Does Lexus Self-Driving Stack Up to Tesla and GM? Self-Driving Showdown!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 เม.ย. 2023
- I take a closer look at the best self-driving technology Lexus offers in my 2023 Lexus NX350H. We'll dive deep into the nitty-gritty details of the system, examining its adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, automatic lane change assist, and much more.
I also compare its performance to the industry-standard Tesla autopilot system and General Motors Super Cruise system. We'll examine how the Lexus system handles real-world driving scenarios, from stop-and-go traffic to high-speed highway driving in both clear and rainy weather conditions to see which autonomous system takes the crown.
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I have the 20 NX and it has the adaptive cruise control with lane keep (not as advanced as 23, but still great) - I love it! It’s the perfect road trip car. Been on multiple road trips with it and it’s an amazing feature. Makes road trips a lot less stressful and a lot more enjoyable!
100% and that is the real use case here and so that’s why I really do stand by saying the tech gives you 95% of the value that the Tesla provides.
There is a device you can install on most newer cars that make them self driving look up Comma A.i.
I got a tx350 a week ago for the wife and coming from a 2021 rx350 the driver assist system is so much better. The self driving and traffic jam assist is incredible.
Nice to see it work well in the rain ☔
The quality of the automated control systems, especially in traffic jam situations, will become a bigger and bigger factor for people in making their car buying decision. If you did a video series comparing all the major brands’ systems and rating them using some standardized method, I think you’d get a ton of views. Thanks again and will subscribe!
Completely agree with you and welcome to the channel! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Traffic situations should REMAIN 100% MANUAL DRIVING to avoid you idiots from doing ignorant things behind the wheel while SURROUNDED by other commuters. Want everything easy. TF!? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@carswithsondurenlane Change almost sent you into the back of a tanker... Stop relying on your vehicle and STOP BEING LAZY.
Thanks for the review it was super helpful and good to see that it was being used on local Toronto streets
Thanks man and welcome to the channel :)
According to one note, the video is Lexus System 3.0. Toyota Sense 3.0 apparently doesn't have lane change assist. Toyota Safety Sense 3.0 is apparently on 2023 Corolla, 2024 Crown, Grand Highlander, Cruiser, Tacoma.
Today I tried the adaptive cruise control on my drive between Toronto and Hamilton. Awesome system, worked really well!!
The title to this video says the Lexus 3.0 Safety System is self-driving. It is NOT a self-driving system that you can compare to the Tesla. It is a fantastic system that will ASSIST you when you select the Adaptive Cruise Control feature, but its not a Hands-Free system. This video is very informative though.
Thank you so much for this video !
Thank you for doing this type of video, not a lot of car journalists include this type of review for these assistant systems. It would have been great if you also clarified difference between DRCC/ACC vs Lexus traffic jam assist (hands free under 40kph)
Thanks and yes I’ll do a follow up video on that as well!
Is the semi-autonomous feature included in the luxury package?
And do you get software updates as they improve the semi-autonomous feature?
Great vid! Question: which system is your favorite for freeway driving? FSD, supercruise, bmw Highway Assistant? Thanks!
I wouldn't call adaptive cruise control "Self-Driving" unless it can do everything a human driver can. But the Lexus adaptive cruise control is much better than so many others I've driven. I tried the subaru one a while back when I was on a 7 hour road trip and it was horrible. The lane keep function was on but it kept bouncing me left and right inside my lane and it was a disaster.
The lane change assist did not work (unavailable) when you were driving in the left lane because the car in the center lane was too close for the Lexus to move over safely. Note when you passed that vehicle then the lane change feature worked. I have a '23NX and find the self driving assist feature is miles ahead of the system I had in my 2018 Honda Accord Touring, although that one was fairly good at the time. The Lexus system keeps better lane and distance control and I've driven 10 miles at a time just touching the steering wheel when prompted.
Normally, these systems can understand solid line(s) can’t switch too
Great video! I am getting my NX 450h+ tomorrow. I had no idea that the lane change assist did that! Very cool. New subscriber!
Welcome to the channel Drew! Congratulations on your NX. Very hard to get that specific model as well. You’re going to absolutely love it! What colour combination did you get?
@@carswithsonduren I got the Cloudburst Grey exterior, and the black/red interior. Luxury model
Beautiful man good luck with the pick up tomorrow!
@@carswithsonduren Yeah, ordered it December 19th 2022. Has taken a while. But I am sure it was worth the wait. Built in Japan, final assembly, so you know it is going to be amazing.
Ultimately it will be the Death Tolls that decide which system is best. There needs to be a website with current numbers with an odometer for each system from every manufacturer.
ok ,so land change assist can get you into another lane if there is space. What happens if there is no opening? Does it give you a warning?
How do you adjust the information in the multidisplay in the dash? Elapse time and distance driven?
Thank you for posting this video. It was super helpful. Does the adaptive cruise control work in the evening with poor lighting or no street lights?
I actually use these features for the first time 3 days ago while leaving forsaken Montreal to Toronto. I was eating a Greek salad while the car was driving itself, lol.
Epic hahaha glad it made the drive more bearable 😂
Love this. Thanks.
Ps. How is the interior holding up? I love this color but wondering if it stains or shows dirt easily over time??
The warning sign is short because it isnt “self drive” feature to begin with. It is a active assist for the driver, so u’re not supposed to put ur handa off of it
Thanks for the information! Appreciate your detailed review. I'm kind of disappointed, as I shop for a new car, though. Beyond the lane change feature, my 2018 Audi has all of these. I'm sure they're more refined now, but was kind of hoping for something similar to Super Cruise or BMW's eye monitoring system.
True but I’d say it is definitely more refined and gets the job done adequately!
Thankyou so much for the great review. Your explanations of what the system was doing and the comparisons between the systems was very informative. I would like to buy a Lexus product and only wish that the self driving feature tied into the GPS so it would know not to take the exit and that the driver could get a longer time before it nagged you to put your hands on the steering wheel. I wonder if future updates to the system for the features I would like is possible in the future.
Please produce a video on the intuitive parking feature
Fantastic video! How does it do in stop and go traffic? I was noticing that the RX and new Prius Prime have Traffiv Jam Assist but the NX does not.
It does great in stop and go traffic. Only nuances if you go to a complete stop for longer than 3 second, you need to either tap the gas or hit resume on the steering wheel.
Does the 2024 ES300h have this? Also, do you need to apply steering input (pressure) with your hands for it to recognize that you are touching the wheel, or does it sense your touch?
Does the 2020 NX and LX have this ??? and if not when did it come into being. ??
Beautiful interior!
Thanks for this video… I never knew the car can change lanes on its own like that while still in adaptive driving mode
Yeap they got some good features that make the system very useful and up to par vs the competition on this regard.
@cars with sonduren: Wait a minute, did you say the 2023 NX has lane change assist as a standard feature? I just received delivery of my 23 RX350 luxury trim and I don’t see the lane change assist listed as part of the Lexus safety systems 3.0 which should be standard. I haven’t been on the highway to try it and see maybe it’s there or not. The lane change assist looks kool in your video though. Also, how did you get you dynamic navigation to show in 3D format in the Lexus NX? Is that android auto connect?
Lane keep assist is standard, but lane change assist you have to see if it’s included in your package. That is Apple CarPlay but Android Auto is similar.
When I was picking up my 350h white pearl with Palomino I was driving 100miles back home on highway. Honestly I have a Camry hybrid 2019 as well but what Lexus introduced here is a master technology for me. I only touched the wheel every few moments but in general it could drive highways by its own. I was shocked how soft is breaking and accelerating comparing to my Camry 2019. Unbelieveble step ahead. My family is also growing. Resolution next week. Keep the fingers crossed :)
I’m getting a similar model, thanks for sharing!
Congrats on the growing family as well :)! Great to see how much the dynamic cruise control is improving since 2019.
I have the same car and completely agree - this is the epitome of S M O O T H.
Will the car do city driving to a stop and then on a green light accelerate back up to speed?
great vid - couple points: it's not "3 car lengths for radar setting variables"
Hi Sonduren,
Do you feel like the NX is noisy with the run flat tires? Thanks for all your videos. I test drove one and hoping to get one soon.
Hey Cara! Honestly did not feel it was too noisy and I am with the run flats now. People must have professional microphones as ears. It is not something that I notice driving around.
You will hear more drone from the engine vs the tire noise.
NoNot only noisy, but rough riding. First thing I do when I buy a car with run flats is swap em out for regular all season Michelins. Gtg. Also stay away from the all seasons that have that v shaped tread as those are noisy as well.
Can you use adaptive cruise in city stop and go traffic?
I hate how the wipers don't sweep that quarter of a foot of the side of the windshield. Winter time with all that snow will drive me crazy
I agree it’s such a small little annoyance I wonder if it can be adjusted.
I am a Japanese viewer. It is a pity that Lexus in Japan has not stared selling this auto pilot system. 😢
Any government regulations? Lexus in Brazil are imported from Japan, the NX model has this function.
Yes it is mainly due to regulatory and legal reasons.
Awesome video Sonduren! I test drove a rental 2021 Camry with adaptive cruise and I loved it so much. Only thing I noticed is that it's not the best at taking the more sharper highway turns, does your UX ask you to take control when the highway gets more curvy?
Thanks Alan! There is actually a setting for the NX that allows you to dictate if it should slow slightly during sharper turns or keep the same speed. It’s been solid even around more curvy highway turning.
@@carswithsonduren Oh wow I never knew! Thank you!
I drove across Canada with santa fe and it would let me go few minutes at the time without touching the steering wheel. It will ask sooner if its windy or lanes are not visible.
does rav4 has same feature like lane change?
the adaptive cruise control when your hand is not on the steering wheel, is it touch or torque sensor? Thanks!
Torque I believe
Have you tried Traffic Jam Assist, it's a new technology for Lexus/Toyota with a sensor on the steering wheel.
I haven’t tried it, but all it really does get the car going again from a full spot automatically for any speeds under 30 km an hour.
Can you do this in stop and go traffic? My old 16 RC F had a adaptive cruise, but was cancelled at each full stop.
As long as the stop is short for a few seconds. If longer it stops.
Very nice review! Please test drive the new 2024 KIA EV9's HDA2 system! Thanks!
Will do and welcome to the channel :)
This is what I was wondering about Lexus cars. Thanks a ton. A question: Can the need for wiggling the wheel be also compensated by clicking the buttons on the wheel, like on tesla?
No, it cannot. You must wiggle the steering wheel.
@@carswithsonduren damn, wish it was possible to click on a button. Hate wiggling the steering wheel on tesla, sometimes does not pick up unless wiggled to an extent that would also steer the car a bit
Thanks for the demo. What if you hit a traffic jam and your car stopped completely for a brief moment. Does the system help move the car forward and follow the car in front of you bumper to bumper?
Yes it does if stopped for under 3 seconds or so :)
@@carswithsondurenso over 3s you have to tap the gas pedal again?
Or hit the + on the steering wheel which is what I do as it’s easier.
Try resting the palm of your hand on your leg while the back of your hand touches the steering wheel - you won't get the constant reminders to touch the steering wheel on adaptive cruise control.
Try sitting in the back of the car and letting a qualified drive chauffeur you!
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Is it capacitive touch steering wheel or does it need to you to move the wheel to recognize in order to keep it active?
It’s capacitive
Awesome thank you! I’m peaking at the new RX and this is great information especially since I like road trips!
I'd rather have the older system from 2021 because it's compatible with Comma 3X. Comma 3X running sunnypilot or frogpilot blows this out of the water. It stops at red lights and stop signs too. It set the semi-autonomous cannonball record beating the old record set by tesla autopilot.
A new RX350h/450h/500h have a heated Lexus logo (sensors). A first upgrade I will introduce to my car. Beside Lexus logo projector, additional shelf under the arm rest and fitcamx.
Oh the shelf is a brilliant idea. Any link for that?
🎉awesome review! Is it the 3.0 system version?
Yes 😎🙏
Looks like Lexus driving assist finally caught up with my 2018 Acura MDX. 🙂
Was this just added? I'm so confused by the terminology of Advanced Drive vs Teammate vs Adaptive Cruise control and which models have what. On Lexus's website it says only the LS EV has "Advanced Drive", which is what I thought this was. The NX and RX make no mention of any of these. They only have "Advanced Park". What is the RX's capability compared to the NX?
did you ever find out if the RX has this?
Do you have an answer?@@peekos
Lexus and GM Supercruise are BOTH level 2 semi-automomous driving features. They aren't capable of full self driving just for those to know. The super cruise has eye tracking which always monitors to make sure you are paying attention while driving. This feature is great my opinion rather than getting prompted to touch the wheel to ensure you're there.
Tesla FSD is also L2
@@jeffcarp280correct
My rx350h 2023 lca not working ? Can u help is my car is available that feature.lane changeing assist., but i have all the features my one 2023 rx350h luxury model
They just came out with a engine software update for this. Contact your dealer for more details.
my 24 rx says dynamic radar cruise control. are they the same thing?
Yes!
what is(are) other(s) model/years of toyota has the same Self-Driving function?
Can this self driving be updated in the future thru OTA (over the air) update? The problem with conventional car makers is that once you bought the car. The technology came with the car is locked for the year model. Unlike Tesla, their self driving is continuously updated thru OTA. A 2019 Tesla’s self driving is just as capable as 2024 Tesla with software updates that is pushed to all Tesla thru OTA updates. Just like your 4 year old iPhone have the same iOS as brand new iPhones.
toyota grand highlander has same self driving features?
Does Lexus sanction driving with hands off the steering wheel? The documentation for the U.S. version of the NX calls it a "hands on" feature and says that both hands should be kept on the steering wheel. Is the version for Canada different? Has documentation been revised? Things can go very wrong very quickly when there are confusing lane markings such as lane lines left over from highway construction diversions that don't match the current lane positions. The driver must remain alert all the time to verify that the vehicle is following the correct lane lines and not obsolete lane lines that lead to oblivion or more frequently when lane line are not visible such as when they are mostly worn away. This is a wonderful feature for reducing fatigue when carefully used. Sure ... take your hands off the steering wheel for a momentary stretch but put them back on the steering wheel quickly.
The fact that Toyota is behind it it would be top of it's class they have quality only .I would buy that without blinking
Can Lexus self driving able to use on residential street or only on highway speed ?
Yes, it can be used in residential streets as well
It wont make turns or stop like Tesla's system, but basic lane keep works.
If you want to test Lexus true self driving tech you should get a Lexus LS hybrid equipped with Lexus Teammate or a Lexus RX equipped with Traffic jam Assist
Yep I tried those as well in my review videos, awesome tech!
Works on any road? How about rural two lane roads without a divider in the road?
TESLA WILL.
Hi, I have a 2024 nx 350h premium which does not have lane change assist. My car has only lane keeping assist. It is disappointing not to have lane change assist function like your car. I found that NX Premium 2024 now has lane change assist and 360 degree mirror only $1,100 extra. I am sorry not to have lane change assist.
That is disappointing now but nothing you can do :(
Interesting! I wasn't aware that the 23 NX did lane changes for you. I drove t he 2022 and it didn't have that option.
Yep it does and it does it well!
He I see it is wireless Android Auto, can you make a video how to connect wireless Android Auto Sir. Thank you
Is it “safety system 3.0 or 2.5” please specify. Thanks
3.0
why do the buttons on the steering wheel look different? here we have the arrow keys you can control the HUD with
It's because that model that he is driving does not come with the Heads up Display (HUD) so that's why its different
I bought a 2023 kia sportage hybrid sx prestige and It takes 4mins before it asks to hold the wheel
I wish the others were like that.
You can get similar TSS 3.0 for way less money
I have a Lexus, you can over ride constantly touching the wheel by sticking a water bottle through the bottom left hole of the steering wheel. I drove 7 hours the other day and 90 percent was hands and feet free. I arrived home with very little fatigue. Incredible system.
you saying Incredible system when you exploited it 😭😭
Yo i did the same thing too. Lol but on temu have a device that look professional
@Nhatv6 which device
Prius Prime has this feature.. love it ❤ 2700 miles of fun
I just had a 2023 es350 and you don't have to touch the wheel on the highway...It tracks your eyes...
Tesla with FSD Beta does know which lane to be in.
Let’s test a RAV4 XLE Premium Hybrid. ( #1 Config)
VS The 350h
I’m down for this :)
I have a 23nx and with a bottle of water, it can self drive for hours and hand free. 😂😂😂
Please compare the Lexus system with the the Tesla Full Self Drive Beta for your audience.
Thanks for the video, this is quite the gimmick if you need driver input. I prefer GM/Chevy' just monitoring your eyes.
I agree personally, I think that the supercruise technology on the American vehicles is one of the best self driving systems on the market today
Is this Lexus Safety 2.5 or 3.0 ?? thanks
3.0
This lookes like a cruise control review.
Does it stop at red and green lights?
Unfortunately no.
The car would not go to the left when you were trying to cross into the HOV lane because there was a double white line. You know it's not legal to cross a double white line I guess the car knows this. Thank you 😊
How will it do in foggy days?
Does great I have tested in these conditions a few times.
If you're in the US why would use kph instead of mph??
What do you mean by car lengths
The manual refers to it as short, medium, long distances for following in adaptive cruise. 30, 40, 50 meters respectively.
I have a 2023 Toyota Corolla Hybrid with Safety Sense 3.0, I love it! Safety sense 3.0 pretty much drives itself. Makes my 40 mile commute easy. It doesn’t change lane on its own but I don’t mind.
Self drive is the incorrect term and is misleading. The misuse of that term leds to people trying to use the systems in a way in which they are not designed.
Exactly, the manufacturers simply need to change or add on "assist" because that's how the system is intended to work. It's assisting the driver with the task of driving.
@@MukisaSSI believe most manufacturers go out of their way not to call it self driving? I’m not sure about GM, but Lexus calls it LSS 3.0., Toyota TSS 3.0.
Brake, accelerate, keep centered, steer around corners, parallel park, change lanes and in some cases, require only eyes forward in stop and go traffic, i.e. no pedal or steering wheel input needed, BUT it’s not Waymo, so stay awake! , as a name or in a title sounds a little long to me. I’m willing to overlook the self driving tag.
I absolutely love how my Tesla will decide to change lanes to go around slower Vehicles when it's clear. Also how it will change Lanes to get over to the on-ramp of a different freeway when need be, I've watched it do multiple quick changes to complete complicated scenarios. Just blows my mind. Something that you wouldn't experience on a single day rental use. The more videos like this I see the more I love my Tesla.
Yeah but I don’t like giving money to musk. He is a jerk.
@@NathanLabish 🙄🤡
does it follow navigation?
Unfortunately not
where in US can we drive above 100 miles ?
It's km, he's in Canada
tesla now use the interior camera
I have the same exact car but it’s a 2022 and the steering wheel configuration is different mines nicer. It has like customizable touch buttons. what’s up with that why did they delete that?
Does this vehicle have safety sense 3.0?
Yes it does!
3:30 not automatic if you have to hold the stalk 😂🤦♀️ Semi-automatic
it's easy when there is no cars. you should test it in a situation where many cars around
the only thing of interest here is the rearview camera mirror
These are only the most basic levels of assisted driving and are still far from self-driving. Self-driving can at least automatically enter and exit ramps based on GPS, automatically follow cars, automatically overtake, and automatically avoid obstacles.
This feature is dangerous on any car. When driving the inside of a curving country road where the lines are faint, there is a great risk of the computer giving up and it'll veer right into the oncoming lane. I'm amazed how this feature is legal.
Better really watch it when driving the outside of a curving country road, because an oncoming car could be one of those ones where that feature is used.
After watching this video, I’ve learned how grateful I should be to own a Tesla model y with FSD 💪🏽
Yea same here... I own both of these systems and it's a night & day difference if you compared to fsd. The free autopilot in teslas, not even fsd, used to do this or even better yearsss ago.. Now if you talk about fsd.. My fsd the other day even noticed a crow on one lane road on a rainy day, calculated the speed n direction the bird was walking to and made a mili second decision to maneveour around the bird just in time without scaring other cars on the road... I only drive lexus when I wanna just slowly cruise around with better ride comfort tho. Not for auto driving.
I get spoiled by Tesla FSD. It becomes difficult when shopping for hybrid or ice car as backup vehicle for our family. No other car makers can offer self driving to the level like Tesla.