This Is Why I HATE My Low Rider ST...

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  • @FXFBS540
    @FXFBS540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My biggest deal with the kickstand is they use a e-clip to hold the bushing in. E-clips are fine for rotational components, but when the kickstand slides into the locked position the clip would bind up and pop off, losing your lower bushing. Happened twice, but since then, I've replaced the pivot pin with a shoulder bolt and locknut. It isnt falling off now.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that has not happened yet, but not the type of thing I would be wanting to field on the side of the road on a long day of miles - Will definitely be looking into your locknut solution, appreciate you sharing man!

    • @FXFBS540
      @FXFBS540 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The good news is the factory pin is installed from the top, so if the clip flies off, just the lower bushing falls out. The pin can't come all the way out. It will partially rise up and rub into the primary. You'll feel it putting the stand down, and the kickstand will seem to over extend forwards and out beyond normal.

  • @2kanchoo
    @2kanchoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I can't for the life of me figure out why no one has cornered the market on kickstands for these. Most everyone I've talked to absolutely detest the jiffy stand like I do. I hate how there's no positive lock when fully extended, and how it scrapes the shit out of my garage floor when it does it's slide out.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah it's wild man, and like I said, it's something no one seems to talk about - I think it's fine if someone is always finding themselves parking their bike on a level surface, but the type of riding we do, that's a rare luxury

    • @myride7216
      @myride7216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My kickstand failed at 200 miles. I was 30 yards away when it failed. 2k damage. Never in my 30 years of riding have never had this happen.

    • @2kanchoo
      @2kanchoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@myride7216 that’s the other thing I’ve seen more than a few people in Facebook groups say they had the jiffy stand bend or snap and drop the bike.

  • @cubicow7561
    @cubicow7561 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Honestly, coming from 10 years of riding Japanese bikes then getting a dyna, the kickstand is one of my favourite parts. I find myself parked off road a lot and on my ninja it was a bit sketchy. But the dyna holds itself up everywhere, it’s great.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree man - Especially for the off road situations, was always just a good piece of mind knowing the bike was planted

  • @SideShowOnTheGo
    @SideShowOnTheGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just got my FXLRST broken in.
    It is an outstanding machine.
    My kickstand though has a bit of a curve and there’s a heck of a lien on it.
    I agree about the battery.

  • @leonyang0524
    @leonyang0524 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had heard about battery problems before I bought my Harley. So I bought a lithium battery. I have never had any power problems since. Sometimes I won't start the engine for half a month. It still starts normally.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've experimented with the lithium option years ago, and I actually found it to not be great for the riding I do within the winter - Maybe they've improved

  • @hansolea
    @hansolea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree with you 100% on all those issues. Specifically the kickstand Jiffy stand. From previously working at a Harley dealer can’t tell you how many times bikes tipped over because either the associate or the customer did not know how to put it on the stand properly.🤘🏽👊🏽

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For real man! It’s just something I don’t have to worry about if I’m on my Dynas or FXR

    • @hansolea
      @hansolea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn I thought taking the battery out of my road. King was a pain in the ass. I’ve done that battery swap on that bike. Damn, what a hassle. But still wanting to add that bike to my garage. By far, the best riding handling bike that Harleys put out since in my opinion, my road king.🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @LJSiar
    @LJSiar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you raise up the rear just like we do with Dynas it will solve most handling and lean angles. When you lift it it will Gangster lean. Battery problems i have not heard of, that sucks. Do you run a drip when parked? A few companies make a daddy long leg seat, at 6'2" i always run those seats. When i ride to Sturgis the extra inch and a half back combined with the Skate bar i run really kicks you back. Great video dude.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I actually changed the rear to Legends which raised it .5 inches, I chose there highest suspension - Might need to go higher than that, because even still, if feels very low to ground for me especially coming from the tall Dyna world

    • @LJSiar
      @LJSiar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn Oh yeah i get ya. I was up 2 inches on my Dyna Low Rider S

  • @dormantmenace
    @dormantmenace 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lift it up a inch. More lean angle for corners. Better kickstand angle.
    I've herd lots of people gripe about the battery. Especially if it doesn't get rode regularly. I've herd they drain batteries. Got to run a tender.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lifting it half an inch with the upgraded suspension, definitely has me wanting for more

  • @sLowRider114.
    @sLowRider114. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To make the battery thing better u can cut the plastic on the positive side so when u take seat off u can get to positive. I did this so if i have to jump my bike its a lot easier. I do have use a screw driver to touch the positive but it definitely beats having take the hole bike apart

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude this is an excellent idea - If I find success with this I will definitely be giving you a shoutout!

    • @sLowRider114.
      @sLowRider114. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn 🤘🏼😎 yea thats what i did i pulled the plastic piece off and cut the part that covers the positive. U still got take off the side cover to get to negative but its way easier. I have use a screw driver from the top to touch the positive and i clip the red to screw driver to touch the positive. Had jump my bike couple times this was big game changer for me. I can now use a jumper pack with out having operate on bike on the road.

  • @marvelharris9540
    @marvelharris9540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agree on the battery.. my only issue with the design of the softail

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Truth - There's got to be a solution

  • @chancehunter3098
    @chancehunter3098 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MY GUY. I just bought one Saturday, because of your videos. Then I see this and my heart drops, got me good. Coming from a 2000 DX this kickstand is heaven compared to my sketchy dyna lean.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude that’s what’s up! Congrats on one of the best HD’s ever made - As for the kickstand situation, really?! I much prefer the kickstand on my 2001 DX to this shorter one on the ST

    • @chancehunter3098
      @chancehunter3098 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @FXDLSBrooklyn for some reason the tilt scares me, but I have a dirt driveway 🤣

  • @vinnyf6635
    @vinnyf6635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The battery location is a total failure on this. The seating position sucks to if your over 6'. Always felt like the mids were to high and to far back. I couldn't take it anymore my hips were killing. Sourced out 18 and up heritage softail floorboards and controls. It was a game changer after that.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really? So is it technically forward controls now from that Heritage or does that have forward-mids, I can't remember

    • @vinnyf6635
      @vinnyf6635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @FXDLSBrooklyn put my legs lower and forward but not stretched out as if I had ST forward controls. It almost has the feel my RP has.

  • @Konigkev
    @Konigkev 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I totally agree. I have already laid my bike down just because of a slight incline. I also agree with the battery access it makes it so terrible plus if you add accessories to it, it is a nightmare to hook up.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, I know a few people who have had the bike tip over due to this

  • @CraigSmith568
    @CraigSmith568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a Heritage and the battery only took about 5 minutes to change.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Year?

    • @feloniousmonk3049
      @feloniousmonk3049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn It had to be pre Milwaukee 8. Even the dealership will bone you for 1/2 hour to do a battery change out.

  • @shaunylee93
    @shaunylee93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually just sold my SDC pro for a saddlemen TOUR step-up seat. pushes you about 3/4" forward compared to the SDC. Also going from a 11" bar and riser height to a 13.5" this winter, hope that positions me where I want to be.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really?! I wouldn't think the touring step up would change the riding position that drasitcally

    • @shaunylee93
      @shaunylee93 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn Yep! worth a shot if you ever get the chance to try one out. I loved the looks of my SDC just didn't love the seating position (this is on a '23 LRST)

  • @slayer04031974
    @slayer04031974 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im actually surprised you don't have a problem with the lack of forward controls for long rides. Plus the frame is too narrow for a true touring seat. Ive seen ppl put Soft tail deluxe touring seats on Slims. And it just doesn't look right. I would avoid leaving the front wheel straight when you are parked. Because of the ability to tip over easy with wind or accidently turning or bumping the bike. Turning the bars to the left to full lock. Will transfer all the weight to the kickstand side.

  • @mrman487
    @mrman487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just bend the kickstand forward. It only took me 5 take-offs with the kickstand down to get it bent enough. Or just use heat and respray it. I can't stand the stock speedo, I would change it out for the Lowrider S because it's perfection.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually don't really mind the speedo anymore, although a dual gauge setup is always my preference

  • @Ten_Mil_Will
    @Ten_Mil_Will 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dare say the hidden battery BS is a deal killer for me (I'm trying to make that SG, RG, LR ST choice). Something u said landed weird tho - I have a 2013 Dyna with mid controls. I sat on the Lowrider ST (never rode it) and thought just the opposite. Compared to my "lounge chair" Dyna, that ST was borderline sportbike. My feet were too close, my knees were too high (and I'm not a tall guy). The bike felt way more upright and less laid back. Seemed fun for some twisteez but didn't seem like an all dayer at all. (Maybe because my Dyna is lowered and I have a Saddleman?)

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude it's so weird, because I have a friend that also feels like he is bunched up seating position-wise as compared to the dyna - Not sure man, for me I just feel way more like I'm sitting back into the bike as opposed to the Dyna/FXR life - The good news, is there are many solutions to this

    • @feloniousmonk3049
      @feloniousmonk3049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Find a 2018- 2021 Sport Glide with forward pegs.

  • @Mikey_556
    @Mikey_556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Same goes for newer touring. I have aftermarket suspension which puts it 1" over so it leans a bit more but yea some of em look like they will just roll away 😂

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Truth - I haven't noticed it on the new touring models, I'll have to pay attention next time I throw a leg over

  • @IAmUltraMAGA
    @IAmUltraMAGA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What tank bag is that? I've been looking for something just like that.

  • @dextersuarez9948
    @dextersuarez9948 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its insane to me that the aftermarket has yet to produce a real fix to the m8 softail kickstand, I’ve put extension blocks on mine, used a relocation kit and it honestly still sucks, if someone could just make a longer kickstand that would be great.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t even know they made a relocation kit, that’s good to know

    • @yaboileeroy3038
      @yaboileeroy3038 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Work at an indie shop, had to run one of these out back today. I didn’t know if it was my square toe work boots or the peg placement, but the kickstand was really awkward to work. Otherwise, that 30 second putt to the back just.., I wanna see how these are at speed. My ‘83 Sportster was so much fun and I wanna upgrade to a Dyna soon, but this… This is a wonderful platform. Also, my Sporty was super recognizable because of its extreme gangster lean, and by that I mean people knew that bike was mine by the lean alone. I’d have to “fix” this if I ever upgrade.

    • @dextersuarez9948
      @dextersuarez9948 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yaboileeroy3038 its an amazing platform, love it, this is just one little thing and in the grand scheme of it, isn’t the worst thing to deal with.

  • @cobumo7735
    @cobumo7735 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What size rear tire did you run for the Commander 3? Michelin doesn’t offer the stock size.

  • @theoldmanflynchmotovlog4846
    @theoldmanflynchmotovlog4846 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently set on a friend's FXR, I'd forgotten how it was the perfect aggressive yet able to tour seating position.
    Of course, even with the Lowrider S/ST being their performance model, theyre building it for comfort for the masses that won't use it as G_D and Arthur Davidson intended.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every time I sit on my FXR the world is just right.

  • @tankermike99
    @tankermike99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    73k miles in the past 3.5 years, including a 3400 mile weekend last month and I've never touched my battery on the road.
    What are you doing that you're messing with your battery that much?

  • @bobbyromo69
    @bobbyromo69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it’s funny i actually felt very crammed on my stomach and had to go to forward controls but everyone is different

  • @DanielDraper-ki4hr
    @DanielDraper-ki4hr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a 2020 Lowrider S, worst kick stand ever. Dropped it twice because of the kickstand. Never had any problems with my 06 Night Train, 09 Fat Bob, 2021 Sport Glide, or my 2023 Heritage.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DanielDraper-ki4hr truth

  • @djking44151
    @djking44151 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That seat looks legit af

  • @paulmears-l7v
    @paulmears-l7v หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your bars are straight you have to turn them completely to the left for the bike to sit properly that’s why the bike locks on the right side

  • @GearHeadMoto
    @GearHeadMoto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have sat one a few different Low Rider ST from having aftermarket bars and seats to test riding a stock one. In stock form these are terrible as far as comfort goes. Even with taller bars and saddleman seat I personally still felt like I was cramped up. Maybe I'm just used to my 93,000 mile Dyna that I've built to fit me.

  • @geeeee8268
    @geeeee8268 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the way pegs setup is a bit funny to me. I am 5.10 and pegs sit waaaay too high. Yes, they further out, but that I actually like. But for my liking pegs should be at least an inch or two lower.

  • @roguecheddar
    @roguecheddar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me and my stunning 2019 Indian Springfield...
    (Munching popcorn)
    More cheese, Gromit!

  • @gregorysoto2513
    @gregorysoto2513 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been on a 09 superglide for years commuting from the Jersey shore to NYC for work…I split lanes, ride on the sidewalk, bus lane, bike lane, if it fits it ships…before I sell the dyna and buy a low rider st can I split lanes on it in the city or is it too wide?

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's what's up! Yeah dude, you can definitely throw this bike around and split lanes in the city - Is it going to do it as well as a bike with a quarter/t-sport fairing? No. But will it do it? Yes, with no problem.

  • @vlj1216
    @vlj1216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What tank bag is that?

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Biltwell Exfil 2 - Love that thing

  • @randytbird6548
    @randytbird6548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe I missed the video, but why did you go with the Leather pro,s mini saddlebags? I run them on my Dyna and love them but im curious as to why.
    Randytbird

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just like having the options, especially for city riding - However, I may be going back to the hard bags at some point, they are also really nice.

  • @JSpool1
    @JSpool1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The battery on the fxxbs is the same shit so it's a harley thing now lol

  • @vincentmcclain9307
    @vincentmcclain9307 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My problem is 27k for the price when you could own a RoadGlide

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're not wrong - I gave that new Road Glide a fantastic review, they really did knock it out of the park with that bike

    • @turtle19dad
      @turtle19dad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like a hell of a dealer markup. They love doing that. I went to a dealer a month or so ago and they wanted $29K for a 23 Heritage!!!! I’ll keep my Honda. Unless I can get to Laidlaws.

  • @Ahhson
    @Ahhson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What gauge mount are you using with those Lucky Dave's bars?

  • @trollingthunder152
    @trollingthunder152 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6 months ago, "how i made my FXLRST perfect!", 4 months later "This is why i hate my FXLRST". for fucks sake.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh you're going to love the next one, stay tuned 🙃

  • @traveller81
    @traveller81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what front turn signals are those? I need to swap out the factory.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Moons MC

    • @traveller81
      @traveller81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn thanks bro!

  • @LilWixxy
    @LilWixxy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's that shift linkage? Did I miss that in other videos?

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s made by Purpose Built Motorcycles - They should have them on the site - Easy install, definitely something you don’t want going on you

    • @LilWixxy
      @LilWixxy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn cheers mate

  • @NYCZ31
    @NYCZ31 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who did you get to install your cam? I'm at the point where its time to do that on my LRS and I live in NYC. I also want to 2-1 exhaust that isn't too loud

    • @feloniousmonk3049
      @feloniousmonk3049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Find a used 2-1 exhaust off of a Sport Glide. Quiet and cheap.

  • @AdventuresOfReuben
    @AdventuresOfReuben 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What tank mount bag is that?

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdventuresOfReuben th-cam.com/video/REfel1Zfw30/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9I-FDRPAQyFxpIN6

  • @wolfganghellmann8541
    @wolfganghellmann8541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You think getting to that battery is a pain in the ass? Have you tried to get to the battery on your Pan America? You have to lay on the floor. You have to ask what the hell Harley is thinking. Ride safe.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah this is good to know man! That Pan America is about to be getting some serious miles in a few weeks ⚡️

  • @ronnytavarez1140
    @ronnytavarez1140 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New seat??

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stay tuned : )

  • @BobbyMiller3
    @BobbyMiller3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lrst Moto camping solution....
    Get a Pan America, too 😂

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, I've already done that #NOREGRETS

    • @BobbyMiller3
      @BobbyMiller3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn Pan America kickstand will have some wonk depending on where the adaptive ride height settled. I just use the center stand 🤘

  • @feloniousmonk3049
    @feloniousmonk3049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I finally had to change out the battery on my 2018 Sport Glide after 6 good years of use, and it was the direct predecessor to the LRS and LRST, and it was a MoFo to get in and out and with that plastic shit all around it holding it into place. Dumbest design ever, Harley Davidson.

  • @gatekeeperoffroad
    @gatekeeperoffroad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I havent noticed that actually....my buddy with a regular soft tail sits straight up... not sure what year you LRST is but my 23' leans like a muther F$#ker.

  • @AdoreYouInAshXI
    @AdoreYouInAshXI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you should say "bike" in your videos more.

  • @JustinRueo
    @JustinRueo หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @gerthilmersen6187
    @gerthilmersen6187 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no problem with the kickstand. Then it is on the kickstand turn the handlebars to right and when left, do it one or too times and the bike go more down too the side.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know if I would go as far to call it a problem as much as I think it would comedown to my preferences as a rider - If you read through the comments, there's a few people who also agree, including a head tech from a HD dealership

  • @ObadiahCorey-u7y
    @ObadiahCorey-u7y 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @Sodiumfreeriding
    @Sodiumfreeriding 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Turn your wheel to the left and the bike settles down to the left. Just a little bit finagling. if you didn’t know that, doubt you need to get to your battery when riding it.

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also twisting the trottle gives the bike power too 🙃

    • @Sodiumfreeriding
      @Sodiumfreeriding 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklyn yup! I have the same bike, it rips. But it also leans over quite far when ya turn the wheel

  • @ChrisVanMiddelkoop
    @ChrisVanMiddelkoop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's just because you have that dumb fairing and bags on there. Lol

    • @FXDLSBrooklyn
      @FXDLSBrooklyn  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Garter snake is the common name for small to medium-sized snakes belonging to the genus Thamnophis in the family Colubridae. They are native to North and Central America, ranging from central Canada in the north to Costa Rica in the south.
      With about 35 recognized species and subspecies, garter snakes are highly variable in appearance; generally, they have large round eyes with rounded pupils, a slender build, keeled scales (appearing ‘raised’), and a pattern of longitudinal stripes that may or may not include spots (although some have no stripes at all). Certain subspecies have stripes of blue, yellow, or red, mixed with black tops and beige-tan underbelly markings. They also vary significantly in total length, from 18 to 51 in (46 to 130 cm).
      With no real consensus on the classification of the species of Thamnophis, disagreements between taxonomists and disputed sources (such as field guides) are common. One area of debate, for example, is whether or not two specific types of snake are separate species, or subspecies of the same. Garter snakes are closely related to the genus Nerodia (water snakes), with some species having been moved back and forth between genera.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXDLSBrooklynperfect reply to non sense comments that keeps the algo happy. I am borrowing this technique

  • @Paul20661
    @Paul20661 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1