I’ve been looking for an answer to this question! It’s nice to know that it could be useful to drill small holes. Anything repetitive or bigger would obviously warrant grabbing an actual drill driver but I can see this being perfect in a minimalist toolkit for helping friends do small maintenance tasks around the house. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity by running the test!
My buddy said today, “I bet I finally have a tool you don’t have” he had picked up a Craftsman 4v screwdriver. I said that’s funny, I just got an electric screwdriver myself and showed him mine. He held it, used it a little, and then said “order me one” 😂. He liked the size of the Vessel being more like a regular screwdriver. I’ve never had a screwdriver like this before, but so far I like it…. Hope you do too 👍
I’m just showing what they do, they make some good stuff. They just released a 3 speed one like mine, but a US version instead of going through Amazon Japan
Great info. I really like the idea of using that for doing handset installation. Drilling the pilots for latch and strike plate as well as running the screws down and finishing them by hand. Even with M12 Installation Driver clutched down I’ve stripped out that wonderful soft pine on cheap hollow core doors. Now I’ve got to buy one..dang it!😂
My first boss told me to buy a new tool every payday and eventually I'd have all the tools. Its been almost 30 years and I still don't have all the tools lol
Hey, just bought a pair of these after watching your first video about them. I like them but the up and down play was bugging me. So I cut about 6mm off an Eraser Pen refill and shoved it down the collet so my Milwaukee bits could bottom out. The eraser does prevent the Vessel bit from going in, which is ok in my case because I dont use Vessel bits. Hope this helps someone.
Yeah I didn’t even notice that at first. It doesn’t matter while you are using it because you are pressing it into the fastener, but I get what you mean about bugging you. Thanks for the suggestion 👍
👍.. I’m actually surprised, I didn’t think it would with the over torque protection. Definitely more of a “in a pinch” and not a every day option though.
I know your a pro at what you do, me 40 yrs of carpentry. I believe you should use the right tool for the right job. In my opinion, I would never use this to drill anything. I have one of these coming from Japan and believe they are design for a specific job, drilling is not one of them. The possibility of someone saying, oh I can drill out this 1/4" hole then wind up prematurely burning out the motor. Just my 2cents. Otherwise great vids.
The most common for me is 10-32 for ground screws in electrical boxes. I would think the most commonly used fastener you might run into is 1/4-20 but I could be different for everyone.
It will, but you will probably have to hand break them first. Just depends on how tight they are on there. It will take any bit with a 1/4 shaft. It has some play in/out, but once you press the screwdriver into the fastener, you don’t notice it. (On my version, not sure about the other two)
@@sethreese7418 I think it would end up ruining the motor in it… to do any drilling on a consistent basis. It’s a different type of load than putting in threaded screws in a nut.. It would also probably torque out. These type of screwdrivers are really made for screws going into something that accepts the screw. Door knobs, electrical receptacles to the box, etc. I wouldn’t even plan to use these for screws into a material where a screw needs to make the hole.
@MORGAN'S Maintenance good choice of wood as pine will be far easier. Would think it will easily drill much larger by starting small and stepping up. You used sharp drills too but wonder what Fisch drills would be like. Definitely must get one
@@jcoul1sc yeah I think pine should be easier too… And you are right, starting with smaller holes and stepping up if you need to drill a big hole would be the way to go. It never seemed to want to stop on any of the smaller stuff, I expected that torque protection to keep it from doing it. I would think most smaller holes could be done with it.
@MORGAN'S Maintenance you will have to get the 1/4 hex chuck for it. Use straight shank up to 1/4 inch. Works great on my yankee even if it's bent. Maybe that's your next video, yankee v vessel
😂… I didn’t say I would use it that way, but you know me… I aim to please. Most jobs where I would need to pre-drill, I am already doing other work that would likely require a drill anyways. I can’t imagine it would be really often that I would use it for this.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I'm a bit crazy on this point. Some of my tools may be dirtier than I'd like them to be, some of the tools may be older or with signs of wear. But every tool has its purpose and I use it solely for that. No chiselling with screwdrivers, no Phillips bit in Pozidriv screw, if I install cabinets I have impact driver with IMPACT bits, chuckless (1/4") drill driver solely for driving delicate or predrilled screws and a heavy drill for hole saws and drilling. The same applies to plunge saw and rear handle saw (skillsaw-like) - one is for extremely precise cuts, the other is for rough cuts. A small SDS+ combi hammer drill is for drilling holes and some very small demos, big SDS Max is for normal or heavy duty demos and hole drilling bigger than 1". Etc. So when watching this video I was a bit anxious that we may see some smoke out of that screwdriver.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I was honestly really surprised it even did it.. I thought the over torque protection would kick it out as soon as it grabbed in the material. I didn’t try it any before I started filming because I wanted to see it the same as everyone else. I’m sure it’s pretty taxing on the battery though, probably wouldn’t get many holes. I’m the same as you, It would have never really even crossed my mind to put a drill bit in this had someone not asked. I’m normally a right tool for the job… occasionally I find some tool that works well for some unintended use, but not typically.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Yep, that's the only way with tools - right tool for the job. If I do something stupid I just buy cheap disposable tool. Couple of moths ago I had to remove some old oil based paint (definitely with all kinds of 60s carcinogenic stuff inside) from a wall covered with lime plaster without damaging that plaser. Thus a heat gun (despite the full face mask) was no go. So I used a cheap, corded powerplaner. It did the job pretty well and if I'd change the blades I could probably still use it for planing some nasty wood.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I have a set of beater tools I use for bigger demos so that I don’t wreck my good ones (drills, saws, etc)… Didn’t buy them for that specifically, just use my older ones. That way I’m always just looking for the easiest way to get the materials out, and not worried about breaking my better tools, ruining good blades, etc.
I'm impressed! Didn't think it could handle that!
@@dperreno I’m not sure I would use it for it.. but in a pinch I guess.
I’ve been looking for an answer to this question! It’s nice to know that it could be useful to drill small holes. Anything repetitive or bigger would obviously warrant grabbing an actual drill driver but I can see this being perfect in a minimalist toolkit for helping friends do small maintenance tasks around the house. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity by running the test!
You are welcome… Glad it helped 👍👍
I ordered 3 different versions of this from Amazon Japan, because of you..... Should be here by the end of the month. Thank you! Haha
My buddy said today, “I bet I finally have a tool you don’t have” he had picked up a Craftsman 4v screwdriver.
I said that’s funny, I just got an electric screwdriver myself and showed him mine. He held it, used it a little, and then said “order me one” 😂. He liked the size of the Vessel being more like a regular screwdriver.
I’ve never had a screwdriver like this before, but so far I like it…. Hope you do too 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance when I saw it, I knew I had to have one. Such a cool design!
@@KillingerUSA 👍
Your the best vessel salesman on the internet… well done
I’m just showing what they do, they make some good stuff.
They just released a 3 speed one like mine, but a US version instead of going through Amazon Japan
Bought one of these to use for assembly of 3d prints and use it with a mini chuck adapter for metric reamers and drill bits
👍👍... Nice way to make it work for you
Great info. I really like the idea of using that for doing handset installation. Drilling the pilots for latch and strike plate as well as running the screws down and finishing them by hand. Even with M12 Installation Driver clutched down I’ve stripped out that wonderful soft pine on cheap hollow core doors.
Now I’ve got to buy one..dang it!😂
It took two videos at least to get you this time… that progress 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance No, it took two videos to get my wife!😂 You had me at Vessel.
My first boss told me to buy a new tool every payday and eventually I'd have all the tools. Its been almost 30 years and I still don't have all the tools lol
Me either 😂… it’s good advice 👍
Hey, just bought a pair of these after watching your first video about them. I like them but the up and down play was bugging me. So I cut about 6mm off an Eraser Pen refill and shoved it down the collet so my Milwaukee bits could bottom out. The eraser does prevent the Vessel bit from going in, which is ok in my case because I dont use Vessel bits. Hope this helps someone.
Yeah I didn’t even notice that at first. It doesn’t matter while you are using it because you are pressing it into the fastener, but I get what you mean about bugging you.
Thanks for the suggestion 👍
Makita bit piece makes up the difference in length between the Japanese bits and the US/EU bits.
I use a step drill bit in mine for drilling those awkward punch outs in plastic boxes.
👍👍… yeah it’s I bet it does well in plastic.
Will it drill? 🎯🤺
Some say it won't, others say it will.
Morgan says...
Only small pilot-holes, Mr. Bill.
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I was wondering this myself......quite interesting.
I’m not sure I would ever use it with bigger bits, but small pilot holes maybe…
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The ole … can it in a pinch video. Awesome and thanks!!!
👍.. I’m actually surprised, I didn’t think it would with the over torque protection.
Definitely more of a “in a pinch” and not a every day option though.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I would never use a tool outside of its proper manufacturer’s specifications 😂😎
@@nachoisme 😂
I know your a pro at what you do, me 40 yrs of carpentry. I believe you should use the right tool for the right job. In my opinion, I would never use this to drill anything. I have one of these coming from Japan and believe they are design for a specific job, drilling is not one of them. The possibility of someone saying, oh I can drill out this 1/4" hole then wind up prematurely burning out the motor. Just my 2cents. Otherwise great vids.
Yeah I won’t use it for this either, I was just answering a question someone asked… you are right, right tool for the job is the way to go 👍
Sure it will drill a small hole but its main function is a screwdriver.
Agree 100%.. but people ask, I answer 😂
Whats the most common used self tapping bit??
The most common for me is 10-32 for ground screws in electrical boxes.
I would think the most commonly used fastener you might run into is 1/4-20 but I could be different for everyone.
will it work with impact bits / drive hex screws? I work in HVAC and will often pull on and off AC panels. Curious about hex bits
It will, but you will probably have to hand break them first. Just depends on how tight they are on there.
It will take any bit with a 1/4 shaft. It has some play in/out, but once you press the screwdriver into the fastener, you don’t notice it. (On my version, not sure about the other two)
will it ream conduit, with a impact reamer?????? very interested
I wouldn’t think so.. personally I wouldn’t use it as a drill, I was just answering a question.
I don’t think it would last long doing either.
@@MORGANSMaintenance so you’re saying it would have a tough time reaming the conduit, and it would die quick battery wise
@@sethreese7418 I think it would end up ruining the motor in it… to do any drilling on a consistent basis. It’s a different type of load than putting in threaded screws in a nut.. It would also probably torque out.
These type of screwdrivers are really made for screws going into something that accepts the screw. Door knobs, electrical receptacles to the box, etc.
I wouldn’t even plan to use these for screws into a material where a screw needs to make the hole.
Thanks
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@MORGAN'S Maintenance good choice of wood as pine will be far easier.
Would think it will easily drill much larger by starting small and stepping up. You used sharp drills too but wonder what Fisch drills would be like. Definitely must get one
@@jcoul1sc yeah I think pine should be easier too…
And you are right, starting with smaller holes and stepping up if you need to drill a big hole would be the way to go.
It never seemed to want to stop on any of the smaller stuff, I expected that torque protection to keep it from doing it. I would think most smaller holes could be done with it.
@MORGAN'S Maintenance you will have to get the 1/4 hex chuck for it. Use straight shank up to 1/4 inch. Works great on my yankee even if it's bent.
Maybe that's your next video, yankee v vessel
@@jcoul1sc 👍
1:18 Tap it? I just go up a size of screw!
👍👍… you can do that sometimes. Or use a drywall screw 😂
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Impressive….
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Or you could just go out & buy a drill
Very true 👍
Interesting way of abusing the tool.
😂… I didn’t say I would use it that way, but you know me… I aim to please.
Most jobs where I would need to pre-drill, I am already doing other work that would likely require a drill anyways. I can’t imagine it would be really often that I would use it for this.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I'm a bit crazy on this point. Some of my tools may be dirtier than I'd like them to be, some of the tools may be older or with signs of wear. But every tool has its purpose and I use it solely for that. No chiselling with screwdrivers, no Phillips bit in Pozidriv screw, if I install cabinets I have impact driver with IMPACT bits, chuckless (1/4") drill driver solely for driving delicate or predrilled screws and a heavy drill for hole saws and drilling. The same applies to plunge saw and rear handle saw (skillsaw-like) - one is for extremely precise cuts, the other is for rough cuts. A small SDS+ combi hammer drill is for drilling holes and some very small demos, big SDS Max is for normal or heavy duty demos and hole drilling bigger than 1". Etc.
So when watching this video I was a bit anxious that we may see some smoke out of that screwdriver.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I was honestly really surprised it even did it.. I thought the over torque protection would kick it out as soon as it grabbed in the material.
I didn’t try it any before I started filming because I wanted to see it the same as everyone else. I’m sure it’s pretty taxing on the battery though, probably wouldn’t get many holes.
I’m the same as you, It would have never really even crossed my mind to put a drill bit in this had someone not asked.
I’m normally a right tool for the job… occasionally I find some tool that works well for some unintended use, but not typically.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Yep, that's the only way with tools - right tool for the job. If I do something stupid I just buy cheap disposable tool. Couple of moths ago I had to remove some old oil based paint (definitely with all kinds of 60s carcinogenic stuff inside) from a wall covered with lime plaster without damaging that plaser. Thus a heat gun (despite the full face mask) was no go. So I used a cheap, corded powerplaner. It did the job pretty well and if I'd change the blades I could probably still use it for planing some nasty wood.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I have a set of beater tools I use for bigger demos so that I don’t wreck my good ones (drills, saws, etc)… Didn’t buy them for that specifically, just use my older ones.
That way I’m always just looking for the easiest way to get the materials out, and not worried about breaking my better tools, ruining good blades, etc.
You actually want lower speeds to drill metal. Look at proper machine shop drill presses. They are geared way slower than drill presses for wood.
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