So two questions i had about it being charged while plugged into the PD usb C port. 1. Does passthrough still function if DC out is being used? 2. Are you able to use the DC port to charge it simultaneously with the C port?
Great questions! Unfortunately, the DC and USB-C ports share the same power circuit, so can’t be used simultaneously in any configuration. If charging the battery via USB-C, you can still pass through charge to another usb-c port (30w), the usb-a ports or the AC port. If you’re charging the battery via DC, you can only pass through charge and use the USB-A and AC ports.
Just thought you may want to know about this new release, solves the passthrough charging issues from the 40+. th-cam.com/video/Bkletijln0Y/w-d-xo.html
I really would like to purchase this product but not knowing if an airline will have a problem with or not is kinda scary, were you ever personally blocked in an airport trying to transport it?
It’s a great battery, but it will need prior approval and the relevant paperwork ahead of time. If you’re after something that doesn’t need approval, you want to look for a 99wh (or less) battery, such as the omni 20+ or 20C+ from the omnicharge range.
@@CreativePathFilms Thanks for the tip! I think 2x 20C+ will do the trick, I'm preparing for a conference in november, last time everyone was competing for outlets lol
Can you please clarify the time you say this can power items, you mention that it charged the MacBook Pro to 86% in 1 hr 23 mins. The MacBook battery i believe is 99.8Wh, and 86% of this is around 85.8 Wh. I doubt the MacBook will charge at 94-96w watts for that long as the battery will overheat. Also your sustained times don't make sense as 18-20w for 8-9 hours is a minimum of 144Wh and the battery max is 142WH, as you know not all 142Wh will be available otherwise it would take the battery to zero which I'm sure the BMS wont allow. If your BMS cut off is 3.0V and based on Omnicharge stating the mAh is 38400 that would mean the useable amount of power in the battery is in the region of 116Wh so 9 hours at 20 w is impossible. I do however like the fact that they can be used on a multi charge for commercial use and can be tracked and usage analysed, very good features. I am concerned that the switch to a modified sinewave inverter is very inefficient and not a particularly green option as it will waste a lot of power in the conversion of Dc to AC
Thanks for your detailed questions, you clearly know you’re stuff! The usage tests I performed were very practical in nature. - The MacBook was turned on at the time of the test, so it was also drawing power as well as charging. - The 94-96w was an observed average, however in reality whilst it was drawing a sustained 20v, the amperage and wattage was fluctuating up and down, so it wasn’t drawing this wattage continuously. - As stated in the video, the 8-9 hour estimate was the estimate provided by the Omni 40+’s interface, and I implied it was likely an unrealistically optimistic estimate, which your math has proven. I did not run this test. If you have suggestions on tools or methods I could employ to improve my testing, I would appreciate your insights. I’m a video guy, so camera/lighting is my area of expertise. But I use these batteries in a production context. Thanks! Dave.
500euro for this is too much. They did not improve upon 20C in anyway or fixed any issues. Modified sin wave inverter is a huge downgrade from ultimate, combined circuits for usb-c and DC are unacceptable. Specifications wise its rather unremakable. Most workstation laptops spike well over 100w, making this unusable. From usb-C ports only one is fast and others are slow. Total output is also rather low for such a big bank. Shame such a nice design falls short of being good.
I know….it’s a huge draw back, but they do have other models available under the 99wh restriction if you’re looking for something similar, such as the 20+
So two questions i had about it being charged while plugged into the PD usb C port.
1. Does passthrough still function if DC out is being used?
2. Are you able to use the DC port to charge it simultaneously with the C port?
Great questions!
Unfortunately, the DC and USB-C ports share the same power circuit, so can’t be used simultaneously in any configuration.
If charging the battery via USB-C, you can still pass through charge to another usb-c port (30w), the usb-a ports or the AC port.
If you’re charging the battery via DC, you can only pass through charge and use the USB-A and AC ports.
Just thought you may want to know about this new release, solves the passthrough charging issues from the 40+.
th-cam.com/video/Bkletijln0Y/w-d-xo.html
I really would like to purchase this product but not knowing if an airline will have a problem with or not is kinda scary, were you ever personally blocked in an airport trying to transport it?
It’s a great battery, but it will need prior approval and the relevant paperwork ahead of time. If you’re after something that doesn’t need approval, you want to look for a 99wh (or less) battery, such as the omni 20+ or 20C+ from the omnicharge range.
@@CreativePathFilms Thanks for the tip! I think 2x 20C+ will do the trick, I'm preparing for a conference in november, last time everyone was competing for outlets lol
@@Davorge fair enough!! I hope they work well for you at the conference. Thanks for watching 😊
Think it would have been a good idea to also somehow make it so that this also worked as a hub for your laptop
It has that functionality! See 15:54
@@CreativePathFilms yeah I wrote too soon lol. Thanks
Haha, no worries!
Can you please clarify the time you say this can power items, you mention that it charged the MacBook Pro to 86% in 1 hr 23 mins. The MacBook battery i believe is 99.8Wh, and 86% of this is around 85.8 Wh. I doubt the MacBook will charge at 94-96w watts for that long as the battery will overheat. Also your sustained times don't make sense as 18-20w for 8-9 hours is a minimum of 144Wh and the battery max is 142WH, as you know not all 142Wh will be available otherwise it would take the battery to zero which I'm sure the BMS wont allow. If your BMS cut off is 3.0V and based on Omnicharge stating the mAh is 38400 that would mean the useable amount of power in the battery is in the region of 116Wh so 9 hours at 20 w is impossible. I do however like the fact that they can be used on a multi charge for commercial use and can be tracked and usage analysed, very good features. I am concerned that the switch to a modified sinewave inverter is very inefficient and not a particularly green option as it will waste a lot of power in the conversion of Dc to AC
Thanks for your detailed questions, you clearly know you’re stuff!
The usage tests I performed were very practical in nature.
- The MacBook was turned on at the time of the test, so it was also drawing power as well as charging.
- The 94-96w was an observed average, however in reality whilst it was drawing a sustained 20v, the amperage and wattage was fluctuating up and down, so it wasn’t drawing this wattage continuously.
- As stated in the video, the 8-9 hour estimate was the estimate provided by the Omni 40+’s interface, and I implied it was likely an unrealistically optimistic estimate, which your math has proven. I did not run this test.
If you have suggestions on tools or methods I could employ to improve my testing, I would appreciate your insights. I’m a video guy, so camera/lighting is my area of expertise. But I use these batteries in a production context.
Thanks! Dave.
500euro for this is too much. They did not improve upon 20C in anyway or fixed any issues. Modified sin wave inverter is a huge downgrade from ultimate, combined circuits for usb-c and DC are unacceptable. Specifications wise its rather unremakable. Most workstation laptops spike well over 100w, making this unusable. From usb-C ports only one is fast and others are slow. Total output is also rather low for such a big bank. Shame such a nice design falls short of being good.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it’s definitely on the pricey side.
As awesome as this looks, I stopped watching it the moment you said it cannot be taken on a plane 🥲
I know….it’s a huge draw back, but they do have other models available under the 99wh restriction if you’re looking for something similar, such as the 20+
@@CreativePathFilmsI went and ordered it anyway! 🤣🤣🤣 I’ve been waiting for something like this
I hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
~Dave @@JaimeAndresMedia