Why the New Republic Didn't Place its Capital on Coruscant
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- The New Republic has defeated the empire and driven them from the core into the Outer Rim and Unknown Regions. They've set up defense councils, the New Republic Amnesty program, even ranger patrols in the outer rim. So how come they haven't returned to Coruscant yet? Now that the war is over surely the new republic can finally symbolically finalize their goal of revitalizing and restoring the republic by taking the traditional republic seat of power on Coruscant.
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Let us not forget that by the end of the Empire one had to be a loyal Imperial to even live there legally.
Like the Nazis, some towns were Nazi-only.
But even Coruscant rebelled once Palpatine died
@@moblinmajorgeneraleveryone wants to kill the dictator, after the dictator is alredy dead.
On the upper levels, yes, But many, many lived on the lower levels. Not always legally. Remember, this planet has a population of trillions.
Honestly the worst part of the sequels is how it took all of the incredible sacrifices that the rebels made and made it all pointless. The culmination of all that suffering just ended up being a joke of a government that couldn’t even stop the most obvious enemy and was so weak that it collapsed in a single blow. Kanan, Andor, Luthen, Jyn, and many more peoples sacrifices all made meaningless because Mon Mothma wanted to basically virtue signal.
The biggest error the New Republic made was treating most of the Rebel Alliance as a military force and cutting them out of politics. Leia was the only one who really understood how to coordinate these two groups and her influence was erased when everyone found out she was Vader’s daughter.
leaving the empire would still have been worse. it wasnt in vain for the time that teh galexy was peaceful
*leaving the empire alive
Reality bites.
There were still fascists after WWII, there are still fascists now.
America fought a revolution against an empire, and became no less abusive to its citizens and "non citizens" for another 50 years, and pockets of bad governance still remain 200+ years later...
Preach brother preach
Senator Ryo Chuchi was another politician who tried to stand up against the Empire. At least tried to fight to ensure that Clones who fought and sacrificed so much could be recognized as citizens of the Empire.
This leads to new question: Where is Senator Riyo Chuchi? I think she will be a worthy successor and as an alternative for Leia.
@@lerneanlionI have a feeling The bad batch season 3 may answer that question.
@@Squiddy-go1du Palpatine made her into an Imperial class Escort.
@@krel3358WHAT
@krel3358 you lie!
Honestly it’s one of those retcons (where they changed things from the books in the shows like Cobb Vanth's backstory, the changes from both the Kanan comic in the bad batch, and the Ahsoka Novel in tales of the jedi and clone wars season 7.) that I considered a good thing since many people dislike the treatment of Coruscant in the post-Endor galaxy so this retcon is a good thing.
Alan your knowledge of our politics is very impressive and I love how you connect it with the SW galaxies. Your videos are awesome and I really enjoy them. Really enjoying Ahsoka too. 👏
On the contrary. His knowledge of real world politics is terrible.
Little advice, never trust Western Mainstream Media. They always lies about everything.
very good point about the companies. You had incorporations such as Czerka. They survived since the days of the old republic (Revan's time) until well after Luke's era. They were mostly weapons manufacturers, but also sold speeders, other things.
I recall a passage from ( darth plagues) palpatine is thinking about corusant . He thinks the only way the republic could be saved was the separate the senate from corusant . With the economic and political do close corruption was inevitable. And easy for someone like him to exploit.
I dunno, the Senators are still very influential regardless, they'd have plenty of Corruption wherever they went
@@thalmoragent9344 yes and lobbyists would be an issue. It would just be more difficult. On corusant. All the various power groups from politicians, business and gangsters ect all go to the opera at the same time . .the passage itself explains it better .
@@shanenolan5625 >lobbyists
It's cute how you think the corruption comes from the outside in.
The fact they didnt prevented them from capitalizing on the opportunity to push galactic philosophy back towards the ideals of the galactic republic. Something which costed them dearly during the Hosnian disaster.
Well, overall the New Republic is a shit show
Thank you for giving us the deep dives of all of the Star Wars universe. Greatly appreciated 🙏
Keep going 🤘💯❤️
Your voice + musings on Star Wars lore are joyful supplements to my work from home days.
Very appreciative!
Loving the high content output, quality hasnt sufferered a bit.
I cannot get enough of this channel. Thanks for all the hard work ❤
Star Wars: The Old Republic can give you a lot of this experience, too. Visiting Coruscant, and the ruins of Taris. It's great fun for such an old game, and surprisingly RPG-heavy for an MMO.
Yeah! There's still so much good lore and stuff in that game, it's always a blast to play if you're going at it story wise.
hopefully one of the stories Pablo hinted at will bring the Lusankya into canon 😁
Looking back it’s obvious how important that Mando episode your referencing was, even though it wasn’t well received.
"day of light" line got me to chuckle
The idea that Mon Mothma has time for things like this is absolutely ludicrous.
What do you mean?
@@BugRib She has an entire galaxy to run. Presiding over a pseudo court-martial is something that wouldn't be handled by the head of state.
Frankly, the idea of a head of state over tens of thousands of star systems is simply impossible.
@@finnberglander7816You just answered your own question. She has time for this because she isn’t directly running 10,000 planets. For starters, it’s a Republic so the senate does most of the work, but in addition to that most planets also have their own governments that handle local laws.
Love your daily uploads keep up the great work
I'd love to see a video comparing the world governments to the empire, how far is the UK, EU, USA, Canada from becoming Palaptines empire?
We pride ourselves on being democracies but in truth I think we are close to being the empire
This would indeed be a interesting video, with the pandemic, war and all that there is new legislation being passed every day that fucks over a lot of people and a lot more people who would in the past speak up are now spineless and go along much like the people of the republic who welcomed the empire with tremendous applause.
But that video won't happen for the same reasons listed above
The destruction of Alderaan is the equivalent of a government nuking of its own major cities in order to make a point and demonstrate power. I don't see any western government doing anything even remotely close to this. So no, we're not the empire.
But we do have issues that are similar to those of the old republic. Most of the governing is done by unelected bureaucrats, and the traits people need to rise into prominence within a political party and as politicians, make them terrible leaders of nations. In my native language there's an aphorism that translates to "Voting doesn't change anything, if it did, it were illegal." The past twenty years are not a counter against that.
@@MrAranton Well ... technically Hiroshima and Nagasaki could count as a government nuking a major city to show power
@@Alertacobra12"It's own"
off course it's closer. UK is still somewhat an Empire, but a decentralized and liberalized empire .
Standing up to fight is easy until you actually have to look death in the face
Would love to see a breakdown of the Czerka Corporation from Legends if you ever get the chance ❣
Another great insight into the world of Star Wars. Keep up the good work, Allan
One of my favorite TH-camrs! Love your show Alan!
Do a complete timeline or explanation of the clone wars or the galactic civil war
Speaking of cityscapes, i do love the city lights behind you out the window there. Nice touch! Long time subscriber here. Love your videos. Cheers!
Love the content man
Keep up the good work👍❤️
Great video! Which to move away from corasont is like a Russian government moving away from Moscow to a small central village... Which stuff like that has happened on Earth the Chinese love doing it for exemple but it's as the US knows is really impractical. Which the new republic like the US is so flexible it really does not matter what happens to the capital as there be in the USes case 50 more where that one came from.
You can still visit Taris in SWTOR.
3:20 this shot remind me of Korhal, capital planet of Dominion in StarCraft 2😊
Has it been established that Corsuscant is humanity's home planet? I though it was contentious between Corsuscant, Corellia, and another one.
Alderaan.
I love this channel because it covers subjects you wouldn't think about in Star Wars...but I'm tired of the current affairs lesson in them...if I wanted to hear about politics in the real world i'll turn on the news
The rotation of capitals made sense to entice membership to the growing New Republic however, the strategic location of Coruscant and the infrastructure the planet had made it suitable for political activities.
If washington, LA AND New York got wrapped up all together. I don't know what I'd do.
Idk but for me this was a great video
Korriban>Moraband.
4 those who know
dam you jedi
1:20 Allen reached out through The Force.
6:34 I think that Senator was trying to hide his outrage cause he seem to be with Mon but less discrete.
Excellent insight as usual!
If we were talking about any other planet but Coruscant I wouldn't be saying this. But I could never figure out why the population of Coruscant would be cheering the fall of the Empire. After 20+ years as the Imperial capital I can't but believe that if you lived on the planet, you worked for the Empire. Your job, your family's financial (if not political) security was tied up with the well being of the Empire. And after 20+ years Palpatine would have ensured that of all planets- Coruscant would be the truest, most loyal in all the Empire. Sure the lower levels would be glad to see the Empire go, but the um, "activities" that were engaged in down there would have been frowned upon & prosecuted by the New Republic as well.
I just want to know what happened to the old senate building and the old Jedi temple/imperial palace after the Empire fell.
Day 202 PLEASE DO MORE TACTICS VIDEOS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS
1:36 fun fact, in the mandalorian it is said that coruscant is NOT located in the exact center of the galaxy
I wonder if Mon Mothma knew that Leia was Padme and Anakin's daughter? she definitely knew Luke was related to Anakin
The building we see is the Court (with the Republic logo) and I believe this is the institution Padmé was referring to in TPM when Palpatine gave her the choice to sign the Treaty forfeiting Naboo to the Trade Federation or bring it to Court.
Great how you tie it back to our real world. Keep up the good work.
Preach Brother!
Man, thinking about an undercity that never sees natural light just makes me think of the silent movie, Metropolis and how it depicted the people living beneath the city. It would be really interesting to see a Star Wars thing set entirely in the lower levels of an ecumenopolis like Coruscant or Taris.
I hope it's not giving too much credit to Tony Gilroy to think the green and gold Senator in that scene is a perfect example of ducktalk from 1984 (as well as just repeating post-9/11 propaganda verbatim).
Thank you Pablo for saving Coruscant
KOTOR IS GOATED
Taris scared the hell out of child me
I am so surprised that you know about Elvira Nabiulina. She is really a very brave woman that tries to do her job well and help ordinary russian people from her position.
11:03 no she wasn't, anyone paying attention knew what was going to happen since 2014
2:36 "the day of light" 💀
Heavy GT . Hopefully you peaked curiosity for the younger Gen to look into the history and become healthy wealthy and wise.
Allan, you ever played combine?
The empire really is a text book example how dictatorships are made
Like Trantor in Foundation, Orus in Jupiter Ascending, Fifth Jerusalem in Xenosaga, Imperial Terra in 40K, etc. The center of population is always a target, and is always proof of the old saying, never put all your eggs in one basket.
Is senator Xiono Allen’s uncle?
Thank you so much for talking about that Russian „Technocrat“ I didnt know that and it makes me sympathize with her. I dont think she had much of a choice to stay or not….
All hail the Allen empire
THANK YOU for bringing back that reminder that your allegiance is to the republic, for democracy! Yes!
Given what we know about what happened to EVERYTHING where they finally settled.. woulda said they shoulda maybe stuck with tradition on this one
This is about Star Wars or the US circa 2016-2023?
I always loved Coruscant; extremly high skyscrappers and hover cars/flying cars but never saw the surface of the planet if it has a visable surface as we got one?...
You know after the sequels what the hell happens to the government the new republic was basically completely destroyed did they just go back to coruscant is it complete anarchy
I believe like in the history of the Old Republic to where the Republic is in the brink of Destruction but decades possibly centuries they rebuild so I believe that's what's happening
14'45 : at least the german scientists caught by the soviets were sent to work camp (for scientists obviously).
Why haven’t we seen Chandrila as the New Republic capital in _The Mandalorian_ series?
I feel like u may have (very briefly) mentioned this in another vid recently, but can the purgil be killed? They obviously die of old age etc, but I don’t think we’ve ever seen one killed, and after seeing them go through the minefield seemingly fine, probably just very annoyed, I have to wonder if there are any weapons (short of the death star/starkiller base) that could do it
And love ur vids
I just assumed why that government building in Coruscant was still being used was merely the transition in trying to move the capital to another world. Think about it, we are talking about a big-ass galactic civilization. Something that huge would definitely take a lot of time to finish the process.
Allen: To me "The galactic empire" reminds me of Cerberus (Mass Effect) (pro-human extremist group) The Empire = sucessful cerberus - Emperor Palpatine= Illusive man with super powers/biotics
I would like to live in undercity of coruscant
Wow has he finally started grading his footage??
Aye new vid
Corusant
Me be like: Croissant
Arccorp area 18
His name is Alan.
🎶Oh, the widows and cripples
In old London town
Who owe their large pensions
To Werner von Braun🎵
The more you think about the galaxy spanning entities (republic, empire, what ever) and the problems such entities would encounter in their organization, longevity of institutions, communication, companies and economy... the more you realize that the Imperium of Man in WH40K is not the "over the top caricature" but actually the closest thing you'd expect to see in a galaxy spanning political entity - completely opposite to idealistic representations of Star Trek or completely void of actual sense of scale as in Star Wars.
There finally goes Dr. Taub. Wonder how many children he now has.
I am corious about how they will re introduce Coruscant in the saga. Call it Coruscant, Hosnian Prime or what you want, but for the main audience is the capital planet, and the capital planet was destroyed in The Force Awakens for a trilogy in wich the main order was destroyed and everything happened in a struggle for the galaxy beyond it. Happy about not putting it in Episode IX as Trevorrow wanted, going back to Coruscant has to mean a lot as the forgotten in the shadows planet it should be right now (I am curious about how a megalopolis like that is going without a Republic to feed its massive population, have they gone full cannibal Siege of Suiyang style?) and Rey for sure has to deal with it as a world dragged into the darkness by her own grandfather
In another canon, I imagine Palp didn't go full meddler with his command staff and the Galactic Empire flourished under his rule.
"Operation Paperwork"
ha
Lots of darkness there.
The majority of German bureaucrats served before the 3rd Reich and were reinstated by the allies after the war. You need these experienced people to run a country.
New title catchy af lol
i wonder if Dave Filoni Is pulling a sneaky little retcon by putting the government back on Coruscant. I don't think that they ever said on screen that Hosnian Prime was the capital. I know they said it in the books/comics but supplementary material hardly matters in the Disney age of Star Wars.
They call it Hosnian in TFA.
Long live Coruscant!
I really thought that the New Republic capital was coruscant and that it was destroyed by star killer base.
I don’t get your claim. Coruscant was routinely used in the lore until Disney through the lore out. To what do you refer that it was not used by the New Republic? The New Republic and later Galactic Alliance both used it as their capital.
2:36 You mean the light of day?
Did we ever get any information on how Coruscant was compared to earth?
This was years before Hosnian Prime became the capital of the New Republic, no?
Please some company (not Electronic Arts) give us New and 100% SW RTS Game 🙂1:25 & lil forward. Well spoken and of course everything 🤠
"day of light?" surely u mean "light of day?"
Which is greatly feared galactic empire or the soviet union?
Am I the only one for who Coruscant sounds like an absolute hellhole to live in. A planet with nothing but kilometers of canonically badly lit tunnels and decrepit infrastructure, and a thin layer of opulently rich on the top. For all the "oh this planet is totally dependant on exported food" in the canon (assuming Clone Wars is canon) and how bad it is, average citizen in Coruscant has much worse chances at good life than pretty much any climatically comparable planet.
Imagine Batman-like detective shows in Coruscant
bruh how sustainable is it to have a planet wide city ?
Rip terras
Is the Clone Wars Republic the closest thing to a Star Wars-like NATO?
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Coruscant is Chicago? Huh? Come again? How does that even factor? OH!!!!!! I bet someone's from ChiTown or at least has a fondness of it.