USING GUITAR PLUGINS LIVE ON STAGE?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- I go on a mission find out if it's possible to use plugins live. Together with a Macbook and a UAD Arrow Audio interface. With technology becoming better and better, will it be something more we see of in the future? Probably! Let me know what you think in the comments.
UPDATE. The "secret" plugin was the STL Howard Benson Plugin that I use for leads. Wasn't sure which video would be up first so I censored it.
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You look like how i imagine Jesus looks.
Should check out the omec teleport!
Ola, what is the back track?
I am so on board with this. I am doing this with bands for years now, also check out humanitys last breath and they are doing the same
Like I said in last video, work with an effects company and build a dedicated unit to replace the laptop, an effects 'pedal' that can be programmed at home and used live, with the option to tweak . Slap the Ola emblem on it, make millions, give us all free Solar basses :P
Ola, listen to the blobfish.
YOU, I like you :D Just basicaly a mini PC loaded with a proprietary DAW simple enough for 'noobs' but enough features to be usefull for pro's , and obviously load any VST's you have, I have a feeling it would sell
Even if Ola didn't do that, I hope someone has that idea because it sounds amazing. If Ola ever did that though we know it would be damn near perfect lol
That's a really great idea, would be a fantastic bit of kit!
Considering that the MOD 2, which is basically just a bunch of open source plugins and a plugin host running on an embedded linux computer in a special purpose housing, sells for something like 600 €, you're probably more right than you know.
This so sick. As a guitar player and interning producer, this is quite eye opening and just all around informative. This is so sick!
I've been using such a setup like this with my band for quite a few years now. We let the whole band go through the windows 10 laptop using a Focusrite interface and Ableton Live and it really works like a charm. We also used midi footswitches for band practice and jamming.
This is SO seriously cool! The automation thing blew my mind.
It is true that you may run into some fragility issues with a laptop rig live. It’s also true that your tubes, batteries and cables can go bad, too. So if the argument for a completely analog rig is that it’s reliable, I’d like to take issue with that here and now.
This is fantastic. Your tone is stellar as always man. I can see this being the next big thing.
You got me pumped with this! I’ve been searching on this subject for 2 days and then I stumble upon your video. Thanks Ola for the info, never thought of automation for brining in and out the sims. Genius! A bit tedious at first but sounds like it gets the job done. Gonna try this with the Mesa Amplitube sims. 👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸
Now all we need is a Ola Englund "The Swede" signature plugin based on the Randall Satan.
YES or an Ola FX automation pedal board system.
Biasfx metal pack has an ola englund satan
But it's not an Ola Englund "The Swede" Satan, wich has extra bass.
shiiit that would be awesome! Ola we need this!
If my drummer could stay in tempo with logic that would be cool
some in ears have metronomes built in. Maybe he cant hear what's going on with mudded sounds
BRILLIANT!!! I've been proposing this type of system for some time now and I"m thrilled to see you using something like this. I'll be money you end up using for Live Band shows in the future.
Definitely think this will be the future for a lot of live applications. Apple’s Mainstage has implemented this concept for a long time but I like the idea of using the DAW for everything: backing tracks if needed and all of your automation. You’re essentially setting up your entire performance 🤘🏻
We’ve this with our band and it very convenient as you dont have to bring two 4x12 and weighty tubeamps on the stage. Everytime better live sound!
the demo songs sound amazing! Also, I’ve watched several clinics and they also have this kind of setup, which I observed is very handy and easy for them to go with the program. So maybe we are already in the age where plugins are embraced in live situations :)
Hey Ola Swedun, the Eng. Makes perfect sense. I think you should do more of these tech tips and methods videos. You know a huge amount about all of this.
it's great to see people who actually have the balls to use that kind of setup on stage, that's pretty innovative. thanks for sharing
Thanks for the info Ola!!! I’m an old tube and pedal guy, getting into this computer stuff is a little daunting but your info really helps!!!
Maybe not the first one to try this method, but atleas you put the effort to share your experiance! Thank you for this Ola, you are one of a kind!!
Nice and informative vid as always man
Laptops have been the central piece of gear of karoake DJ's for years. Spills, drunks, daily gigs and they make it work. I think the reliability issue, while valid, isn't as big as one would think.
the iPod nano is the wedding DJ's #1 competition :D
Good point, though some may point out a metal show isn't quite the same dynamic as a solo DJ on stage. A good metric might be to know the number of laptops DJs go through in a year or per number of shows.
A backup laptop is easier to carry than a backup amp.
@@GregRickard And cheaper as well.
@@evilgremlin True. You could get a pretty nice laptop for the cost of a new valve amp. And it would serve other purposes.
Even John Petrucci with dt are runing protools session live. I've seen that even jp's sounds are switched via midi commands in protools. Good Job Ola! Big fan!
I know its an older video but you just earned my sub! Thanks man you are going down same path I am. I appreciate that you are sharing some of the methods you have experimented with. This is the future I know it.
There's another advantage to using in-ears when playing through computer plugins... it lowers the real-world latency. If you have, say 10ms round-trip latency in your processing, you have to another 5-15 ms latency depending on where your cab or monitor is. By using in-ears, that analog latency (distance) is removed.
Great great video, you're always one step ahead of the others 🤘
holy... was wondering how you were doing those switcheroos with the guitar the sound. props man! cool stuff as always! love your videos :D
You just saved me. This Is exactly what i needed. Thank you Ola
I used this method few months back on stage during my office event. Where I played some melodic death with my laptop and USB powered audio interface. Works perfect for me and it's very portable n mobile.
I have started to use Mainstage 3 and I think I am in love. It's a great live tool. No need to open the Logic project and it's great for a song set...
Very cool!!!! The two outputs (L/R) were plugged into two different channels of a mixer? Or a speaker power amp? Thank you!! 🙏
I came here just looking at UA Arrow reviews but this is a really creative fresh idea on automating signal paths/FX. Well done!
12 years ago I played live gigs using Guitar Rig 3. I had 7ms latency
Yeah I've used it, that pedal they had was pretty sick.. could easily automate loop pedal/expression pedals too
Yeah I had a native instruments guitar rig live IO interface doing that - size of a cigarette packet and ran Amplitube at something daft like 32 sample buffer.
One thing I noticed is smaller less complicated USB interfaces with solid drivers are best for live performance latency. Firewire at the time was better but less reliable on non-apple laptops due to a lot of non-TI chipsets.
That's guitar rig for you
and 12 years later we are stuck with shitty usb 2.0 powered audi interfaces,,,, they fucking dared to kill FIREWIRE man, and they did it....
@@johnnyguitar7921 Now of course we have USB-C- which is the direct descendent of FireWire!
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Ola!
I´m using this system combining vst plugins and a tube amp since 2 years (before to watch it in the Ola videos i was the only who was using it at least that i knew it, although I thought that probably more people would have the same idea), and specifically i use a Ignite amp head and overdrive, cubase 5, focusrite interface, into a normal laptop with windows 10, plugged in the fx return of a bugera combo amp.... The result: sounds nice, i have all chanel changes, boost, delay and effects, etc completely automated and till nowadays 0 problems in live shows
What focusrite interface do you use? Thinking about maybe getting a clarette but not sure the usb C (or thunderbolt 1 as they are the same more or less) will be fast enough latency wise.
@@peterrovaniemi138 I use focusrite saffire 6, in the buffer length i have choosen 2 ms (with plugins is more), but latency isn´t a problem if you have a fast and good computer (mine is a HP i5)
That s my goal, have u tried wet dry wet configuration?
I don get the precise signal chain
As someone who has lugged around cabinets, heads and pedal boards for over a decade... I am ready to start using live plug-ins yesterday!
your videos always crack me up :)
It can also be really useful in band situations. A lot of modern metal bands use backing tracks for synth and other programmed sounds. Why not use the automation for the guitar at the same time? It's worth considering! I don't really think reliability should be a big problem.
Personally, I'm done carting amps around. So happy for my Helix and maybe this is the next step.
Thanks again Ola 👍
wow. slowly im understanding what is this plugins thing. from a peds user like 15 years ago, now that im getting back to my beloved hobby. plugins got my attention. thanks for this post.
Brilliantly video! Pretty good job as always Mr. Jesus!!! I’d really like to see the settings you’re using with the Nameless Suite sometime!!! 😉
Thank you for sharing this Ola! 😊
Hey Ola! Even I use my laptop during my jams and performances but the only problem I had was to change presets live. The only solution I could figure out to go to clean patch was to lower the tone and the volume knob on my guitars but that didn't work out so well. But thanks to you I know what I have to do to change my presets! Thank You!
Exactly when I'm digging this stuff. Could you do another video explaining more about how getting familliar with this software? Thank you for being such dedicated to what you do, you really are a source of inspiration for me. Cheers from France Ola !
Really thinking about ditching my axe fx for this route. Trying the nameless plug in trial and I'm in love. Unbelievable tone which handles really low tuning like a charm. So much clarity and brutality at the same time!
Yes, I've been using a laptop with bias fx to a cab 4*12 for more than a year and never had a problem and super happy with it. Best choice I ever did in gear
Great video Ola, very informative. The future is most certainly digital, it's only a matter of time though for us amp lovers, we can still use them if we wish. I'll embrace both!
Very cool, thanks so much for the video!
Merci Ola ! This is the way to go for clinics and also for recording and make a living of it. Now, I can start my personnal studio recording at peoples home !
Awesome solution and great video! btw that secret lead plugin sounds to me very "nevermorey" :D
Very interesting video!!! Completely agree that reliability is THE issue..as for the rest, once all different needed sounds are programmed, all you need to care is focus on guitar playing, which is perfect! Thanx for this cool lesson, Ola, and keep it up🤘
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That is badass. Very cool setup.
I went to a similar route like you, I just finished a show with just my guitar, an iPad, an interface, and a bluetooth MIDI pedalboard. Sound is great, no latency issue, my rig got a whole lot smaller and a whole lot more efficient, and I like this new iPad setup. I think this is the future, I'm not sacrificing anything in terms of tone and reliability so far, so yeah, just like you I will continue using this digital solution.
what program are you using?
Thank you for showing me this Ola, as a proud owner of an Axe-Fx II and MFC-101 owner, this has given me a lot to think about! ^_^
That seems a pretty smooth and solid rig.
Also the guys from Periphery use a similar setup where they have Logic changing all their AxeFx patches.
It seems a very convenient setup for clinics and you are left with just making sure the venue has electricity.
Hi Ola! I believe that this approach is the future. I actually did a similar setup for a performance back in 1997. Of course it didn´t sound anywhere nearly as good back then, and I had to combine it with some rack hardware to pull it off. Had my clunky big ass computer cabinet and huge CRT-monitor on stage, and performed with just my guitar. I did another similar setup of this for my Bacherlor´s degree about 10 years ago, this time with a iMac, Logic, some automation and a Boss GT-8. Keep up the good work :) Cheers from Norway
Ola this video helped me a lot on my flow! I was thinking to look on how to do this but didn't have the time to search it.. watching your video I started to do this trick one a project & bingo!!!
This setup is badass! Technology is amazing.
Thanks so much to bring that subject to the table 😎👍🏻💥
Thank you I've been wondering about this question for a long time
Imagine if logic, cubase, ableton etc made a computer (or DAW console). It would be like a pc but locked to only be used for music production. Lieterally nothing else.
I think that would be genuinely amazing. Have it built like a interface which would be robust, and gig-able
Awesome Ola , you’re embracing new technology and learning how to make it your bitch !! I see this eventually making its way to the live gigs probably with you leading the way !!
I know you are just trying to stay humble, but you have a large dedicated fanbase who show up to support you in what ever you do, please don't call them small... while I am sure you are just being self deprecating, in this case you are not shitting you, but us I was proud of how much we support you cause you are an awesome artist, and deserve it.
U know this is freaking clever!!! Dude awesome!
You're awesome! Thank you for trying out this solution! Makes life and live gigging easier :)
Such a great video. Good man.
Great video. Very informative!
This- “if it works”.. lol 😂 I love that.
I know NiN uses LiveStage and they run all sorts of stuff through there (decapitator, echo boy, to name a couple) It's handy for a live show where you don't need a pedal board anymore. Just have your drummer have a midi controller send the midi out (even if you don't even use midi) controlled by bass drum / snare / whatever and everything just works. You can go from acoustic, to high gain to lead to whatever parts of the song need whatever. It's like having your tech backstage do this, except done via logic / mainstage. It's been part of my rundown for a few years now. Now it's bring a half stack, head and run the audio via interface > mixing boards and your in ears and boom. All you get to do is play and no touching anything as it all just works. Takes a while to get this set up, but once you do it's really good.
man this dude its ridiculous with the stuff that he plays its so fucking hard i love it.
Fantastic idea!!
Dear Ola, this was really helpful, wow, thanks a lot!! Almost every word was what I needed. True!! All the best.
I guess, checking this setup in Moscow would be a little different by now... I will try it at home first 🙂
i really like Ola, i've only subbed to his channel a couple of weeks, me and ola should be neighbours, it would be one long party !
this is so cool ola.
With my band we were playing just with a computer for a few years now and so far its been working!
I think it is great that technology is pushing the boundaries of real amps and effects pedals.
Only a matter of time till a laptop plug in will replace a tube amp.
Like one of the guys below said if you can make the plugin outside of a Daw and have it switchable via a pedal then they would be great.
Really nice, we'll have to see if it works in the long run :)
Been doing this with Leo Pou plugins in Studio One. Pretty awesome to see Ola is doing it now too! I always set the buffer rate to 64 and as long as youre careful about not using CPU hogging VST's there shouldent be latency. Some reverbs do cause issues be careful and see what works for you and your PC. Ola makes anything sound brutal though!
It must be weird calculating in your time travel moments when planning videos. Always fun :).
You could also use something like Bias Fx or Amplitube and connect a midi controller like the MeloAudio MIDI Commander, that way you could change between completely different presets in the same way you switch a pedal on/off, and also link it to a especific pedal, in a specific preset you can choose which pedal you want to be able to turn on/off, even configure a wah or volume pedal with a expression midi pedal
That clean riff was funkyy
Thanks for the great video Ola. I've tinkered a bit with plugins, but found that it's hard to nail down a nice tone. Do you have any videos, or plan on making a video about how you sculpted your tone in this video?
Me and my bandmate always use one focusrite 2i4, Cubase and amp sims with laptop for rehearsals and shows. I set my favorite settings and tones with automation.
Hi! I think this method is going to be used more and more often as the time and progress go by. Surely, it might become a part of the digital/modelling amps religion and who knows how are people going to play in the next few decades. Perhaps a rig is going to be minimised to the size of a computer and a USB interface. I on the other hand love the vibe of a roaring, raw, intimidating tube amp, it's heat emmision, the smell and sound. But at home I started to use plugins to record demos and practice - this makes my life with neighbors and wife much easier :D
Great video, Ola! Could you make a video teaching how to program the plug in changes automatically?
automation is so nice and consistent in ears
Most helpful...Thanks!
Looks perfect!
Great video Ola! Always wondering about your laptop setups.......
You sir, have a killer sound.
I love it! Your videos introduced me to your bands. They sound amazing man.
What/ how do you do to get that sound?
Very cool. I'm gathering a midi pedalboard could be hooked up too for manualy changing preamps, cab sims and effects if needed ?
I adore you, Ola!
whats the song at 9:15
This Ola dude is f@cKin awesome
Very Well said, my man! For those who can only criticize jamming thru a DAW, Plugins, Cab & IR Cabs. You don't know what your missing. I personly was like this back in the early '90s when it came to the solid state, modular, emulator amplifiers. i.e. amplifier without valves. However, fast forward to 2010 to present and I own 5 valve amp 2 modeling combo amp. I have changed how I feel about them. Technology has not only made modular amplifiers a contender it has brought many tonal variations into my arsenal. Even more, the same thing can be said when you run your signal chain thru your computer into a DAW, vst plugins, Effects & Impulse Response Cabinets. They bring tons of sound and tonal options to the table with some mean tones. Every person asked, "can you tell what one of my amps I playing in this track" there answer 95% of the time is yes! The answer is alway's one of my tube amps or any random valve-amp. If they don't know me well. The other 5% just answer honestly with, " I don't know"!
mind blown at 5:30. Just wow. Never thought of that!
computers are o.k. for home use recording into my DAW. Sounds good, I love the automation , fun.
thanks ola, these mixing videos and paranormal videos are the only kind on youtube that dont make me want to kill myself! keep it sick brother \m/
Hey Ola! Love this video. I’m wondering if you are using software monitoring inside logic? Or you doing some monitoring routing? I just got a similar Apollo interface and been struggling to set it up for using guitar plugins inside logic.
My last gig I used Amplitube on iPad Air 2 on an Alesis iO Dock II. It went very well, and people thought my sound have even improved!
Ola, what do you think about taking an interface, routing it into a tube power amp & connecting it to an FRFR 2X12? I thought that could give me some pretty versatile tones.
Sound very nice dude