Is it just me, or do you think that Sebastain Stan was phenominal in this film. When we first saw the winter soldier, I thought that they replaced the actor he was that good.
The fight scenes were the best I've ever seen in any comic book movie. They were 10 times better than the Bane and Batman fight in DKR. They were so fucking intense. I'm going to get the DVD just to watch them over and over. Batroc and Cap fighting was just epic. The knife fights with Winter Soldier were amazing. Black widow was badass as well. They went all out in this one.
Zone3917 Tha;ts cause tha'ts not thedefinitive batman from comics,its the "Oh i retired Many years as a hermit and got my ass handed to me ". The REAL Batman breaks Bones and limbs bitches,ARKHAM GAMES *cough*.
I LOVED Captain America: The Winter Soldier. This movie is the best MCU movie so far (with exception of The Avengers) but far better than Iron Man. And I love Iron Man. This movie is awesome. I almost cried during the final fight between Captain and Bucky.
It was so cool to see Cap running around with his shield hitting everyone with it for 2.5 hrs! that made Capt America 2 better that Dark Knight by far! The action sequences of hitting people with a shield while they are shooting at you makes Marvel far superior than D.C stuff. Quantity over Quality!
Are all of you those kind of people who don't give 10/10 at all? I mean, that's cool and all, but for me, it doesn't matter if the film is "perfect", for me if I love the film, then I give it a 5/5 or 10/10. Totally cool what you guys are doing though
AMC Theatres Haha, yes that is true. But it doesn't matter what the rating is, it's the review itself that gets people into cinemas (unless they just skip your review and go all the way down to the rating). Don't think of me as some loser though who just gives 10/10 willy nilly, no... I'm pretty sure I know the difference between a bad movie, a good movie, and a great movie. Just sayin'
Cap 2 vs Avengers: Avengers was easily the more important film. It was a huge spectacle and landmark for the comic book genre, but Cap had the stronger story and was just overall a better movie. Cap 2 vs TDK: I loved the dark knight when it came out and still do. Like John Campea said in another video, it's weaknesses didn't become apparent to me until I saw it more. It's majorly top heavy, with Ledger's performance being almost 100% of what elevated the movie to it's current status. Everyone else fit into their roles nicely and neatly, including the hero, Batman, while Ledger had all the freedom to really breathe his own life into the character. Now this is the reason I liked Cap 2 more, Chris Evans was the true star of this movie. His take on Cap was faithful to the character, and still unique to Evans. This movie did everything to show us what makes the title character so great. It was very easy to get taken away with how much he was enjoying the role, which helped us enjoy it all the more. Not only Cap, but everyone ELSE got their moments to shine, moments of charisma, moments of comedy. Add the equally strong villain(who says like 15 words the whole film, yet still freaking owns the audience) and INSANE action and fight scenes of Cap, and that about sums up why I prefer Cap 2 over TDK. But I see it as so close, I couldn't fault anyone for seeing TDK as better at all. But IMO they are close.
For me, the opening scene "On your left" set the tone as far as how the characters interacted. It made Cap and Falcon guys who had been hurt, lost people and have moved on, are still living and trying to make a difference, cracked jokes and became friends through respect. I thought that the film was going to start with the boat mission, but the fact it started with a character building jogging scene showed me how seriously they were taking the film. I remember thinking "If the rest of the film's scenes are like this, we are in for a treat!"
Absolutely what John said about how much better Cap was handled in this movies compared to how Bruce Wayne was in Dark Knight. I was never happy with Bale's portrayal. I like the way Amirose phrase her comment that Cap 2 is the better made film but Avengers was the more fun of the two. I agree they handle the relationship with Cap and Falcon well, it is clear that Falcon respects and understands Cap and that is why he is willing to follow where he leads. I will say watching this movie makes you realize just how inadequate the AoS series is in portraying SHIELD. And like John said, the show has improved but it's still not good enough, *at all*. I agree with Dennis, it's way too obvious that Redford is the villain of this movie, it didn't kill the movie for me though. Last end credit was affecting, I will agree.
It bugs me that no one mentioned the little line that that bald hydra guy dropped about, "Enemies of Hydra like Bruce Banner, Steven Strange..." STEVEN STRANGE! I audibly shrieked with excitement in the theatres when he said that.
Loved, loved, LOVED this movie. And I'm one of the handful who loves the first Captain America; until this one, it was my favorite Marvel standalone film. The Winter Soldier, however, is my favorite Marvel film period (over even Avengers).
The main difference between The Dark Knight and The Winter Soldier is that The Dark Knight is not about Batman, its main focus is its theme. In The Winter Soldier, Captain America IS the main character.
What an excellent Movie, I won't personally put it above The Dark Knight, but I can understand why someone else might. In fact it was definitely good enough for me to question it's position amidst movies like The Avengers and The Dark Knight in my all time fav comicbook movie rankings!
I saw it Friday. I give it a 10. I loved it, and I agree - After watching the first Capt. America, I would have never thought this one would be so good. But, It was really incredible. I barely got a seat - every show was selling out.
9.5/10. I cannot, in good conscience, give this movie a 10/10, even though all of my issues were incredibly small and ultimately inconsequential. I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of role Bucky has in future projects.
While being more of a continuation of Marvel's The Avengers, Captain America: The Winter Soldier still has enough elements from its predecessor, The First Avenger, to feel like the sequel that it is. Of all the Phase-two Marvel films, so far, this feels the closest to coexisting in the Avengers universe. It still has a bit of the problem of, "Where are the rest of The Avengers?" - but significantly less. Many supporting characters from past Marvel films pop-up here and there, and make references to other offscreen familiar characters. The acting here is top-notch, as per normal. Chris Evans, again, owns the roll as Captain America; Sam L. Jackson and Scarlet Johansen as Nick Fury and Black Widow, respectively, are more boss than ever before; Robert Redford is great, of course, as the business CEO dude guy; Anthony Mackie as the new edition of Falcon adds more color to the film; and Sebastian Shaw as the subtiticular character is incredibly threatening. This film feels very real. The intensity rarely ceases, and the characters seem to be in genuine danger. They aren't afraid to show hundreds of brutal fatalities, from both sides. Certain moments felt like Captain America meets Bourne. This is the most violent Marvel film to date. The action is absolutely insane, and multiple moments had me squeal with glee as the explosions ensued. The political messages and conflicts are very prevalent in our world today. Seeing the old fashioned Captain Rogers struggling to adapt in the new world he's been thrown into, and his conflicting ideals with the organisation that is backing him, is a very interesting and thought-provoking aspect. There's not much I can say about this without spoiling everything, so you'll just have to see it... Which I highly recommend. This is definitely my favourite Phase-two Marvel film, and possibly my favourite overall. The entertainment factor is impeccable. I was never taken out of the world they created, and was thoroughly engrossed throughout the entire runtime. The acting is respectable, the effects are fantastic, the action is top-notch, the reveal(s) are surprising - the fanboy factor, the backstories, the color palette, the costumes, the makeup, the score - everything about this film is awesome. This is a direct lead into The Avengers: Age of Ultron, and be sure to stay after all the credits. Do I even need to say that at this point? Captain America: The Winter Soldier - 8.8/10.
That was a good review, but I don't agree with where are "Where are the rest of The Avengers?" , part There is no way for them to know of any of this is happening, cause it all happened internally in SHIELD and there is no way to contact them. Nick fury out Shield's H.Q. doesn't have the resources or man power for obvious reasons, plus he can't trust anyone. First Thor, they have no way to talk to him really. Second Iron Man I'm pretty sure Hydra had him under surveillance in case Capt or Nick tried to contact Tony. Bruce Banner, another one that's under surveillance and what is he going to do, turn into the Hulk and smash SHIELD into oblivion?. Banner wouldn't want the Hulk to be use by Fury in that manner and fury knows what could happen if the Hulk turns on everyone. Hawkeye probably was dealing with his own who can he trust issues as Hydra was trying to get him kill. Until the scenes when The Helicarriers come out, everything has been kept in close doors. Also I don't know what's the chronological order for the movies in phase two, for phase one pretty much all happened really close to each other, as far as we know some of them could be happening with in days of each other.
***** Well I don't about Iron Man 3, but for Thor 2, it could explain a lot, cause they did mention that they were calling shield but none is answering. I would have to see the chronological order of the movies. But for Capt 2, there is no way other Avengers could have been contacted for help.
I agree about about the suit, but I as long he could talk to jarvis from where ever Jarvis was to the Madarin place, couldn't Jarvis communicated with SHIELD? Great point he could had called 911, beside Rhodes...lol The only thing that could fix the problem is if Iron Man 3 takes place after Capt America 2. Then Shield. Capt America, B Widow and Hawkeye all of them couldn't be reach.
Captain America The Winter Soldier, my all time favorite MARVEL movie to date! Watched it 2D on first opening night and watched it a second time in 3D last night! AWESOME MOVIE!!!
The Winter Soldier being Bucky Barnes would have been a big surprise for me if Campea hadn't spoiled that for me in the Sebastian Stan interview. I love you Campea, but just because you know what happens in the comics doesn't mean you should say it before we see the movie.
***** That can be said for every movie based on books or comic books. From the Lord of the ring to all Marvel and DC movies. Even Game of Throne has much less depth than the novels. In 2 hours including action scenes you need to tell a story that takes you a week to read. Do an experiment, Read out loud a comic book, and see how long it will take you, than think how much stuff you need to leave out to adapt it. Marvel is doing an Amazing job with these movies.
Seriously? I'm pretty sure it was in the trailer. And...he was interviewing Sebastian Stan, did you think Bucky came back to life? Wouldn't Stan have to explain why his character has enough significance that he is doing press junkets? (May we never have another Khan incident.) :)
teh .aynes Actually, to be honest it's because I had forgotten about his character in the first movie. I recently re-watched the first one before this one came out and I remember him now. I guess from my perspective it made sense, but I hadn't thought about how that wouldn't really make sense to other people unless I clarified that.
***** What works in comics doesn't always work in movies... the winter soldier is one of my favorite arcs in the comics and I don't think they could have done much better to make everything fit, not just on the screen but as part of the current marvel cinematic universe... hell there's multiple universes in the comics anyway... just consider this one more alternate universe and be thankful we finally get to see these characters in a live action film. If batroc and falcon had been in their original costumes we probably wouldn't get a cap 3... and since we're never gonna' see a marvel civil war movie, I'm glad they borrowed some elements from it to flesh out their re-telling of this story.
I love this movie and for me it's certainly is better than The Avengers. One the most memorable scene for me is when Capt and Fury was in the elevator halfway through the beginning. They have great chemistry together for two completely different people, talking about how time has changed. Capt brought up about how elevators used to play music for people to listen to and people would always say hello to each other. Fury would explain why people don't do that anymore. It was done so well. Now for the one scene which I thought was cheesy and corny was at the end when Capt. fought Bucky and he dropped his shield becus he doesn't want to fight anymore. I was yelling at him, shouting, "Don't do it!" I thought to myself that's so cheesy and old fashion. Bucky is trying to kill you and you drop your shield for him to kill you, but then I immediately thought to myself, that's how Captain America thinks. He is old fashion. Plus he really wanted to save his friends and maybe part of him wants to give up because he has had it with a world full of lies. Luckily Bucky remembered him and saved him. That also bothered me too because I thought Hydra erased his memory with that bio-shock to the head. How can he recovered so quickly? Other than that "The Winter Solider" is Awesome!
The best part of the movie is where they mention "Stephen Strange" (Dr Strange) being one of their biggest threats Just me who got goosebumps? I and the other 5 people in the theatre that understood it gasped simultaneously, 'twas awesome. Overall I give the movie a 9/10 but doesn't beat the Dark Knight at all for me, maybe on par with Avengers Assemble?
AMC Movie guys you missed a huge important piece in your review. When it is revealed that HYDRA is still active and who HYDRA actually is it also explains the death of Howard Stark (Iron Man's dad) and my they were going to nuke New York (to kill the avengers and aliens) and why they didn't want the Avengers assembled in the first place and why Tony Stark was on trail when it came out he was Iron Man. They movie answered all those questions and addressed those issues. Not only was this movie amazing but it tied in all the other previous movies as well. Can't believe you guys at AMC Movie News missed this.
Its amazing how it all comes together witth out messing it up.... I tell ya marvel is on another level with this shit can't wait for GOTG and avengers 2!!!!!!
That was when they were at the old studio, the new one gives them like a 30-35 minute limit and costs lots of money to make an episode of this show now.
You can't be serious right? There is nothing expensive about this show, they don't use computer graphics or anything. I've seen the same amount of quality if not better from guys filming in their living room. If what your saying is true they shouldn't have blown their money on fancy new microphones.
The Zola scene, in my opinion, is the best part of the entire movie. You could summarize the entire movie in those minutes. I actually found that scene was too frightening for me to think about Zola being uploaded in 1972. There's something so eerie about these green pixels in the shape of Zola's face. And the reveal that the Hydra parasite killed Howard Stark, perhaps by even the Winter Soldier himself, is just so chilling. It's like one of those apocalypse films that chronicles the destruction of humanity. My one complaint is the lack of Hawkeye. There's not a cameo in the film. There should have been a third post-credits scene devoted to him. Or a Marvel short. OR SOMETHING. Personally, I would have liked him joining Agent Coulsen and his team for a few episodes to see where he is and what's he's doing, especially considering his increased role for Avengers 2.
***** There was a tiny reference to Hawkeye. Black Widow was wearing an arrow necklace the entire movie, i confirmed by myself....But i know isnt enough xD
Dont know if I agree with John in the TDK comparison but no doubt CAP2 was the best portrayal ever of a hero in a comic movie ever. In the fight scenes, as well as in other scenes I was like "yeah, that´s the friggin Cap that I know from the comics, he´s awesome and I would follow him anywhere" (that´s the level of diplomacy rolls Cap haves))
mmmmm i might disagree with you about cap2 being the best portrayal of a hero. i think that title belongs to the avengers and how the hulk is portrayed. he entirely stole that movie. but if you're just talking stand alone films then yah i agree
Hey guys, love your shows, just started subscribing a few months ago. Great review. Just got back from seeing it in theaters for my first (of many) times, and I have to agree that this is probably going to be my favorite solo Marvel film, EVEN over Avengers. It was so well done and I really have no complaints whatsoever - save for Maria Hill having what screen time she did, but that's just an actor issue I have. However, the one subject you guys did not touch was the mentioning of a certain Stephen Strange. Though it was just a tidbit in the dialogue, I thought this was very important in grand scheme of the MCU. Keep up the great videos, and keep up the dirty.
Cap 2 is amazing movie..... im not saying the best, its up to you...... but there is no denying it was the best directed movie in Marvel so far....... you feel every punch in this movie.... and finally the REAL STORY, a bit political sands of time piece and sadly that was missing in anything they had done before...... but not as good as TDK by a long mile
About TWS becoming Captain America...I thought it was interesting how many times he got his hand on Cap's shield during the movie and used it as his own.
After reading couples of comments, I came to realise that so many people saw TDK as a sacred, unbeatable movie... It was my favorite comicbook movie for a long time, until this. This is the most accurate depiction of a comic book character on big screen. The 2nd best action sequence of a superhero (behind Spiderman 2), great pacing, great acting... just great across the board. As much as I love TDK, I think this is the best comic book movie. But as a movie overall, TDK still has the upperhand. 1) Cap 2 / TDK 2) Avengers 3) Iron Man/Man of Steel
This movie gets a 9.5 out of 10 for me. I have to admit that right now, I like TWS more than TDK. Ledgers' Joker will always be the best villain in the CBM, but as Campea said Cap in this movie is better than Batman in TDK. Also, the problem with TDK is that once Joker was captured and out of the action, the whole movie felt stale. Ledger's Joker pretty much made TDK great, and without him it wasn't as interesting, whereas it is Evans' Cap who made TWS as amazing as it is.
9.5/10. My final thoughts and score. This film was FANTASTIC. I love how you guy's did the "nit picking" because that is a COMPLEMENT to the film, there were NOT many bad elements to this movie. Is it as good as The Avengers....that is for debate. However, great script, great action, great movie! 9.5/10
Also, you guys forgot to bring up the *Stephen Strange* reference... that's a pretty big deal. Doctor Strange is truly coming seeing as even SHIELD/Hydra know he is out there in the world and is a threat to them.
Shows how good CGI has improved because at 24:25 they are talking about how old age makeup has got way better. but actually they didn't use make up. they used CGI to make her look old.
This movie blows Dark Knight out the water DK was a little better written But Cap 2 is far superior in action and cinematography really on the The Raid Redemption's level.
Better cinematography? Pal, when Steve and Nick are standing inside the helicarrier hangar at the beginning of the film, it looks about as good as MovieBob's green screen.
It is true that this movie is better than anything Marvel's done so far, but my biggest gripe is that it was far too predictable. I knew Nick Fury wasn't going to die, I knew it was Bucky right when the trailer dropped, I knew SHIELD and Pierce were shady. I did like the twist with the scientist in the computers. The action scenes were great, the story was really interesting and relevant, and the characters had more depth than anything Marvel's done. I love where Marvel's going, but this movie is nowhere near as well-made or as transcendent as The Dark Knight.
Hey AMC gang. Viewer from Australia here. I haven't specifically heard reports about them changing the list (mentioned at about 3:15). When I looked over the list of things that Cap wanted to check out though there were Tim-Tams on the list. They are a biscuit that is really popular here in Australia.
Soooooooo gooooooood! I'm dying to see it again. Going back this week and then hopefully again that weekend. Such a great movie all around. And that Zola scene was sick! I was losin it! Soooo comic book cool. This movie got everybody to really care, feel for and understand Cap. Can't wait for more CA movies.
This movie was amazing, and I was honestly shocked at how good it was. In my opinion, this is one of the best comic book films, up there with Avengers and The Dark Knight
With SHIELD gone, I think Steve and the few remaining agents will create the Secret Avengers. Personally, I'm hoping for the creation of S.W.O.R.D. instead, but based on the comics, the Secret Avengers is more likely. Secret Avengers is basically a group of Avengers who perform black ops missions. S.W.O.R.D. was created to be an extra-terrestrial defense organization. I don't see it fitting right now, but they are heading towards it. The reason I want S.W.O.R.D. is because one of its agents is Carol Danvers Better known as Ms/Captain Marvel. The creation of S.W.O.R.D. may lead to the introduction and creation of Ms/Captain Marvel in the MCU. As for Agents of Shield, maybe Colson's team will be tasked with moping up the Hydra remnants.
I agree that Captain America the Winter Soldier was the best standalone Marvel Cinematic Universe movie, though I don't think it's better than The Dark Knight or any of the movies from The Dark Knight Trilogy.
Cap 2 > Dark Knight Avengers > Dark Knight Spider-man 2 > Dark Knight X men 2 > Dark Knight Iron Man > Dark Knight if we are talking about superhero movies TDK doesn't compare it was a nice cop movie though.
What's wrong with it being a cop movie? Winter Soldier is considered a "political thriller" by its creators. So what does that mean? Should it be dismissed because it exists within certain genre? Also, Batman as a character is rooted in the genre you're dismissing The Dark Knight for being, moron. One of Batman's most important character is a cop, and Batman's sidekick is also a cop.
Ok I went to see it last night and I was impressed. Did anyone else catch that the hydra agent who rattled off the greatest threats to the hydra organization? One of the names he said was Stephen Strange ( AKA Dr. Strange ). :D
I actually thought the movie was not going so well until the Zola scene. After that point in the movie I was blown away by the rest of the film. In my opinion it is not better than TDK or Avengers but as far as the standalones it was superb.
9.5 for me as well. I think it raised the bar so high for future Marvel films. I do agree with john that this is easily the best Avengers solo film by a long shot.
Easily The Best Comic film so far, they got everything right. I can't believe how good this film is so much better than The Avengers. Chris Evans is CAPTAIN AMERICA, I love the first film and I enjoyed him in The Avengers but damn finally Cap get's a proper portrayal as a genuine Hero rather than just a boy scout that is cheesy old school, Cap is a good man but he's also a representation of an America that we've lost that this nation was founded upon. The Shield was well showcased in action. I can't express how much I love Sebastian Stan performance as Bucky in the first film and then to up the ante as The Winter Soldier OMG. He was Ultra Badass and the fight sequences was just mind freaking blowing. Props to The directors Anthony and Joe Russo did such a fantastic job of Ed Brubaker storyline. So many nods and easter eggs ( Agent 13- Sharon Carter, Arnim Zola, mention of Doctor Strange, Hydra sleepers agents, and OMG Baron Wolfgang von Strucker) I can't wait for Avengers: Age Of Ultron & Cap 3.
I agree the worst part of the film was black Widows speech at the end. But I loved the teases at the end of the movie setting up the next film: Rumlow surviving to become Crossbones, Maria Hill possible taking over as director of SHIELD, and Sharon Carter at the firing range hitting the target dead center over and over, showing how good of a shot she is to set up for ***SPOILERS**** 6 5 4 3 2 1 when she shoots and kills Steve.
I just saw it about two hours ago and I am going to see it again. There is so much to love. Marvel is a beast.. how will they top this? It was a fantastic cast, script, and the action scenes were amazing.. This is really a great movie to watch... more than once.
The Marvel films are good, but for me they cannot be compared to the dark knight trilogy. For this reason, when watching a Marvel film it feels like it's just a setup to the next avengers film. I loved cap 2, iron man, and thor: the dark world, but nothing makes these movies special, or on another level. With the dark knight trilogy you have a character study on Bruce Wayne. Characters are treated with affection, the performances are top notch. The Dark knight trilogy didn't have the burden of continuing to build a universe. Just focused on it's "confined" world. And this will most probably be true when DC build their universe.
derrick s Let me make a comparison as to why they are good movies movies but bad batman movies. The resident evil live actions movies are a prime example of using the name to sell and nobody has to know anything about it to enjoy it. Is it wrong? No. Does it bug the people who actually know the series/characters? Yes. Thats all I'm saying. People praise Heath Ledger for being the best joker in a live action batman when i personally think its because he died that people made him out to be a great actor. In the 3rd movie Bane and Talia's relationship isn't right but it made for a good cinematic back story. Batman giving his mantle to robin (who isnt actually robin) seemed off as well. But again, it was only a 3 movie deal so it didn't have to make sense with the ending because they won't follow up with it.
Asupernaruto1 batman fanatics? Your name is "asupernaruto1", lets not talk about fanatic fanbases. When something isn't done right, you aren't being a "fanatic" about it. The source materials clearly lay out a path for how the characters are suppose to be portrayed. So you can go on somewhere with that bull.
I loved Captain America The Winter Solider. I loved it all especially at the end when cap told Bucky when cap didn't fight back saying I'll still be there almost had me in tears that was my favorite part and just looking at Bucky's face ohh man nearly teared up. This is a MUST SEE
You want to know what was the most sad part of the film. It was when Bucky said, " You are my mission," and then he was punching Cap in the face and Cap said, " Finish it. Cause I'm always with you till' the end of the line."
so, so far in Iron man 3, stark blows up his suits and basically gives up on being a superhero. and in this one shield is dis banded and everyone goes their separate ways. kind of interesting.
Hey AMC Theatres . . . I love this episode and you guys danced around this (but never address it), but there's a reason why comparing TDK and TWS is apropos. BOTH movies ask us a question by the nature of the scrip. Each of these questions is profound and meaningful in our world today. -TDK's questions are: "What is evil? What is good? What is the nature of order and chaos and what sacrifices are worth it -- for any person -- in achieving that order?" -TWS questions are: "What freedoms are worth sacrificing in order to achieve protection from harm? How much power are you willing to grant to any organization to bring about those protections? These are both profound questions. Marvel's movies -- while good -- have never asked us a philosophical question yet. They finally did. Cap answered that question -- and that's what made this movie great.
Loved this video, and now that this a spoiler talk. The end credit scenes were epic, I'm wondering is Loki's Staff a Infinity stone? Also one of my favorite scene in this movie was the Cap/Black Widow kiss. Loved it, I agree with John the 2nd end credit scene with Bucky starting at his memorial was really great. 10/10 for me and I can't wait for GOTG P.S. I think Black Window has a crush on Cap, which doesn't bode well for Hawkeye.
I hope Falcon gets a new suit made by Stark and joins the Avengers. And I would like to see him and Colonel Rhoades/Iron Patriot and maybe the Winter Soldier in Avengers.
9.5 Just the intro song with the marvel logo gets me excited about this movie every time I see it. It's a great ride best movie for me. Would have liked to see widow and cap end up together staying and working together. Growing a relation ship. She might seam like an assassin and total opposite from cap but when there on the road trip to the military base they have a pure connection of morality.
The Winter Soldier was probably a better superhero movie than The Dark Knight. The Joker (Ledger's phenomenal performance) made the movie. In the Winter Soldier the whole espionage thrill and tense meetings with the Winter Soldier are unbelievably good. The Joker was kinda wasted at the end of the movie, he left too easily, the Winter Soldier was menacing throughout and had emotional value. Both story lines are very good, but there's just more interesting things going on in the Winter Soldier, hydra in S.H.I.E.L.D, Bucky as the Winter Soldier, Cap becoming fugitive, Fury's death.
The Brown Knight Thank you Thank You Thank you, finally a comment that doesn't hold The Dark Knight as a holy religion and doesn't criminally underrate The Winter Soldier...
TWS: 5/10 The most average and overrated MCU movie. It's not good, not bad, just a very forgettable middle of the road movie. TDK: 9/10 Set the bar for superhero movies with an incredible setting and story, as well as great performances by Christian Bale, Gary Oldman, Maggie Gylenhaal, Heath Ledger, Morgan Freeman and the entire cast in general. Christian Bale IS Batman, with by far the best live screen portrayal of him to date. Bruce Wayne/Batman actually has a character arc, unlike the other live screen versions, and we actually learn about his morals and stuff about him. He doesn't phone it in like George Clooney, he's not a hot headed idiot like Ben Affleck, he's not a completely miscast fish out of water like Michael Keaton, and he's not forced to work with a terrible script like Val Kilmer. Heath Ledger is one of the greatest villains of all time. The only weak spots are some of the action scenes, specifically the hand to hand combat between Batman and the thugs.
9.5 Some years back, the thought of a movie featuring a superhero named "America" didn't really make me excited to watch. It was just too in-your-face. And the costume didn't help either. But, when the trailer for CA:TFA came out, I found myself respecting the "little" guy who threw himself on top of a grenade to save others. The writers and directors have done a fantastic job making "Captain America" more relatable to a world that probably doesn't like Americans much. CA:TWS actually takes this "relatability" to a higher level. Cap is now America's biggest ambassador!
YUP!!!! Marked OUT in the theater when I heard it! So you know its coming after The Avengers 2... Dr. Strange, Antman, and hopefully, Guardians of the Galaxy 2
LEOIZM Well I think Guardians 2 might still be up in the air for phase 4. All the phase 3 movie have pretty much mapped out. AntMan is like a couple of months after Avengers 2. Then Cap 3 and Thor 3,and finally Dr.Strange that will lead into Avengers 3. Guardians 2 might happen in phase 4 depending on how the first one does. That Black Panther and Inhumans are all on the same place down the pipeline.
I listened to Chris Evans in interview and he said that while he plans to do more directing...He also plans to still do Marvel movies...I for one, don't want Cap to be anyone but Chris Evans for now...he's really just great at it..
Loved every second of it! To me, Avengers is still a notch better, but Winter Soldier exceeded all my expectations, and I expected A LOT, especially since John hyped it up so much before I saw it
I rewatched the first captain america yesterday and it somehow feels like a better movie now after seeing the winter soldier, it feels a lot more connected to the mcu.
CmdrPwnage I don't think the first one is a better movie, what I mean is I now enjoy the fist one a lot more after seeing the winter soldier, it seems a lot more connected.
Definitely, of all the standalone movies for all the heroes who are in the Avengers movie, Captain America: The Winter Soldier is by far the movie with the most emotional complexity and it also has the most to say in terms of our modern political environment. Just in terms of bringing real humanity to heroes, this movie does a far superior job than the Iron Man franchise or the Thor franchise. The hand to hand fight sequences were some of the best choreographed hand to hand combat scenes that I have seen in any superhero movie. They were well shot, and unlike a lot of movies today, you could see every punch and kick, and nothing was obscured by lazy gimmicks, like shaky cam, rapid editing, or shooting in darkly lit areas. In almost every way Captain America: The Winter Soldier raises the bar for comic book films.
I was with everything that was said in this review until John said he likes it more than The Dark Knight. It was a spectacular movie, but its not on the same level as The Dark Knight.
To add to that I liked that tone of a thrilling, spy, paranoid , who do you trust in a world full of shady people element, Nick fury knows in all of this he can trust cap and go to him when he knows something is up. I felt falcon was handled very well, i had a fear that he would be the jester constantly trying to get laughs, but I liked how they gave him depth , he was a soldier that had ptsd and runs counseling for soldiers who have that experience, which in part sets up the bond between him and cap. very well done and real way of getting to people to bond. Plus when cap and widow are in trouble it is him they go to for help. I liked the way falcon was handled.
This movie was amazing. I would pay the normal price of a ticket just to see a mash up of all the action scenes. They were so well shot. The shaky cam made me a little dizzy but I was still captivated by it all.
Don't usually post on comments section but I wanted to mention two things about this movie. I absolutely loved this movie and have watched a bunch of reviews on TH-cam and it's usually the similar things. First thing I want to point out is am I the only one who noticed the Joe Russo (one of the directors of the film) cameo in the cave when we find out Fury is alive, feels like nobody knows about this! Second thing is probably the one weakness I can think of and that is the score, I personally think music is a big factor in movies especially these type of movies and I didn't think this score was fantastic compared to previous MCU scores, Alan Silvestri's First Avenger score (although did like how his theme appeared in the first scene) or even previous Henry Jackman's scores. Although I did get the espionage thriller theme the score was trying to portray and I did kinda like it but it wasn't overall fantastic. Apart from that the movie was brilliant.
Great review you guys! Loved this movie as well. As far as standalone Avenger films go this is my favorite by far. I'd also put it in my Top 5 Superhero movies of all-time. Everything in this film was incredibly done. I love how this felt more like a spy thriller than a superhero film. The script was great because the story was well crafted and all the characters were fleshed out, the direction by the Russo brothers was magnificent, the action sequences were stunning, and the performances were all terrific. This is also a 9.5/10 for me.
Loki's scepter as another infinity gem! Ahhhh! And "there is nothing more horrifying than a miracle" and scarlet witch looking crazy and crushing those blocks is nightmarish and amazinnnngggg
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Kudos to Ashley for avoiding finding out Winter Soldier's identity before the movie. That must have been mind blowing.
Is it just me, or do you think that Sebastain Stan was phenominal in this film. When we first saw the winter soldier, I thought that they replaced the actor he was that good.
The fight scenes were the best I've ever seen in any comic book movie. They were 10 times better than the Bane and Batman fight in DKR. They were so fucking intense. I'm going to get the DVD just to watch them over and over.
Batroc and Cap fighting was just epic. The knife fights with Winter Soldier were amazing. Black widow was badass as well. They went all out in this one.
No offense, but how was the Bane vs Batman in TDKR any good? It was just a scene of Batman being a fucking pussy. But I loved how Bane broke his back.
Zone3917 Tha;ts cause tha'ts not thedefinitive batman from comics,its the "Oh i retired Many years as a hermit and got my ass handed to me ". The REAL Batman breaks Bones and limbs bitches,ARKHAM GAMES *cough*.
ya that was epic porn ,same level as MOS action
Even with the poor choreography, I thought Batman vs Bane was pretty intense actually. Mostly because of the atmosphere and sound design.
DamnFineCupOfCoffee Bane was intense, but Batman was really laughable there I can't help it.
I LOVED Captain America: The Winter Soldier. This movie is the best MCU movie so far (with exception of The Avengers) but far better than Iron Man. And I love Iron Man. This movie is awesome. I almost cried during the final fight between Captain and Bucky.
lol I was getting choked up too a little bit
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I enjoyed Cap 2 much more than TDK, and agree that it's better.
It was so cool to see Cap running around with his shield hitting everyone with it for 2.5 hrs! that made Capt America 2 better that Dark Knight by far! The action sequences of hitting people with a shield while they are shooting at you makes Marvel far superior than D.C stuff. Quantity over Quality!
Are all of you those kind of people who don't give 10/10 at all? I mean, that's cool and all, but for me, it doesn't matter if the film is "perfect", for me if I love the film, then I give it a 5/5 or 10/10. Totally cool what you guys are doing though
And thus, a 10/10 means nothing if you just hand them out just because you "loved it".
Very few things come out to a 10/10. Very few.
AMC Theatres Haha, yes that is true. But it doesn't matter what the rating is, it's the review itself that gets people into cinemas (unless they just skip your review and go all the way down to the rating).
Don't think of me as some loser though who just gives 10/10 willy nilly, no... I'm pretty sure I know the difference between a bad movie, a good movie, and a great movie. Just sayin'
But holy "sh-- crap", did AMC just own me? Hahaha. #ThisIsWherePunksStepUpToGetBeatDown
Anton Reyes what website is that nothing poped up
I give "Captain America 2:The Winter Soldier " a 10+10
Guys, what about Stephen Strange?!?!
YES!!!! I'm surprised no one is talking about that name drop.
Who else thinks the orb in Loki's scepter is the mind gem?
Well you're not wrong sir
Cap 2 vs Avengers: Avengers was easily the more important film. It was a huge spectacle and landmark for the comic book genre, but Cap had the stronger story and was just overall a better movie.
Cap 2 vs TDK: I loved the dark knight when it came out and still do. Like John Campea said in another video, it's weaknesses didn't become apparent to me until I saw it more. It's majorly top heavy, with Ledger's performance being almost 100% of what elevated the movie to it's current status. Everyone else fit into their roles nicely and neatly, including the hero, Batman, while Ledger had all the freedom to really breathe his own life into the character. Now this is the reason I liked Cap 2 more, Chris Evans was the true star of this movie. His take on Cap was faithful to the character, and still unique to Evans. This movie did everything to show us what makes the title character so great. It was very easy to get taken away with how much he was enjoying the role, which helped us enjoy it all the more. Not only Cap, but everyone ELSE got their moments to shine, moments of charisma, moments of comedy. Add the equally strong villain(who says like 15 words the whole film, yet still freaking owns the audience) and INSANE action and fight scenes of Cap, and that about sums up why I prefer Cap 2 over TDK. But I see it as so close, I couldn't fault anyone for seeing TDK as better at all. But IMO they are close.
For me, the opening scene "On your left" set the tone as far as how the characters interacted. It made Cap and Falcon guys who had been hurt, lost people and have moved on, are still living and trying to make a difference, cracked jokes and became friends through respect. I thought that the film was going to start with the boat mission, but the fact it started with a character building jogging scene showed me how seriously they were taking the film.
I remember thinking "If the rest of the film's scenes are like this, we are in for a treat!"
Absolutely what John said about how much better Cap was handled in this movies compared to how Bruce Wayne was in Dark Knight. I was never happy with Bale's portrayal.
I like the way Amirose phrase her comment that Cap 2 is the better made film but Avengers was the more fun of the two.
I agree they handle the relationship with Cap and Falcon well, it is clear that Falcon respects and understands Cap and that is why he is willing to follow where he leads.
I will say watching this movie makes you realize just how inadequate the AoS series is in portraying SHIELD. And like John said, the show has improved but it's still not good enough, *at all*.
I agree with Dennis, it's way too obvious that Redford is the villain of this movie, it didn't kill the movie for me though.
Last end credit was affecting, I will agree.
It bugs me that no one mentioned the little line that that bald hydra guy dropped about, "Enemies of Hydra like Bruce Banner, Steven Strange..." STEVEN STRANGE! I audibly shrieked with excitement in the theatres when he said that.
tyro apache So, you ready to see how shit turns out?
tyro apache I keep my debates close, alright? But Ant-Man wasn't a failure by any means
tyro apache "From a financial standpoint MOS 2 won't fail. It's guaranteed to make at least 1 or 2 billion"
Yeah, because that happened.. :-|
tyro apache Nice comeback.
Loved, loved, LOVED this movie. And I'm one of the handful who loves the first Captain America; until this one, it was my favorite Marvel standalone film. The Winter Soldier, however, is my favorite Marvel film period (over even Avengers).
loved this movie...also the 1st Captian America was very good and really under rated ...
Winter Soldier was an awesome underrated villain. Can't wait to see what happens next.
By which logic Darth Vader wasn't a good villain because he was being controlled by the Emperor and the Dark Side.
Zachary Adams-Elliott And thus obeyed his every command. Same diff.
The main difference between The Dark Knight and The Winter Soldier is that The Dark Knight is not about Batman, its main focus is its theme. In The Winter Soldier, Captain America IS the main character.
But the weird thing about Cap 2 was that it's named the winter soldier... But yet he's not even the main villain in the movie.
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I think an argument can be made for the subtitle metaphorically referencing not only Bucky's new persona, but Cap. America as well.
What an excellent Movie, I won't personally put it above The Dark Knight, but I can understand why someone else might. In fact it was definitely good enough for me to question it's position amidst movies like The Avengers and The Dark Knight in my all time fav comicbook movie rankings!
I saw it Friday. I give it a 10. I loved it, and I agree - After watching the first Capt. America, I would have never thought this one would be so good. But, It was really incredible. I barely got a seat - every show was selling out.
I love that sound that plays when they show the Winter Soldier. That screeching sound.
9.5/10. I cannot, in good conscience, give this movie a 10/10, even though all of my issues were incredibly small and ultimately inconsequential. I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of role Bucky has in future projects.
Captain America 2 is better than The Dark Knight. It really is!
While being more of a continuation of Marvel's The Avengers, Captain America: The Winter Soldier still has enough elements from its predecessor, The First Avenger, to feel like the sequel that it is. Of all the Phase-two Marvel films, so far, this feels the closest to coexisting in the Avengers universe. It still has a bit of the problem of, "Where are the rest of The Avengers?" - but significantly less. Many supporting characters from past Marvel films pop-up here and there, and make references to other offscreen familiar characters.
The acting here is top-notch, as per normal. Chris Evans, again, owns the roll as Captain America; Sam L. Jackson and Scarlet Johansen as Nick Fury and Black Widow, respectively, are more boss than ever before; Robert Redford is great, of course, as the business CEO dude guy; Anthony Mackie as the new edition of Falcon adds more color to the film; and Sebastian Shaw as the subtiticular character is incredibly threatening.
This film feels very real. The intensity rarely ceases, and the characters seem to be in genuine danger. They aren't afraid to show hundreds of brutal fatalities, from both sides. Certain moments felt like Captain America meets Bourne. This is the most violent Marvel film to date. The action is absolutely insane, and multiple moments had me squeal with glee as the explosions ensued.
The political messages and conflicts are very prevalent in our world today. Seeing the old fashioned Captain Rogers struggling to adapt in the new world he's been thrown into, and his conflicting ideals with the organisation that is backing him, is a very interesting and thought-provoking aspect. There's not much I can say about this without spoiling everything, so you'll just have to see it... Which I highly recommend.
This is definitely my favourite Phase-two Marvel film, and possibly my favourite overall. The entertainment factor is impeccable. I was never taken out of the world they created, and was thoroughly engrossed throughout the entire runtime. The acting is respectable, the effects are fantastic, the action is top-notch, the reveal(s) are surprising - the fanboy factor, the backstories, the color palette, the costumes, the makeup, the score - everything about this film is awesome. This is a direct lead into The Avengers: Age of Ultron, and be sure to stay after all the credits. Do I even need to say that at this point?
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - 8.8/10.
Great Review 10/10
That was a good review, but I don't agree with where are "Where are the rest of The Avengers?" , part
There is no way for them to know of any of this is happening, cause it all happened internally in SHIELD and there is no way to contact them.
Nick fury out Shield's H.Q. doesn't have the resources or man power for obvious reasons, plus he can't trust anyone.
First Thor, they have no way to talk to him really.
Second Iron Man I'm pretty sure Hydra had him under surveillance in case Capt or Nick tried to contact Tony.
Bruce Banner, another one that's under surveillance and what is he going to do, turn into the Hulk and smash SHIELD into oblivion?.
Banner wouldn't want the Hulk to be use by Fury in that manner and fury knows what could happen if the Hulk turns on everyone.
Hawkeye probably was dealing with his own who can he trust issues as Hydra was trying to get him kill.
Until the scenes when The Helicarriers come out, everything has been kept in close doors.
Also I don't know what's the chronological order for the movies in phase two, for phase one pretty much all happened really close to each other, as far as we know some of them could be happening with in days of each other.
*****
Well I don't about Iron Man 3, but for Thor 2, it could explain a lot, cause they did mention that they were calling shield but none is answering.
I would have to see the chronological order of the movies.
But for Capt 2, there is no way other Avengers could have been contacted for help.
I agree about about the suit, but I as long he could talk to jarvis from where ever Jarvis was to the Madarin place, couldn't Jarvis communicated with SHIELD?
Great point he could had called 911, beside Rhodes...lol
The only thing that could fix the problem is if Iron Man 3 takes place after Capt America 2.
Then Shield. Capt America, B Widow and Hawkeye all of them couldn't be reach.
Captain America The Winter Soldier, my all time favorite MARVEL movie to date! Watched it 2D on first opening night and watched it a second time in 3D last night! AWESOME MOVIE!!!
The Winter Soldier being Bucky Barnes would have been a big surprise for me if Campea hadn't spoiled that for me in the Sebastian Stan interview. I love you Campea, but just because you know what happens in the comics doesn't mean you should say it before we see the movie.
Heros changed left n right in the comics so why not in movies? And stan lee is in most ther movies so I think he's fine with it
*****
That can be said for every movie based on books or comic books. From the Lord of the ring to all Marvel and DC movies. Even Game of Throne has much less depth than the novels. In 2 hours including action scenes you need to tell a story that takes you a week to read. Do an experiment, Read out loud a comic book, and see how long it will take you, than think how much stuff you need to leave out to adapt it. Marvel is doing an Amazing job with these movies.
Seriously? I'm pretty sure it was in the trailer. And...he was interviewing Sebastian Stan, did you think Bucky came back to life? Wouldn't Stan have to explain why his character has enough significance that he is doing press junkets? (May we never have another Khan incident.) :)
teh .aynes Actually, to be honest it's because I had forgotten about his character in the first movie. I recently re-watched the first one before this one came out and I remember him now. I guess from my perspective it made sense, but I hadn't thought about how that wouldn't really make sense to other people unless I clarified that.
*****
What works in comics doesn't always work in movies... the winter soldier is one of my favorite arcs in the comics and I don't think they could have done much better to make everything fit, not just on the screen but as part of the current marvel cinematic universe... hell there's multiple universes in the comics anyway... just consider this one more alternate universe and be thankful we finally get to see these characters in a live action film. If batroc and falcon had been in their original costumes we probably wouldn't get a cap 3... and since we're never gonna' see a marvel civil war movie, I'm glad they borrowed some elements from it to flesh out their re-telling of this story.
Better than the Dark Knight? Lets not get too ahead of ourselves
Such a good crew and such a good movie. One of the best comic book movies I have seen.
I love this movie and for me it's certainly is better than The Avengers. One the most memorable scene for me is when Capt and Fury was in the elevator halfway through the beginning. They have great chemistry together for two completely different people, talking about how time has changed. Capt brought up about how elevators used to play music for people to listen to and people would always say hello to each other. Fury would explain why people don't do that anymore. It was done so well. Now for the one scene which I thought was cheesy and corny was at the end when Capt. fought Bucky and he dropped his shield becus he doesn't want to fight anymore. I was yelling at him, shouting, "Don't do it!" I thought to myself that's so cheesy and old fashion. Bucky is trying to kill you and you drop your shield for him to kill you, but then I immediately thought to myself, that's how Captain America thinks. He is old fashion. Plus he really wanted to save his friends and maybe part of him wants to give up because he has had it with a world full of lies. Luckily Bucky remembered him and saved him. That also bothered me too because I thought Hydra erased his memory with that bio-shock to the head. How can he recovered so quickly? Other than that "The Winter Solider" is Awesome!
The best part of the movie is where they mention "Stephen Strange" (Dr Strange) being one of their biggest threats
Just me who got goosebumps? I and the other 5 people in the theatre that understood it gasped simultaneously, 'twas awesome. Overall I give the movie a 9/10 but doesn't beat the Dark Knight at all for me, maybe on par with Avengers Assemble?
I was gonna mention that but i saw your comment
Idk man I’d say 10/10
AMC Movie guys you missed a huge important piece in your review. When it is revealed that HYDRA is still active and who HYDRA actually is it also explains the death of Howard Stark (Iron Man's dad) and my they were going to nuke New York (to kill the avengers and aliens) and why they didn't want the Avengers assembled in the first place and why Tony Stark was on trail when it came out he was Iron Man. They movie answered all those questions and addressed those issues. Not only was this movie amazing but it tied in all the other previous movies as well. Can't believe you guys at AMC Movie News missed this.
They had a lot to cover in 30 minutes. Wipe the sweat off.
Its amazing how it all comes together witth out messing it up.... I tell ya marvel is on another level with this shit can't wait for GOTG and avengers 2!!!!!!
Good points....makes sense.
That was when they were at the old studio, the new one gives them like a 30-35 minute limit and costs lots of money to make an episode of this show now.
You can't be serious right? There is nothing expensive about this show, they don't use computer graphics or anything. I've seen the same amount of quality if not better from guys filming in their living room. If what your saying is true they shouldn't have blown their money on fancy new microphones.
The Zola scene, in my opinion, is the best part of the entire movie. You could summarize the entire movie in those minutes. I actually found that scene was too frightening for me to think about Zola being uploaded in 1972. There's something so eerie about these green pixels in the shape of Zola's face. And the reveal that the Hydra parasite killed Howard Stark, perhaps by even the Winter Soldier himself, is just so chilling. It's like one of those apocalypse films that chronicles the destruction of humanity.
My one complaint is the lack of Hawkeye. There's not a cameo in the film. There should have been a third post-credits scene devoted to him. Or a Marvel short. OR SOMETHING. Personally, I would have liked him joining Agent Coulsen and his team for a few episodes to see where he is and what's he's doing, especially considering his increased role for Avengers 2.
***** There was a tiny reference to Hawkeye. Black Widow was wearing an arrow necklace the entire movie, i confirmed by myself....But i know isnt enough xD
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Im pretty sure The red skull didnt die, in the first movie, he went to space or asgard, or somewhere. He might come back in cap 3. maybe.
Knight Heaven see that's what I thought I really want to see him come back.
I watched the movie an hour before i watched this review and absolutely loved it. Favorite marvel movie to date.
Ashley Mova is so fine lol. I wanted to be the first one to say if no one else said it already before me lol.
Dont know if I agree with John in the TDK comparison but no doubt CAP2 was the best portrayal ever of a hero in a comic movie ever. In the fight scenes, as well as in other scenes I was like "yeah, that´s the friggin Cap that I know from the comics, he´s awesome and I would follow him anywhere" (that´s the level of diplomacy rolls Cap haves))
and yeah the action scenes were to droll naked in an insane asylum
mmmmm i might disagree with you about cap2 being the best portrayal of a hero. i think that title belongs to the avengers and how the hulk is portrayed. he entirely stole that movie. but if you're just talking stand alone films then yah i agree
julio arroyos I disagree with both of you, to me it's for sure rdj as Tony Stark... He is Tony Stark.
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Great review. Just got back from seeing it in theaters for my first (of many) times, and I have to agree that this is probably going to be my favorite solo Marvel film, EVEN over Avengers. It was so well done and I really have no complaints whatsoever - save for Maria Hill having what screen time she did, but that's just an actor issue I have.
However, the one subject you guys did not touch was the mentioning of a certain Stephen Strange. Though it was just a tidbit in the dialogue, I thought this was very important in grand scheme of the MCU.
Keep up the great videos, and keep up the dirty.
Cap 2 is amazing movie..... im not saying the best, its up to you...... but there is no denying it was the best directed movie in Marvel so far....... you feel every punch in this movie.... and finally the REAL STORY, a bit political sands of time piece and sadly that was missing in anything they had done before...... but not as good as TDK by a long mile
Omg Ashley is SOO BEAUTIFUL!
I agree with John, this is better than The Dark Knight.
i loved cap 2 , but lets see if it stands the test of time as TDK does
About TWS becoming Captain America...I thought it was interesting how many times he got his hand on Cap's shield during the movie and used it as his own.
Captain America was freaking AWESOMEEEEE 100/10
After reading couples of comments, I came to realise that so many people saw TDK as a sacred, unbeatable movie... It was my favorite comicbook movie for a long time, until this.
This is the most accurate depiction of a comic book character on big screen. The 2nd best action sequence of a superhero (behind Spiderman 2), great pacing, great acting... just great across the board. As much as I love TDK, I think this is the best comic book movie. But as a movie overall, TDK still has the upperhand.
1) Cap 2 / TDK
2) Avengers
3) Iron Man/Man of Steel
This movie gets a 9.5 out of 10 for me. I have to admit that right now, I like TWS more than TDK. Ledgers' Joker will always be the best villain in the CBM, but as Campea said Cap in this movie is better than Batman in TDK. Also, the problem with TDK is that once Joker was captured and out of the action, the whole movie felt stale. Ledger's Joker pretty much made TDK great, and without him it wasn't as interesting, whereas it is Evans' Cap who made TWS as amazing as it is.
9.5/10. My final thoughts and score. This film was FANTASTIC. I love how you guy's did the "nit picking" because that is a COMPLEMENT to the film, there were NOT many bad elements to this movie. Is it as good as The Avengers....that is for debate. However, great script, great action, great movie! 9.5/10
Also, you guys forgot to bring up the *Stephen Strange* reference... that's a pretty big deal. Doctor Strange is truly coming seeing as even SHIELD/Hydra know he is out there in the world and is a threat to them.
Right... I thought that one small mention was bigger than the credit scenes
Shows how good CGI has improved because at 24:25 they are talking about how old age makeup has got way better. but actually they didn't use make up. they used CGI to make her look old.
This movie blows Dark Knight out the water
DK was a little better written
But Cap 2 is far superior in action and cinematography really on the The Raid Redemption's level.
The action scenes in TWS are very funny I'll give you that, but otherwise it's just an average movie.
TWS: 5/10
TDK: 9/10
Better cinematography? Pal, when Steve and Nick are standing inside the helicarrier hangar at the beginning of the film, it looks about as good as MovieBob's green screen.
It is true that this movie is better than anything Marvel's done so far, but my biggest gripe is that it was far too predictable. I knew Nick Fury wasn't going to die, I knew it was Bucky right when the trailer dropped, I knew SHIELD and Pierce were shady. I did like the twist with the scientist in the computers.
The action scenes were great, the story was really interesting and relevant, and the characters had more depth than anything Marvel's done. I love where Marvel's going, but this movie is nowhere near as well-made or as transcendent as The Dark Knight.
Schnepp: 9.5
Ashley: 8
Dennis: 9
Amirose: 9.5
Campea: 9.52
He actually says, "I'm gonna go 9.5 too." I'm just being goofy. :)
Hey AMC gang. Viewer from Australia here. I haven't specifically heard reports about them changing the list (mentioned at about 3:15). When I looked over the list of things that Cap wanted to check out though there were Tim-Tams on the list. They are a biscuit that is really popular here in Australia.
Didn't mention Doctor Strange, damn you.
Soooooooo gooooooood! I'm dying to see it again. Going back this week and then hopefully again that weekend. Such a great movie all around. And that Zola scene was sick! I was losin it! Soooo comic book cool. This movie got everybody to really care, feel for and understand Cap. Can't wait for more CA movies.
9.5/10 for Cap 2. I think it was better than The Avengers and is my favorite comic book movie of all time. It's amazing.
This movie was amazing, and I was honestly shocked at how good it was. In my opinion, this is one of the best comic book films, up there with Avengers and The Dark Knight
With SHIELD gone, I think Steve and the few remaining agents will create the Secret Avengers. Personally, I'm hoping for the creation of S.W.O.R.D. instead, but based on the comics, the Secret Avengers is more likely. Secret Avengers is basically a group of Avengers who perform black ops missions. S.W.O.R.D. was created to be an extra-terrestrial defense organization. I don't see it fitting right now, but they are heading towards it. The reason I want S.W.O.R.D. is because one of its agents is Carol Danvers Better known as Ms/Captain Marvel. The creation of S.W.O.R.D. may lead to the introduction and creation of Ms/Captain Marvel in the MCU.
As for Agents of Shield, maybe Colson's team will be tasked with moping up the Hydra remnants.
Agreed with John not better than Avengers but better than Dark Knight.
I agree that Captain America the Winter Soldier was the best standalone Marvel Cinematic Universe movie, though I don't think it's better than The Dark Knight or any of the movies from The Dark Knight Trilogy.
wait, old Peggy was the former actress, I swore it was an actual old actress playing as Peggy
Cap 2 > Dark Knight
Avengers > Dark Knight
Spider-man 2 > Dark Knight
X men 2 > Dark Knight
Iron Man > Dark Knight
if we are talking about superhero movies TDK doesn't compare it was a nice cop movie though.
What's wrong with it being a cop movie? Winter Soldier is considered a "political thriller" by its creators. So what does that mean? Should it be dismissed because it exists within certain genre? Also, Batman as a character is rooted in the genre you're dismissing The Dark Knight for being, moron. One of Batman's most important character is a cop, and Batman's sidekick is also a cop.
Winter Soldier = Dark Knight = Spider-Man 2
Dark Knight ≥ Avengers
X2 < Dark Knight
Iron Man < Dark Knight
Ok I went to see it last night and I was impressed. Did anyone else catch that the hydra agent who rattled off the greatest threats to the hydra organization? One of the names he said was Stephen Strange ( AKA Dr. Strange ). :D
Yep, I saw that too when I saw it last night and geeked out.
hell yeah i noticed
Did anyone catch the steve strange aka Dr. Strange reference/foreshadow ? that was cool to hear...
yes
I love how you emphasise that it's a spoiler filled review so much, just makes me laugh every time
Way more violent than I was expecting. Lots of soldiers and civilians are killed. Don't mind it, but it surprised me.
Winter Soldier has some of the best film editing and sound design I've ever seen in a movie.
This movie was awesome! Have to go back, and watch it again definitely.
Cap 2>>>>>>>>TDK
I actually thought the movie was not going so well until the Zola scene. After that point in the movie I was blown away by the rest of the film. In my opinion it is not better than TDK or Avengers but as far as the standalones it was superb.
I 100% agree with you.
9.5 for me as well. I think it raised the bar so high for future Marvel films. I do agree with john that this is easily the best Avengers solo film by a long shot.
Easily The Best Comic film so far, they got everything right. I can't believe how good this film is so much better than The Avengers. Chris Evans is CAPTAIN AMERICA, I love the first film and I enjoyed him in The Avengers but damn finally Cap get's a proper portrayal as a genuine Hero rather than just a boy scout that is cheesy old school, Cap is a good man but he's also a representation of an America that we've lost that this nation was founded upon. The Shield was well showcased in action. I can't express how much I love Sebastian Stan performance as Bucky in the first film and then to up the ante as The Winter Soldier OMG. He was Ultra Badass and the fight sequences was just mind freaking blowing. Props to The directors Anthony and Joe Russo did such a fantastic job of Ed Brubaker storyline. So many nods and easter eggs ( Agent 13- Sharon Carter, Arnim Zola, mention of Doctor Strange, Hydra sleepers agents, and OMG Baron Wolfgang von Strucker) I can't wait for Avengers: Age Of Ultron & Cap 3.
I agree the worst part of the film was black Widows speech at the end.
But I loved the teases at the end of the movie setting up the next film: Rumlow surviving to become Crossbones, Maria Hill possible taking over as director of SHIELD, and Sharon Carter at the firing range hitting the target dead center over and over, showing how good of a shot she is to set up for ***SPOILERS****
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I think it is Marvels best film and better than the Avengers. I still prefer the Dark Knight Trilogy films over this movie though.
Luis Navarro What a dumbass comment, I think you should watch the movie then.
Dark Knight is champ! Still waiting for a comic book film to top it!
Dark Knight is champ! Still waiting for a comic book film to top it!
I just saw it about two hours ago and I am going to see it again. There is so much to love. Marvel is a beast.. how will they top this? It was a fantastic cast, script, and the action scenes were amazing.. This is really a great movie to watch... more than once.
The Marvel films are good, but for me they cannot be compared to the dark knight trilogy. For this reason, when watching a Marvel film it feels like it's just a setup to the next avengers film. I loved cap 2, iron man, and thor: the dark world, but nothing makes these movies special, or on another level. With the dark knight trilogy you have a character study on Bruce Wayne. Characters are treated with affection, the performances are top notch. The Dark knight trilogy didn't have the burden of continuing to build a universe. Just focused on it's "confined" world. And this will most probably be true when DC build their universe.
id love to debate this but dare i say the dark knight trilogy were great movies but bad batman movies. I will say cap 2 beat out dark knight 3 though
Yeah I'd love to know how they were in anyway "bad" batman movies. Please elaborate...
I wouldn't say batman fanatic. I'd say a movie fanatic that loves great films. You know what I mean...
derrick s Let me make a comparison as to why they are good movies movies but bad batman movies. The resident evil live actions movies are a prime example of using the name to sell and nobody has to know anything about it to enjoy it. Is it wrong? No. Does it bug the people who actually know the series/characters? Yes. Thats all I'm saying. People praise Heath Ledger for being the best joker in a live action batman when i personally think its because he died that people made him out to be a great actor. In the 3rd movie Bane and Talia's relationship isn't right but it made for a good cinematic back story. Batman giving his mantle to robin (who isnt actually robin) seemed off as well. But again, it was only a 3 movie deal so it didn't have to make sense with the ending because they won't follow up with it.
Asupernaruto1 batman fanatics? Your name is "asupernaruto1", lets not talk about fanatic fanbases. When something isn't done right, you aren't being a "fanatic" about it. The source materials clearly lay out a path for how the characters are suppose to be portrayed. So you can go on somewhere with that bull.
I loved Captain America The Winter Solider. I loved it all especially at the end when cap told Bucky when cap didn't fight back saying I'll still be there almost had me in tears that was my favorite part and just looking at Bucky's face ohh man nearly teared up. This is a MUST SEE
Yeah I agree Cap 2 is better than TDK.
You want to know what was the most sad part of the film. It was when Bucky said, " You are my mission," and then he was punching Cap in the face and Cap said, " Finish it. Cause I'm always with you till' the end of the line."
so, so far in Iron man 3, stark blows up his suits and basically gives up on being a superhero. and in this one shield is dis banded and everyone goes their separate ways. kind of interesting.
Hey AMC Theatres . . . I love this episode and you guys danced around this (but never address it), but there's a reason why comparing TDK and TWS is apropos. BOTH movies ask us a question by the nature of the scrip. Each of these questions is profound and meaningful in our world today.
-TDK's questions are: "What is evil? What is good? What is the nature of order and chaos and what sacrifices are worth it -- for any person -- in achieving that order?"
-TWS questions are: "What freedoms are worth sacrificing in order to achieve protection from harm? How much power are you willing to grant to any organization to bring about those protections?
These are both profound questions. Marvel's movies -- while good -- have never asked us a philosophical question yet. They finally did. Cap answered that question -- and that's what made this movie great.
the place of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D in the Marvel cinema universe feels more and more like Torchwood to Doctor Who.
Loved this video, and now that this a spoiler talk. The end credit scenes were epic, I'm wondering is Loki's Staff a Infinity stone? Also one of my favorite scene in this movie was the Cap/Black Widow kiss. Loved it, I agree with John the 2nd end credit scene with Bucky starting at his memorial was really great. 10/10 for me and I can't wait for GOTG
P.S. I think Black Window has a crush on Cap, which doesn't bode well for Hawkeye.
I hope Falcon gets a new suit made by Stark and joins the Avengers. And I would like to see him and Colonel Rhoades/Iron Patriot and maybe the Winter Soldier in Avengers.
9.5 Just the intro song with the marvel logo gets me excited about this movie every time I see it. It's a great ride best movie for me. Would have liked to see widow and cap end up together staying and working together. Growing a relation ship. She might seam like an assassin and total opposite from cap but when there on the road trip to the military base they have a pure connection of morality.
The Winter Soldier was probably a better superhero movie than The Dark Knight. The Joker (Ledger's phenomenal performance) made the movie. In the Winter Soldier the whole espionage thrill and tense meetings with the Winter Soldier are unbelievably good. The Joker was kinda wasted at the end of the movie, he left too easily, the Winter Soldier was menacing throughout and had emotional value. Both story lines are very good, but there's just more interesting things going on in the Winter Soldier, hydra in S.H.I.E.L.D, Bucky as the Winter Soldier, Cap becoming fugitive, Fury's death.
The Brown Knight ya dark knight gets an edge because of joker if joker wasnt in t winter soldier wins
The Brown Knight Thank you Thank You Thank you, finally a comment that doesn't hold The Dark Knight as a holy religion and doesn't criminally underrate The Winter Soldier...
TWS: 5/10 The most average and overrated MCU movie. It's not good, not bad, just a very forgettable middle of the road movie.
TDK: 9/10 Set the bar for superhero movies with an incredible setting and story, as well as great performances by Christian Bale, Gary Oldman, Maggie Gylenhaal, Heath Ledger, Morgan Freeman and the entire cast in general. Christian Bale IS Batman, with by far the best live screen portrayal of him to date. Bruce Wayne/Batman actually has a character arc, unlike the other live screen versions, and we actually learn about his morals and stuff about him. He doesn't phone it in like George Clooney, he's not a hot headed idiot like Ben Affleck, he's not a completely miscast fish out of water like Michael Keaton, and he's not forced to work with a terrible script like Val Kilmer. Heath Ledger is one of the greatest villains of all time. The only weak spots are some of the action scenes, specifically the hand to hand combat between Batman and the thugs.
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Some years back, the thought of a movie featuring a superhero named "America" didn't really make me excited to watch. It was just too in-your-face. And the costume didn't help either. But, when the trailer for CA:TFA came out, I found myself respecting the "little" guy who threw himself on top of a grenade to save others.
The writers and directors have done a fantastic job making "Captain America" more relatable to a world that probably doesn't like Americans much. CA:TWS actually takes this "relatability" to a higher level. Cap is now America's biggest ambassador!
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Did anyone else notice the Dr.Strange name drop when they have Sitwell on the roof ?
YUP!!!! Marked OUT in the theater when I heard it! So you know its coming after The Avengers 2... Dr. Strange, Antman, and hopefully, Guardians of the Galaxy 2
LEOIZM Well I think Guardians 2 might still be up in the air for phase 4. All the phase 3 movie have pretty much mapped out. AntMan is like a couple of months after Avengers 2. Then Cap 3 and Thor 3,and finally Dr.Strange that will lead into Avengers 3. Guardians 2 might happen in phase 4 depending on how the first one does. That Black Panther and Inhumans are all on the same place down the pipeline.
I listened to Chris Evans in interview and he said that while he plans to do more directing...He also plans to still do Marvel movies...I for one, don't want Cap to be anyone but Chris Evans for now...he's really just great at it..
TDK was flawed too. It was too long and Two Face shouldn't have even been in the movie.
I thought we were talking about Cap 2 here buddy?
It's my comment buddy. Keep scrolling!
Loved every second of it! To me, Avengers is still a notch better, but Winter Soldier exceeded all my expectations, and I expected A LOT, especially since John hyped it up so much before I saw it
I rewatched the first captain america yesterday and it somehow feels like a better movie now after seeing the winter soldier, it feels a lot more connected to the mcu.
FINALLY someone that thought the first one was better as well. THANK YOU.
CmdrPwnage I don't think the first one is a better movie, what I mean is I now enjoy the fist one a lot more after seeing the winter soldier, it seems a lot more connected.
Definitely, of all the standalone movies for all the heroes who are in the Avengers movie, Captain America: The Winter Soldier is by far the movie with the most emotional complexity and it also has the most to say in terms of our modern political environment. Just in terms of bringing real humanity to heroes, this movie does a far superior job than the Iron Man franchise or the Thor franchise. The hand to hand fight sequences were some of the best choreographed hand to hand combat scenes that I have seen in any superhero movie. They were well shot, and unlike a lot of movies today, you could see every punch and kick, and nothing was obscured by lazy gimmicks, like shaky cam, rapid editing, or shooting in darkly lit areas. In almost every way Captain America: The Winter Soldier raises the bar for comic book films.
I was with everything that was said in this review until John said he likes it more than The Dark Knight. It was a spectacular movie, but its not on the same level as The Dark Knight.
To add to that I liked that tone of a thrilling, spy, paranoid , who do you trust in a world full of shady people element, Nick fury knows in all of this he can trust cap and go to him when he knows something is up. I felt falcon was handled very well, i had a fear that he would be the jester constantly trying to get laughs, but I liked how they gave him depth , he was a soldier that had ptsd and runs counseling for soldiers who have that experience, which in part sets up the bond between him and cap. very well done and real way of getting to people to bond. Plus when cap and widow are in trouble it is him they go to for help. I liked the way falcon was handled.
WB/DC "to your left"
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This movie was amazing. I would pay the normal price of a ticket just to see a mash up of all the action scenes. They were so well shot. The shaky cam made me a little dizzy but I was still captivated by it all.
Best Marvel Movies
1. Avengers
2. CAWS
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4. Ironman
5. X men 2
Don't usually post on comments section but I wanted to mention two things about this movie. I absolutely loved this movie and have watched a bunch of reviews on TH-cam and it's usually the similar things.
First thing I want to point out is am I the only one who noticed the Joe Russo (one of the directors of the film) cameo in the cave when we find out Fury is alive, feels like nobody knows about this!
Second thing is probably the one weakness I can think of and that is the score, I personally think music is a big factor in movies especially these type of movies and I didn't think this score was fantastic compared to previous MCU scores, Alan Silvestri's First Avenger score (although did like how his theme appeared in the first scene) or even previous Henry Jackman's scores. Although I did get the espionage thriller theme the score was trying to portray and I did kinda like it but it wasn't overall fantastic. Apart from that the movie was brilliant.
Watch this in 0.5 speed and it sounds like they're all stoned. Hilarious.
Great review you guys! Loved this movie as well. As far as standalone Avenger films go this is my favorite by far. I'd also put it in my Top 5 Superhero movies of all-time. Everything in this film was incredibly done. I love how this felt more like a spy thriller than a superhero film. The script was great because the story was well crafted and all the characters were fleshed out, the direction by the Russo brothers was magnificent, the action sequences were stunning, and the performances were all terrific. This is also a 9.5/10 for me.
I LOVED THIS FILM IT WAS SO WELL DONE
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Loki's scepter as another infinity gem! Ahhhh! And "there is nothing more horrifying than a miracle" and scarlet witch looking crazy and crushing those blocks is nightmarish and amazinnnngggg