What they're not telling you about the New Sportster S Harley
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I’ve owned 2 Sportsters. A 2007 1200c and an 1999 883c and I loved both of them. Even riding solo or with a passenger on the highways or carving mountain road-trips they always kept up with the big bikes my friends were riding. I recently sold my 883 because I found a 2011 Dyna Wide Glide (my dream bike since I was a little kid). Im 6’1 and wanted a bigger bike, I ever once did I regret riding my Sportys. They will always have a special spot in my heart.
The old ones look fantastic!
@@johnharris7353 I loved my ‘99. Ironically the guy I sold it to turned around and sold it to my uncle and his old lady a week later.
My 2000 883 was the worst motorcycle I ever owned. I bought it new and my experience with it made me decide I would never buy another motorcycle from HD ever in my entire life.
I had a 07 1200 w Vance and Hines shorty exhaust and it sounded awesome. Pearl yellow w every possible chrome on it. My bucket list bike is a 06 Screaming Eagle Vrod in Pearl Yellow
The “girl’s bike” logic always made me laugh. The Sportster is faster than a lot of other Harley’s and much more agile lol
Stupid comment, especially all the Lil crap bikes he rides?
@@johnquest1044 lol what?
It’s a mini bike
@@lonewolvesonwheels I’m 6’1 and my old sporty never felt too small for me with forward controls.
@@TonyTheTruckGuy ya well I spent some time at Harley yesterday and this little bike is smaller than the older sporty
I just recently stumbled upon your page and have been hooked since the first video. thank you, I am a father of two and pray every day to get home to them. But I am human and I love excitement. Your videos provide me with the knowledge and confidence I need. when you said to keep all the settings and riding around in rain mode for a little while to get comfortable with the bike. I appreciate and stand behind that as a father I enjoy showing my son your videos and going over the safety points and excitement that riding gives us . Don’t stop!!! Keep the videos, laughs and information coming🎉
I can honestly say the controls are gonna vary for each person. I recently started working at Harley, I’m obsessed with the sportster s and the forwards feel very natural and comfy for me
I'm more into sports bikes I have a Hayabusa but my body is beat up now i want something more comfortable with a tune can you get more horsepower out of this thing with a power commander or ECU Flash
I'm sorry to here that.
I'm not a harley fan at all. But I can appreciate the sound of a traditional harley. And this sounds nothing like it. They are in a tough spot. They've held on to tradition so long that they really aren't going to have success trying to change. Plenty of import bikes that will out perform this for less money.
Indeed. Old harleys have their place. Why buy this when there are much better alternatives.
I was going to say it sounds very calm and foreign if that makes any sense
They shot themselves in the foot back in the 80's; it just took this long for them to realize it. There was a severe lack of forward-thinking.
its like the v-rod or xr1200st. they try to change it up and ppl only wan road glides
The thing is, the fanbase who do want the classic Harleys are getting smaller and smaller as they grow older. Younger generation does not have the same emotional attachment to the classic Harley styling and sound. If Harley wants to survive they also need to evolve and get on with the times, modernise their lineup while keep a few retro style bikes for people who do want them. Triumph got it right and are now doing really well.
Honestly if they want to get a new crowd they should make it customizable to a small degree at purchase. A new rider wants mids? Swap controls at no charge
I agree 100%. That bike should come with mids standard. The forwards should be an accessory.
You're high if you think a Harley-Davidson stealership will do ANYTHING for free.
BTW, no sport bike on earth has mids or forwards. Rearset for speed.
The comfort and body position on the Harley is what is important to me. 08 Sportster 1200 C and my 2014 ultra Ltd. never ceases to impress me. I have the power I need and the rumble to accommodate it. Not about speed for me, cruising is most comfy with character. Mid controls and a forward lean is a racing posture, the forward controls deep seat and back rest is cruising posture. Many styles for all ages.
I like the riding position of it, to be honest it feels REALLY good, the bike throws you hard so I find the controls forward and the angle to be quite suited
My only problem with the new Harleys is the prices. With that MSRP you can buy a BMW or a Ducati. And that sound is kinda anemic.
I have a 2018 Ultra Classic and wanted something smaller as my "around town" bike. Picked up the 2022 Sporster S in the mineral green. It's amazing! As an IT guy, I love the tech. As a Harley rider, I love the power. Already modded the bike with the Reach bars and heated grips. Makes the bike way more comfortable.
I'm glad to hear you enjoy it, and I have rented and ridden an Ultra Classic from Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon and more, they're THE best...though, I would like to say that if you really enjoy the new Sportster, hop on a 2000's Buell if you ever have the chance. All of them are great, but more specifically one of the Rotax powered ones.
Eric was pushing Harley for this bike over 15 years ago, but they were adamant it wouldn't sell.
Interesting to see how their opinion has changed.
I was diggin it until I heard you turn it on 😂 thought you were about to mow the lawn 😭
All their stocks exhausts sound like crap. That one just happens to look like full blown aids as well. lol.
Thanks for the info, what the name of your helmet and the dash cam on it. ?
THANK U, SEAN! I was wondering if I'm the only one who actually likes the rear fender. I think it looks awesome. The CB1000R and Rocket 3 have a similar fender and it's really cool! 👍🏽
Pretty cool bike! I test rode one and was impressed by the power and handling. I then immediately test rode a Triumph Rocket 3 R and couldnt believe the power of it and it handled about as well as the Harley. Ended up getting a Rocket 3 R, but the Sportster S is a great new direction for Harley.
Time is a circle, sportster is still competing with Triumphs, and British bikes, lol.
Good choice, Triumph comes with a little more class.
That rocket 3 is an absolute monster.
Thank for the review. Bought one of these today. Would have loved to come to your shop but I live in Canada :)
Sean, what do you think about the handling in slower speeds and turning. Thanks,
Joe
Great review, Sean. It's good to see Harley Davidson updating the engine on the Sportster. Old school people like me, 67 years old, who owns, races, and works on my own bikes, are still stuck in the stone ages, lol. God Bless.
Jim I’m in the Same boat racing a shovelhead spending tons of money to have fun 😂
The Sportster S isn’t even the bike replacing the old Sportsters. I don’t k ow why Harley says that. Really the Nightster will be the closest thing to the old sportsters. It’s got a 975 cc engine instead of a 1250. But it’ll definitely be more powerful than the old sportsters
Long live the stone age!
Nothing wrong with the Stone Age. My 1997 xl has more ponies and torque than the rev max sportster s and it weighs about the same. Sure it’s somewhat modified but it’s still a daily rider that gets 47mpg on 91 octane pump gas and runs mid elevens in the quarter and low sevens in the eighth. I also like some of today’s technology but absolutely do not want any of the electronic nannie stuff. So I recently bought a 2022 Yamaha mt07. The thing is an absolute hoot to ride.
@@scrumthebum2451
Yes, tons of money, and we love it. This has been a bad year for SCTA Land Speed Racing, Bonneville, and El Mirage. So many cancellations due to rain. I just found out they canceled our last race of the year for this coming weekend. Raining today and tomorrow.
1. The sportster s does have QC issues with the electrical connections; mine has been in the shop twice within a months time. And 2 the costs is closer to 18-20k. With those two items the motor is strong and I have had an enjoyable time. But I wouldn't recommend for brand new riders unless they keep it in rain or road mode.
$20k?!? Damnnnnnn....
Dealer near me has one for 15k
@@mattsloop2736 Not 15k out the door, mine was 14,999, but with tax, license and fees it was 20k.
@@glitchtriple6 5k for taxes and fees seems a bit steep.
@@mattsloop2736 pretty normal, had to pay high interest because I'm in Washington. Plus title and fees plus Harleys dumb freight surcharge on every bike. Also just looked at the paperwork it was 15,400 because I got the midnight crimson.
My first road bike was a 1984 honda v30 magna, only made for 2 years, v4 500cc engine making 64 hp, started riding it in hay field on farm, yeah i dropped it a few times on street tires. Pretty high hp for a small bike and old so you don't care about it much, topped out at 90mph at 8,000 rpm 6 gear, definitely a starter bike a young guy could get hurt on but for a $2k best ride and great seat I drove it to work and home at 2am at night many times.
I work for YVO and we kept the last Sportster however it's an 883 iron. Most of the company signed the bike so it's covered in marker. The 1200 is still out there idk if I would know where but all of our sporsters were sold.
That 1200 will be worth silly money in the future
I own 2010 Forty-Eight. It’s the only year they made it with the orange-peanut gas tank. I get compliments for it from every Harley owner that sees it up close. It’s stage 3 and is an absolute monster.
I had a 2013 '48, and loved the handling, but could'nt take the constant "filling the tank", but loved the sound compared to this..
@@kevinesh8544 Even the 3.3 gallon tank as apposed the the 2 gal on the 48 makes a huge difference for sure.
What does stage 3 look like for that 1200??
That 2010 model 48 I had was the best bike I ever owned to date. 13,000 miles in 7 months. I made a stupid decision to get a night train. I still kick my ass for getting rid of that 1200.
Just recently picked up a 2022 48. Getting taller bars, new exhaust, and a better seat to ride the wheels off of it. And in a few years when my daughter is confident riding I will get something else and she can ride it through ANOTHER SET OF WHEELS!
My trip to Dallas and back to Louisville recently, I noticed my 2006 Sporster 1200 Low did an average of 45 mpg just by cruising 80 mph.
I wouldn't be surprised if this Sportster S can crush that far more than the reported MPG if put at its max on the highway since it's fuel injeted and liquid cooled.
Had a 2002 1200 custom and I loved that bike, fast and nimble and yes I got 45mpg, I did @ 800 miles a week to and from work
Great review Sean! The extra modes and assistive devices are one way to go for a newer rider, but I would generally recommend the old school method (for new riders) of buying a good used bike you can handle. Learn to ride it properly and then get a more powerful bike if you feel the need. That said, the new Sportster looks like a lot of fun! Ride on!
This is a scam
I like the mode idea for sensible older returning riders.
And I agree with you about new riders getting smaller, lighter bikes to learn on. Those lightweight bikes are great for learning.
I have this same bike in black. I also did mid controls and it has TBR exhaust and TBR rear fender delete. I love it. On the track, it is a formidable bike. The ABS on this bike is probably the best there is on the market. It’s a lot of fun.
Absolutely!!!
Please tell us how you know the ABS is the best on the market? What did you compare it too?
@@petebusch9069 If only Ducati could learn from Harley and sort their electronics out… 😂
@@sp00ky1969 What are you trying to say, your comment makes no sense at all.
@@petebusch9069 Read it again but from the perspective that I might be agreeing with you. Perhaps assume some sarcasm to my comment and then see if you can make sense of it. 👍
Cool nice review.... just wondering if the spider webs come included when shipped...
to be honest, a year ago you were very enthusiastic and you produced a good video.The bikes aren't selling and I'm looking at buying an older used sportster
Old timer here….and H-D owner (super glide) . I’m very happy the company they’ve re-invented the Sportster. It outlived its design by several years. It’s not a all uses bike. It’s an urban attack bike and as such acquits itself nicely. I’m thinking you will revisit the mid-position pegs. It’s a smallish ride and the cramped position will get old. The term “Sportster” in the ‘50s I think didn’t mean sports bike in our understanding of the term. Oh, and I understand exactly why it has to be…..but that exhaust note is the saddest sounds to emanate from a Harley……..sigh….
Agree 100% about the sound, almost like a small 2 stroke engine? I am sure H D could have engineered the exhaust to sound better. Even the Indian Scout 69 cubic inch engine sounds better than this.
Dennis your so right about the saddest sound. It's one of the reasons I sold my Pan America.
@@2wheelsrbest327 why get ride of a bike because of the stock exhaust note. Thats why there is the aftermarket performance exhaust industry. Duh!!!
@@paulwojnar2291 Fair comment. It wasn't so much the exhaust note as the sound of the engine. There were a few other niggles but as I think I said it just didn't suit me. To be honest I am on my third GS and it sounds & handles exactly how I want a bike to.
@@2wheelsrbest327 no argument from me there. The GSA is an awesome machine.
I have to say I kinda like the new Sportster. I'm glad they updated it. Mind you I'm not a Harley guy, well not anymore. I used to eat, sleep and dream Harley. Though the only Harley I owned was a 1984 Roadster. A Sportster with a fat bob style tank and 9 spoke solid wheels. I loved that bike but hated the Keihin carburetor. That sucker would clog if it sat for a few weeks. I was in the military and had to travel a lot. I'd get home and want to go for a ride but had to clean the carb first. I put three carb kits on it in 4 years.
@Patrick O'Brien I wasn't blaming Harley.
I rode a new sportster from California to Boston. No prob in the late sixties had fun could still do it again
Nice video! I think I need to see these new sportsters up close, because they just don't look as appealing to me as the 1200 & 883 sportsters in terms of design. Especially the Sportster S which looks too compact and uncomfortable. But it looks like Harley is progressing in terms of technology with these new models. On another note, I do wish my Harley Switchback had cruise control like the new Sportsters.
I love my 21 sportster s as well. The heated hand grips are an extra you have to pay more for. I was bummed when it was advertised as standard and then upon receiving the bike I was informed it was not standard. I am 6'2" so I am a bit on the taller side. If I was about 5'6" it would be perfect size.
I installed the heated grips, passenger pillion with back rest, and took off the swing-arm and added the 2 brothers license plate LED frame. I hope I can get a different exhaust and tune before too long.
The maps is garbage so I just use my apple watch for directions and leave the screen on my music controls. The cruise control and riding modes works really well and I use them all the time. I can ride all year in AZ so well worth it to me.
Check out an FTR1200, it's capabilities are second to none. Wheelies, drifts, stoppies, cruising, city riding. Does it all. Just a more brutal bike, so keep that in mind. It's very rowdy.
Different experience for me. I love the bike, the best I have ever owned. I knew the heated grips were not on it before I ordered it and I ordered it two days after it was announced. So that is kind of on you (the button is there because the cover unit is the same as the Pan America that comes with them). Maps I find usable when within city limits. The seat and tail I just went with Corbin, no passenger. I also went with a bar riser (40mm up and 25mm back) and the HD smoke screen.
The one thing in common here though that you don't get with a different street bike... Because it is a HD we could modify it to our personal preference within 6 months of its release because manufacturers know they will make money in selling those parts. Your bike is built to you, mine is built to me. A GSX 1000 is still shitty to ride for more than an hour 10 years after you buy it. This is my first HD and I would struggle to buy from a different manufacturer. If there is something off to you on this bike, just find the modification you need and order it.
@@MrEiniweini there’s not really a big aftermarket for this specific bike from what I can tell, outside of pegs or hand grips. I’d like to change the LED turn signals into something smaller and change out the exhaust. Outside of having it custom ordered, there’s maybe like 2 brothers and that’s it for an exhaust. I keep up with the forums and most everyone has just done custom work themselves.
@@jordanjoestar8839 and the FTR lets you sit on it "properly" ...
@@THR33-LAWS-SAF3 The TBR exhaust was released two weeks after the bike. More a money making feat than an engineering spectacular. The exhaust heat is something I have seen every person that got it have to try to find a way around. V&H has an option of full exhaust or slip ons I think. Really expensive though. I ride home from work at midnight so a loud exhaust will only get me a rope across the road. I would like to get rid of the sewing machine exhaust sound though.
I think your 0-60 was a lot quicker when you were merging with traffic. A lot of the things you like are the things I don't care for. I prefer an analog gauge, I don't need riding modes, and I don't care for the fat front tire. I do love that engine. I also prefer mid controls. I think if I had to choose between this and the Pan America that this would come in second place mainly because of the comfort over a longer ride. Might be a different choice if they came out with the Bronx with this engine instead of the 975.
Have you ridden the bike?
@@freebehindbars8654 I haven't ridden one. I have sat on one with the forward controls and I didn't like the seating position. The seat definitely would not be comfortable for more than a few hours at most. The Nightster is more comfortable position and the Pan America is even more comfortable. I have six bikes and these new digital speedometers are just awful and the tachometers are just useless.
@@CraigSmith568 I think you just hate technology cuz there is nothing wrong with the digital speedometer or tachometer. The worlds advancing and better technology will keep coming out stay stuck in the past with all your analog gauges but don’t try and shit on the new stuff just out of spite.
@@XSkyKingXx It isn't out of spite. A digital tachometer is ok if you are at a steady speed, but trying to read one that is revving up is terrible. I can see an analog speedometer knowing where the needle is without having to look at it and process the actual number taking my eyes off of the road. Just because it has more technology in it doesn't mean it's better. Honda Goldwing still has an analog tach and speedometer and it has some of the most tech of any bike out there. Just like having bluetooth on a bike when I don't even listen to music when I ride. Because I don't like something doesn't mean I'm shitting on it. I'm just saying I don't want to pay for something that I don't use. I have my opinion and I'm not changing it because someone else doesn't like it.
@@XSkyKingXx Saying someone should like new tech regardless if its better or worse sounds a lot more like spite than someone saying they prefer something else.
You go enjoy all the new tech for the sake of it and when you find it harder to read than the analogue ones you only have you to blame.
Of course you will also be paying more for that tech - even though it costs less to fit.
You sound like the kind of guy who would say "gobble gobble" then vote for a holiday near the end of December...
I had one. It will not get 49 mpg in any drive mode. From a previous owner here are the short comings of the bike; fuel tank is too small, the shock travel is 1.5 inches, and the phone/Nav interface is very poor at best. Strong point, the motor. It's pretty fast. If HD put a better shock on and a bigger tank it would be a much better bike. Oh, it doesn't come with heated grips, they are not there, the button and symbol is but not installed.
I traded mine in on a used last year 1200 Roadster. Sometimes old is just better and a little slower is ok.
And BTW Brother, there is a recall on your starter clutch motor. That sound it makes when your starter engages, have HD fix that.
I love my 21 Sportster S. Traded out of a VRod Muscle for it with no regrets. Thanks to Appalachian Harley for being awesome to deal with.
Does it feel as rowdy as the vrsc? I ride a night rod. Considering moving on to a sportster s in the future but I'm afraid they may feel "tamer" than my V.
@@87Lowbird Results may vary, but for me, it’s much more rowdy than my Muscle was. I can throw it around much easier than then the VRod, and the acceleration is incredible. My best advice is to ride one, put it in sport mode and gather your own opinion on it.
@@stephencavrich5457 You must be out of your mind if you had a V-Rod in good condition and traded it for that.
@@dr.jillalicecooper2587 ya think!!! Lol lol. Alice rules
It seems as if everyone forgets about Buell. So much of what was old is new again.
I still ride my 98 Buell S3 Thunderbolt it's an awesome bike that's the best of both worlds!
@@wayne5607 right? Way ahead of it’s time for sure. I miss my X1 terribly.
@@therealjasonseidel ! still have my 75 XLCH all done custom, right before I got the Buell, 54.9 RWH @ 6,300 out of an Ironhead 1,000 cc not stroked! Tested by Skeeter Todd in the EasyRiders truck with Dyno on it 1997!
I havnt forgot, rode my lightning powered sportster today.
Sounds like a turbo’d lawn mower. I have a 2019 iron 883. Love it.
I've ridden just about every style of Harley...this new sportster however, is the one I'm looking forward to putting my butt on the most. I own one of the last Deuces with a carb they made. Always thought that was the apex of the 88b bikes. The sportster 1200 was a great bike too, but never felt big enough for my build. The 48 was an improvement, but never had the power of a big twin. Looks like Harley got this one right...I'll probably get one once I sell this deuce.
Seeing the new “sporster” makes me appreciate my ‘15 Forty Eight a lot more. I can’t stand how this bike sounds. All we needed was the tech from this, a bump in power and classic sounds and looks.
The sound is down to the exhaust being constructed to pass European exhaust standards. You put an exhaust on it, you’re only really going to tell the difference at idle.
More importantly, you should consider that Harley was never going to give you the power bump. Even with a 131 crate motor, they were only ever going to make a bigger engine, because why would they bother? They know their customers will pay a premium for just displacement, then go out and spend thousands more on cams, intakes, exhausts, and tunes. Like, you guys did this to yourselves, then when they build an actually good engine that competes with other brands, y’all are still complaining.
Bingo
@@altortugas5979 if you’ve ever heard a sporster S with an exhaust, you’ll know it sounds terrible. They could have made something similar to an Indian scout. Sounds fantastic and makes great power. I think the sportster S is a good standalone bike, just not a replacement.
@@kevinhendley8524 I've heard both the Sportster S and Nightster S in person and they sound 10x better in person than on video. Do they sound like a traditional Harley? No. But IMO they sound great different but great. They sound modern and that is because they are. The aftermarket will develop exhausts to satisfy people like you (No offense intended).
Yeah, I’ve heard terrible clips and decent clips, but facts, they sound way different in person. And, if I’m not mistaken, the 90 degree firing order is basically a better sounding version of a 270 degree crank on a p-twin. I ride a Rebel 1100 with a TBR slip-on, hang out with a bunch of Harley-owning club-riders, and they all think it sounds great. I don’t for a second believe a Sportster S will sound worse IRL than my Rebel.
Still doesn't make sense to me. If you want it to put the sport in Sportster, then ditch the goofy fat front tire, put on mid controls from the factory, and add another disc up front. Why bother with adjustable suspension bits if you have a front tire that's twice as wide as it should be and only a single front disc on a 500+ pound bike? Also if they really want to attract newer or younger riders, put out a 750cc equivalent with ~70hp as you'd have to be foolish to think of this as a first bike.
love your vid , I honestly love the sportster 883 , I owe the #1 of the assembly line from 2004 has 23k and last year got converted into a bobber. I love it.
I rode a '66 Sportster, S&S 4 5/8" stroke, 3 1/4" Dytch barrels for 77". S&S GAL carb, Sifton minus-minus cams. Magneto. The only gauge was a Smiths Tachometer. It weighed 440lbs and was very very fast. These new PanAm motors have a 3'" stroke like a Ducati and a huge bore. Perfect for a race bike and a 3-4K bandwidth. My old stroker was a tractor with a huge power envelope. The Pan Am motors require a downshift to pass someone at freeway speeds. Mine was 100% trouble free. This S has dozens of ways to fail or break. And I think it is made in India.
The old sprotster had top quality high strength fasteners made in the US, the chain was a Diamond #1 available at any hardware store in the US.
Mid controls should be a no charge option for the bike. Can't wait to see if the Motor Co. releases the Bronx anytime soon!👍
Not happening
This is how they double their profits, you basically buy the bike twice.
I love the new sportster, but it will never sound like my sportster. I have a 2006 883 sportster. Last year with the carburetor. I was able to tune and adjust to get that beautiful classic horse hoof/potato sound. The news can't do that. I have had so many people want my bike because of it. I have no shame owning mine.
I like the looks and the power that it offers, but the sound off the engine!! Would like to hear it with some nice pipes on it. Also getting a lot more technical goodies on the bike which I’m not a massive off but hey it is was it is!
I like that bike it looks good out of the box. My neighbour has one the same colour he has changed the exhaust and fitted a tail tidy. He has also painted that plastic bit on the tank the same colour as the tank, that looks better. 120bhp is good. Reminds me of bar hopper as it is pretty low. Love the colour of the engine that bronze colour.
Happy new year 🎉 from Sydney Australia..luv ur channel Sean and vast selection of motorcycle s..luv the Harleys and big jap cruisers...like v star 🌟 cruisers..
Cheers 🥂 bro
I have heard that the Pan America has been their best seller even over the cruiser side. The pan America can be a good all around bike with 150 horsepower. Plus the pan America has that magic carpet ride semiactive electronic suspension.
Mine was a joy up in the mountains Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming last summer. The Beartooth, Chief Joseph, and Yellowstone. I enjoyed the suspension, 2 up, more than anything.
if you can get over the look of it
i bought one about 6 months ago. My first harley. I hated the forward controls so much that I made my own rear sets, using a combination of honda and kawasaki parts, raised the back by 2 inches. set the suspension to the softest setting and . now i love riding this bike
Make a video showing the rears! I got mid controls for mine almost imediatley after purchasing the bike and absolutely love the bike now.. would be very curios in seeing rear controls
@@XavierSturzl never uploaded to TH-cam before not sure how it's done. Main reason why I made my own is because I am in Australia and the mid controls cost about $1.500 very expensive. So I had a look at pan America rearsets and installed Honda rearsets the same way.
Pan America rearsets fit on sportster S if you can find them
Mids should be standard, rearsets an accessory option. HARLEY CAN YOU HEAR US. We love your new bike but we are not fans of chopper style controls.
@@XavierSturzl what's your height? I mean how tall are you?
I traded my 2012 Forty-Eight in for a Triumph T120 Black. I def miss the comfort of the forward controls and the sweet sound but the Bonneville is the best all around bike
Had a sportster for 2yrs and 20k miles and loved it. Had sportbikes before and afterwards and none had come close to the fun the sporty was
Seriously!? 😂 ok 😏
Absolutely agree. Key word is fun. I have 3 bikes, Streetglide ST, Pan Am, and a 1200 Roadster. The Roadster is by far the fun bike of the 3. It's set up like a Café bike, not the "best" of the 3, but the most fun by far.
A lowrider and a sporty side by side in the garage. The sporty gets the call 99 pct of the time. Sold the hog and kept the sporty. I am strictly an around town rider anymore and it's perfect for me. I love some of the new bikes like the Breakout but I know it would just sit there.
Imo Harley's biggest hurdle is their MSPR, for people that aren't brand loyal it's hard to justify spending the extra money on a Harley just for the name, I just bought a Suzuki Boulevard because it could get a bike similar to an ultra classic for a fraction of the cost.
Well cheif harley is and always has been premium brand. U look at the prices of a new Indian, BMW, Or Ducati??? Get use to it.
@@fvgc454ss or I just continue to buy Japanese bikes that do the exact same job, I don't need to spend the extra money just to say I have a Harley/BMW/Ducatti, I like to ride, not brag about what I ride.
@@russelld5838 no one cares.
@@fvgc454ss apparently you do
I'm 71 and started riding in the mid 60's. Through the years I've had Triumphs, BSA's , Norton's a couple of Japanese bikes, a scary Jawa with a side car, 25 years of various BMW's and last year I picked up a garage kept 2011 Sportster with 6800 miles on it. I wanted a change, so I got the Harley. I'm very happy with it. It talks to me like my old British bikes. Easy to take care of with the belt drive , electronic ignition, fuel injection, tubeless tires and thousands of parts available.
That's interesting. What do you need to know ?
the current x future customer example had me dying. This is literally me lmao
when you started it .... wow ... kinda sounds like a KTM 390 :))
Stock pipe numb nuts. Nothing with a stock pipe sounds cool
Or a leaf blower
I like my 2006 Ultra gline, but sometimes you just want to run out to the Bar and a Harley sportster is quick and simple to jump on, and fun 😎🇺🇸
Do these bikes lend themselves to riding while drunk?
@@dondrap513 guessing that mainly depends on you... (but a live wire in ecomode is ur best bet for a drunk-mobile, or you can even set the throttle lower than eco as a custom setting, no clutch, beefy tires for contact and oversized breaks if u need to stop suddenly, not quite sure why I'm giving real suggestions abt this lol)
@@dondrap513 HDs turn into bar parking lots all by themselves. If you don't like to have a few beers and ride, I suggest not buying a HD LOL.
Not a Harley fan so I hadn’t seen that bike yet but I think it looks really good. Would be better looking with wire spoke wheels.
Back in the late 70s. I went from an XL 175 to a CB 750. The guy who sold it to me said. "It's a bigger bike. Don't let it get away from you". I never did. I had it 4 years. Till someone turned Infront of me.
Great review! Even better scripture! Thank you.
Nice review, Sean! I'm really happy to see Harley working to broaden their product portfolio and revamp what they feel are traditional classics like the Sportster that are desperately in need of revitalization.
They are not "in need of revitalization" of the big twin or sportster line. Non-harley owners say this stupid BS all the time.
@@CaptainRon1913 as you are provably aware, aircooled Harley Davidson’s don’t pass federal emissions laws, so they needed to be revitalized. There’s no way back unfortunately. Plus compared to their competition the previous sportster lines are expensive and under-performing. I have years of time of ownership on dozens of bikes including having access to all of HD’s press bikes, so I feel like my viewpoint is pretty valid. ;)
@@PaulGinAZ68 who cares
I had a Sportster 48 1200 with Vance and Hines short shots, screaming eagle heavy breather and race comp...it was a great bike
Love the video. Thank you
Maybe now I am not capable to buy any bike from you, but someday definitely I’ll buy a bike from buddy.
God Bless you & your family 😇
I bought a bike from Sean right at the start of Covid. Basically I bought it sight unseen (there were pix and a video) but I haven't had any issues with it or SRK Cycles. I'd highly recommend them!
Awesome video... I think I love this bike. I've been riding a 2016 CVO Breakout which has a lot going for it in the cool department but at 81 years old, I may be looking for a lighter bike. Thanks!
"The" Jorma Kaukonen?? Wow. Respect, sir! When I was a kid, I worked at a radio station in upstate NY and hosted a "progressive rock" show. I played the hell out of "Police Dog Blues" from Quah. Glad to hear that you're still riding!
@@ThatBobGuy850 'Tis I TBG... Just got a two hour ride down here in Southeast Ohio. Lucky warm day... sort of. The S rules... the heated grips aren't bad either.
From 1985...
I Harley ever pay attention to anything Harley-Davidson does,
Because Harley-Davidson Harley ever changes anything but the price.
I test rode this bike and it is excellent! Only problem is I'm 6'2 so I look ridiculous on it. Therefore I wouldn't buy one. I've always thought Sportsters are cool bikes. My first Harley was a '09 Nightster
I'm 6ft even and with the forward controls its comfortable for me
@@Adam-bb9rm He didn't say he was uncomfortable. Anyone over 5'10 would look ridiculous riding it. Its a tiny bike.
@@StefanCCCC yep, true mate. Riding position was fine. Just a small bike. Really fun though in sport mode
I went to a dealership to look at one. I was surprised how small it was. It was in the shop for service. It had been dropped and had some scrapes. It had also been ridden pretty hard and put away wet. I don't think it had ever had a bath after it left the dealership, filthy.
Like a monkey fu**ing a football.
The day I turned 16, In 73, had my 71 RD 350 paid for and waiting for me. Drum brakes front and rear, no abs, or anything fancy .Rode in the rain, snow, drunk, tripping on acid, high on some good weed. Wheelie all day, slice turns at speed. Never went down, or had a problem . I guess the new tidepod kids, need all the fancy ,electronic " safety features." Great vid, as always.
Now that right there is funny! I modded a '72 RD 350 back in the day, and was taking down just about everything in it's class at Pocono raceway. It was a rocket, and light and nimble, and you could throw it into a turn until you dragged the footpegs, and it never acted like it wanted to jump out from under you! One of the best 2 stroke street bikes Yamaha ever produced.😉
@@danw1955 One of my all-time favorite bikes was my '72 350 yamaha. I did some really stupid stuff on that bike but God was protecting me. What a fun bike!
I dose off and once you started the motor I thought I was watching the Jetsons 🚀 for a minute lol I own a sportster 883 and it's a blast
Sure, it handled great and was fun in she short, straight shots. But how does it handle and feel on the curves?
I can't wait to hear it with an exhaust. That engine is sick af
It just makes the RevMax sound louder, not better.
They actually sacrificed the HD sound. That's new too.
I was at the harley dealer yesterday and they had one of these in blue on the showroom floor it is an outstanding looking bike this video doesn't do the Bike Justice. If you are considering one You Should absolutely go see it in Person. You wont be disappointed
Its been 8 years since I can afforded to buy a bike, always makes me happy watching u ride all these bikes man.
New rider here... (I am 51) So keeping it safe is priority... Learning the bike in rain mode was a major seller for me. And I like all the new styling because it 'isn't' the oldschool look. I got a 2021 that already had the mid controls added and that too was a bonus. Other than some old stereotypes about the bike, I think the new one is a completely different machine. All positive.
Do yourself a favor, by a honda..
Unless you like oil spots on your floor loading it on trailer and taking it to the dealership AGAIN.
You don't have a trailer. Oops
Yeah. The Rain Mode is a good idea. Enough power, get used to your new bike which is way more powerful than the old bikes. Then you can change the mode when you're ready. And it will be like your bike had a serious tune up!
Something to look forward to.
@@joelombardi5235 that's a stupid uniformed statement. It sucked energy out of me just to read your ignorance.
Good luck. I honestly can't imagine trying to learn anything at an older age that involve the body, like skateboarding or something. Good luck.
Palm Beach Harley is 3 miles from my house and offers free pickup and delivery…. that problem is solved!
I cant believe it only has one front disc
Its not a crotch rocket. It doesn't need it as long as you ride you like you have some common sense. Want to go stupid fast? Just go get a turbo busa or an H2.
@@spartanx169x I am sorry but for the speed ,weight of it and the price , I would expect it
@@spartanx169x 20k out the door for this tiny bike and single front rotor, typical H-D rip off.
You don't know how to properly use a front brake, so one disc is plenty. My 1996 XL1200S has dual disc's but only one piston per caliper.
I drive an 883, I am thinking about getting the new Nightster. I don’t have many options being short. I have to be able to touch the ground. I’m not flat footed on the Nightster and that bothers me. Also not sure on how I feel about the sound.
Suzuki Katana is what i really wish to see a Seanalytics and history lesson on !! keep it up guys, amaziingly entertaining videos !
I like Sportsters and I see many more guys with them than girls. They are good bikes, and have a great aftermarket following.
He really wants the last 1200 off the line he tries the hole time to find good things about the bike. The funny thing is there is always a but when he says something good about. In a time when everyone has to be politically correct about everything it kills what being an individual was all about.
Whole
The only but was the seating position with front pegs. What other ones were there?
The skirtster 1200 for the big Bertha in you
I’m having a stroke reading this comment and the replies
@@alecphillips1445 so it's not just me. 🥲
you kind glossed over the mid controls, so you can move them? what's involved in doing that?
Regarding ride modes, one of the things I remember from my Multistrada, is it's fun to leave it in "rain" mode for a while and just forget about it, then in a couple weeks, switch back to "sport" mode. Bam! Brand new feeling of a race bike!
The Bronx would have been a much needed real new start. The Sportster looks like it always did, you may like it or not. The engine is promising though... the Bronx would have been the first Harley I might have actually bought!
I love my 2011, 1200 sportster, wouldn't take anything for it. At 65 its all i need, not to mention its fun as hell to ride....
For a girls bike it sure saved Harley from being non-existent today
I owned it for several months, computer got destroyed by a light rain shower on a trip because of the super dumb place they put it and the majority of the wiring harness. Was a lot of fun and a super light and powerful bike. The list of negatives for everything from seat comfort, shifting going from piston assisted to mechanical, footpegs, and suspension being only 2.5 inches basically blows out your back anytime you hit a bump. The computer dumbing down the bike when you try to accelerate just from a stop light if you are just trying to keep up with your friends when they go ahead. Also caps the RPMs to 2500 if you're not fully in gear, headache. I am 6 foot, 200lbs so I am sure has to do with why I have issues. I know the sound is a big reason why Harley is...Harley, but oh my god this exhaust sounds awful and no upgrade can change it. When you are riding with other Harley-Davidsons you can not hear your bike and have to constantly look at when to shift, also my sensors for the piston knocking constantly went bad even though everything was good to go. Not saying it's a trash bike, but most Harley people not going to fly. I will say it is the perfect bike for streetbike riders coming over to Harley to move to, but overall would not recommend it for most.
Finally an honest man and first hand review!
Wow Harley’s still suxx in 2022
It is trash and it looks cheap and made of plastic compared to classic Sportsters. Sound? It has no sound, it actually sounds like it's broken when he revs it in video. I would choose 883 or 1,200 Sportster any second over this new tech junk with stupid screen tach/speedo and rider aids, don't care if they're much slower.
@@dr.jillalicecooper2587 And no longer "entry level". I guess the Softail Standard will be Harley's new entry level bike?
Should buy a Scout. The bike Harley ripped off.
My first Harley was a Sportster. Unfortunately it was during the AMF years. The bike in this review is leaps and bounds forward for the Sportster. I mean 121 hp? That's crazy man. Light pull clutch, heated grips and cruise..... nice. Thanks for this video, Sean!
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my first Harley was a 73 Sportster XLH and with help from Buds Cycles in Austin, Tx. it was an awesome bike that gave me several years of mostly trouble free riding
That’s one really nice Honda you got there
Not that anyone will see this because the video is a years old, but what Harley could possibly do to engage a new audience, is to simply state, “Not every Harley is for everybody, but we make a Harley, for anybody”. This idea would absolutely work. It’s a modern take on the old Honda ad. Of people remember, back in the day, the imports made a splash with their, ‘You meet the nicest people on a Honda’ sort of marketing campaign.
Something to note: the "Evo" Sporty engine is not an Evo at all. It's just an updated Ironhead.
A little sad about the Evo air cooled twin being relegated to the history books. But I am glad a grabbed one of the last when I bought a 2021 XL1200 Iron to go with my 2019 Street Glide and my 2020 Husqvarna Svartpilen 701.
I'm more than just a little sad about it as the Evo was pure H D. The 883 and 48 were true entry level bikes and I missed the chance to buy a new one.
What exactly Color of white is your bike if you could tell me because I was at the dealer yesterday and they were telling me that it only comes with pearl white and I really want to get in bright white. Thanks .
Hey bro have your thoughts and opinions changed about this bike? Would be dope if you could do a follow up video after having owned one for over a year
Lol love my 2013 48 will never get raid of it great video as always dude. Not a big fan of these so called new sportsters model.
Traded my '13 '48 for this. Miss the sound of all the Harley's I've owned, but will say this handles as good, if not better ( lighter..) as the'48, and has a 6 speed tranny ( which I really missed on the '48)
Will be looking at this or the scout bobber as my next bike. I’m short 5’6” so the low seat is awesome. Glad they updated it. Boss has a v-rod and love the look of it. Reminds me of this but with better tech. Hopefully when I get ready to buy one they will have a few years of used options.
I caught on to the rain mode setting. In the old days you had to ride in rain to learn how.
I love Sean’s reviews! “Old sportster, 60hp, new one, 121hp. ALMOST double!” LMAO
The Sportster is a bike that I honestly used to scoff at, since I was riding a "man's bike", a Softail. Then I had the chance to hop on a buddy's Sportster, and it was some of the most fun I've had on a motorcycle, including the sportbikes I've ridden. It's nimble, quick, and raw, everything that got me into motorcycling in the first place. Is it _fast?_ No. But it's a lot more fun to ride a slower bike to its full potential than to ride a supersport at a quarter of it's potential. I had more fun banging through all 5 gears on the Sportster than I do riding my KTM Super Duke 1290 R in third gear everywhere.
? Sportster S is plenty fast. Wtf are u talking about. I own an EBR 1190sx which is lighter with the same power a 1290 superduke has and there is nothing slow about a sportster S. And I've owned about 15 different liter bikes.
@@fvgc454ss I didn't say Sportster S, I said Sportster, as in the Evo-powered classic model. Not to mention, they don't make the Sportster S with a 5-speed transmission, which should have been a giveaway. I guess owning 15 different liter bikes didn't improve your reading comprehension.
Yep. That's why I have a wide glide and a sporty. Got both for half the price of this S thing and have loads of fun. I have zero need to be in a hurry.
Hey brother lots of warm grettings from California.
Where do you live it looks like the kind of place superman was raised in.
Real beautiful, green, but most of all reall quiet like??
Hope all is well.
I must say as a part of the new demographic that Harley is trying to reach 14.9 is pretty expensive but I do think like you said you do get alot of bike.
Im torn because I wanted that 1200 for the price and what your getting it could not be beat but now they have this new sporsters that are highway freindly and I dont have to modify the 1200.
Its a real pickle I'm in haha.
Just wanted to say hi and that I really love the channel!!
Not sure about the new triumph rocket. But I had a 2016 triumph rocket. I wonder if this sportster is faster off the line?