Michael is a cable skeptic running big Klipschorns, tube amps, Schiit and more
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When I first heard the Klipschorns it changed the forever the way I thought about sound reproduction, I was spellbound .I have owned my Khorns now for 39 years and they still inspire me with music reality and emotion.The world sounds better thanks to Paul Klipsch.
One of the saddest days of my life was having to sell my Klipschorns that I had owned for 25 years. I had bought a new home, large, open floor plan with high a cathedral ceiling on a beautiful site with a grand view of Lake Ontario. Only a couple hundred feet away and the house was up about 150 feet from the water. I know, I know, I digress. The only problem was there was only ONE corner suitable for a Kipschorn. If I was deaf in one ear I would have put one there and run it in mono and been as good as good could be. But no, both ears worked quite well. I REALLY wanted that house and also REALLY wanted the corner horns too! I couldn't even find a good place for Cornwalls. DAMNIT!
In the end the house won out. But I couldn't bear selling the Klipschorns. The large garage was finished and very dry so I stored them in it for two years until I could let them go. Called a local Klipsch dealer who came out. took a quick look and made me a very good offer, MORE than I paid for them originally, of course. They came back later in the day with a big van and moving quilts, gave me a check, loaded them up and drove away. I poured a generous Irish Whiskey on the rocks and sat on the deck, looking out over the lake. The awful choices one sometimes has to make in this life...
In the late 1970’s, Speakerlab was selling speaker kits and they also offered the plans to build their version of the Klipschorn. My friend Jack’s Father-in-law had a large shop and we went there every Saturday or Sunday and spent an afternoon building our pair of folded corner horns.
We used six sheets of marine grade plywood to make the two parts of each speaker.
The speakers came out very nicely. They were good copies and most likely not quite as impressive as true Paul Klipsch Factory KHorns but very good none the less.
For Jack and I it was a excellent project for two friends to enjoy building together. THAT was where the real value and quality of our efforts was of highest value.
Wow, Speakerlab! My 2 friends & I built 2 pairs of speakers using their plans. I know at least 1 pair is still in use to this day 40+ years later.
I remember those kits. Happy to hear you have fond memories of the project.
In 2006 I built two pair of the SpeakerLab K.
I'm listening to my homemade speakerlab bottom cabinets with this video. 35 years ago.
This guy gets it. I bought the 70th Anniversary KHorns 2+ years ago and it was the greatest decision I have ever made in my audio journey. Speakerwise in that system which is my primary Music/HT system I am done. Have zero desire to ever buy a different Stereo pair. 3 way fully loaded horns are simply stunning, especially these. Mine are the same with the closed back except Michael's AK6 model has a new tweeter, internal wiring and other minor improvements. The 70th is sort of a AK5.5 model. A year later I got matching pair of 70th Edition Heresy's and use 1 as Center Channel and the other as a Center Rear channel when playing movies or SACD. I listen to music only in 3CH Stereo and it's awesome, passive or DSP it's all good. Meridian's Trifield, Ambisonic UHJ and other 3CH logic DSP modes they have for music are simply amazing. It's even fun turning on the center rear for ambiance or for discrete when listening to 5.1 SACDs with a mono rear, makes it sound like you are just enveloped in a personal band playing just for you at the highest fidelity. Glad to see some KHorns on the channel! Keep up the great work Steve.
Emil Serafino just need to refinance your home to buy them
$12,000 for a pair is not much in hi-end audiophile terms. Much more expensive stuff out there. For what the Klipschorns do they may be considered a bargain.
They are the best, if you got enough room. You need at least 3 meters between them and 1,5 meters on the sides of them to let them breath and sing. You will have to take care in order to get the right bass-sound out of them. A DSP is recommended by some to get it right. Have clean hard surface drywalls around so the sound can reflect alongside the walls and extend the corners onward with the sidewalls as elongated part of the speakers cabinet. Read the Dope from Hope from Paul Klipsch. When in doubt call Volti Audio, not Klipsch support. Many of the friendly people there just haven't got the experience with acoustics when it comes to the horns. Clean hard walls, enough space and not overdamped listening-rooms.
Thanks for yet another great vid, Steve. Your interview vids and the ones where you show people’s systems are by far my favorite ones. I of course love all your vids, but those are my favorites. Many thanks for all your hard work and vast knowledge of audio in general. 🎶🔊🙂
That cable topic sure hurt Steve. I’ve never seen such a bad ending. “I think we’re done here”. Lol!!!
That snake oil line was like a dagger to the heart! ;D
Love the K-Horns. Heard them back in the mid-70's at ListenUp in Denver. Never forgot them. Thanks Michael for the bump.
Great video as usual. It's always interesting to hear others opinions about audio and see their equipment.
Klipschorns are what got me into audio systems back in the 70s. I have never had a place I could have a pair but maybe one day!
Cool equipment stack. Love the pragmatic approach to what cables can contribute to a system.
Great interview Steve. Classic Klipch are superb. I've only really spent time with the smaller models and would love to spend time with these.
I'm with Michael on the cables - they need to be well made with good joints and connectors, and suited to the task. Nothing more.
Fantastic video, Steve! As always
Nice K-horns! I dig most all of the klipsch heritage loudspeakers..and wish I'd hung on to some of mine.....I would like to have heard more of Michael's story and seen more of his room. Thanks for the vids, Steve!
Klipschorns sound absolutely sublime in an accommodating room with triode tubesets
Michael is very right when he speaks about the pure physics of cable quality and termination, but I'm not sure he's a skeptic. About 25 years ago I scored a 1000' reel of very nice 16 ga zip cord. Very good copper wire with very good heat resistant insulation. Stripped properly (no nicks) and silver soldered I've found it to be entirely satisfying.
IMHO This is one of the best and most practical systems so far. Michael pays attention to physics - mostly. The "problem" with Klipshorns is phasing between drivers. This can be overcome by using active crossovers, delays, and bi-amping or tri-amping. The time difference required between the low and midrange/high almost precludes using an analog delay. So the best solution is to invest in ADC, DSP, and multiple DACs. The DSP includes the crossovers and delays. Fortunately, FPGAs allow excellent DSP to be created with very long FIR filters.
I've loved Klipshorns ever since my college days in the '70s. I was able to get a hold of original Electro-Voice plans, and got them to a friend of mine who had excellent woodworking skills. He built a pair for himself and another mutual friend. They were both electrical engineering students and wound up being room mates. They used to throw outdoor dances with "corners" added to the backs of the speakers. They stored the speakers in their dorm room, two stacked in two corners. During dead week in the spring, one of the friends, who coincidentally was dorm president, opened the windows, put on an album, cranked up the amps, locked the door, and left. The whole quad was treated to substantial music.
It looks like Steve tased a man who has barricaded himself in his apartment.
Hahaha ..... true
Funny comment. Maybe caught him in the back room with the stuff he didn’t get to yet. 😂😂😂
Father Larsathon hahahaha
I wish I were barricaded-in with gear like that!
It reminds me of the early VCR with cable remote ! Enjoyable interview .
Hot n Salty oh man, I had one of those, a Sharp, back in 1981, thirty foot long cable remote!
Thank you Steave great interview 👍
That was fun to watch and listen to...thanks!
I've owned my Klipschorns for 40 years now and to this day they are the only speaker that sounds like real live music to me. It was love at first sight. or maybe sound!
Almost 40 years for me with Klipschorns as well ,they changed everything I thought about in audio reproduction and how real it can sound. A life time of musical bliss is priceless. Paul Klipsch did make the perfect speaker.
Great video, as usual! That EAR preamp is visually stunning... must sound incredible in the chain with those killer Klipschorns. Like many audio enthusiasts, I wish I had the opportunity to actually listen to the many purportedly great speakers that exist. Not that I can afford them due to major medical debt, but it would be nice to hear speakers that blow away what I currently have in my systems throughout the house - mainly Magnepan MG12/QR, Polk Audio Monitor 10B, JBL Studio 530, and KEF Q100. I cannot image how great those Klipschorns must sound!
Very good interview!
Love these chats.
Back in the 1970s, I went to a party at some guy's house who had a pair of Klipschorns. My jaw dropped to the floor because I had never heard music sound so good before or since. Every jazz record he played sounded like the band was performing right in the room.
At one point he asked for requests. Since I was a huge Beatles fan, I asked for some. He rolled his eyes and said disparagingly, "No,and I don't have any Monkeys albums either."
I immediately realized my mistake and said, "I was just kidding! Do you have any more Brubeck?"
This guy has a great voice. I want to hear him read an audiobook. Preferably sword and magic fantasy.
2:36 explains it best. When a system/speaker allows you to capture a "live" feeling with the dimension and spatial reproduction, it's magical
Amazing video. Would be incredible to hear these beautiful pieces of art.
What a privilege it would be to own a pair...
Glad he mentioned Paul designed the Jubilee. I have mine in a 18x13 living room, and they sound great...
I hear Michael saying a 402 is overkill for home use. I have 402-Jubscalas, which is basically a 402 on top of a La Scala bass bin. Those big horns definitely work in normal sized living rooms. Paired with a pair of horn loaded subs, never heard anything like that in any hifi store...
My son built a 15 inch horn loaded sub from plans from fritz? Way overkill. My 12inch sub compliments my homemade Khorn fine.
Man, would love to hear this system. I’ve heard some EAR kit and it sounds wonderful
Nice bloke, very good interview. Thanks Steve.
9:07 "I don't believe in cables" Steve: "OK, I think my work is done here"
I didn't know A.J. Conti died. I used to visit him in Nashua; a kind and talented man. I'm stunned and very sad. RIP A.J.
I agree with the late Paul Klipsch on two things at least: 3 channel audio is the way to go and the Klipschhorn is about as perfect a speaker as can be made for home use.
Truly, obviously, there is no way to fully say that one speaker is perfect or even better than another, but the Klipschorns are the speakers that most impress me over the last 40+ years. I've heard some big, crazy expensive speakers and I still like the K horns the most.
Three channel audio is new to me. What are the advantages over two channel?
A good two channel system makes a perfectly good soundstage or center image, so I don't understand how adding a center speaker would be that much better?
@@HareDeLune The illusion of soundstage/3D image that is produced by stereo is "fragile" and easily broken when listeners move their heads, even a tiny bit - something everyone does unconsciously for their brains to be better able to pinpoint the source of sounds. It's true that you can get a perfect image with a good stereo system, but it works best if you stay completely still. When "3D" sound was first being explored by RCA in the 30s (I think this is true, but I haven't seen the papers for myself, so maybe it's audiophile urban legend) they determined that the fewest number of speakers needed to produce and maintain a good image was 3. In tests they found that the illusion improved all the way up to 12 speakers placed across a stage, but that 3 did a sufficient job of holding an image, even when a person moved around a little. Maybe it's the speakers outnumbering your ears? Whatever it is, with just 2 channels, the illusion of something making sound 15 feet ahead of you and 2 feet to the left while staying very still, suddenly sounds like it's coming from 2 points as soon as you move, or turn your head. I guess it's just way harder for our ears and brain to figure out when it's coming from 3 points. Interestingly, the effect does not absolutely require a 3 channel recording. It can actually be achieved quite effectively by merely creating a 3rd channel electronically that's made of only the common elements of the left and right signal, and playing that synthesized channel in between them. I do believe there were many preamplifiers, and maybe even some receivers, that offered that synthesized channel in the early days of multi-channel audio. I seem to remember seeing that option on some early 60s McIntosh preamps. I think a lot of experimenters tried 3 channel in the late 50s and early 60s before stereo became the standard.
Also very interesting to me; I also heard that they determined that the best, most practical 3D image could be achieved quite easily with a 5 channel system consisting of a Left, Right, Center, Rear and Height. That is, if I'm not mistaken, almost what the original Dolby Surround for home audio was. I don't know, but it seems like that was what they did in theaters for a long time, possibly without the height channel, which has finally come to home audio and maybe theaters too, with Dolby Atmos. It's just fascinating to me that engineers at RCA were figuring this out in the 1930s, if it's true.
@@AndyBHome
Thanks very much!
I presume one needs a special three channel amp to achieve this?
That's a thing from the good old days when they used the old horns in large listening-rooms. Like in hotels, entrances, conference centers and such. To cover the center "hole" they put in the Heresy. I have never tried it.
But I have listened to the K-horns in smaller rooms and there you don't need this arrangement. But never the less I have seen pictures with K-horns in small living-rooms with the La Scala as a center speaker. Crazy stuff, but seem to like the set up since they insist that they wan't to get buried in one of the units...
@@HareDeLune Before stereo became the standard there were really only mono amps anyway. People wanting to do stereo bought another amp and speaker to add to their existing amp and speaker. If you wanted to do 3 channels, you bought two more amps and speakers. I suppose anyone could still do that today. I guess the question is where to get a preamp that can take the stereo signals and make a third channel for the middle. It's something I am really tempted to try.
This was amazing, wish you all could have talked longer. Very interesting.
Paul Klipsch " What the world needs is a good 5-watt amplifier."
Bill Gates said 640K RAM is all anyone would ever need
@@chrism1236
....who's that now?
;-)
@@chrism1236 gates was right
I have had Altec Lansing Model 19's for about 20 years. They are big and they sound great. B4 that I had Magnapan, Ohm. and several other "audiophile speakers but was never happy. Big speakers with big woofers just make a difference to me. The sound stage is huge. I don't sit around trying to find something wrong because I just plain enjoy my 19's.
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Well said. Too many focus on replacing caps etc rather than just kicking back and enjoying the sound.
I heard these beautiful speakers in 1977 in Dallas and once at friends in 2000 & they are my DREAM Speaker! I've never had a home (other than my parents,) so I've never attempted to own them, but if there is a Heaven (doubt it) I'll have a pair there.
Sell your car, buy them now, if you got big enough room.
I work for a high end audio shop we have the Klipschorn at the entrance they are not for sale.Sometimes we plug them and then the magic come!
You gotta love this hobby. How manny reviewers trashed analog and horn speakers. Times have changed.
Most people are in "group think" mode leading to regurgitating assertions about horns, direct drive turntables, single ended tube amps etc.
@@vncstudio How many people have the experience to really know. Not many.
@@UberPilot Folks seem to be keeping speakers 3 feet apart in an untreated room full of clutter and then complaining that their system does not work. Common sense would dictate that this is doomed to fail.
Great system. Seems like a great guy.
Klipschorns, EAR, CAT; living the dream. 👍👍👍
There is a demo video of the Klipschorns called "Ladies and Gentlemem: The Klipschorn". You can hear the amazing detail in the treble and rich meds and the weight of the bass of these speakers (even on TH-cam).
For all of you wondering about the pizza joint..
www.timeout.com/los-angeles/news/theres-a-hidden-cocktail-bar-and-hi-fi-lounge-in-this-arts-district-pizza-parlor-082018
The K-horns there have upgraded crossovers and drivers from Bob Crites in Arkansas.
Also, I will argue the merits of 16 gauge wire from Radio Shack. Heck, Cat5 even.
Steve needs to talk more about the sound from these speakers. We all know his a fan og Klipsch horns. He said they were effortless in their performance. That's an understatement. They are horn-speakers so they are forward without being tiring. Regardless of what you play they captivate you and give you that amazing listenings-experience. You will never sell them if you manage to get it right in a large enough room with the right kind of acoustics.
I’m admiring his CJ gear:)
I thought it looked like ART
It almost sounds like he is talking about “In Sheep’s Clothing” hifi bar in LA. Zach Cowie is the person mainly responsible for that. I believe he runs a Audio Note system with Klipschorns.
I was thinking the same. Been there a few times. Don't know of another pizza shop/"tea house" (it's a cocktail bar) listening room in LA.
Trevor Brewer They have a great Playlist/s on Spotify and Tidal.. Curator is on point with the selection. Japan’s influence of “listening bars” is a great thing..
As I recall the Heresy was named such due to not being fully horn loaded. The 12 inch woofer was in a sealed cabinet, possibly even air suspension.
The Heresys are not air suspension per se. They are closed back more akin to infinite baffle where the cabinet only provides isolation of the front and back waves. A true acoustic suspension speaker uses woofers with long excursion, high compliance, & low resonance cones mated to a sealed enclosure that provides an acoustic compliance or spring to enhance the woofer response in the lower bass. Acoustic or air suspension designs trade off efficiency for compact size and low frequency output. The Heresy woofer is a high efficiency design driver that requires no enclosure: just a baffle to segregate the front and back of the cone.
I've only ever heard Klipschorns once, back in 1984. I was visiting someone's home briefly, and they were playing in the background. I knew that I was hearing something special, and unlike anything I'd heard before, but i didn't think it was my place to ask about the system. (I was only 18... already an audio nut)... Now, I know better, that if i'd asked the owner for a demo, he probably would have loved to turn it up for me..... what a missed opportunity.
In 3:42 He politely said, "shut up for a moment and let me tell you something"
If I replaced his entire audio rack with my vintage 1977 Sansui 5050, and connected it to his Klipschorns, and played a CD, he wouldn't know that his equipment is missing.
For anyone thinking about getting a set of Klipschorns AK6 please understand that they still do NEED to be either in the corner or in very close proximity to the corner to sound their best. Steve stated they don't need to be in the corner and the Klipsch AK6 owners manual states that they "no longer have to be flush to the corner" but then goes on to say that "the corner still serves as an extension of the low frequency horn." It finishes by stating, "for best results, Klipsch highly recommends the Klipschorn be placed in the proximity of a corner." Yes, the addition of back panels to the K-Horn will allow some minor toe in and location tweaking but they do not in any way eliminate the need for corner placement. Klipsch doesn't set them up any differently at trade shows than they did before and all their product literature still shows them tucked up very close to the corners as they truly need to be. K-Horns are incredibly good speakers but easily the most room dependent (literally) speakers the average person could bring into their homes. You really need a room with two fairly identical corners, preferably with several feet of wall extending out on either side of the speaker. You must also keep in mind that the distance between your rooms corners will determine speaker placement and, subsequently, your seating position. A seating position which almost always sounds best if a foot or more behind where the tweeter and mid horns axis cross. If you are willing to accommodate the speaker and have the room to do so then you will be rewarded with some of the most lifelike, easy and dynamic sound one can get for less than a hundred grand. If you don't have the room or willingness to adjust to the speaker's requirements then they are just pricey paper weights.
I was at a show recently, in a large room by Klipsch, and they didn't place the speakers in the corners. The walls only serve to extend and fill in the mid bass region.The speakers don't have any low bass to speak of even though they are on the large side.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Hey Carlos. Yes, unfortunately at shows things are often compromised and one does not get to hear the equipment at it's best. But your experience makes me wonder if the set up was done by a local dealer or a distributor instead of Klipsch corporate reps. No matter the case, the first two should know better but I've been in a lot of dealers stores over the years and it always surprises me how little effort they put in to trying to make very expensive products sound like they're worth the money. Corporate reps usually do the very best they can even if it's not perfect. Now, as far as the K-Horns not having any bass in the scenario you describe. Yeah, they probably didn't, because they have to be in the corners and they weren't. But no, the absence of walls didn't do much to affect the mid-bass region because the room walls don't serve to extend and fill in mid-bass, they serve to extend the lower frequencies. The K-Horns folded horn section is long enough to support good mid bass without the walls for reinforcement. For low bass the horn and the horn mouth area are not enough to augment the low frequencies without the walls of a room for support. Plus, corner placement boosts bass for any speaker. But, truth be told, those looking for massive bass in the sub -- 35 Hz will be disappointed. The K-Horns even in the best set ups are rated at up to 4 DB down at 33 Hz. Meaning they will begin to roll off sooner than that. In a proper setup they probably won't start to roll off until 40 or so Hz but then drop off sharply. Poor placement could have them start to roll off enough to be noticeable by the 60 to 80 Hz range which would absolutely make them sound lean and give the impression they have no low bass. When everything is done right they have strong (often very strong) bass to at least 40 Hz and usually a bit lower. But as big as it is, believe it or not, the K-Horn is actually too small even with room reinforcement to produce the extremely low frequencies of the bottom octave with authority, if at all. It's just the nature of horn loaded speakers and has nothing to do with Klipsch themselves. Low frequencies need extremely long horn paths and very large mouth openings to work.
Steve ,please review the Klipsch La Scala ,!!
One of my life goals is to own a pair of Klipschorns and having the living space to utilize them.
Build them! That's what I did 35 years ago. Today a guy might be better with a lascala and subwoofer.
The K402 Jubilee was PWK and Roy Delgados design to replace the Klipschorn as PWK wanted to go 2 way. It only went pro after PWK died and before the project was finished, though he did hear earlier versions. Pro was Roy's department for a long time and you're just now starting to see his mark on the home consumer Klipsch speakers that everyones been raving about. The K402 is non fatiguing even in small rooms. They're incredible, though many who own Jubes tend to replace the stock compression drivers with Radian or TAD especially those with beryllium diaphragms but those start to get pricey. I personally heard them in a small room with Radian compression drivers though i forget the model. You'll be ditching passive networks and go active with Jubes, though there are passive crossovers.
As far as the Klipschorn. Closing the backs makes it so much easier to live with. I personally just sold my 74 Klipschorns and still feel sad about it. They're just way too hard to live with without the proper room distance and perfect corners to tuck them tightly into. I lack the woodworking skill or desire to close them in myself. I'm sure the AK6 sounds amazing, but room along with driver time alignment will always be it's two biggest issues. I'm totally happy with my series 1 Klipsch Epic CF-3's and hoping to find the CF-4's. They were Roy's first home design for Klipsch. The world and die hard heritage Klipsch fans just weren't ready for them back in 1994. The series 1 CF-4's are sort of a unicorn of Klipsch speakers outside of pro models all of which Roy's had his hands on. The CF-4 horn lens is now used as the mid horn with updated mumps in the new Cornwall IV, though the CF-4 version was kind of thin and cheaply made. As with all horns, they will benefit from applying something like dynamat to the back of the horns.
Beautiful ML Reference DAC :)
i have the older pair, STILL sound AWSome
Sometimes cables are the best value for money if you are looking for an audible upgrade when you system gets to a certain price point. I swap new cables back and forth a few times with the same few tracks. It is very easy to hear differences. The speaker cables I have literally make the singer sound 2 feet taller and larger, imaging get more pinpoint accurate, and my new cables are tonally cooler sounding than my previous 12 gauge generic speaker cable.
Hi Steve, would like to have seen how the room was setup for both speakers... maybe it didn’t present very well? The overall presentation for such a nice system was a bit ‘underwhelming’ from an aesthetic standpoint. Not your fault though...
Thanks! Been with Klipsch for over 40 years. Bought La Scalas in 1979. They have been wonderful.
I am really surprised to hear you had NOT really heard the K horns until now. They are my favorite for the music I listen to but I had to settle for La Scalas which was an ok compromise. I sold those speakers a decade ago and have yet find a acceptable replacement. Got any suggestions?
5:01 "these are not horny" - Steve Guttenburg 2020
More More More! More of the room (for example) coz it often looks like your only showing half the system and more of the persons story. How often does he listen where’s he sit in his room? It looked like decor was totally sacrificed to his system with a spaghetti of wires although pretty ornate boards. There’s only a taste those times when you really dig in with a guest are great - a mix of backstories, gear, ideas, locations rooms n houses so much more ....please?
I 100% agree on the cable topic... my father was an electrician and said as long as you have the right gage good copper wire and it’s not damaged there’s no way you would be able to hear a difference. That’s not to say you should buy cheaply made wire, no not at all, but buy something durable and well made just don’t spend a million dollars on it... cause that’s just crazy. Most of the sleeves etc are just nice to look at, they do not effect performance.
@Larry Niles Do you believe the worlds is flat and vaccines cause autism too? It's been measured multiple times, cables make absolutely no difference. It's okay to have different opinions but when you opinions have been proven wrong by science your going to sound ridiculous. As he said, From the top 10 cable companies lamp wire made number 4, so if you really believed cables made a difference, and you really cared about having the best soundings one you would either have lamp wire or one of the top 3 costings likely 10s of thousands. If they really do make a difference why can no one differentiate them in a blind test?
@Larry Niles and you are a snake oil drinker ;).
Love seeing that Nonesuch Vivaldi record upfront.
What kind of amplifier would you recommend for my 90's Klipsch forte's?
The EAR is a thing of beauty
What a nice man, interesting! I want to hear him tell me more!!!!
Love these videos..... but that cable running from the guy's mic is more than annoying !!
especially for a guy who doesn't believe in cables...
Wireless mics are easily obtainable these days. Steve, I'm sure your daily shows would greatly benefit & be more appreciated from their inclusion.
7:48 totally agree !!!
I first heard a set of Klipschorn speakers at Kenny's Castaway's on Bleecker Street, they were high up on a platform between the front bar area and the band room. The source music came from a cool jukebox with a lot of great CD's, the amp was a McIntosh MC225. The sound quality blew me away, and I remember thinking how lucky I was to be working the day bar, and playing the great music of my choice for forty plus hours every week.
Wow,I used to hang on Bleecker street back in the 80's! Kenneys Castaways,The Bitter End! The Lions Den on Sullivan The Good old days for sure!
@@gregoryjolly1734 I worked at The Bitter End and The Bottom Line too, back in the '80s and early '90s. We probably met. I lived right off Macdougal and 3rd above Mamoun's.
Yeah The Bottom Line! Great live music there! I used to play with...can't remember his name but was the manager for a little while,he was a monster guitar player! His wife played bass with him,and when she couldn't I would play with him. Yeah we probably ran into each other a few times.
@gregory jolly
Yes!!! Gordon Gaines! He was incredible! I play the Bass and used to love playing with Gordon at like 2 in the morning! Yeah I had heard that he passed away,so sad he was great!
I like mike!
I had the pleasure of hearing the la scala , it’s beyond what I am willing to spend on a pair
Of speakers..
But I cannot deny they sound amazing..
I settled for magnepan
the 1st time i got a bank loan was for a pair of new Electrovoice Interface Cs
Steve,
The offer is still open to come down to listen to my Jubilees.
Dear Steve, I have invited you on THREE occasions to come and hear my Klipschorns with all TUBE gear, but I am sorry that you never seem to venture much out of your city. I am only in your neighboring state (Massachusetts) but, I guess that is just too far away for you via train and arranged transportation (no cost to you) to my home. Disappointed now, but I will still grin and enjoy your video presentations knowing you will NOT be coming by for a cordial visit to my home.... )O:
Go hear the AK6 Khorn at Robyatt Audio in the Poconos!!
Now that's where I want to spend my time during the zombie apocalypse!
My local store and friends have a set of Klipschorns. Those things are insane. They make no sense, my brain will not accept what comes out of these things.
New khorns don't require a corner. That really adds a lot of potential.
What’s the name of this JZ’s place? I can’t find it...anyone have an address? I would like to hear the Klipschorn...
Anyone got any information on how the grills are attached?
He's not a cable skeptic, he doesn't believe in overpriced "boutique" cables..
Perfectly said
Merlin but he talks about his speakers having “better wiring”... doesn’t all wiring sound the same??
@@hifiguy10 That will be on the spec sheet from Klipsch, not necessarily his own opinion.
That's how I see it. However, cables have to have technically correct. I bought a pair of RCA to RCA interconnects off ebay a few weeks ago and they used the sort of lead you have in balanced cables: the treble was rolled off quite a bit; they were in a quad configuration and slightly thinner than my Atlas ones. You have to be careful what you buy and who you buy them from.
I am a long time fan of the K-horns. Just don’t have a room for these monsters. My Heresys will have to do. I would love to hear a pair tri-amped with DSP to time align the drivers. I bet that would truly elevate the K-horns to the level of “perfect speaker”.
Steve, your in-home video’s of our people and their systems are my absolute favorite, among all that you do. Please do more, at least one a week if possible.? Do you ever travel outside metro New York to do them? You should as there’s gobs of great people and content out there. Thanks again for all you do!!
Michael I do as many as I can, thanks. As for traveling to do these videos there is absolutely no budget or time to do that, they have to be local.
I understand. One guy (a friend of a friend who I have never met but hear about) has so much equipment on the second floor of his house that the floors are visibly sagging and his wife divorced him as a result. For whatever reason, there are several audio maniacs in the area. I think it’s a sickness at these levels.
The nice thing about the cornerhorn is you can stack them on top of each other, 2 per corner. It's been done ;~}
That's how I have my 2 pair kg4's. The top speakers are upside down.
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@@Sloimer Think Grateful Dead Wall of Sound from the 70's
Even that Audio moth flying around agrees that the sound is great!!
Yo Steve! Do you have some binaural headphones? Even though it can’t do it justice, it would be great to hear a peek of these cool systems
*microphones not headphones
I always like Klipsch speakers. Also, cablles sound alike all for me, pricey or cheapey
Every time I see Klipschorn's they are in a dinky ass room. Just one time I would like to see, and more importantly hear a pair of K-horns in the Paul Klipsch recommended 20 foot by 30 foot by 10 foot room with a tube amp the size Paul recommended 30 watts per channel.
When I had mine in the basement of the house I built it was 16x30x9. Then in a warehouse that was bigger and higher. But I sold them, never could fall in the love with the tweeters. Even replaced them after a few years with Bob Crites replacement tweeters but still didn't like. I was using $4K of Goertz AG-! flat silver ribbons for cables, I think copper would have been better. I still have and use the VAC Avatar tube amp I used with them. 26 watts triode or 60 ultralinear. I preferred triode.
Heard my first K-Horn (singular) in 1954-55. As a 15 year old, I did not have a particular impression. Later, all through the 70s and 80s, I worked for a dealer and never really "got" them but a dear friend, now passed, had a pair in a large room and they were quite impressive. He drove them with an SS McIntosh MC2300. I don't think I ever saw the needles on the meters deflect. I'm wondering if, at some point and maybe you already have, broached the subject of sharpener/leveler as Bob Deutch did in Stereophile in 2009 www.stereophile.com/writer/107?page=43. Might be a good subject, ehh?
"Don't take it off just yet" lol
Michael couldn't wait to take the mic off, he looked uncomfortable.
Once again, a knowledgeable audiophile who says most expensive speaker cables are snake oil. He is is correct.
Muh cables
Klipschorns are marvelous but Lascallas are my Horn of choice
Dig people who know what they like. Bonus point for sassing the cable people.
Are there any of these "audiophile" bars in NYC? I visited the ones in London, which are great. Wanting to visit the SF one if I am ever there.
Miguel Barrio Which one(s) do you recommend in London?
John LaMarca The one I liked the best was Spiritland by King’s Cross station. Apparently there’s a newer Spiritland by Royal Albert Hall, have not been to that one.
Mancuso did have the Loft dancing back in the seventies. They exported the idea to London some years ago. This is with the Klipsch speakers and the address is :
www.loftparty.org It's not a bar but a dancing event. But it's old stuff with the K-horns.
There’s a restaurant in NYC supposedly doing a big Klipsch Heritage install - with gear supplied by the moderator of the Klipsch Owners FB group. No idea if it’ll be audiophile or not, but I suspect it’ll be good.
@@vernemattson3300 Maybe this... I had forgotten to followup on this... www.stereophile.com/content/dj-club-sound-systems-brooklyn
Like I said before. Something odd has happened to the hifi - I watched a demo from one manufacurer that played Elvis' recording with a comment - this is a bad recording. But how Elvis had become so popular? Analytical aound is valid only for small chambair music in which you can actually hear every instrument. But for large orchestra or rock - "revealing" does not mean much. Number of the instruments is philharmic orchestra emerged for "amplifocation" reason. The halls bacame bigger so the neccesity was to amplify the sound with the number of musicians. The same is with the rock. That' s why there is legacy produtcs are back in fashion... thank you Steve! I believe you understand what I' am speaking about...
What are your thoughts on altec lansing model 19's?
19s I had at one time were way better than Khorns I had in 1987. I’ve had two pairs of Khorns. I feel the large Altec speakers are much better balanced, deliver more low end, and are much less room-dependent.
Effortless yes exactly bought a set in 85 new not heard anything since that can engage me into the music
That’s how I feel about my JBL 4367! Lifelike, jump out of my seat realism.
Have you compared them to any Klipch Loudspeaker? the JBL 4367.
@@tomhirschel8524 I have not.. but I do remember liking the Klipsch I heard decades ago.
the best corner for a Klipschhorn is a curtain and an Idea cabinet.....yes, I know.... it is sealed