This is by far the best thorough feature explanation in full detail between all the different models. Great job! This is what I been looking for. Best review ever! Thank you for doing such a great review.
Perfect battery banks I own a 5 year old Omnicharge 20 and 2 Omnicharge 20+ and several other battery banks and they keep going and charge faster than any other!
Great review. You clearly know your stuff and have used these devices extensively. I'm ordering the 20C - exactly what I'm looking for to charge my laptop whilst on the move.
Thank you for your comment! They’re excellent units and have been incredibly useful. I hope they work well for you when you’re on the go! Thanks for stopping by.
Thank you. Nice review. I will definitely check out the OMNI OFF GRID. Glad you provided all the details. That is what gives you the info to make a good buying decision.
Thank you! So glad we could help you in choosing the right powerbank for the job 😊 thanks for stopping by and taking the time to leave us such a nice comment!
Might be a bit of a stretch but I find that the rubber casing on the omnicharge ultimate is more than enough to keep the battery plugged in tightly. The indentations on the model itself allow the rubber to keep the battery securely locked in. So give or take leaving the battery unscrewed for an easy swap isnt a horrible idea.
It is a tight fit, I’ll give it that. Maybe I’m just paranoid, but I like to know it’s locked in place securely when I’m out on shoots. It only takes one accident! But 6x screws is certainly overkill 😅 If they’d created some sort of quick release latch/button that would have made it truly hot swappable. It’s a bit of a process at the moment and can’t exactly be done on the fly!
Feedback: as a bit longer than I would have enjoyed. I did watch the whole segment though. BIG A+ Positive on the script and knowledge! Understanding of the brand and product is what I came here for and it helped me in discerning which one to pick because I will say that was a bit confusing from just Amazon. I recommend that each battery had its own dedicated video.
Thanks for the feedback Jack, I appreciate you taking the time. If I were to do it over again, I would have done what you suggested and broken it up into a video per model. You live and learn! 🙏🏼
Great video, thank you! I just got the new iPad Pro M4 1TB. I need a portable power bank/hub for transferring and backing up 4K scuba diving footage. I am thinking of getting the 20c model. They also have the 40c model that is somewhat large in size. What is your recommendation? Cheers
Ohhh, good question. To be honest I haven’t tested the hub function with either model transferring directly to an iOS device, so I’m not 100% on their compatibility. How are you planning on transferring your data from the camera to the iPad? Is it via USB on the camera or via SD card (etc). Some further details would help. Of the two, the omni 40C+ is more likely to be compatible, as it’s much newer with more up-to-date specs. It’s better and more versatile all round in my opinion, if you’re not planning on flying with it. The manual doesn’t give a clear answer, so let me see if I can replicate your setup over the next few days with our (standard) iPad to see if it works. Here’s a review I did recently on the 40C+ if you’re keen to learn more: th-cam.com/video/Bkletijln0Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TtLfaMJrI02198-_
Thanks so much for your prompt response. Your video on 40c+ was also great!👌 Yes, I usually fly for scuba diving purposes when I need to use a hub/power bank and thus, 40c+ model won’t work for me. I have a power bank and a hub now (i.e., 2 separate devices) and having both of them in one device would be a great option. 👍 I will be transferring 4K video files from my camera SD card to an external SSD drive and my iPad Pro itself for back up and viewing purposes. I also use the hub for transferring files between different hard drives through a windows laptop. I am concerned with iOS compatibility and transfer speed of 20c since it is an older model. I wonder if Omni is coming up with a new version of 20c given the current model was released in 2018 or 2019. Cheers
Curious how the Omnicharge powerbanks compare to the PowerBen products. These are the two different products that I'm currently considering for a backpackable power bank, for my phone, laptop, Steam Deck, Switch, and my other devices.
You can get the 20+ direct from omnicharges website (pending availability). I think you can also get them from Amazon au. We got ours through the Kickstarter campaign.
Good review, only thing is: 1) Wish you'd gone through a complicated set-up, as in through charging with menu settings on one of the units 2) The Omni 20+ does have HVDC, but the Ultimate does not have HVDC (you stated it did). I talked to the team, they said it was unnecessary because the Omni 20 has a 'modified square wave' whereas the Ultimate is a 'pure sine wave'. This is a shame, because not only is it much more efficient (more battery life), but the AC on the Ultimate is extremely noisy (RF), so much so I can't power many things with it without shutdowns (blackmagic camera for instance). There are many videos on youtube demonstrating this.
Hi James, Thank you for your insights, I was thinking of doing a follow up to this video with the batteries in use in a practical setting, so I may do as you suggested. Also thank you for catching that correction Re: the HVDC. That was a mistake on my part.
@@CreativePathFilms Great, and thanks for replying to all the comments on your videos. With the AC, there isn't too much noise on the actual line itself (if you plug an oscilloscope into the terminals), but if there is a USB cable placed anywhere near it, it will pick up huge interference. So when I plug it into my BMPCC 6k, it powers the camera fine, but the SSD drive immediately disconnects and won't reconnect. There's a video on youtube of someone trying to power their TV with it, but it can't lock on to any channels when powered by the ultimate. Extra bonus points if you try shielding it in aluminium foil tape or using cables with a ferrite coil on the end of them (greatly reduces interference)
I'm glad I made a good investment in these. I do artwork at a cafe frequently with my ipad. But I hate having to station myself to the nearest inconvienently placed outlets, which are often occupied by someone else with the same idea. And I'll be there for hours, so it's good to have a good battery bank to keep it as caffinated as I am.
Haha, this is awesome!! They’re so handy. I literally have devices running on them daily. And aren’t cafes are the best for creative work? Don’t know what it is. The white noise maybe? Good coffee definitely is a factor 🤣
It's got protective circuitry, so likely it will give you an over-voltage warning, then shut down the device. But using any charging method that exceeds the recommended input voltage isn't the best idea and may ultimately damage the device.
Not manually, it automatically detects the appropriate USB-C protocol from the device it’s connected to. If you’re after a battery that can do high powered USB-C and had DC In/out capability, checkout my review on the omni 40C+. It’s a beast. th-cam.com/video/Bkletijln0Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GMdKkncD33Hk1RUv
I just wish the charger was built-in, so you could plug the OminCharges directly into an outlet for charging. That would also mean, you wouldn't have to bring a laptop power supply along for extended trips.
I know what you mean, the charger for the Omni ultimate in particular is quite cumbersome. The Omni 20 charger is fairly compact, which I like. That’s why I appreciate that they can all be charged via USB-C, which opens up a number of options with chargers I would be taking anyway. In a pinch if I have to pack really light, I’ve gotten away with charging them off a regular 5v phone charger and a USB-A to USB-C cable. It takes a lot longer to charge, but it works and it keeps the profile way down.
Oh no! Sorry to cause your ears discomfort! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. We’ll take that on board. In fact I will take it upstairs and chastise our editor personally. Sometime I think he just doesn’t like my voice... 😂 In all seriousness, we’ll knock it back a touch. Have a great day!
what's the difference between modified sine wave and pure sine wave. These power banks have different AC sine waves and you don't mention this after 25min.
Hi George, Yes you're correct, it was something that was missed when I was putting this video together, so that's on me for not being aware of that distinction between the models at the time. That being said, I believe that it wasn't publicised in the specs that the omni 20's use a modified sine wave until the most recent website update. Their current product manual still omits this distinction. It was actually a viewer who got in contact Omnicharge directly, who first brought this difference to my attention. To answer your question, pure sine wave is theoretically better overall and is more appropriate for highly sensitive electronics. That being said, it has been reported that the Omni Ultimate has quite a "noisy" inverter that produces a fair amount of electronic interference, which can create some issues in some circumstances. Most notably when trying to simultaneously use the AC port with either the USB-A or USB-C ports, it has been reported that the electrical interference from the inverter can cause usability issues. Omnicharge even added a note about this in their latest manual. I don't currently have access to an EMF meter, nor have I tested this practically to determine how limiting the interference is. Practically, I have found us using the omni 20's more frequently than the ultimate for AC use. But this mostly due to the the size and weight of the units and partly due to the physical limitations of the recessed EU port on the 240v model of the ultimate. To date, I have not encountered any issues with using the modified sine wave of the Omni 20's. We've used their AC port to power small lighting fixtures, sound recorders, laptops (both via the AC port with a power brick, as well as via the DC barrel directly), battery chargers, camping equipment and various other devices with no issues to date. I found this link useful, if you would like to learn more. www.wiltronics.com.au/wiltronics-knowledge-base/pure-vs-modified-sine-wave-inverter-which-should-you-buy/#:~:text=In%20pure%20sine%20wave%20inverters,switches%20from%20positive%20to%20negative.&text=If%20there%20isn't%20an,can%20use%20a%20modified%20inverter. I may end up doing more research into this topic and even do a video on it down the line. Thanks for your comment!
I just double checked the spec sheets in case they updated something since this video was published. The Omni 20+ is indeed 60w max. It’s the omni 20-C+ that has the 100w USB-C port. This is a different model where they subbed out the AC port for the 100w USB-C port. Hope that helps!
You definitely could! I would just worry if the battery connection would remain secure and reliable without the battery being screwed in place. That would be my only reservation.
I would presume, only if can limit or control the input wattage in some way. Without knowing the spec of the panel, it’s hard to say. If it had usb-c PD output, then possibly. If it’s just providing unregulated 60w DC, then I would say no, that’ll be too much input for the battery to be able to accept and you may damage the battery or cause it to shutoff the charging by inputting too much current.
Great question, the omni ultimate should be theoretically capable of drawing both the 25w (super charge v1) and 45w (v2.0) as it can draw up to a maximum of 60w (20v/3A). However, I can’t confirm if the ultimate supports PPS, which is required for the 45w charging to work. I can’t find any further info on this. So if you’re happy with 25w charging, you should be fine (9v3a is a standard PD profile), but 45w charging I can’t confirm. I don’t have any Samsung phones, so I can’t give you an absolutely definitive answer. I’d suggest doing a bit more research if you need 45w before committing. 😊 Hope that helps!
Have you experienced noise, coming from the AC charging port when in use? It sounds like static, electrical noise. It doesn't sound safe for sensitive electronics. Arching isn't good for any electronics
Good question, yes we have. I am not an electrical engineer, but from my research it appears to be quite common for a DC inverters to produce a noise, as they generate “harmonics” as a byproduct when when creating the sine wave AC. We’ve never encountered any observable electrical issues from using the AC port, but the noise can be annoying and a bit unpleasant! I can confirm the hum/noise is present on all the AC omnicharge models we have, as well as some other DC battery inverters we have which are designed for our Einstein photography flash units. These are built for purpose and still produce the same noise. I hope that helps reassure you somewhat.
Do you know if once you select a custom variable DC output if that setting is saved (i.e 15.6v @ 7A), or will that have to be adjusted each time the Omni Ultimate is powered on ?
Hi Chewash :) The Omni Ultimate has 4 programmable DC values that it will save and store, so yes you can setup multiple volt/amp values and it will save each of them. Note that the maximum amperage is reduced the higher your voltage is set, to keep it within the max 150w range. The omni 20’s will remember your last used setting when you turn on DC and a prompt will appear asking you if you want to use that same setting again.
Hi! Thanks for the question :) The 20+ has a slightly lower mah rating (20000) plus has the addition of 10w wireless charging and a (from memory 60w) USB-C port next to the DC port. Hope that helps!
Yeah it’s a tricky one, there’s very little literature on the solar charging capabilities. Once upon a time omnicharge produced their own portable 20w solar panels for charging the omni 20’s on the go. I think they’ve been discontinued for a while though. The omnicharge units are pretty forgiving with their input voltages, as long as you don’t exceed the maximums. So I would assume that as long as the panel offers a dc input of no greater than 90w (5-25v up to 4.5a) it should be fine with the unit. From memory, I think they advertised that they were compatible with a range of panels. This was years ago mind you. However, I don’t like making assumptions when it comes to electronics, so I’ve put in a support ticket posing some questions. If you have anything specific you’d like me to ask, please let me know :) Edit: I though I should mention I don’t own any portable panels and don’t have any first hand experience with solar charging the units.
@@CreativePathFilms Thank u for ur kind reply! I'm a newbie when it comes to power banks, power stations and solar panels. My aim is to somehow have a backup if the world or my country would have power shortages, this is why I'm researching and willing to have some sort of ways for powering - charging my Macbook Pros, PC Laptops, iPhones and iPads.. It seems like when it comes to power stations and solar panels the brand called Jackery has a high reputation. Heard of them?
Yeah, I totally get that! I’ve heard of jackery, they seem to be the omnicharges main competitor. I haven’t worked with any of their battery solutions so can’t really speak about them with any sort of first hand experience.
@@FatihVideographer So Omnicharge support referred me to the following support article: support.omnicharge.co/hc/en-us/articles/115006071268?input_string=solar+charging+and+the+o It looks like any portable solar panels that supply less than the maximum input wattage can be used the charge the ultimate via the DC barrel. If the panel you buy only has a USB output port, they sell a seperate USB charging cable accessory that you can use to charge the battery. Though it looks like panels with an unregulated DC output port will be the most efficient option. Hope that's the answer you were looking for!
with the 12800 model, is it possible to be charging the powerbank using USBC and at the same time charging 2 devices? one via wireless and one with a USBA?
Good question, I’m not sure! I know it can definitely do one or the other, but I’m not sure if it can do both. Let me look into that for you and I’ll come back to you.
Okay, I can confirm that yes, it can pass-through charge to the wireless charging pad and the usb-a port simultaneously while charging the battery via USB-C.
@@CreativePathFilms I have 12800 mHa do I use the QC 3.0 output to power my Mission Engineering 529 which is 5volt converter that puts out 9 volt output for my guitar pedals.
Sorry Jerry, that one’s a little too niche and I’m not familiar with that converter. I couldn’t say how the battery will respond in that setup if you’re converting the 5v to a higher voltage.
Thank you! The omni 20+ is probably the best bet, as the omni ultimate has a recessed c-type socket I believe, so you’d probably need an adapter or different plug end. You can also buy DC cables to pair with specific laptop models. You can then dial in your specific laptop voltage and bypass the AC all together. Don’t know if they do one for dell laptops, but it’s worth a poke around their website to have a look at the options, and do some further research to make sure you get the one that fits your specific needs. Hope that helps!
Hi, @Creative Path Film, thanks for such a wonderful review but I just wanted to know more about that OMNI 12800 Mah powerbank , does it charge Ipad faster and how many times can I charge iPad with it?
Good Question! You'll get approximately 2 charges out that model for an iPad. I'll see if I can dig out my iPad charger and see if I can compare charging rates for you to give you an idea. Let me get back to you ~Dave
@@shaimazaher9342 usb-c has the following profiles: 5v/3a, 9v/3a, 12v/3a, 15v/3a, 20v/3a (60w max) Usb-a quick charge 3.0 has the following: 5v/2.4a, 9v2a, 12v/1.5a. Hope that helps!
Okay, so I finally found our OG apple usb-c charger for our 2021 iPad. I recharged the iPads battery by 10% using each method (in this order) and here were my findings. The charger was the fastest method of recharging the iPad by a margin. Charger: 26 minutes Omni mobile (usb-a quick charge): 41.5 minutes Omni mobile (usb-c PD): 1h 11 minutes The fact that it was faster to charge with usb a as opposed to usb c really surprised me! So overall the charger is faster than the battery.
Hey, thanks for the question! The omni mobile series and the omni 20-C via usb-c, the omni 20+ via either USB-C or a 12v 5.5x2.1 DC barrel port charger (not included). The omni ultimate via USB-C or the 12v 5.5x2.5 DC barrel port. Hope that helps!
I believe so. I do not have a 96w charger with me at the moment as I am travelling, but it looks like 3 of the chargers power profiles fall under the 45w input maximum. We regularly use a 60w Apple charger for ours with no issue, as it also has lower wattage PD power profiles, so you should be fine. But please don’t take my word for it, check the output specs on your charger and double check.
I haven’t been able to find an Australian retailer at this stage. I’ve always bought them from the crowdfunding campaigns. They are available on the omnicharge US website, as well as Amazon.
No worries! It’s an MR30 style DC port for the variable DC output. The unit includes an MR30 - 5.5 x 2.1mm DC barrel adapter, which is the most common DC port size.
Yes you can, I have done so when travelling! Haha. You can use the AC outlet to charge it. From memory it automatically shut off AC once it reached full charge.
I have the 20+ We use it camping for charging phones and cameras, as well as powering up a laptop to drop photos, and man, I absolutely love it. I will likely purchase an ultimate version soon, so I can utilize interchangeable batteries
Yes you are correct. I perhaps should have been more specific in the video. From my understanding (and it can vary airline to airline, country to country) I believe you can fly up to 160wh if you apply for and can gain airline approval for the battery. In terms of being able to walk onto a plane without having to go through that process and gain the necessary paperwork, most airlines restrict passengers to 100wh or under. At least this is the case in Australia and the US.
At 142Wh generally no. The standard limit for batteries with airline travel is generally under 100wh. In Australia you can apply to get approval for devices up to 160wh but it’s a bit of a process. So it may be possible, but it’s going to be a pain. If you want something you can travel with pain-free, the omni 20 series are the ones to look at. They come in at 73wh. But with any battery, it’s always best to check your specific airlines policies before travelling.
Yes it would be nice to see some larger capacities, the ultimate is good at 38,400 but it’s time for an upgrade or a new model now that they’ve been out for several years now.
I wouldn't recommend this product I've been having problems getting a full change I have contacted them because it's still under warranty and I keep getting a run around with this Company I will never buy from them again. I'm calling you Credit card company to get my money back. I gave them a chance do replace the unit. I did everything they asked me to do even sent photos and videos. This unit is expensive and I should get what i paid for it shouldn't take 24 hours to fully charge and still I wouldn't get fully charged the Highest it would go would be 97%. Other than that the unit works fine but charging is a big problem. And it's not made in the USA it's a waste of money
Sorry to hear you’ve had a bad experience with your unit Rocky, I haven’t had that problem with any of my units. Silly question, but are you using a low voltage charger? Hope you get the resolution you’re looking for.
Well, nothing’s perfect, but it has excellent circuitry under the hood. So you’re about as protected as you can get. It can still damage devices if you say, set the incorrect DC voltage for the device, but the unit gives you a warning to ensure you check first! They have a power station unit now called the omni offgrid. The things a tank! Hoping to get my hands on one soon.
@@CreativePathFilms Thanks you are perfect at these tech reviews, I hope to see much more. I wouldn't mind making you my number one tech reviewer. Cheers
Watched the whole video. I wondering when the review starts. I don't like how you use the word "review" in your title, in this context it is misleading to put it mildly. This, in fact was not a review, but a fluff unpaid (yeah right) overview of Omni's complete line of products. You didn't test the actual capacity against their advertised capacity. You didn't state anything that could be improved or anything remotely negative or criticizing at all. You didn't state how this product stacks up to other product compared to capacities. All of this was just marketing fluff. This was not a review. I wish you would change your title
Sorry to disappoint and that the video didn’t live up to yours expectations! They’re all valid points that you’ve made, there are lots of ways this video could have been better. It was one of our first reviews so, I’ve learnt a lot since then. I think we had about 100 subscribers at the time, so omnicharge definitely paid us the big bucks for this one!! 🤣 Please bare in mind, this isn’t a tech review channel, and the reviews/overviews I do are predominantly products that I use day to day in our work. Ones that I’m excited about, and that I feel could be valuable to our audience. We don’t get sent any random products or anything like that. This also isn’t what we do for a living. So at the end of the day I’m just another smuck on the internet trying to find his way in the world. I hope your day gets better from here 😊
@@CreativePathFilms To be fair. your production quality is actually amazing, and everything you did have written was comprehensive and articulate. I believe that I took my frustration out on you when you didnt really deserve it. You see I have been having repeated black outs, and so I find my self in another blackout. Now I am on the market for a battery solution, and have prior knowledge of battery bank manufacturers lying about their actual capacity. So I was really seeking that information over most other information. And so when I didnt get that information, I got upset with you. It was not fair, and for that I am sorry. In truth, it was genuinely a great video about products a man has used for years, of which he has only great experiences from them. That is why there were no real negatives, because, in your use cases, you didnt encounter any. I really do hope you accept my apology.
@@jeffreymelton2200 Thank you, I very much appreciate that you took the time to write this, both as a creator and a human. It means a lot. I can can absolutely empathise with how incredibly frustrating it must be to be subject to constant blackouts. I'm also very aware of how manufacturers tend to "fudge things" a bit, to cut corners and increase sales. It happens in our industry all the time, particularly with the lighting gear we use. It can be very frustrating. I accept your apology and sincerely hope your day gets better, and that you find the solution that you are looking for.
This is by far the best thorough feature explanation in full detail between all the different models. Great job! This is what I been looking for. Best review ever! Thank you for doing such a great review.
And thank you for taking the time to leave such a nice comment Ted! You’ve absolutely made my day 😊 ~Dave
i bought the omni 20 back in 2017, and it still works excellent. im thinking of getting the ultimate, definitely well worth the cash!!!!!
That’s been my experience with ours as well! They’ve certainly lasted for us.
Perfect battery banks I own a 5 year old Omnicharge 20 and 2 Omnicharge 20+ and several other battery banks and they keep going and charge faster than any other!
Thanks for sharing your experience! They’re the best I’ve used. Our OG Omni 20’s are still going strong as well, also 5 years on.
~Dave
Best Omnicharge vid yet. Kudos and thank you 👏🏻
Thank you very much!
~ David
Best detailed review video I’ve seen in a while!
Thank you very much!
Great review. You clearly know your stuff and have used these devices extensively. I'm ordering the 20C - exactly what I'm looking for to charge my laptop whilst on the move.
Thank you for your comment! They’re excellent units and have been incredibly useful. I hope they work well for you when you’re on the go! Thanks for stopping by.
Thank you. Nice review. I will definitely check out the OMNI OFF GRID. Glad you provided all the details. That is what gives you the info to make a good buying decision.
Thank you! So glad we could help you in choosing the right powerbank for the job 😊 thanks for stopping by and taking the time to leave us such a nice comment!
Might be a bit of a stretch but I find that the rubber casing on the omnicharge ultimate is more than enough to keep the battery plugged in tightly. The indentations on the model itself allow the rubber to keep the battery securely locked in. So give or take leaving the battery unscrewed for an easy swap isnt a horrible idea.
It is a tight fit, I’ll give it that.
Maybe I’m just paranoid, but I like to know it’s locked in place securely when I’m out on shoots. It only takes one accident!
But 6x screws is certainly overkill 😅
If they’d created some sort of quick release latch/button that would have made it truly hot swappable. It’s a bit of a process at the moment and can’t exactly be done on the fly!
Feedback: as a bit longer than I would have enjoyed. I did watch the whole segment though. BIG A+ Positive on the script and knowledge! Understanding of the brand and product is what I came here for and it helped me in discerning which one to pick because I will say that was a bit confusing from just Amazon. I recommend that each battery had its own dedicated video.
Thanks for the feedback Jack, I appreciate you taking the time. If I were to do it over again, I would have done what you suggested and broken it up into a video per model. You live and learn! 🙏🏼
Great video, thank you! I just got the new iPad Pro M4 1TB. I need a portable power bank/hub for transferring and backing up 4K scuba diving footage. I am thinking of getting the 20c model. They also have the 40c model that is somewhat large in size. What is your recommendation?
Cheers
Ohhh, good question. To be honest I haven’t tested the hub function with either model transferring directly to an iOS device, so I’m not 100% on their compatibility. How are you planning on transferring your data from the camera to the iPad? Is it via USB on the camera or via SD card (etc). Some further details would help.
Of the two, the omni 40C+ is more likely to be compatible, as it’s much newer with more up-to-date specs. It’s better and more versatile all round in my opinion, if you’re not planning on flying with it.
The manual doesn’t give a clear answer, so let me see if I can replicate your setup over the next few days with our (standard) iPad to see if it works.
Here’s a review I did recently on the 40C+ if you’re keen to learn more:
th-cam.com/video/Bkletijln0Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TtLfaMJrI02198-_
Thanks so much for your prompt response. Your video on 40c+ was also great!👌
Yes, I usually fly for scuba diving purposes when I need to use a hub/power bank and thus, 40c+ model won’t work for me.
I have a power bank and a hub now (i.e., 2 separate devices) and having both of them in one device would be a great option. 👍
I will be transferring 4K video files from my camera SD card to an external SSD drive and my iPad Pro itself for back up and viewing purposes. I also use the hub for transferring files between different hard drives through a windows laptop.
I am concerned with iOS compatibility and transfer speed of 20c since it is an older model. I wonder if Omni is coming up with a new version of 20c given the current model was released in 2018 or 2019.
Cheers
Curious how the Omnicharge powerbanks compare to the PowerBen products. These are the two different products that I'm currently considering for a backpackable power bank, for my phone, laptop, Steam Deck, Switch, and my other devices.
I haven’t worked with the powerben products, but I’d be curious to learn more.
@creative path films, where did you get your Omnicharge 20+ in Australia? Or did you have it shipped from the US?
You can get the 20+ direct from omnicharges website (pending availability). I think you can also get them from Amazon au.
We got ours through the Kickstarter campaign.
Can anyone please tell me the information about, Can i carry this power bank in international flight ??
great products!! thanks for sharing the video!
Our pleasure! Thanks for tuning in!
Good review, only thing is:
1) Wish you'd gone through a complicated set-up, as in through charging with menu settings on one of the units
2) The Omni 20+ does have HVDC, but the Ultimate does not have HVDC (you stated it did). I talked to the team, they said it was unnecessary because the Omni 20 has a 'modified square wave' whereas the Ultimate is a 'pure sine wave'. This is a shame, because not only is it much more efficient (more battery life), but the AC on the Ultimate is extremely noisy (RF), so much so I can't power many things with it without shutdowns (blackmagic camera for instance). There are many videos on youtube demonstrating this.
Hi James,
Thank you for your insights, I was thinking of doing a follow up to this video with the batteries in use in a practical setting, so I may do as you suggested.
Also thank you for catching that correction Re: the HVDC. That was a mistake on my part.
@@CreativePathFilms Great, and thanks for replying to all the comments on your videos.
With the AC, there isn't too much noise on the actual line itself (if you plug an oscilloscope into the terminals), but if there is a USB cable placed anywhere near it, it will pick up huge interference. So when I plug it into my BMPCC 6k, it powers the camera fine, but the SSD drive immediately disconnects and won't reconnect. There's a video on youtube of someone trying to power their TV with it, but it can't lock on to any channels when powered by the ultimate.
Extra bonus points if you try shielding it in aluminium foil tape or using cables with a ferrite coil on the end of them (greatly reduces interference)
Facinating. I’ll do some more research, run some tests and look into it further. Thanks again!
Thank you, Great product and great review. 👍🏻
You’re more than welcome! Thank you for watching.
I'm glad I made a good investment in these. I do artwork at a cafe frequently with my ipad. But I hate having to station myself to the nearest inconvienently placed outlets, which are often occupied by someone else with the same idea. And I'll be there for hours, so it's good to have a good battery bank to keep it as caffinated as I am.
Haha, this is awesome!!
They’re so handy. I literally have devices running on them daily. And aren’t cafes are the best for creative work? Don’t know what it is. The white noise maybe? Good coffee definitely is a factor 🤣
@@CreativePathFilms I think the Cafe works well because it lacks my parents obnoxious dogs.
Haha, yep! This is the answer 🤣
Hi, if I use a solar panel greater than 45W would it damage or break the device?
It's got protective circuitry, so likely it will give you an over-voltage warning, then shut down the device. But using any charging method that exceeds the recommended input voltage isn't the best idea and may ultimately damage the device.
Ecoflow river mini wireless would be next step up. It then you’re down power worm hole
Thanks! I’ll have to check it out!
Whats the specific volt you need to power your mac
Depends on the Mac. You’ll have to check your macs charger for the specifics.
Can you please guide me on one thing, does the 20c+ have the control and presets of DC output voltage and amperage like 20+?
The 20C+ doesn’t have a DC port, only 2x USB-C ports and 2x USB-A ports.
Okay thank you, can we change voltage output for 2 usb-c ports?
Not manually, it automatically detects the appropriate USB-C protocol from the device it’s connected to.
If you’re after a battery that can do high powered USB-C and had DC In/out capability, checkout my review on the omni 40C+. It’s a beast.
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I just wish the charger was built-in, so you could plug the OminCharges directly into an outlet for charging. That would also mean, you wouldn't have to bring a laptop power supply along for extended trips.
I know what you mean, the charger for the Omni ultimate in particular is quite cumbersome. The Omni 20 charger is fairly compact, which I like.
That’s why I appreciate that they can all be charged via USB-C, which opens up a number of options with chargers I would be taking anyway. In a pinch if I have to pack really light, I’ve gotten away with charging them off a regular 5v phone charger and a USB-A to USB-C cable. It takes a lot longer to charge, but it works and it keeps the profile way down.
Why is the omnicharge ultimate cheaper in my country than the 20+?
Almost twice the price for the 20+
How strange! I have no idea! Is this on the omnicharge website?
@@CreativePathFilms no, it's through online resellers. It's still weird because it looks like all the prices for omnicharge products are inflated.
Don’t know sorry! 🤷🏻♂️
But that’s very annoying!
Looks like a good brand. I'll have to get me one thanks
We’ve certainly gotten a lot of value out of them. 😁
Great video but boy that background music was much too loud. On my phone it was making listening to the very Educated chap very uncomfortable.
Oh no! Sorry to cause your ears discomfort! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
We’ll take that on board. In fact I will take it upstairs and chastise our editor personally. Sometime I think he just doesn’t like my voice... 😂
In all seriousness, we’ll knock it back a touch. Have a great day!
what's the difference between modified sine wave and pure sine wave. These power banks have different AC sine waves and you don't mention this after 25min.
Hi George,
Yes you're correct, it was something that was missed when I was putting this video together, so that's on me for not being aware of that distinction between the models at the time. That being said, I believe that it wasn't publicised in the specs that the omni 20's use a modified sine wave until the most recent website update. Their current product manual still omits this distinction. It was actually a viewer who got in contact Omnicharge directly, who first brought this difference to my attention.
To answer your question, pure sine wave is theoretically better overall and is more appropriate for highly sensitive electronics.
That being said, it has been reported that the Omni Ultimate has quite a "noisy" inverter that produces a fair amount of electronic interference, which can create some issues in some circumstances. Most notably when trying to simultaneously use the AC port with either the USB-A or USB-C ports, it has been reported that the electrical interference from the inverter can cause usability issues. Omnicharge even added a note about this in their latest manual. I don't currently have access to an EMF meter, nor have I tested this practically to determine how limiting the interference is.
Practically, I have found us using the omni 20's more frequently than the ultimate for AC use. But this mostly due to the the size and weight of the units and partly due to the physical limitations of the recessed EU port on the 240v model of the ultimate.
To date, I have not encountered any issues with using the modified sine wave of the Omni 20's. We've used their AC port to power small lighting fixtures, sound recorders, laptops (both via the AC port with a power brick, as well as via the DC barrel directly), battery chargers, camping equipment and various other devices with no issues to date.
I found this link useful, if you would like to learn more.
www.wiltronics.com.au/wiltronics-knowledge-base/pure-vs-modified-sine-wave-inverter-which-should-you-buy/#:~:text=In%20pure%20sine%20wave%20inverters,switches%20from%20positive%20to%20negative.&text=If%20there%20isn't%20an,can%20use%20a%20modified%20inverter.
I may end up doing more research into this topic and even do a video on it down the line.
Thanks for your comment!
I have seen where the 20+ has a USB C that goes up too 100 Watts. What is going on here? Is it 60 Max or 100 max?
I just double checked the spec sheets in case they updated something since this video was published.
The Omni 20+ is indeed 60w max. It’s the omni 20-C+ that has the 100w USB-C port. This is a different model where they subbed out the AC port for the 100w USB-C port. Hope that helps!
great videao explanation! thanks
Thank you 🙏🏼😊
To answer ur omniultimate, install a handle on the battery to swap without reaching in.
You definitely could!
I would just worry if the battery connection would remain secure and reliable without the battery being screwed in place. That would be my only reservation.
@@CreativePathFilms velcro handle. Or cement glued. Something like a pop socket
@@almondjoy590 definitely something to explore further!
Hi, just wondering where to get the DC to magesafe cable?
You can order them from the omnicharge website 😊
Will I be able to charge the Omnicharge 25600 with a solar panel in the wilderness?
Yes it can!
Either via usb-c (40w max) or 5.5x2.1 DC barrel connector at 45w max (4.5-36v up to 3amps)
@@CreativePathFilms i appreciate your time. One last question. Can i use a 60w solar panel even though it will only accept 45 watts?
I would presume, only if can limit or control the input wattage in some way. Without knowing the spec of the panel, it’s hard to say. If it had usb-c PD output, then possibly. If it’s just providing unregulated 60w DC, then I would say no, that’ll be too much input for the battery to be able to accept and you may damage the battery or cause it to shutoff the charging by inputting too much current.
Would the ultimate version work well with the super fast charge feature of Samsung phones?
Great question, the omni ultimate should be theoretically capable of drawing both the 25w (super charge v1) and 45w (v2.0) as it can draw up to a maximum of 60w (20v/3A).
However, I can’t confirm if the ultimate supports PPS, which is required for the 45w charging to work. I can’t find any further info on this.
So if you’re happy with 25w charging, you should be fine (9v3a is a standard PD profile), but 45w charging I can’t confirm. I don’t have any Samsung phones, so I can’t give you an absolutely definitive answer. I’d suggest doing a bit more research if you need 45w before committing. 😊
Hope that helps!
Have you experienced noise, coming from the AC charging port when in use? It sounds like static, electrical noise. It doesn't sound safe for sensitive electronics. Arching isn't good for any electronics
Good question, yes we have.
I am not an electrical engineer, but from my research it appears to be quite common for a DC inverters to produce a noise, as they generate “harmonics” as a byproduct when when creating the sine wave AC.
We’ve never encountered any observable electrical issues from using the AC port, but the noise can be annoying and a bit unpleasant!
I can confirm the hum/noise is present on all the AC omnicharge models we have, as well as some other DC battery inverters we have which are designed for our Einstein photography flash units. These are built for purpose and still produce the same noise. I hope that helps reassure you somewhat.
@@CreativePathFilms thanks. As an engineer, when hearing that noise cautioned me
Well fair enough!
Do you know if once you select a custom variable DC output if that setting is saved (i.e 15.6v @ 7A), or will that have to be adjusted each time the Omni Ultimate is powered on ?
Hi Chewash :)
The Omni Ultimate has 4 programmable DC values that it will save and store, so yes you can setup multiple volt/amp values and it will save each of them. Note that the maximum amperage is reduced the higher your voltage is set, to keep it within the max 150w range.
The omni 20’s will remember your last used setting when you turn on DC and a prompt will appear asking you if you want to use that same setting again.
What's the difference between the omni 20400 mah which is the one I have and the 20+ besides the wireless charging?
Hi! Thanks for the question :)
The 20+ has a slightly lower mah rating (20000) plus has the addition of 10w wireless charging and a (from memory 60w) USB-C port next to the DC port.
Hope that helps!
Interested with the Omni Ultimate but can't find any information about it's solar capabilities. Any ideas?
Yeah it’s a tricky one, there’s very little literature on the solar charging capabilities.
Once upon a time omnicharge produced their own portable 20w solar panels for charging the omni 20’s on the go. I think they’ve been discontinued for a while though.
The omnicharge units are pretty forgiving with their input voltages, as long as you don’t exceed the maximums.
So I would assume that as long as the panel offers a dc input of no greater than 90w (5-25v up to 4.5a) it should be fine with the unit. From memory, I think they advertised that they were compatible with a range of panels. This was years ago mind you.
However, I don’t like making assumptions when it comes to electronics, so I’ve put in a support ticket posing some questions.
If you have anything specific you’d like me to ask, please let me know :)
Edit: I though I should mention I don’t own any portable panels and don’t have any first hand experience with solar charging the units.
@@CreativePathFilms Thank u for ur kind reply! I'm a newbie when it comes to power banks, power stations and solar panels. My aim is to somehow have a backup if the world or my country would have power shortages, this is why I'm researching and willing to have some sort of ways for powering - charging my Macbook Pros, PC Laptops, iPhones and iPads..
It seems like when it comes to power stations and solar panels the brand called Jackery has a high reputation. Heard of them?
Yeah, I totally get that!
I’ve heard of jackery, they seem to be the omnicharges main competitor.
I haven’t worked with any of their battery solutions so can’t really speak about them with any sort of first hand experience.
@@FatihVideographer So Omnicharge support referred me to the following support article: support.omnicharge.co/hc/en-us/articles/115006071268?input_string=solar+charging+and+the+o
It looks like any portable solar panels that supply less than the maximum input wattage can be used the charge the ultimate via the DC barrel. If the panel you buy only has a USB output port, they sell a seperate USB charging cable accessory that you can use to charge the battery. Though it looks like panels with an unregulated DC output port will be the most efficient option. Hope that's the answer you were looking for!
with the 12800 model, is it possible to be charging the powerbank using USBC and at the same time charging 2 devices? one via wireless and one with a USBA?
Good question, I’m not sure! I know it can definitely do one or the other, but I’m not sure if it can do both. Let me look into that for you and I’ll come back to you.
Okay, I can confirm that yes, it can pass-through charge to the wireless charging pad and the usb-a port simultaneously while charging the battery via USB-C.
@@CreativePathFilms I have 12800 mHa do I use the QC 3.0 output to power my Mission Engineering 529 which is 5volt converter that puts out 9 volt output for my guitar pedals.
Sorry Jerry, that one’s a little too niche and I’m not familiar with that converter. I couldn’t say how the battery will respond in that setup if you’re converting the 5v to a higher voltage.
Thank you! GREAT VIDEO! Please advice what would be the best way to charge DELL laptop with European type F I believe socket ? Thank you in advance
Thank you!
The omni 20+ is probably the best bet, as the omni ultimate has a recessed c-type socket I believe, so you’d probably need an adapter or different plug end.
You can also buy DC cables to pair with specific laptop models. You can then dial in your specific laptop voltage and bypass the AC all together. Don’t know if they do one for dell laptops, but it’s worth a poke around their website to have a look at the options, and do some further research to make sure you get the one that fits your specific needs.
Hope that helps!
@@CreativePathFilms Much appreciated! Thank you! I believe would be best just to get charging cabel with end c-type socket and it should be fine!
Yeah if your charger uses a standard fig 8 plug end, that would be the go.
Is the additional battery included in the $400?
With the Omni ultimate? Unfortunately no, they need to be purchased separately.
Hi, @Creative Path Film, thanks for such a wonderful review but I just wanted to know more about that OMNI 12800 Mah powerbank , does it charge Ipad faster and how many times can I charge iPad with it?
Good Question! You'll get approximately 2 charges out that model for an iPad. I'll see if I can dig out my iPad charger and see if I can compare charging rates for you to give you an idea. Let me get back to you ~Dave
@@CreativePathFilms thanks i will be waiting for your reply
@@CreativePathFilms Also i have another question, how fast is the charging ? is it 9A or 3A?
@@shaimazaher9342 usb-c has the following profiles: 5v/3a, 9v/3a, 12v/3a, 15v/3a, 20v/3a (60w max)
Usb-a quick charge 3.0 has the following:
5v/2.4a, 9v2a, 12v/1.5a.
Hope that helps!
Okay, so I finally found our OG apple usb-c charger for our 2021 iPad.
I recharged the iPads battery by 10% using each method (in this order) and here were my findings. The charger was the fastest method of recharging the iPad by a margin.
Charger: 26 minutes
Omni mobile (usb-a quick charge): 41.5 minutes
Omni mobile (usb-c PD): 1h 11 minutes
The fact that it was faster to charge with usb a as opposed to usb c really surprised me!
So overall the charger is faster than the battery.
How can I recharge the battery itself?
Hey, thanks for the question!
The omni mobile series and the omni 20-C via usb-c, the omni 20+ via either USB-C or a 12v 5.5x2.1 DC barrel port charger (not included). The omni ultimate via USB-C or the 12v 5.5x2.5 DC barrel port.
Hope that helps!
@@CreativePathFilms Thank you very much, wish you all the best
can you charge an omni C+ with a 96w apple charger?
I believe so. I do not have a 96w charger with me at the moment as I am travelling, but it looks like 3 of the chargers power profiles fall under the 45w input maximum.
We regularly use a 60w Apple charger for ours with no issue, as it also has lower wattage PD power profiles, so you should be fine. But please don’t take my word for it, check the output specs on your charger and double check.
Where can I buy the product in Australia?
I haven’t been able to find an Australian retailer at this stage. I’ve always bought them from the crowdfunding campaigns. They are available on the omnicharge US website, as well as Amazon.
@@CreativePathFilms Thanks for the response.
Well done video. Thank you
Thank you very much, we appreciate the comment!
Great Video!
Thank you!
Which one of these will supply Alienware/m17/R3 without issues???
I'm not familiar enough with the specifics of those to comfortably make a recommendation, it will depend on the power draw and specs of the laptop.
I have 1 question? What does that yellow tip plug use for?
No worries! It’s an MR30 style DC port for the variable DC output. The unit includes an MR30 - 5.5 x 2.1mm DC barrel adapter, which is the most common DC port size.
Can you use this to charge a oral b electric toothbrush?
Yes you can, I have done so when travelling! Haha. You can use the AC outlet to charge it. From memory it automatically shut off AC once it reached full charge.
Would you say this charger is better than the chargtech charger?
I haven’t got any experience with the chargtech charger, so unfortunately I can’t offer an informed opinion on that one 🙂
Thanks for the help
My pleasure :)
I have the 20+
We use it camping for charging phones and cameras, as well as powering up a laptop to drop photos, and man, I absolutely love it.
I will likely purchase an ultimate version soon, so I can utilize interchangeable batteries
They’re so useful, glad you’re enjoying the 20+!
Hola tengo la 20+ la cargue 100%
Y cargar mi computadora y solo aguanto para el 60%para my computadora
Será que estoy asiendo di algo mal
Why u can't fly with Omni Ultimate? You can fly with power bank to maximum 160wh?!
Yes you are correct. I perhaps should have been more specific in the video. From my understanding (and it can vary airline to airline, country to country) I believe you can fly up to 160wh if you apply for and can gain airline approval for the battery. In terms of being able to walk onto a plane without having to go through that process and gain the necessary paperwork, most airlines restrict passengers to 100wh or under. At least this is the case in Australia and the US.
cannot fly with the Ultimate?
At 142Wh generally no. The standard limit for batteries with airline travel is generally under 100wh.
In Australia you can apply to get approval for devices up to 160wh but it’s a bit of a process. So it may be possible, but it’s going to be a pain.
If you want something you can travel with pain-free, the omni 20 series are the ones to look at. They come in at 73wh.
But with any battery, it’s always best to check your specific airlines policies before travelling.
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Thank you 🙏🏼
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You’re welcome!
Omni needs to update their portable power up to 50,000 mah 25,000 is not enough for a laptop.
Yes it would be nice to see some larger capacities, the ultimate is good at 38,400 but it’s time for an upgrade or a new model now that they’ve been out for several years now.
They have over 1000 charges
They certainly do! That’s a great point and one I forgot to mention, thank you 😊
none on Amazon. welcome to the future.
Crazy! I’ve updated the links in the description, the moment store have them in stock. You can also buy direct from their website.
I wouldn't recommend this product I've been having problems getting a full change I have contacted them because it's still under warranty and I keep getting a run around with this Company I will never buy from them again. I'm calling you Credit card company to get my money back. I gave them a chance do replace the unit. I did everything they asked me to do even sent photos and videos. This unit is expensive and I should get what i paid for it shouldn't take 24 hours to fully charge and still I wouldn't get fully charged the Highest it would go would be 97%. Other than that the unit works fine but charging is a big problem. And it's not made in the USA it's a waste of money
Sorry to hear you’ve had a bad experience with your unit Rocky, I haven’t had that problem with any of my units. Silly question, but are you using a low voltage charger? Hope you get the resolution you’re looking for.
Your accent shifts to American sometime mate ;) like literally
We’ll that’s odd!
They can't damage my device?... Give me three of the largest once. 100000 mah 😊 please
Well, nothing’s perfect, but it has excellent circuitry under the hood. So you’re about as protected as you can get.
It can still damage devices if you say, set the incorrect DC voltage for the device, but the unit gives you a warning to ensure you check first!
They have a power station unit now called the omni offgrid. The things a tank! Hoping to get my hands on one soon.
@@CreativePathFilms Thanks you are perfect at these tech reviews, I hope to see much more. I wouldn't mind making you my number one tech reviewer. Cheers
@@CreativePathFilms I'm planing to own the Omni Ultimate in the near future.
What a compliment! Thank you 🙏🏼😊
Im so glad you enjoyed it and got value.
And I hope the Omni Ultimate serves you as well as it has for us.
Watched the whole video. I wondering when the review starts. I don't like how you use the word "review" in your title, in this context it is misleading to put it mildly.
This, in fact was not a review, but a fluff unpaid (yeah right) overview of Omni's complete line of products.
You didn't test the actual capacity against their advertised capacity. You didn't state anything that could be improved or anything remotely negative or criticizing at all.
You didn't state how this product stacks up to other product compared to capacities.
All of this was just marketing fluff.
This was not a review. I wish you would change your title
Sorry to disappoint and that the video didn’t live up to yours expectations!
They’re all valid points that you’ve made, there are lots of ways this video could have been better. It was one of our first reviews so, I’ve learnt a lot since then. I think we had about 100 subscribers at the time, so omnicharge definitely paid us the big bucks for this one!! 🤣
Please bare in mind, this isn’t a tech review channel, and the reviews/overviews I do are predominantly products that I use day to day in our work. Ones that I’m excited about, and that I feel could be valuable to our audience. We don’t get sent any random products or anything like that.
This also isn’t what we do for a living. So at the end of the day I’m just another smuck on the internet trying to find his way in the world. I hope your day gets better from here 😊
@@CreativePathFilms To be fair. your production quality is actually amazing, and everything you did have written was comprehensive and articulate. I believe that I took my frustration out on you when you didnt really deserve it. You see I have been having repeated black outs, and so I find my self in another blackout. Now I am on the market for a battery solution, and have prior knowledge of battery bank manufacturers lying about their actual capacity.
So I was really seeking that information over most other information.
And so when I didnt get that information, I got upset with you. It was not fair, and for that I am sorry.
In truth, it was genuinely a great video about products a man has used for years, of which he has only great experiences from them. That is why there were no real negatives, because, in your use cases, you didnt encounter any. I really do hope you accept my apology.
@@jeffreymelton2200 Thank you, I very much appreciate that you took the time to write this, both as a creator and a human. It means a lot.
I can can absolutely empathise with how incredibly frustrating it must be to be subject to constant blackouts. I'm also very aware of how manufacturers tend to "fudge things" a bit, to cut corners and increase sales. It happens in our industry all the time, particularly with the lighting gear we use. It can be very frustrating.
I accept your apology and sincerely hope your day gets better, and that you find the solution that you are looking for.
can you pls focus on the item not on your face!
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Stupid background noise, obviously more important than information. Had to stop after 2 minutes. So sad for that video.
Yeah it was an early video, we’ve made a few changes since then. Sorry to disappoint.
First
Haha, nice one :)