See Thru Rotary Engine MAX RPM - 29000 (Wankel Engine)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- I run the see-through rotary engine Full Throttle to see what maximum rpm is that this engine can crank out using a non-contact tachometer to measure the actual RPM number.
Here's a link to the Non-Contact Tachometer that I Used: amzn.to/2qEr5wM
Here's a link to the full episode on this see-through rotary engine: FULL EPISODE of See Through Rotary Engine • See Thru Rotary Engine...
I got curious and decided to measure the accuracy of the non-contact tachometer, is it was extremely accurate.
in the previous video, I stayed at 18000 RPM because that's what the owner's manuals says, I think it was more like 22000 RPM that's my guess.
in the first run in this video I got about 23,000 RPM I saw that was pretty amazing but then I lean out the mixture and I got a whopping 29,000 RPM, I had no idea the Wankel rotary engine can get up to such a high RPM.
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Watch this in 4k whether you have a 4k tv or not, it looks incredibly insane, in a good way. its awesome !
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idling at 7000rpm is healthy
Edit: why are people arguing, jeez
My buddy's Polaris pro x 440 snowmobile will sometimes idle at 6000rpm because of dirty carbs
Hey bro read the 665.7rpm idel .. not 6657
@@kennethschultz6465 actually it is
@@recepgunoglu4058 realy .. What doe's 1 rpm mean .. 6000+ rpm is almost a F1 car in idel..
So No i don't belive IT is
@@kennethschultz6465 F1 cars turn 18000-24000, hell my Ford Focus shifts gears at 6800 RPM I could wholly believe a little snowmobile engine that revs to 18000-20000 would idle at 6k
Nobody:
RX-7 and Civic owners at 3 AM:
but civic doesent have a...
@@demapping shhhhh. let them have their moment
Helium Rudder Speedy Thruster its still loud as hell
Civics with wankels ???XD
Rx8*
The neighbors are probably like: DA HELLS GOIN ON IN THERE!?
WHY YOU PLAYING SUCH BEAUTIFUL MUSIC?!
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Meh they'll be like you replacing you lawn mower with a revolutionary engine!?!?!?!?!?
So many drug related things, GO TO REHAB! Besides, Drugs+motor= THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE! - Phill Swift.
UNLEASH THE HELLSKEETERS
6:20 that almost sounds like air raid siren
Well they are pretty simular
Exept the boom part
Air raid sirens uses: air
Rotory engine uses: burning air
*tactical nuke incoming*
Clarion Eclipse sounds like a 2001-dcr
@Rara Nguyen it does sound a lot like an 8 port, or in between an 8 and 9
This 5cc engine can put out roughly 4hp at its max 48,000 rpm. That's some seriously impressive power density.
Absolutely, considering how much smaller it is than say a 5hp Briggs&Stratton engine
6Twisted figuratively that’s shit but for its size I guess it’s fine
@@arsenicant That's like 800HP per litre.
Arthur Boyarsky like I said for it’s size that’s fine
Damn that would be 4,000 hp naturally aspirated if upscaled to 5.0L
The Brap is strong with this one.
ArthurAlcantara, May the brap be with you...
Best comments here 😂😂
ArthurAlcantara
Me in a human powered formula after tacobell
Won a 400 mph achievement idk how lmao
zeckmon3 zeckee Hitting speeds unseen before just to save the trousers?
Died a little bit when I read this
rpm limiter has left the room
What's a limiter ?🤔
Thats more true than it is funny
@@Jasmine4ty7 limit on how high the engine rpm can get
@@patrickstar5198 i..it was a joke
Damn didn't see that lmao
Rotary engine: How much RPM do you want me to make?
Warped perception: Yes
Yes what?
@@erikd.k That's the joke. He doesn't specify how much he wants, so he wants all of them 😂
It looks impressive, doesn't it? Sadly it isn't. RC car and truck engines can generate double the horsepower with half of the displacement at a 50% higher redline. Seriously, I have a RC truck with a 3.4cc piston engine that redlines at 38000rpm and can pop rolling wheelies.
@@deusexaethera Some of classic combustion very small two stroke engines can do about 60000-70000 rpm
@@galanonim563: I am aware, but I'm speaking from my personal experience, which only goes up to 40,000rpm.
483 revs per second sounds more impressive than 29,000 per minute lol. Crazy.
Lol... Agreed
I agree. But the turbo on my car is much bigger and tops out around 180k rpm. 3000 per second, or 3 per millisecond :)
@@h82fail 180k my ass...
@@recepgunoglu4058 possible but pushing limits BIG time in some turbos. my stock turbo,s max is 130,000 for arguments sake
Porca madonna...
The thing that surprises me is that clear cover didn't become clouded up, become crazed, scorched from the heat ,scuffed up, etc. after 5 seconds the engine ran!
Well I almost talked about that when I said "600 runs" in this video, but I withheld that material science information since It took me over 2 months to develop this particular material, with supplier advice from my NASA engineer friends. This material mix is amazing!, And these tests further prove it's durability. I may reveal what it is in the future but it's not exactly glass but is 98% transparent. Maybe I should send you a slug made out of it !.
Corningware! Lol
Hey, get back to shooting stuff with unusual ammo!
Nitro engines run very cool. If you see a cylinder head temp of 250+ degrees F the engine isn't long for the world. Thats a "loaded" temp. Bench-testing "idling" engines is pointless.
"Glass" is a what more than a thing. Glass doesn't have to be transparent or even translucent.
In a Wankel, the shaft rotates 3x faster than the rotor due to the built-in gear. So the real r.p.m. at rotor level is 10,000.
I noticed that when he did the frame comparison that the rotor only did a 3rd of a rotation. Not too familiar with rotaries so i was a little confused.
But isnt the most important part the crank-RPM?
Engine RPM is the speed of the output shaft. It doesn't matter what happens internally.
Wt abt torque bro
Then might as well say piston engines make no revolutions
2:50 - 3:33 Dudes with RX8's at 1am be like....
Hahahahaha. Me
They are too busy engineswapping them
Lmao
EdyAlbertoMS GT3 this is too good lmao
Especially those Russian dudes with lada engines in them
Attach the shaft to a blender and you'll get that smoothie in no time
Better whatcha your FINGERS too lol
Or you’ll be making finger and blood smoothie.
1l gas lost in making smoothie smoothly
*-What's left of the smoothie
One wrong move and you toast
The most impressive thing so far for me, is that this little thing can take a lot of abuse!
JohnnyQ90 could you use one of these on your next build? Please!
I agree, I almost put the material I use in the video but I cannot disclose yet, my NASA friends sent me the recipe..... Hehe..
Easy there partner, let me at least make my money back, I have 2+ months of r&d in this one. I will be selling some soon.
And they say rotaries are unreliable. Haha jk. It does require some extensive maintenance. Great quality definitely comes at great price.
JohnnyQ90 wasn’t expecting you here ;) love your channel!
just like with firearms, I'm so amazed at how fast combustion type engines operate mechanically with how fast the combustion/explosive process occurs, and so efficiently without more breakages... simply incredible
Thats the good thing about mechanics. The only speed limiting thing there is how strong your material is
i am a mechanic for over 50 years and i am still amazed at the speeds of engines, intake, compression, power, exhaust cycles... the speed change a piston ,, it stops twice and goes the opposite direction each revolution.. 3000 rpm divided by 60 sec =50 revs per second= 100 direction changes per second... amazing
If this is like a 50-100cc , who wouldn't want to see and hear a moped ripping down the street with a rotary
4.9 cc's
Me too
Mufflers?
I want a gokart sounding like that
I thinks its a bit smaller than that but you can also put two of those in a moped. Id love having a rotary in a moped
I'm very glad you did the fps calculation. Thank you for not just straight trusting the meter. Very impressive numbers!
Same, I was wondering what rotating part he was reading off of with the meter. For example, I was thinking it might have been reading 3x what the actual RPM was if it was reading from the rotor and picking up each corner (the triangle piece). It just seemed strange that it idles ad 5-6,000RPM but I guess it does!
You would measure rpms at eccentric shaft, the output of the engine. You would not measure at the rotor, an internal engine component. We dont care how the engine does it we just need to measure the output. But yes the actual rotor itself will always be rotating much slower than the e shaft, by 1/3, one of the designs strengths.
Full Rotary Episode here : th-cam.com/video/pCteBhr4dGY/w-d-xo.html in case you haven't seen it yet .
Warped Perception is the engine use peripheral port?
The sound is a little out of phase
Nitromethane now. we wanna see that casing fail. it will go faster on lighter fuels
Warped Perception try a thermal coating on the combustion area so it doesn't overheat the material
Where can i buy the little rotary engine?
Also, just noticed something interesting. At the end, during the high speed footage, pay attention to the vibration. Even though it might only weigh a FRACTION of a gram, at 29k rpm, that tiny piece of tape on the flywheel is enough to create a visible imbalance. That is friggin insane...
6:14 "vtec kicked in, beast mode activated" 😂
Lol. That's 787B.
True
Vtec on rotary engine?
@@Patutoo is possible, with Variable Intake Hole
@@afoxwithahat7846 🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely love that tiny rotary engine! Wish they were easier to track down. Awesome series of videos in general around it, thanks man.
Thanks , I am currently in the process of manufacturing these for sale, I should have all the kinks worked out very soon.
Awesome! I'll keep an eye out.
Warped Perception next thing you know, there's an exact(almost) copy on AliExpress for $49.99
I was lucky enough to pick up an old _Sachs KM37_ rotary from '64... It took me ages to find!
I'd love to pop down to the local auto parts store and pick up things like Apex/side seals (etc.) for it, but sadly rotaries in general aren't all that popular anymore *:(*
I really want all that to change though!
Brodie Bennett I remember Sachs and all those. Been loving all that since my first tower hobbies catalog. Anyone ever scrap a shindaiwa trimmer for the zenoah engine?
I can feel the apex seal going out already
The apex seal shot itself in the face midway
Gimme this thing right now. 4 Words.
Rotary Powered Barbie Car
Lmao
Just slap a 3dorito on that boi
Mazda RX-7 Barbie Edition🤣🤣
*Remplace the Kid Scale Driveable car's engine for this thing*
XD 2JZ that barbie car next :P
Full throttle with no load, I feel it's pain.
ColinWatters ??
@@Patrick-fz8ee Engines work most efficiently when up against a load.
@@chasemiller7974 i think hes tryna make a bad joke about what he does at 2 am
Lol wtf
@@ethancotton1549 Well that is kind of funny.
I love how it still keeps that rotary sound. So beautiful
I'm enjoying watching your good video.
I support you in Korea.
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I love how it idles at a speed that would instantly pop my 3S. Also, for one fraction of a second at 4:58, it hit PRECISELY 20,000 rpm followed by 22,222 rpm at 5:01. Don't know why, but seeing that was soooo satisfying.
Simply fantastic! Very impressive. Congrats.
Thanks a lot for making taping editing uploading and sharing.
As I've said many times before, I really love what you do and the videos you produce. Damn, you're good!
Needs a small turbo 😬
Yeah - the amount of force behind all that exhaust and the heat. Gobbling up the fuel - could use some more with a little snail though, would def be interesting, heh....
From my own experience. Boost In, Apex Seals Out .
nadalini1 is live to see this thing spit apex seals at with slow motion recording
Twin turbo ;)
Shamie Ramsamuj 😬
Thanks for this illuminating video mate. BTW, your dog in the background is so well behaved.
Thanks for taking the risk just for our pleasure bro. Appreciate a lot.
Love these video's! Great content, video work and production. Nice job.👌🍺😎
Solid video. No BS. Thanks!
Love how you verified your results
4:50 I can see that fuel level dropping surprisingly quick.
Wow hahaha
With great power, comes a great fuel consumption
Yes
that's why those engines absolutely need a turbo compressor, to reuse fuel and burn it again
I am not surprised. A single cylinder 2 troke nitro R/C car engine typically reaches 30,000 RPM. A race spec engine can reach as up to 45,000 RPM. 29,000 RPM from a rotary RC aircraft engine is not as unbelievable as you might think. Impressive but not unbelievable.
Theoretically, Rotary engines have no physical limit to how fast they can rotate. The only limits are things like how much fuel and air you can supply, limits of the metals, friction, etc.
Smaller is the system, smaller is the system's time constant, because of less engaged mass into work, so it should be able to get a faster speed, at least in theory
Rossi,Picco,O.P.S.,MVVS,COX,SuperTiger, And so many more
I am pretty sure the rotary triangle spins 3 times for every one rotation of the crank shaft. This gives it an effective engine rpm of 8,333 rpm. I am pretty sure I heard that on a rotary forum at least.
So that 45,000 rpm engine would read 15,000 rpm's in the car.
That 45k rpm engine isn't a rotary engine though, that would be a 2 stroke piston engine but it would only be ~5cc
Great vid dude. always good content here😀👍👌
That-was absolutely worth watching.
That just simply blows my mind how these types of engine operate, it is so amazing and cool and I wish we saw more of these around in cars but it seems like they are shying away.. amazing video man!! Keep up the awesome work!! You just got a new sub!! 😁
These engines suck compared to reciprocating engines
@@sandervanderkammen9230 yeah I know that these engine have many problems and I wish they could figure out a way to address the issues and fix them but you fix one thing and another comes up, they have huge potential if the reliability issues ever fixed, I know it's a tough job and fuel efficiency is terrible on them
Great video. This is coming from someone who dislikes rotary engine and will never own a car with one but can admire cool things.
I'm also impressed how much this thing takes being essentially passively cooled as you had no fan installed.
I still can't believe you don;t have 1 million subscribers yet. The filming production looks like something from the science or discovery channel.
Thanks!, I am on both of those !!!. I'm working on it .... Just gotta upload more .
Awesome. I watched a few other see-thru engine videos on TH-cam that used the same engine set up you did. Yours had much better lighting, a clearer camera view and using different fuels really helped with the visuals. None of the competition compares to yours. I also think you're the only guy who has done a rotary engine so far. You should try out other engines, maybe a tiny turbine engine, 2-stroke engine, steam engine or turbo/supercharger? Good call plugging that you made more see-thru rotary engines, I bet mechanic schools would be interested in buying those for class demonstrations.
I still can't believe people make comments like "I can't believe you don't have x subscribers yet." Like their arbitrary number is the definition of "success".
DEEREMEYER1
If you ever get more than 36 subscribers (at least 1,000) and over 4,000 minutes of view time you'll see that's exactly how TH-cam defines "success" and the criteria for monetization and exposure.
DoomFinger511 everyone start from 0
That is freaking insane!!! Good on you bro.
Great job on the math. Enjoyed the show. Thank you.
When you zoomed in on the comments, my eyes stuck to "i want this on my bicycle"
Nice proof methods! Good job!
Love how you went on to explain your verifying method. Good vid , just sub'd
Rotary engine with flame forefront is so beautiful....
Gave it a thumb up because of the verification of the result. Really nice done. Like a scientist.
If they ever rebooted mythbusters, I'd hope it would be you, Ave, and Toufledermaus as hosts
Thanks!, I was supposed to get their spot last year but the Facebook freebooters killed my contract (long story), but things happen for a reason. That's the way I see it .
Warped Perception either way, ill still be watching. I just think thatd be great if ya'll try to do something together, even if its just on youtube.
Well MythBusters is off the air on Discovery and they tried to bring it back and make it work on the science channel
Math doesn't lie. Great work. Especially Proofing your results.
Thats fkn awesome! Ive just found this channel and I can't stop watching all the videos lol awesome content and quality bro...cheers from Brazil 🇧🇷
I'd love to see this engine in a go kart 😂
20k plus rpm that's F1 racing there
luketrembay 29000 rpm is almost double what any f1 motor has done
21,000 rpm is the highest F1 rpm I know of, this thing is approaching jet engine idle speeds 😱
Arch Angel WHAT? No lol, jet engines go up to 50.000 rpm
PC Fanboy I was under the impression that they idled at 50,000 and revved higher on takeoff and flight load.
luketrembay ikr, 20k++ rpm with 10 piston vs 1 doritos
This is just beautiful to watch
Rx8 owner
This is just beautiful to watch!
V8 Chevy owner.
This is just beautiful to watch!
Owner that would have like 1000 cars in his garage but is that poor to only afford one MR2 ZZW30 that soaks his all free budget. xD
This guy is a madman. Thumbs up.
Very nice ad. I want this tachometer now even though I have no use for it.
You know it's good when it starts on the first pull.
i love how it sounds exactly like a 767b
Agreed, I was thinking the same thing
787b
@@anthonymartin6352 somewhat not close to a 787-B
*Sounds more like a weedwacker than a 767b.*
*Several companies marketed Wankel powered yard equipment but they were all commercial failures.*
Incredible, one thing that surprised me was the shape of the combustion chamber⚠️😯
Even the tiny ones sound so good!
your videos are so damn good.
Wow this is great , also for educational purposes 👍
Great, great job! 8:50 "Numbers don't lie" - I like that!
Outstanding what a video good work on the see-through Wankel
Rotary fans be like : I WANT ONE!!!
bravo 099 you're not wrong haha
bravo 099 rotary fans be like "we own one"
I'll stick to my LS
Just to have at home to listen to when not racing 🏁😵
Need*
nice video,,, here for the support
Loved your video.greeting from Argentina
Very very amazing, bro...
Even if I would rather want to see the enging flying in a model aircraft I must say: Great footage and great video.
damn that rotary sounds good
Pretty darn impressive. You gotta thicken that plexi and turbo that little soldier! 🤪
Heck that got me subscribed !
When he started up his Merc and it said visit workshop I was dead.😂😂
Yup, "Get in The Car,Turn The Key,Start The Engine (Engine:Oww Something is not normal with me okay ECU!!!! Visit Workshop Notice Please ECU:Got Ya)Right Away 'Visit Workshop'😂😂"
I LOVES the moment when it comes from "Grinder" mode back to idle
Btw you can reach 29k RPM with your Merc too, just push to the max into 6th and then shift in 1st
I think it will break...
@@77xyu94 well i think it will break
@@recepgunoglu4058 sorry for grammar mistake...
@Event Horizon yes i really sorry for that
It's amazing how the edges of where the rotor spins doesn't like wear down instantly
I think it sounds really cool
At 29k, thats 5.5hp for every ft/lb
Dave Micolichek I figure about 100ft/lb per liter on 2 strokes and would guess the wankle is midway between that and a 4 stroke- maybe 80? Hard to tell, but if I could pour 1oz in that wankle, that'd be 30cc or .03x80ft/lb or 2.4 ft/lb peak I'd guess around 12k?, perhaps 2ft/lb at 16k? So maybe about 6hp? Just my ball park guess with no more than looking at the video with the most basic data.
That engine appears to be a O.S. Engines 49-PI (0.3CU / 4.91CC) based upon size in relation to hands and it's RPM achieved. The 49-PI is reported as outputting 934 watts / 1.24 HP at 17,000 rpm and torque is about 0.37 ft/lbs. So @ 29K rpm it would be outputting ~1500 watts / ~2 HP.
All the other engines I've seen are 20CC or larger have thinner fins and lower rpms.
Cerberus984 I thought it was 6 times that-whoops. I estimated 2ft/lbs at peak hp, you say .37ft/lb. So, you think peak torque is at peak rpm? Now that I have displacement, I'd figure 1/6 my up guess- 1hp at ~16krpm
@Jimmy's Tractor
I simply used a 2 input toggle calculator that asks for rpm + torque or rpm + hp then solves for other. Then sourced my data from Barnard Microsystems which displays a vast variety of RC engines. The fins are equally thick on the OS engine and has same amount of end plate bolts. Although, the first two fins right of the exhaust port differ from the video I saw to the picture from my data source there were two different generations of that motor.
The next step up (different brand) is a 20cc Nitto NR-20EP is significantly larger from the videos I've seen people holding it in their hand or on a bench top.
Cerberus984 cool, looks good. I just guessed.
Damnit WP, you're making it very difficult to do my work with these videos.
awesome job 👍🏼
E55 AMG?? You really know about 🚘!! Nice video
You can try to use a sound analyzer too, for speed measuring
I seem to recall he did that once, using Audacity.
That's what I was thinking. 483 revs per second with 3(?) exhaust pulse per revolution should give a note at about 1449Hz. I'm not any kind of musician but that seems to match the note on the video quite well.
Actualy, it's only 483 exhaust pulses,. The rotor runs at a 1 to 3 ratio...
"Dorito! Dorito, Dorito!"
Hmmmm....
So you just translated the "Brap Brap Brap" sound.
Brilliant Video
Amazing, I've heared of Wankel engines but never known what it meant . Thanks .
Usar lâmpada com luz estroboscópica vai facilitar ainda mais as análises. Sugeriria ainda adiantar o ponto de ignição, que talvez devesse ser móvel, para atuar em rotações ainda maiores. Além disso imagine aproveitar a combustão numa turbina de jato reator, e injeção de água, onde o Hidrogênio aumentará também o torque.
That is a really trick stand that you taped the fuel tank to. LOL
Thanks, good info
I haven't watched this channel in a long time.
Anyone know the music used from 6:02-6:23? I tried a few music recognition sites with no hits. The music along with that transition into the slow motion footage of the fuel being injected into the rotor housing and the engine screaming to 27k RPM was goosebump inducing. Good freaking job.
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That German Shepherd in the back tho 💕
Time?
Its an alsation
Wow that’s a fast little engine
Thanks, nice video
I don't know about the Wankel, but my 12CZ-R, with high compression head, turns 32k rpm and produces 0.52hp. It takes my Sandmaster 10 buggy up to 50+mph on 25% nitro fuel. Your Wankel, however, isn't supposed to spin that fast, as it's designed to turn a prop. And, the tips of the blades aren't supposed to go supersonic.
*Reciprocating engines easily outperform this little 1.2 hp Wankel engine... which is why they were discontinued.*
doktorbimmer isn’t it 4-5hp
This makes 5hp
doktorbimmer
_Bitch prove it. Give me links to_ *ACTUAL* _evidence of that. Because I feel that if any piston engine made that much power in the same displacement, they (the makers) would be fucking rich by now. But I clearly haven’t heard of such a thing._
_I’m using italics since you’re using bold._
@@thejay8963 While it's good to always ask for evidence and proof, I would highly suggest if you want to start a debate/argument or a call for evidence, etc. that the very first word in your sentence isn't an ad-hominem attack against the other person. It's uncalled for, really. He is simply just saying what he believes to be true. Also, the debate in question isn't really too important - this isn't a topic that shatters one's whole life preception in 1 argument like many Hillary voting identity politics communists love to constantly pose...
That's cool considering my mom's rainbow vacuum cleaner says MAX..RPM is. 30,000. Truly amazing that rotary engine badass
Shoenice does pretty interesting stuff today!
I always wondered why the rotary made a cool sound and now I know why
Can we make one for my 50cc scooter ...
As flawed as the rotary engine is, I still respect it and what it can do. Amazing videos, thank you for this!!
So you never had one, right?)
God I love that sound