How do Toyota Safety Sense Work Part 3 Lane keep assist and Auto High beams
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- A Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician explains how do Toyota Safety Sensor work behind the scenes. How it ACTUALLY works.
In this brand new series on my channel I go over the often misunderstood and misused Toyota Safety Sense system.
I broke this series in multi parts following various components that this system uses. Starting with the Radar sensor then followed by the Front recognition camera and how the two work together to get you Radar cruise control, Pre collision, Lane keep assist, Lane tracing assist and more.
Believe it or not this system dates back Its origins to the 2004 Toyota Sienna of all Toyota models.
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Fascinating...no matter how sophisticated the system, it cannot think outside its programing. Only a human can handle unanticipated situations--like the chaos of a construction zone.
I love LTA together with Full Speed Radar Cruise Control on a highway! Especially on long trips at the summer time. Some weekends I was driving close to 1000 killometers on my 19 Corolla Hatch XSE and I wasn't tired too much, I just was driving, relaxing and enjoying the view! Also I noticed it's a better gas milage when you use the full speed radar cruise control. By the way LTA and full speed cruise cotrol works perfectly even at night!
I must say that the Lane Departure warning helped me to improve my driving. When I first got my Prius with Toyota Safety Sense, the lane departure would beep left and right. After driving the vehicle for months, I was able to hone my lane-centering skills, and now the system rarely beeps.
This series is so much better than the short tutorial my salesperson gave me
Another excellent job, so much more informative then the owner’s manual.
Agreed!
This video is helpful especially in its precautionary advice about avoiding lane trace when the compact spare is in use, and when a crosswind severely affects steering.
Just got a 18 tundra and you have helped me understand so much. Thank you so much for that. Went from 31 year old truck to that and we have had a learning curve
Very informative and helpful. I believe Toyota dealerships should be showing this series when they sell you the car. Thank you for helping me with my automatic highlights problem. You explained things in plan English and did not make me feel stupid. Thanks again, Merry Christmas, GOD bless from Youngstown, Ohio.
Thx so much! Helped us understand our new Avalon. You are a great educater!
It's too bad the 2019-21 Avalon doesn't have the LKA or the latest TSS 2.5+ safety package like the 2021 Camry does. I want the Avalon but will go with the Camry for the updated safety features.
Another great video. Thoroughly loved this series. Thank you for doing this one for us. In this video I liked that you talked about situations when you may want to turn the lane departure/ lane keep system off. Your right about lane keep assist. It is very sensitive in my Camry. It keeps me on my toes. The only time I don't like it is when going over a small bridge near my home. The system reads the reflector on he side of the bridge. It thinks I'm over the line and beeps at me everytime I cross it. I love the auto high beams as I live in a rural area. I love that it turns down the lights when a car coming the other way is approaching.
I am waiting on delivery of my new Rav4 hybrid and stumbled across your channel looking up reviews. Binged watched a large chunk of your videos, very informative. Especially since this is my first toyota.
All points well taken. Especially the construction one. Thank you sir
It took me 5 months to get use to all that in my 2020 Camry XLE with sonar parking assist .. There are three settings on each feature ... I drove a 2020 Lexus ES-350 and it was about the same . The Camry is more driver friendly . Both great cars .
This series is the most informative series I’ve ever seen. Where it fails is I don’t know when it is talking about my specific model or level within a model. It would perfect if at the start I could enter my car info and it would tailor the info to my car. But I know that would be very expensive to do. However, it is leagues beyond every other company I have found. I love my 2023 escape hybrid, but I didn’t even get an owner’s manual. I don’t even know what systems I have in my escape. I have an escape because ford had one available when Toyotas were on a year waiting list.
I drive a Lexus with all the gadgetry to be had and I really enjoy your videos, they are very informative and interesting, keep them coming
Only the latest Lexus has all these features. Many slightly older models disappoint with their lack of safety features compared with Mercedes Benz or even Genesis.
Very good. It would be nice if you could show the buttons you are speaking about. Thanks. 🚘
Courtesy of a young lady who did not realise you have to look behind you when backing up I got to try a fancy new Corolla while my Aqua got fixed.
It was pretty cool that I started watching your videos about a month ago so I already knew all about it, so thank you for that.
My verdict is that it is absolutely fantastic. I love the way it slows down for cars in front and keeps a constant distance. I don't love so much the lane assist. Most of the time it worked well but when it didn't if I had not been paying attention it would have looked like my Aqua. So I think it is technology that should not be allowed right now because I can see it killing people.
The really cool thing is the fuel consumption. For the entire week I had it the average was 16k per litre which is not far off my Aqua's economy average of 20k per litre. I am putting this down to driving the whole time using cruise control.
It was with regret I returned the corolla today and picked up my Aqua.
This series of 3 was absolutely outstanding. I am new to your channel and you have added so much to my knowledge of my 2018 Camry and I am looking forward to getting my 2021 Camry
LTA reminds me of years ago driving the tractor on the farm. The steering would pull toward any furrows or tire ruts to follow old paths. It feels like a bit of a tug of war when you need to be a few inches to one side or the other of that. On some of the roads of south and west Chicago burbs, LTA favors a bit too far left or right. So the steering wheel keeps nudging me back the direction of the "furrowed" path it favors. At least with LTA, I can turn it off as necessary.
recently drove 800 mile trip in my new 2021 Rav4 hybrid prime. On straightaways with clear road lines and nobody around, the hands on wheels sensor was downright infuriating! Every 15-20 sec., whether or not hands were on wheel, the warning illuminated, then beeped, sometimes was downright HARD to get rid of it, gripping and shaking the wheel. Turning LDA off is not a practical option. The best workaround i found is to quickly toggle Off-On the LDA button on the steering wheel, and you get another 15-20 seconds of harassment-free driving, and if you press fast enough never lose steering assistance. And don't worry--having to repeatedly hit the button keeps one from falling asleep. At the very least it gives you and passengers a break from motion sickness from the wheel jerks.
I find that the auto high beam works very well. I live in Wyoming and do quite a bit of highway driving at night. The camera on my 2021 Tacoma actually sees an oncoming vehicle faster than I can. This is probably due to the fact that the camera is at the top of my windshield and it sees the oncoming lights before they come into my vision. Sometimes the tail lights on the vehicle ahead are dim from dirt or some such and my high beams don’t deactivate as soon as I would like. It’s easy to dim them and the advantages far outweigh the negatives with this system. Especially since I have the LED headlight package I don’t want the auto system to malfunction and blind other drivers.
Perfect thanks for your information
Your explne clear for me because my language not English
I wish the 2016 Prius’s TSS-P LDA could be updated with Lane Tracing.
Love all those meetings!!
Even here in Australia many follow your excellent Videos 😊
I would consider your videos essential viewing for those who own or are buying a new/used Toyota. Thank you.
Great job. Because of getting pulled towards a truck, as you described in the video, I turned the system off. It happened a few times and really scared me.
What really bugs me is that nobody at the dealership believes that the system pulls me towards the truck as you described!
It happens. Until the dealership mechanic or advisor drives a car for a long time and this happens to them they won’t imagine it.
Drive a 2021 Venza. Safety Sense 2.0 still has a way to go before it is great. For example, the lane trace can turn off unexpectedly. Likewise, the adaptive cruise control can lose the vehicle in front at awkward moments. In sum, Safety Sense requires a lot of supervision, and won’t let you relax as much as you might wish, or even expect.
I wonder if version 2.5 as in the 2021 highlander is any better.
I also have a 2021 venza, the hybrid, I've never experienced the problems you're talking about.
I also thought people behind would think I might be drunk going from one side of the lane to the other with the trace on. Fun fact with that lane Trace is when you're on the highway and that solid white line follows the exit to get off the highway my car would try to exit the highway as well.
One day my wife told me about 3 months after we had the car she had the adaptive cruise control on and she said the car will actually stop by itself she didn't have to hit the brake pedal at all, that could hardly believe her. So one day I decided to try it myself, of course always keeping my foot hovering above the brake pedal just in case, and lo and behold it followed the car to save distance and that's that car came to a stop so did ours, shocker I was really surprised and now I have to believe her. Interesting thing is the car will keep track of the one in front and if the one in front starts to move within a certain time frame so does the venza it activates the acceleration by itself and keeps it at a certain Pace with the car in front. but if you sit there too long without holding the brake pedal which of course the car is now holding the car in a stock position there's a light on the dash that says waiting eventually it'll go off and then you have to actually push the gas pedal to get it going and the adaptive cruise control will take over it notices that the car is in motion.
It's been a real kick only this car with all these safety features and warnings, and almost self-driving. The thing I noticed about cruise control and having your hand on the steering wheel you can't just lightly rested on the steering wheel you actually have to put a little bit of pressure or you get the big warning sign on your dash that I don't remember what it says but it lets you know that you don't have your hand on it even though you had slightly have it touching the steering wheel.
Always learning something new from you AMD. Thank you kindly.
Thank you for watching!
Great job and video like always
Brilliant guide. Please could you also explain toyota active cornering assist.
Great video. I find it interesting though, I have a 2017 RAV4 with LDA and steering assist. I don't find it bad at all. The trick is to keep your entire hand on the wheel so it can sense it. I've never felt like it was fighting against me at all. I also love the auto high-beams, though I admit you need to take over manual control on roads with lots of turns. Unfortunately the camera cannot see headlights coming around a corner and pre-dim them like we can. Not yet! But these features make a 3 hour road-trip on the highway feel like an hour long trip. At least for me.
Next week i get my new 2020 yaris. Thanks for your advices .
Comma 3 dose Lane Less now it will steer into the other lane if a truck gets in the way
Wish I was closer I’d come by and say hello and show you it
Love your channel it’s really informative
It is very capable to self drive you would be impressed with the comma3
Thank you for your easy to understand videos.
Hi from Australia.
Great video....God bless from Southern California ✌🙏 2017 corolla SE
This is awesome, informative.
It's a dangerous world out there and your very best tool will always be yourself no matter how safe something is be prepared to duck and run
I love the way you explain things.
excellent advice, thanks!
Great video AMD! Can't wait for the next parts.
This a great information to know as I watched almost all of your Videos so far ,,as I am waiting for my new 2022 Toyota Camry to come in and , this really helps me to understand the special functions of my new Hybrid Camry SE ,, Thank you so very much for all these tips !!
Thanks for the great info on Toyota Brother! OORAH
Great series of videos. Thanks from the UK.
I had a 1985 T-Bird that had automatic high beams. If you came to a blinking light, the high beams would flash in time with the light. I rarely used that feature. lol.
Hi, I've got that 2nd flavor of LKA in my gen 4 GS and it operates exactly as you described. What I find so strange is that the system wants to keep you on the left part of side of the road (when you're on the right hand lane). Which is kinda annoying because of the other passing traffic getting to close for comfort. I put al sensitivity on low so the 'drunken driving swerving' is kept to a minimum.
Thank you sir!
I just bought a 2024 Raw4 hybrid for my wife. We both hate the lane departure punching around. I appreciate it when you warned me but don't push me please, Let me drive.
very informative good job 😁
Good video and interesting as always
Great video on the safety sense system, I am wondering if there is a video on the backup camera. My backup camera works good in the daytime but it is terrible at night. The dealership would not replace it while under warranty. Is a better camera available that will fit the 2017 Toyota Corolla SE?
I like the LTA on highway driving. We own a 21 Sienna and a 22 Prius L Eco and it works well on both. You just have to get used to it nudging you around and know that you still have to maintain control at all times. The only time it's gotten a little hairy for me is when a highway splits in two and you may lose lane markings. In that case, you've got to absolutely take control and "fight" the LTA for a few seconds. Take the Nut's advice... It's not an auto pilot!
Awesome video keep up the good work.
Bought a 2021 sienna last month, my 4th Toyota Hybrid. Love it, economy of a Corolla, space of a van. LTA works only when cruise is active. Is this normal?
Hi! That is normal.
My wife bought a 2020 Camry LE one week ago and LDA has helped a few times. First time on standard she almost drove off in to the ditch or muddy/rocky sholder. She crossed the line but still had 1ft of payment. I moved it high cause most of the road she drives just drop off suddenly after the line. I know a few people who have gotten in bad wrecks or killed cause they over correct after going on the shoulder. We both find the system is gental and easy to overcome if needed. You forget to talk about the away alert system that help with looking like a idiot. My wife is very short so systems like rear view camera, blind spot, RCTA help a lot. Head rest in the way, rear glass up higher and smaller it can be almost impossible for her to see. Be nice if had bird's eye view so she can pull to parking spots easier.
Maybe your wife needs to stop driving before she kills someone? 😳
@@Nightbird. She was just getting use to the car. It it way more sensitive to steering input then her old car. Her defensive driving and unfamiliar area driving bugs me.
Don't forget there are a lot of short people driving and they have hard time seeing over the back head rest and beyond the door pillers.
@@polsdofer960 Glad to know she will be OK. Best of luck to her!
My wife thinks she wants lame trace assist. After watching this video, I’m dubious. This might be the playing card I need to get the 2019 forerunner INSTEAD of the Highlander. This is one time I’m glad the Forerunner doesn’t have the same safety features the Highlander does. Comments from owners of either model are appreciated. Thanks!
Awesomeness!
Thanks
this guy is so cool
Will be there be a software update from LDA to LTA in 2020 Camry XSE
That is a good question. I don’t know if the system is capable on the Camry of LTA. I’ll ask around and see if there’s such posibility
@@TheCarCareNut is be interested in this as well for my 19 Camry.
I’m also interested for my 20 Camry.
My Toyota service manager said No..because this is how they keep people buying the latest models. If they just did software updates sales would seriously fall to catastrophic levels. From a business standpoint that would be suicide.
Hey Care care nur team
I ve been following your for awhile
I like to retrofit lane keep assit for my old Camry 07
Would there be such guidance for making cars safer in the road?
Lane assist swerving reminds of the guy with the lobotomy in the movie Repoman
Well done!!
I’ve got an 18 Corolla, can the system be updated to work with the new LTA?
Unfortunately no updates are available.
I had to keep it turned off or assisted steering off cause the road kills and debris in Mississippi Hwy or road will tear up your cars! Trying to dodge Tire Retread in the middle of your lane and the Lane assist throw you right back on it! Big Repair Bill! ja ja ja
I have camry hyrbid xle 2020 but doesn’t have LKA. Can I upgrade somehow to make it work
Yeah the lane keep system doesn’t work at all in pouring Texas rain lol. I was curious about it and tried, no, it doesn’t react at all lol
God Bless u
QUESTION:
if i change my windsheild (2019 rav4 awd), do i need to recalibreate the cameria after? deciding if toyota should replace my winddheild or if i can find a cheaper thrid party to do it.
It would have to be calibrated. A lot of third party glass companies can do the calibration as well. I would ask them.
New 2022 Corolla Hybrid Sedan with TSS 2.0 (Australia - We drive on left) I have driven 200 miles so far . LTA with Dynamic Cruise keeps VERY CLOSE (6-8 inches) to the right of the lane on a multi-lane highway, and VERY CLOSE (6-8 inches) to center line on a two lane road. (center is on the right because we drive on the left here) Both roads have very clear white lane markings which show up well in the display. QUESTION: Can the distance LTA keeps to the right or left of a lane be set or adjusted by dealer? If so, I will mention to dealer when I take it back for its 2 month check. Note: In the 5 months I waited for this wonderful Corolla I watched almost all your videos (some more than once) so I was WELL PREPARED when car arrived - THANK YOU!!
Hi! Unfortunately such adjustment is not possible. It would be really nice if that was possible as you are not alone. I see it doing that and many others as well
@@TheCarCareNut Thank you for the good info. I'll adjust to it as is - a great system overall.
In your professional opinion, I would like to know your thoughts on the build quality and reliability between the U.S. built Toyota and Lexus versus the made in Japan toyotas and Lexus. Do you find more quality issues over the U.S made vs the Made in Japan? I've read many forum's and I've seen that made in japan Toyota's or the Lexus is of better quality and holds up better than the U.S. made, is this true in your opinion? Thanks Car Care Nut
Hi chad! You bring a very interesting question which I’m dreading making a video about. I agree that Japanese built cars were made better in the 1990s and early to mid 2000s but today they’re all the same. And people go the extra length to get that Japanese build car today and it really makes no difference. I invite everyone when the pandemic is over to go to a close by Toyota factory and take a tour which they offer in most factories so you can see the level of precision and dedication put into making these cars. I personally have been and know folks who work at the Kentucky and Indiana plants and they take pride in what they do to produce the highest quality Toyota’s possible.
I noticed when running the system if the white line on the right dives off for a short turn lane, the car will follow it to the right!
LOL @11:13 that caprice or buick or whatever it is
Can you please complete your videos with TSS 3.0?
What is your opinion on using the adaptive cruise when towing. I really used to dislike the old cruise control but on a trip the adaptive cruise is really a game changer. I haven't towed with my Tacoma yet but not sure how safe it would be when towing. Maybe if the road was open and not many cars it might be ok. I'm thinking not good on a more filled freeway due to needing more time to slow or stop.
It could work but I’d rather you are heavily supervising it as it could be jumpy on the brakes because of the extra load of the tow
Is it bad to keep turning the high berms on and off? I tried it on a sienna and it was constantly going back and forth.
It’s not bad and won’t hurt anything.
Truly not made for city driving and it does what you explain
I call the “more advanced” system the “ping pong ball” effect. I liked mine on the suburban but now apparently I have the most basic in my Landcruiser? Wish some of these features could be added to? They should design features to add.
The hybrid chr doesn’t have a camera - does it?
Love BBB my 2022 sienna xse. Mileage is not 36-37!
I like to see how the LTA will work heading north to Iowa with 40 mph Cross wind and 60 gusts tossing the car all over 😂. That wind actually can trigger stability control light as you are fighting to keep the car straight. Been there. It will be a battle of wills 😂
That's why many old timers won't give up their 80's Lincoln's and Cadillac's..lol.
With the automatic high beam on rav4 2018 when you get blinded by oncoming car the system gets overloaded and disabled for a few seconds. Has this been improved with tss 2.0?
Why is it when I use cruise control in my Toyota Corolla 2018 The transmission gears up or down when I go up and down a hill
Hi! It knows your going up or down a hill and goes in a lower or higher ratio to help
Hi sir
My 2018 Camry SE Showing the error C1AAO, Dealership said need to replace whole camera which is very costly, Plz suggest anything is there any other way.
Thanks
I have new rav4 and it looks like it still tries to center the car behind another car when lanes aren't visible but ACC enabled and it sees a car in front of you, is it so?
On your screen on the gauges you can navigate to a menu that shows you what it’s doing. See if it’s using lane tracing or regular lane keep
Could you make a video for tacoma pcs system? How it works, adjust? I have a 2021 TRD SPORT and don’t see it reacts. Don’t give me any alarm.
Lane keep assist sucks, I will give you an example when you on driving through a curve the beeping will go off and try to softly pull the vehicle back into the lane on a curve. It is also extremely sensitive.
Can you turn it off, when in your in these situations?
You can! All the safety systems in Toyota safety sense can be turned off
The LTA in my 2021 Rav 4 XLE Hybrid keeps my car in the lane but never centered. It always makes the car stick to the right lane. Is that normal in the new LTA system?
Hi! Is it turned on LTA? And when you navigate to the driver assist screen does it show two blue lines?
@@TheCarCareNut yes
This strange behaviour happens when LTA is on when cruise is on. LTA with no cruise works great. Is it because of the sensor in the Toyota emblem? The program does not seem to work right.
Lane departure alert turns off the system on the side of the car where the turn signal is on and for 5 seconds afterwards......
I have a 19 Corolla and have the 17 inch wheels with low profile tires. If I went to a tire with more of a side wall will that miss things up?
Hi! You can’t really go much bigger as the tire will start contacting the car and causing issues. If you wanted go with a smaller wheel size
@@TheCarCareNut thank you
I have a new Toyota Yaris Hybrid, Model 2020. On the website, they talk about "radar" and sometimes "laser". What is correct? Does it use an (old school) laser to measure the distance, or does it have a radar? Or does it not use both of it and only the camera instead?
Hi! It depends on the trim. Does your emblem has texture to it or is it flat?
@@TheCarCareNut The car will be here in 2 weeks, but I think it's not flat.
Lane departure assist in Europe is absolutely useless.
Most highways have 3 lanes in Europe 2 lanes you drive in and a half lane each side so that people who want to pass you can straddle the middle and pass easily. I'm sure you can see the issues with this.
Very useful information. Thank you.
Every time I start the car, the safety system works perfect, but after around 30 min the system not working and it appears that front camera unavailable. What is the possible problem?
Hi! Is there any debris or dirt on the camera?
@@TheCarCareNut How can I ensure that the camera is dirty or not? If you mean the front sensor I cleaned it.
Hope you see this comment. I’m considering buying a Corolla hatchback. Is it easy to override the lane keep assist? I drive on back roads a lot where I have cyclists and pedestrians on the side of the road and I like to give them a wide berth as a courtesy. Or, is it easy to turn off while driving (a physical button) or do you need to pull over to access it on a software menu?
Hi! On the corolla you can turn it off very easily without stopping. Once you turn it off it stays off until you turn it on again
Thank you!
I thumb up your video as always; but automation is not something I am looking forward to. If Toyota wants to improve safety, they might as well open up a high performance/defensive driving school.
Do high performance driving schools prevent distractions on the road
How do weather conditions effect the camera?
Our 2020 Camry Hybrid has "P" can it up grade to "2" with lane keeping?
At the dealership level there’s no update available to add it.
@@TheCarCareNut
Tks--really enjoy your very useful vids.
@@chucksautter6154 This is how they force people to upgrade to the newest model..lol.
I've found that these gimmicks are pretty useless and at worst dangerous. Many times full beam is activated then immediately deactivated looking as if you are flashing another vehicle. This could make someone pull out in front. The collision warning triggers regularly for no reason but didn't work when it was needed. I'm glad its it's only a warning on the display
AMD: My 2018 RAV-4 (gas engine) blinks something on the dash that says the system is disabled at under 32 MPH. I don't know if this means it will not stop or whether it means the lane keeping assist function is disabled. The statement disappears very quickly. What does this statement mean? I should know by now, but I have never had the system slam on the brakes. Please help me figure out this technology.
Hi bob! That message it totally normal. So the lane keep assist which is a feature in your car doesn’t work at speeds below 32 mph and the car is showing the message to let you know that. If it bothers you, you can shut off the lane keep assist and it won’t appear again.
Awesome videos.
Can I ask?...
When I back up with my bikes on the hitch mount bike rack, the RAV4 Prime brakes. Is there something I can do about that?
Unfortunately no. It sees that the bikes are incoming objects.
@@TheCarCareNut that's too bad. Thanks for replying.
My 19 Corolla Hatch XSE Auto High Beams picks up even a road signs and turns off the high beams, so it's don't really works this perfect