Dr. Morgentaler faced the Supreme Court three times to fight abortion laws. The Court has also heard challenges to the rights of the fetus and the rights of the father since. It was declared neither supersede the woman's right to Security of the Person. The last time the law was challenged through Parliament, the Senate upheld the current (lack of) law by a tie. Conservatives are the only political party that allow candidates to follow their conscience on the matter. All other parties in Canada hold with current laws, and expect members of Parliament to vote along party lines. In theory, a pregnant person of any age can seek an abortion for any reason. In practice, this is not actually the case, as every province, and some health care providers impose their own regulation to some extent.
I think the organisation misses the "Human rights" of the murdered lifes, that doesn't appear to have any or very little value to pro-abortion and reproductive rights people. I lost my nephew at birth due to complications and mistakes by doctors at child-birth, I held him with his body dead in my arms, he was a human being, now he is in heaven more like an angel.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 Bodily autonomy was never violated. If you have intercourse, expect a child, regardless of whatever precautions you take. It's only natural that the sole means of human procreation results in procreation. When a woman aborts her baby, she is violating the bodily autonomy of the baby, which in 99% of cases, she consented to having, explicitly or implicitly, through her actions, knowing it was a possibility, however small. In the case that it was done against her will, does that devalue a life? Indeed, prosecute the father of the baby for committing crimes against her, but do not kill the baby, as the baby did nothing wrong, and has equal value to that of a baby conceived in a consenting environment. The bodily autonomy claim is a lie. Total nonsense.
It’s not murder when a fetus isn’t alive. It’s a being that doesn’t know what’s going on. It’s a bit different when they’re older and further along in the pregnancy. Sorry for your loss, but don’t perpetuate your feelings onto others and force them into something that’ll ruin their lives.
@@aldubm2234 Go on, tell me when life starts. All aside from either birth or conception is arbitrary. And if you don't see an 8 month old baby as a living human, then you're already lost. Life begins at conception, and it is a living human being at the smallest stage. Babies don't ruin lives, but regret for poor decisions does.
So I'm a USA citizen and I feel that we end up following Canada's trends often. In Canada when does abortion become illegal and when does the right of the parents request life saving treatments of their micro premie(s) become legal? I have a feeling those 2 have a connection, maybe even a political one. USA will be sure to follow. I've seen premies being denied of care after just for being born after 22 weeks in Canada. Apparently those children would have been cared for if born after 23 weeks.
Babies don’t know what’s going on when they’re at that stage, it’s not murder when they’re not alive. If something that isn’t alive is interfering with someone, why should it matter. That’s my argument.
Your argument is illogical. People who are in a coma don’t know what’s going on but we know it’s not right to kill them so the same can be said of a fetus. A fetus is a growing human so it must be alive.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 The whole "staying pregnant against her will" argument is less an argument about the value of life, and more about the selfishness of the mother. Would it not be murder to let a baby die of neglect because it "inconvenienced" the mother, or "caused mental stress" to take care of it? What separates the baby in the womb, who has a heartbeat, limbs, face, separate blood type and other qualities found in humans, made from the DNA of both a mother and father, from that of a newborn; or even any other human? All are human beings, all have value.
The CBC pushed for vaccines to be coerced into our organs just to be free in Canada with how they selected their "news" either by omitting or endorsing their views.
According constitution of western countries which includes human rights, you are not allowed to threat different gender in different way. If you do that you have committed a crime. It's written in law. All people have the same rights. According to human rights everyone has a say if they want and when they want to have children. Nobody can make their decision against another's will. So that law means men as well. Every men have right to have say. My body, my rights. If woman tricks a man by getting pregnant (committing a sexual assault) it's crime. If you make up your own laws and not respect our common law, it loses it's meaning. Then you can also say men can rape women or it isn't even rape because women want children and they should just avoid contacts with men with them they don't wanna have sex. So if you believe human rights, respect them without any excuses.
@Zuma Zuma, I understand your point but I would not force a woman to give birth although she has not used protection. I think it would be better to allow still her a second opinion if she is ready.
Since typically a woman can only get pregnant 1x year and men could get several women pregnant just do the math “this must be the math that the Florida Governor Ron Desantis is banning “ because he could get 365 women pregnant technically. So, Why not just have every male undergo a vasectomy from age 13 and up, until he is mature, responsible and financially able and with a consenting partner to have a child. Then all would be free to have sex without getting pregnant. Win, win! Taking away a woman’s voice and choice on her reproductive rights, or access to contraception and forcing her to bare a child IS intact the way men use to control women.
Laws are broken all the time and nothing is done about it. Do you know how many rapists get away with what they do? My friend was raped. She has to go to school with the same guy, nothing has been done except probation. She was abused as well.
@@jeep1927 She did a good job in the starting 70%. And the pro choice arguments are very solid. But she branched into social justice which was off topic, and are based on different arguments. I think its called intersectionality (?) and i think its a bad strategy.
@@jeep1927 Yes, the reality of abortion is a turn-off to any moral creature, if they knew what it is. They only focus on it long enough to get people to support the term, and then cover it up with euphemisms like "right to choose" "woman's rights" "reproductive health" and other fluff terms that hide the atrocity that abortion is.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 That is like saying if you feel disgusted with robbery, no one is forcing you to rob anyone. Science proves that life starts at conception. Literally 98% of all biologists agree. Since life starts at conception, to purposely end that life is in fact murder, and we all agree that murdering innocent life is wrong. Therefore abortion is wrong and we all should stand up against it.
Gosh that's so stupid. We want to live the life that we want. And, if there are repercussions and consequences, then we should protest. Viva la vida! Yeah, I'm free as it goes... Yeah
First off, a fetus doesn’t know what’s happening. Aborting isn’t murder when they’re not alive. Second off, people get raped or pushed into having sex. Also, I want to mention that sex doesn’t feel good for women. It’s not something women are doing out of the fact that they like sex a lot, it’s probably just to please the man.
Dear CBC, Journalism 101, look up the latin term "par condicio" and see if you are even minimally respecting that principle on these issues. I'm not kidding, you are failing at the very basics of journalism and as a crown corp. you should even have a higher sensitivity to it. You've managed to alienate a significant part of Canadian taxpayers and time and again have shown yourself unable to correct your course. You should be de-funded and turned into a bare bones news agency. Will you even bother to give the other side of the story from a universal human rights perspective based on the first right to life? No you won't. You're not a journalistic enterprise and you know it.
You also have the right to Not have sex. Nobody ever brings this up, I wonder how much peer pressure has to do with getting contraceptives.. I understand women use it for other needs as regulating their periods. I just feel it shouldn't be that easy if you are under 18. I don't agree when individuals say that underage kids should have easy access because they will have sex either way.. well that's their choice they will have to deal with being pregnant.. I feel we are almost promoting it.. maybe we shouldn't be so progressive about everything 🤔 like I said before, you can choose to not have sex don't ever let a guy or girl pressure or force you to have sex.. maybe be a little responsible so you can wait to share that stuff with someone you truly love and not what your friends or celebrities tell you to do... abortions are no laughing matter.. you should look up the aftermath of that stuff... 🤮😵🥴
You really need to understand the topic a bit more. People don’t have the correct education. Sex Ed is often not taught, or improperly taught. Kids don’t understand what they’re doing. Kids are peer pressured into having sex, which can’t be resolved by just “don’t let peer pressure got to you” it’s a serious topic that women have to go through a lot, and is not okay. We need better education in sex, and we need abortion to be accepted, as many factors come into someone getting pregnant, as wrong education, peer pressure, rape, ect.
Sexual responsibility is that of the individual. Acquiring contraceptives is the responsibility of a man and woman who wish to engage in sexual intercourse without procreation. Embarrassment is no excuse. The fear of exposure is no excuse. Advocating for ones own relationship is the couple's responsibility. Abortion SHOULD NOT be an option. Abortion is homicide.
@Adam Hillier yes. Castrate the rapist, adopt the child. Compensate the victim. But protect human life. In my world view, a rapist who deserves death, a rape that is ultimate tragedy, is not resolved with another murder.
@@jpdevito Pregnancy is not a trivial issue to be dolled out as responsibility. It's has serious life and health altering consequences. You can't violate bodily autonomy of one individual to save life of another.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 Murdering your unborn child is not a trivial issue. It has serious life and health altering consequences. You can't tear a baby limb from limb to save the mental state of another person.
It’s not as easy as you think, you’re really stupid aren’t you? Fetus have no feelings and don’t know what’s happening, it’s basically not alive. So why put someone in pain for a thing that isn’t even alive really?
It’s not even alive, a fetus is a ball of cells that has no feelings, no empathy, and it doesn’t even know what’s going on around them. That’s the truth. So if you want to ruin someone else’s life because something un alive is bothering them, then you’re sick.
Fortunately, the re-criminalisation of abortion in Canada through legislative and/or judicial means will never see the light of day. Evidently, abortion has long remained a 'proverbial' third-rail of Canadian politics.
@@AdamtheGrey02 not killing if it’s not alive. It’s a fetus that has no empathy, no feelings, and doesn’t know what’s happening. It doesn’t hurt the fetus as it’s not alive.
@@aldubm2234 Every time one of you says they're not alive tells me you know nothing about basic biology of human development especially when you push those qualities across the board through all 9 months of a human fetus. If they're not alive they can't grow and develop. One's degree of awareness doesn't make them more or less human. Premature babies and newborns have less awareness and no empathy but do you call them less human. Nope. You can't be consistent because your logic is flawed.
So, you think that killing little persons that cannot yet express their opinion but they still suffer the same pain when you butcher them as you would also feel, .... THAT IS A RIGHT? What is wrong with you? If you don't want babies, don't make them. There are plenty of contraceptive methods that avoid conception. But if you got pregnant, assume your RESPONSIBILITY! You don´t only have rights, you know. If you kill a pedestrian with your car, from your fault, you suffer consequences, because when you get behind the wheel, you assume responsibility.
1. If abortion is murder then choosing not to donate your blood/organs is murder as well. 2. Yes pro choice is a human right cuz you can't violate bodily autonomy of one individual to save life of another. 3. Unfortunately no contraceptive is 100% effective. 4. Pregnancy is not a trivial issue that can be dolled out as responsibility. It has serious life and health altering consequences. 5. Two problems with your analogy A. No one will force that irresponsible driver to give away their blood/organs to save the life of victim. B. The embryo/ foetus/unborn child didn't have any prior consent of that women to get themselves implanted and sustain themselves on her body. Hell they didn't even have the prior consent for conception(using the woman's physiology). Thus they are trespasses.
Have a child is expensive every. It becoming a luxury on the rich can afford.
population ageing is the keys why your living expenses become high
Dr. Morgentaler faced the Supreme Court three times to fight abortion laws. The Court has also heard challenges to the rights of the fetus and the rights of the father since. It was declared neither supersede the woman's right to Security of the Person. The last time the law was challenged through Parliament, the Senate upheld the current (lack of) law by a tie. Conservatives are the only political party that allow candidates to follow their conscience on the matter. All other parties in Canada hold with current laws, and expect members of Parliament to vote along party lines. In theory, a pregnant person of any age can seek an abortion for any reason. In practice, this is not actually the case, as every province, and some health care providers impose their own regulation to some extent.
I think the organisation misses the "Human rights" of the murdered lifes, that doesn't appear to have any or very little value to pro-abortion and reproductive rights people. I lost my nephew at birth due to complications and mistakes by doctors at child-birth, I held him with his body dead in my arms, he was a human being, now he is in heaven more like an angel.
You can't violate someone's bodily autonomy to secure right to life of others.
And by the way sorry to hear about your loss.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 Bodily autonomy was never violated. If you have intercourse, expect a child, regardless of whatever precautions you take. It's only natural that the sole means of human procreation results in procreation. When a woman aborts her baby, she is violating the bodily autonomy of the baby, which in 99% of cases, she consented to having, explicitly or implicitly, through her actions, knowing it was a possibility, however small.
In the case that it was done against her will, does that devalue a life? Indeed, prosecute the father of the baby for committing crimes against her, but do not kill the baby, as the baby did nothing wrong, and has equal value to that of a baby conceived in a consenting environment.
The bodily autonomy claim is a lie. Total nonsense.
It’s not murder when a fetus isn’t alive. It’s a being that doesn’t know what’s going on. It’s a bit different when they’re older and further along in the pregnancy. Sorry for your loss, but don’t perpetuate your feelings onto others and force them into something that’ll ruin their lives.
@@aldubm2234 Go on, tell me when life starts. All aside from either birth or conception is arbitrary. And if you don't see an 8 month old baby as a living human, then you're already lost. Life begins at conception, and it is a living human being at the smallest stage. Babies don't ruin lives, but regret for poor decisions does.
Theres a difference between wages and earnings.
Nicely said on that part about the aunt and uncle and the importance of privacy.
So I'm a USA citizen and I feel that we end up following Canada's trends often. In Canada when does abortion become illegal and when does the right of the parents request life saving treatments of their micro premie(s) become legal? I have a feeling those 2 have a connection, maybe even a political one. USA will be sure to follow. I've seen premies being denied of care after just for being born after 22 weeks in Canada. Apparently those children would have been cared for if born after 23 weeks.
Not one good argument for abortion being legal in this video. I haven’t heard one yet.
Babies don’t know what’s going on when they’re at that stage, it’s not murder when they’re not alive. If something that isn’t alive is interfering with someone, why should it matter. That’s my argument.
Your argument is illogical. People who are in a coma don’t know what’s going on but we know it’s not right to kill them so the same can be said of a fetus. A fetus is a growing human so it must be alive.
People in the comments are awful. Pro-abortion is also pro-life.
@@aldubm2234 Yes, do not speak of the victim of AR's.
Go and watch "Unplanned". It is in Theaters Starting July 12 for 1 week. Watch it and learn what so many people have been trying to show you.
what happened to both sides. Why aren't you requesting a movie about the other side?
No one is forcing you to abort your child. But you have to understand that you can't force someone to stay pregnant against their will
@@rajashashankgutta4334 why is it okay to kill the baby against their will?
@@rajashashankgutta4334 The whole "staying pregnant against her will" argument is less an argument about the value of life, and more about the selfishness of the mother. Would it not be murder to let a baby die of neglect because it "inconvenienced" the mother, or "caused mental stress" to take care of it?
What separates the baby in the womb, who has a heartbeat, limbs, face, separate blood type and other qualities found in humans, made from the DNA of both a mother and father, from that of a newborn; or even any other human? All are human beings, all have value.
@@researchbothsidesequally4481 it’s a fetus, not a baby. They don’t understand what’s going on at that age, so they’re basically not alive.
What this video refers to are deproductive rights, not "reproductive" rights. It's about the right to not reproduce when pregnant.
This was well said and hoping that I can share this with all men and women in America as the Supreme Court just rolled back Roe V Wade.
They haven't yet but it sounds like terrific news when they do. 🙂
One life at a time
Women are not paid less for the same work
Not true
Did you just call pregnancy a disease? What is wrong with you?
She mentioned it but as a health issue. Not disease. Who assists a pregnant mom?? You should know
Pregnancy is not a disease but still it's a health issue.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 "Go beyond this idea of curing a sickness" is implying pregnancy is a sickness. You are disgusting.
Thanks Meghan Doherty for sharing your perspective and your hopes for the future,
And to CBC for producing these videos. :)
The CBC needs to be defunded, completely.
The CBC pushed for vaccines to be coerced into our organs just to be free in Canada with how they selected their "news" either by omitting or endorsing their views.
@@AdamtheGrey02 They said it was safe for pregnant women. Studies by the manufacturers suggest otherwise.
According constitution of western countries which includes human rights, you are not allowed to threat different gender in different way. If you do that you have committed a crime. It's written in law. All people have the same rights. According to human rights everyone has a say if they want and when they want to have children. Nobody can make their decision against another's will. So that law means men as well. Every men have right to have say. My body, my rights. If woman tricks a man by getting pregnant (committing a sexual assault) it's crime. If you make up your own laws and not respect our common law, it loses it's meaning. Then you can also say men can rape women or it isn't even rape because women want children and they should just avoid contacts with men with them they don't wanna have sex. So if you believe human rights, respect them without any excuses.
@Zuma Zuma, I understand your point but I would not force a woman to give birth although she has not used protection. I think it would be better to allow still her a second opinion if she is ready.
Since typically a woman can only get pregnant 1x year and men could get several women pregnant just do the math “this must be the math that the Florida Governor Ron Desantis is banning “ because he could get 365 women pregnant technically. So, Why not just have every male undergo a vasectomy from age 13 and up, until he is mature, responsible and financially able and with a consenting partner to have a child. Then all would be free to have sex without getting pregnant. Win, win!
Taking away a woman’s voice and choice on her reproductive rights, or access to contraception and forcing her to bare a child IS intact the way men use to control women.
Laws are broken all the time and nothing is done about it. Do you know how many rapists get away with what they do? My friend was raped. She has to go to school with the same guy, nothing has been done except probation. She was abused as well.
Beautiful voice
The voice of a demon is known to seduce.
@@mengoinggodsway9024 you’re sick.
@@aldubm2234 You are fetid.
Women are not paid less for the same work. Stop the fake news.
In my opinion, you lose people when you diverge as far from the topic as you did in the last third of the video.
The best way to present abortion as morally acceptable is to get off topic as quickly as possible.
@@jeep1927 She did a good job in the starting 70%. And the pro choice arguments are very solid. But she branched into social justice which was off topic, and are based on different arguments.
I think its called intersectionality (?) and i think its a bad strategy.
@@philipaubin4679 which of these pro choice argument do you find effective?
@@jeep1927 Yes, the reality of abortion is a turn-off to any moral creature, if they knew what it is. They only focus on it long enough to get people to support the term, and then cover it up with euphemisms like "right to choose" "woman's rights" "reproductive health" and other fluff terms that hide the atrocity that abortion is.
Everyone should watch "unplanned"
Pro choice is different from pro abortion.
If you feel disgusted by abortion, then no one is forcing you to abort your foetus/embryo/unborn child.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 That is like saying if you feel disgusted with robbery, no one is forcing you to rob anyone.
Science proves that life starts at conception. Literally 98% of all biologists agree. Since life starts at conception, to purposely end that life is in fact murder, and we all agree that murdering innocent life is wrong. Therefore abortion is wrong and we all should stand up against it.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 If you feel disgusted by murder, no one is forcing you to murder your baby. Just let other people murder their babies!
Gosh that's so stupid. We want to live the life that we want. And, if there are repercussions and consequences, then we should protest. Viva la vida! Yeah, I'm free as it goes... Yeah
First off, a fetus doesn’t know what’s happening. Aborting isn’t murder when they’re not alive. Second off, people get raped or pushed into having sex. Also, I want to mention that sex doesn’t feel good for women. It’s not something women are doing out of the fact that they like sex a lot, it’s probably just to please the man.
Dear CBC,
Journalism 101, look up the latin term "par condicio" and see if you are even minimally respecting that principle on these issues.
I'm not kidding, you are failing at the very basics of journalism and as a crown corp. you should even have a higher sensitivity to it. You've managed to alienate a significant part of Canadian taxpayers and time and again have shown yourself unable to correct your course. You should be de-funded and turned into a bare bones news agency.
Will you even bother to give the other side of the story from a universal human rights perspective based on the first right to life?
No you won't. You're not a journalistic enterprise and you know it.
You also have the right to Not have sex. Nobody ever brings this up, I wonder how much peer pressure has to do with getting contraceptives.. I understand women use it for other needs as regulating their periods. I just feel it shouldn't be that easy if you are under 18. I don't agree when individuals say that underage kids should have easy access because they will have sex either way.. well that's their choice they will have to deal with being pregnant.. I feel we are almost promoting it.. maybe we shouldn't be so progressive about everything 🤔 like I said before, you can choose to not have sex don't ever let a guy or girl pressure or force you to have sex.. maybe be a little responsible so you can wait to share that stuff with someone you truly love and not what your friends or celebrities tell you to do... abortions are no laughing matter.. you should look up the aftermath of that stuff... 🤮😵🥴
You really need to understand the topic a bit more. People don’t have the correct education. Sex Ed is often not taught, or improperly taught. Kids don’t understand what they’re doing. Kids are peer pressured into having sex, which can’t be resolved by just “don’t let peer pressure got to you” it’s a serious topic that women have to go through a lot, and is not okay. We need better education in sex, and we need abortion to be accepted, as many factors come into someone getting pregnant, as wrong education, peer pressure, rape, ect.
@@aldubm2234 abortions are often coerced by male partners. Coercion is abuse and abortion is murder and damages the body of the woman who does it.
This is killing
Not killing. It’s a fetus that has no feelings or empathy, so it’s really not alive.
Sexual responsibility is that of the individual.
Acquiring contraceptives is the responsibility of a man and woman who wish to engage in sexual intercourse without procreation.
Embarrassment is no excuse.
The fear of exposure is no excuse.
Advocating for ones own relationship is the couple's responsibility.
Abortion SHOULD NOT be an option.
Abortion is homicide.
@Adam Hillier yes.
Castrate the rapist, adopt the child.
Compensate the victim.
But protect human life.
In my world view, a rapist who deserves death, a rape that is ultimate tragedy, is not resolved with another murder.
@@jpdevito
Pregnancy is not a trivial issue to be dolled out as responsibility. It's has serious life and health altering consequences.
You can't violate bodily autonomy of one individual to save life of another.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 Murdering your unborn child is not a trivial issue. It has serious life and health altering consequences. You can't tear a baby limb from limb to save the mental state of another person.
It’s not as easy as you think, you’re really stupid aren’t you? Fetus have no feelings and don’t know what’s happening, it’s basically not alive. So why put someone in pain for a thing that isn’t even alive really?
This is a good example of what propaganda is.
What about human rights of the aborted children?
You can't violate bodily autonomy of an individual to save life of other.
It’s not even alive, a fetus is a ball of cells that has no feelings, no empathy, and it doesn’t even know what’s going on around them. That’s the truth. So if you want to ruin someone else’s life because something un alive is bothering them, then you’re sick.
Fortunately, the re-criminalisation of abortion in Canada through legislative and/or judicial means will never see the light of day. Evidently, abortion has long remained a 'proverbial' third-rail of Canadian politics.
I will work to change that.
@@mengoinggodsway9024 That will never happen, at least for the foreseeable future.
@@albertcalleros9489 Things can change quickly, and I'm willing to take radical steps to ensure that goal is met.
@@mengoinggodsway9024 HEAVEN FORBID!
@@albertcalleros9489 Heaven forbid baby murder remain legal!
Thank you for giving reproductive justice a platform, CBC!
While the unborn are considered as relevant as a cigarette butt.
Can hear the man hate in the voice
@@katelock1392 Education? More like indoctrination , gender wage gap is a contrived myth
I hear the utter hatred of God and all that is good in the voice.
No man hate, just facts. Wage gap is a little up to propaganda.
Hopefully we can abolish abortion in Canada.
You're wrong
I’m wrong about what?
When is it ok to kill a baby in the womb?
@@yotuba9493 He's what I would call someone who values life at all stages instead of practicing a form of bigotry on the unborn just to kill them.
@@AdamtheGrey02 not killing if it’s not alive. It’s a fetus that has no empathy, no feelings, and doesn’t know what’s happening. It doesn’t hurt the fetus as it’s not alive.
@@aldubm2234 Every time one of you says they're not alive tells me you know nothing about basic biology of human development especially when you push those qualities across the board through all 9 months of a human fetus. If they're not alive they can't grow and develop. One's degree of awareness doesn't make them more or less human. Premature babies and newborns have less awareness and no empathy but do you call them less human. Nope. You can't be consistent because your logic is flawed.
nah
So, you think that killing little persons that cannot yet express their opinion but they still suffer the same pain when you butcher them as you would also feel, .... THAT IS A RIGHT? What is wrong with you? If you don't want babies, don't make them. There are plenty of contraceptive methods that avoid conception. But if you got pregnant, assume your RESPONSIBILITY! You don´t only have rights, you know. If you kill a pedestrian with your car, from your fault, you suffer consequences, because when you get behind the wheel, you assume responsibility.
1. If abortion is murder then choosing not to donate your blood/organs is murder as well.
2. Yes pro choice is a human right cuz you can't violate bodily autonomy of one individual to save life of another.
3. Unfortunately no contraceptive is 100% effective.
4. Pregnancy is not a trivial issue that can be dolled out as responsibility. It has serious life and health altering consequences.
5. Two problems with your analogy
A. No one will force that irresponsible driver to give away their blood/organs to save the life of victim.
B. The embryo/ foetus/unborn child didn't have any prior consent of that women to get themselves implanted and sustain themselves on her body. Hell they didn't even have the prior consent for conception(using the woman's physiology). Thus they are trespasses.
The CBC and many liberals are evil, simplest answer I can provide.
People get raped or pushed into having sex. Also a fetus isn’t alive when it doesn’t understand what’s going on around them or feel any emotion/pain.
Awful!