would have been to try slotting the back side of the post so a flat-head screwdriver could be used to hold the post stationary. Anyhow, good job.
I had a 70s abu 5000c black. The first time I disassembled it I thought the pinion gear wasn´t original. It looked weird, like it was a modified piece from another reel, the pinion slot where the spool attaches looked like poorly hand made, and also looked weak (not enough metal for such an important piece). For my surprise, the pinion was original and looks exactly like yours. I don´t understand why they made like that when the rest of the mechanism is so beefy and high quality. After the 80s they came with a beefier pinion but also with more plastic in the mechanism.
Here is a schematic for the 5000C: www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Abu%20Garcia/Round%20Baitcast/5000/Ambassadeur%205000C%20(01-01%20Black).pdf And if I was looking to order drag washers, I would contact www.smoothdrag.com/wp/
If you check the schematics for the 5000D you will find drag washers part numbers 3902 and 3903. There are also a drag spacer and a drag shim listed. It has a drag system but it isn’t like most other drags. As long as you are cranking forward on the handle, you have no drag. If you slightly back pedal it the drag takes over. I don’t think I have enough presence of mind to fish it like it is designed to be fished.
Good job, the only thing I would of tried different is held screw that wouldn't come out of post on an anvil or vice and used small ball peining hammer on back side where it rivets onto plate and tried to make it grip tight again on brake plate, then screw may of come out, I have never know a stuck screw here and soaking in petrol would of gone in post hole and worked in threads from inside, also this is not a criticism just that I am OCD about cleaning having ADHD & Autism i was sweating watching how much dirt left on cage and around cage bars and foot as well as insife brake drum it was an interesting video but hard to watch for me at times due to my issues🤣, pawl and worm gear assembly always comes out it takes seconds to remove and is brushed through tracks and end plastic bearings cleaned up thoroughly, the caps going on sounded gritty so possible sand on threads, I always clean and brush those threads thoroughly and then lightly greased you'll hear the difference on screwing them back on. Also the numbered ring on plate still had old grease and yellowed as did chrome collar under drag knob, I am just a stickler for stripping cleaning and polishing every component before re-assembly, even my most tatty one scuffed wise doesn't have a spec of dust that shouldn't be there but as I said that's how I am with my neurodiverse brain 😂 I even clean after every session without fail it's just how I am as a person. Mine are Abu Ambassadeur 6000's but same internals essentially other than shaft , drag and main gear are concerned. Anyway nice reel still and saved due to your spare parts box 👍
As it is, it takes me about 4 hours to create each video. I think that if I tried to clean to that level of perfection, I’d never get any videos completed. However, I’m happy to know there are people out there that have to time and inclination to clean reels to that level. Keep up the fantastic work and enjoy your reels.
@youngmartinsreels5314 I get that the videos are long and many thanks for doing so, it will help so many people. I'm now 55 and my Dad showed me how to service reels from a very early age maybe around 10 to 12 years old, he was from repair it not replace it generation and he showed me so much. I unfortunately am set in my ways and have a set routine when servicing which would annoy anyone watching that's why I don't do videos 🤣 I have watched many of your videos and the one that really helped was the dam quick champion 700 you did I have the 800 bit essentially the same and I thought I would take jack and spring out like you did, what a nightmare to get spring and pin back in 😱 Anyway like I said thanks for you videos and taking the time to create one, keep up the good work 👍
That worm gear and paul should be removed and cleaned just like the rest of the things that you failed to remove and clean and it would not hurt to do it with an ultra cleaner. Not very expensive from Amazon. And I would suggest that you should change the worm Gear and Paul out if there is Any slop between them. and you should definatly change out the anti reverse for sure. Those 2 items will make the reel like new...
I have only one thing to say - your friend Ken is incredibly fortunate to have You!!! Great job Rick - Chris
It’s a great reciprocative relationship. He supplies me with reels for my show and he gets free repairs. Everyone wins, including his customers. He has become an important asset to Young Martin’s Reels. I haven’t counted but I’d venture to say he has supplied at least a third of the reels I’ve presented on the channel. I have at least another 30 reels of his waiting to be done.
Wow - that was one challenging reel. Nice job!
Tad
I thought it was going to be an easy clean and service when I started with it. That screw presented me with quite the challenge. I’m just glad I had the part he needed.
WOW rick! You had your hands full on this Abu. Good job saving it 👍👍👍👍
Mario, that screw was a real pain. What’s really bad is I had completely disassembled it and put it back together without realizing it was a direct drive reel. I knew it looked different but I didn’t take the time to study why.
@@youngmartinsreels5314 what matters is that it’s done and off your hands.
@@youngmartinsreels5314 but your rite about the drag handle. Not a fan of that particular reel.
I have one of those reels handed down to me. When you started I was wondering how long it was going take before you realized it was a direct drive. I had the benefit of a grandfather who showed me how it worked.
That’s half the fun of this project, figuring out how each reel was made and how it works. I will say this one took me a while. Did your grandfather like the way the drag system worked on that reel?
very well done my friend, I rebuild reels myself and you sir did awesome. and we'll informed
Thanks, it was a bit frustrating but satisfying once I got it finished.
I agree with you I don’t like the drag system, a 5000D was given to me and thanks to you I understand how the reel operates
Thank You
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for sharing.
This is just what I needed; thanks!
I glad I was able to assist you.
I have a trick for when I don't feel like tearing down a complicated bridge like the 5000D, I have a large wide mouth candle jar that I got from the dollar store and its half full of paint thinner and the whole plate will fit in easily along with other parts, and I use a camel hair water color brush to gently brush away any clumps while it in the jar, but that only works when the thinner is still clear, you have to raise it out if its too dirty, but you can use it over and over again until you're ready to change it out.
I have a very large glass jar filled with mineral spirits that sits inside my ultrasonic parts cleaner. It does a wonderful job of getting the parts clean. Thanks for the input.
Had me almost yelling at the screen a few times there... Even so, I learned a couple things right along with you, and I appreciate it.
There's got to be a way of re-securing a loose post but I'll bet some special tools are required to do it properly. And probably access to the base of the post on both sides...
I wonder if ultra-thin CA glue could have worked its way between the post and the plate, dried, and provided enough resistance to remove that screw.
I think my last-ditch idea before grinding the head off the screw would have been to try slotting the back side of the post so a flat-head screwdriver could be used to hold the post stationary.
Anyhow, good job.
Thanks for the info. Is it possible to change out the drag stack to convert it to a conventional drag system?
I don’t think so.
I had a 70s abu 5000c black. The first time I disassembled it I thought the pinion gear wasn´t original. It looked weird, like it was a modified piece from another reel, the pinion slot where the spool attaches looked like poorly hand made, and also looked weak (not enough metal for such an important piece).
For my surprise, the pinion was original and looks exactly like yours. I don´t understand why they made like that when the rest of the mechanism is so beefy and high quality.
After the 80s they came with a beefier pinion but also with more plastic in the mechanism.
I have this reel. Where can I get a schematic and order parts? I need a drag washer. Great video. Thanks
Here is a schematic for the 5000C:
www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Abu%20Garcia/Round%20Baitcast/5000/Ambassadeur%205000C%20(01-01%20Black).pdf
And if I was looking to order drag washers, I would contact
www.smoothdrag.com/wp/
I might be mistaken, but I thought the 5000 D had no drag. Designed for heavy duty fishing.
If you check the schematics for the 5000D you will find drag washers part numbers 3902 and 3903. There are also a drag spacer and a drag shim listed. It has a drag system but it isn’t like most other drags. As long as you are cranking forward on the handle, you have no drag. If you slightly back pedal it the drag takes over. I don’t think I have enough presence of mind to fish it like it is designed to be fished.
Good job, the only thing I would of tried different is held screw that wouldn't come out of post on an anvil or vice and used small ball peining hammer on back side where it rivets onto plate and tried to make it grip tight again on brake plate, then screw may of come out, I have never know a stuck screw here and soaking in petrol would of gone in post hole and worked in threads from inside, also this is not a criticism just that I am OCD about cleaning having ADHD & Autism i was sweating watching how much dirt left on cage and around cage bars and foot as well as insife brake drum it was an interesting video but hard to watch for me at times due to my issues🤣, pawl and worm gear assembly always comes out it takes seconds to remove and is brushed through tracks and end plastic bearings cleaned up thoroughly, the caps going on sounded gritty so possible sand on threads, I always clean and brush those threads thoroughly and then lightly greased you'll hear the difference on screwing them back on.
Also the numbered ring on plate still had old grease and yellowed as did chrome collar under drag knob, I am just a stickler for stripping cleaning and polishing every component before re-assembly, even my most tatty one scuffed wise doesn't have a spec of dust that shouldn't be there but as I said that's how I am with my neurodiverse brain 😂
I even clean after every session without fail it's just how I am as a person.
Mine are Abu Ambassadeur 6000's but same internals essentially other than shaft , drag and main gear are concerned.
Anyway nice reel still and saved due to your spare parts box 👍
As it is, it takes me about 4 hours to create each video. I think that if I tried to clean to that level of perfection, I’d never get any videos completed. However, I’m happy to know there are people out there that have to time and inclination to clean reels to that level. Keep up the fantastic work and enjoy your reels.
@youngmartinsreels5314
I get that the videos are long and many thanks for doing so, it will help so many people.
I'm now 55 and my Dad showed me how to service reels from a very early age maybe around 10 to 12 years old, he was from repair it not replace it generation and he showed me so much.
I unfortunately am set in my ways and have a set routine when servicing which would annoy anyone watching that's why I don't do videos 🤣
I have watched many of your videos and the one that really helped was the dam quick champion 700 you did I have the 800 bit essentially the same and I thought I would take jack and spring out like you did, what a nightmare to get spring and pin back in 😱
Anyway like I said thanks for you videos and taking the time to create one, keep up the good work 👍
That worm gear and paul should be removed and cleaned just like the rest of the things that you failed to remove and clean and it would not hurt to do it with an ultra cleaner. Not very expensive from Amazon. And I would suggest that you should change the worm Gear and Paul out if there is Any slop between them. and you should definatly change out the anti reverse for sure. Those 2 items will make the reel like new...
"D" is for Direct Drive, and thats why its my least favorite.