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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- Always wondered how you can lubricate your lekker switches or grease your stabilizer wire. In this video, we will deep dive on different methods of lubing and some general tips and tricks. Using the Wooting 60HE.
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00:00 Intro
00:36 What do you need?
01:17 Remove keycaps
01:41 How to remove the lekker switches
03:53 How to remove the stabilizers
04:39 Opening lekker switches
05:13 Krytox GPL 205G0
05:58 Basic lubing
06:45 Advanced lubing
08:52 Reassemble the lekker switches
09:52 Grease the stabilizers
10:41 Reassemble the stabilizers
11:22 Put everything back together - บันเทิง
I saw Optimum Tech review your keyboard, I don’t think i’ve ever wanted, no.. NEEDED something so bad I literally made an account on the website already. When i’m old enough and get a job ill 100% get your keyboard! You guys are awesome!
😅 or just ask family for money between your birthday and Christmas. You don’t really need a job until you’re 18 focus on school lil bro
I pre ordered one because of optimum tech
@@exot1c_dark066 school, ok then what? University? Then what, a low wage job? Start a business of some sort and you will reach the status of all your idiotic teachers combined, just grab some advice from the real world by Andrew Tate or look elsewhere
well by that time prolly there will be smt new on the radar but yeah good thing u got smt to look forward to
You ever get your keyboard? Just curious.
cant wait for the keyboard to arrive. im part of the eu-sokken order but damn its great to see that you guys put this amount of effort into everything concerning the keyboard! great job as always :D (probably will come back to look at this tutorial again to lube the switches at some point)
happy christmas and holidays everyone!
Thanks a lot for the lovely words, wrckls! ❤️ You too a happy new year, and wish you all the best and joy. 😁
Well how was it? 😁
Bought these products! I'm looking forward to receiving it. Thank you to everyone who made these wonderful products.
I can confirm that lubing these just a TINY bit more, especially the springs, takes this keeb from great to dreamy. Especially if you transplant to a high-end case. Over the top!! Loving it!!
Hello!
I wanna give this a go, did you lube all the parts he did in this video ( the switches ) I wont do the stabilizers im pretty sure.
@@peggeMEGANo need to lube the stabs for the wooting. They lube them really well unless you want a specific lube type
@@B3L13V3R Some arent as lubed as others would like and some can tell that
What case did you go with? Wanted the Tofu so bad but they dont sell it anymore
@@PsychoOn360Hz I was able to get the TOFU60 in powder coated white before they were sold out. I got it as soon as they had stock as I was told they sell out quickly.
My keyboard is already ordered! Now i need more things to mod the shot out of it when it arrives! Ty guys to bring something new and revolutionary to the market
Ty for this video, will come in handy when my 60HE comes!
I never loved any keyboard as much as my Wooting, but today, given that each key is in 4 pieces, with 100+ keys, doing my first maintenance after spilling liquid over the whole thing, I'm not so happy. But hey, after another day or so I'll get back an amazing and renewed keyboard. Also, this video is very helpful.
Liquid is always nasty, especially if it's a fat and/or sugar containing drink. Regardless of how we protect the PCBA, you need to clean out the entire thing or else it'll just start to mold inside, degrade PCBA faster, and keys get sticky!
So good job taking it apart!
I've been waiting for this vid! Thx for the tips
You're welcome! Good luck, and perhaps share results in Discord? I am curious.
^Sander
I ordered can’t wait to receive it 👍🏽❤️
What a great Video… Love it, its a very well explanation right here
You gotta be kiddin me. Cant wait spending a whole day doing very precise manufacture work
Then don't 😂
Yooo, that tutorial is actually crazy good and detailed. How often should I lube the keyboard?
Counting my pennies till i can buy myself one of these boards, truly innovating in the peripheral market.
Just got done lubing and tape modding mine :) First time for everything. It all feels much better
Ayy nice!
Same hahaha
@@itzjsl7415 dang that was 9 months ago!!! The keyboard still sounds great btw. Used the lube they sell
So nice that the wooting 60 he comes w a wire keycap puller
The only reason you "Should Not" use Krytox 205g0 on your stabs is strictly a cost issue, it's expensive and considered a waste when other lubricants like Dielectric Grease or the Molykote EM-50l you showed can do basically the same job on the stabs, neither works better or worse so i wouldn't go as far to say you outright "Should Not" use 205g0 for stabilizers, it's just more cost effective to use something else unless you don't have anything else on hand, then going out & buying something else specifically for stabs when you only have one set to lubricate would be more wasteful.
Amazing job guys, very helpful! My batch is EU-Broek and I can’t wait to receive it. How often would be ideal to lube the keyboard?
Lubing once will basically last you an eternity. You don't really have to worry about relubing it.
Do you guys sell heavier springs for the switches ? Thx. Love the board
I hope that you guys will one day do screw-in stabs instead of plate mount. Really love the innovation here, but I think I'm just too far down the custom modded keyboard rabbit hole to go back haha! Will buy myself a wrist rest to replace my dying foam one though.
I feel ya, once you got in the rabbit hole you won't go back. 😂 I hear ya, and others of course. I chuck the feedback right to the team. Can't say it will happen, but if it will we will let you guys know ASAP. 😉
Also you'll love the Wooting wrist rest. I used the foam one for a while, and switching to the wooting is the best. But of course I am an employee now so how trustworthy is that, haha.
^Sander
Delta hub had some good wrist rest i got 2 regular and 1 with the strap for my mouse, it does the same thing as a arm sleeve and a wrist rest, for each individual hand. Wootimg They should collab with them.
Odd that you would pass on a keyboard that is technically superior in every way because it is only 90% of the way to a custom sound and feel . The keyboard is incredible. There is nothing like it anywhere
@@Masoch1stbecause not everyone cares about gaming performance, and not every pro gamer uses one of these and is stil better than “good” players who use this.
Your own skill is still more important than the technical differences this would provide. Buying this won’t make shit skills better, so if someone doesn’t think it’s worth it, and would still rather use a custom, chances are they probably have a reason why.
@@RiceCubeTech sorry but you are just wrong. there are many games where this keyboard provides a clear and direct significant advantage that basically any skill level can take advantage of. this is WAY better than any custom for gaming, you have no idea what you are talking about.
i've noticed youre offering PC switch plate kit on your website, was wondering if its possible to maybe have screw in stabs as an option on some future plates. thats if it can be fit in the same form factor. just an idea, id pay like £40 if a plate like that existed
Awesome, I’ll save this vid so I can lube the switches once I get this board, preordered the 60he after watching the Badseed Tech review and mod vids. Super excited, great job guys
Good luck on your modding journey! Soon, we plan on making a video on all the mods that have been done on the 60HE. I'd love to see yours in there. Make sure to share it in the 60HE modding channel on our Discord. 😁
^Sander
What lube should I look for if I can’t purchase from you guys? Anything specifically I should be looking for or just stabiliser and switch lube on google?
Hei! I got my 60HE last week, its very nice :) are you working on a solution to make the buttoming out sound quieter? and also are you working on a aluminum case for the 60HE?
i am watching this video even though you dont ship to morocco i am consulting your website everyday to see if there is an update hopefully you will be able to ship to morocco soon
75% layout would be the dream!
Do you have to lube your keyboard upon it arriving or is it already like this stock??
This looks like an insane amount of work
I know right. Just to dampen the sound a bit. Pretty ridiculous in my opinion.
It is, but with a podcast in the background, you just slowly get through it. End result feels very satisfying.
@@Wooting I am intrigued. What is the benefit, is it just sound? I dont mind clicks
Nice! this should have a lubed version of the retail. I like all the reviews of this keyboard, hope it's worth the wait. :)
Did you mean a hand lubed version in the store or?
^Sander
@@Wooting Pre-built with a lubed version of the switches. I think that will make sense. So you guys can give better options. :)
@@jtechmkb it’s very hard to do prelubed keyboards without major price increases, as its very labor intensive. It’s hard and expensive to automate, not to mention the fact that using too much or too little lube on the keys can cause it to not sound as good, so you would also need the automation to be very controlled and precise, meaning that practically speaking the only way to lube it with decent results would be by having someone hand lube rhe keyboard. This however greatly drives the price up as lubing can take up to an hour, which means you pay for lube, equipment, expertise, and the wage of the person lubing.
@@ProllyP Alright. I can understand this since my experiences on pre-lubed switches is very disappointing. You have a good point sir. Being a local keyboard modder here in my location I can relate to what you are trying to point out. Hope I can get one this year though. Thanks and more power to you guys! ⌨️☝️
The costs would be ridiculous. That's a 5 hour job. Took me 7 but I'm slow.
Can’t wait to get my keyboard in January
So I'm in a dusty environment, lubing regular switches eventually leads to key chatter in a couple of months. Will this still be the case with the lekker switches?
Out of subject but great haircut sir 🤝
WE NEED THE TKL WOOTING
I watched badseeds latest mod of the wooting and there he used a similar switches to these and he said those are lubed well and didn't need lubing, and in the video he mentioned that he confirmed with you guys that the newer batches are factory lubed better? Is his description accurate?
I get lubing by hand(already are pre-lubed) improves the sound profile but does it make them any smoother? The switches already a lot more smooth than typical switches due to the different mechanism I'm skeptical lubing would make much difference in this regard.
It makes the feel more buttery, which feels smoother but isn't less frictionless if that makes sense. It makes a huge difference in sound, some in feel, a lot in typing experience.
How often do you need to do this ? When you first receive it does it need this done right away
Yeah so I just spent 6 hours cleaning and lubing my 60HE today. I've had it for almost a year so it's broken in p well. people say the switches are mid but if im not mistaken in fine print under the stem it says they're made by Gateron so take that as you will. My advice is to do your due diligence and fully, fully lube the switches. I think the stock leker switches are more firm than anything so I wouldn't worry about them jamming from excessive lube. I followed the tutorial and lubed all the parts of the switch, without over lubing any parts of the swtich, and they sound like a million bucks.
Hi !Do i have to lub the switches just with krytox 205g0 or another one is good ?
are we able to clip the stabilizers? ive had mine for about a week. i absolutely love it. but my spacebar is pretty rattly. was going to do some stab pads and clip the legs.
I do not know if you found your answer, but you CAN clip the stabs! I clipped mine and they feel/sound a lot better. You can also band-aid mod your stabs as well. The only downside is the stabs are plate-mounted, which is not a HUGE deal, but would be nice to see this. For a gaming keyboard, it's amazing that we even have the ability to do mods that you would normally see on a custom. The fact you can even swap the PCB into other cases is awesome alone.
Will we ever get a chance to have this in the Philippines?
i watched this video and i dont remember if there was any mention of switch films, and so i was wondering if those are fine and good or if it will affect anything for the lekker switch. i dont think it should but just wanted some clarification thanks
films don't fit the housings of the switch due to differences of molds between standard mechanical switches and the lekkers, already tried
films don't exactly fit but they still can be used and still work, just a bit more finnicky and you bend the film slightly while installing them.
We haven't personally tried this out, but BadSeedTech did make a video on this. I highly recommend you to check that out. :)
Link here: th-cam.com/video/igy_n3f7VeI/w-d-xo.html
^Sander
films make a VERY minimal difference between sound, i highly don't recommend filming unless you're using a very loose housing
was the first keyboard in the video that he said he uses at home done with the basic or advanced lubing? I liked the way that one sounded.
Calder applied the advanced method to it.
^Sander
@@Wooting thank you
@@kingsman3506 its not really that hard, its pretty ez imo - it just takes time and you gotta chill out and dont rush the procces.
if you use the 60he can u completely change to different switches and still get the really low actuation point or is it based off of the lekker switch itself?
It's the Lekker switch itself. You also cannot use other types of switches (traditional mechanical, or optical) with the 60HE PCB because the layout/size of the holes on them are different.
What @Grimlo9ic basically said. Unfortunately, you can't swap out the switches besides replacing it with Lekker switches.
^Sander
@@Wooting something about the pcb working completely differently when it comes to registering?
Will putting films on the switches make them too tight to fit into the plate well? I generally like the sound of filmed switches but won't do it if the plate tolerances are too tight.
We've had a few community members on Discord go through with films, you should ask them just in case, in the #I_have_my_60he channel, #60he community modding thread.
The switches are relatively tight in the plate already, and the films might increase distance from magnet to hall sensor which will make it less sensitive.
@@Wooting Thanks for the reply! After some research in the Discord I've decided not to put films on, because I don't want to effect the sensitivity of the switch. Excited to get my board soon!
Thank you for the video, very well done! On one part you mention that also the bottom of the cylinder in the stem could be lubed, that’s a little bit confusing. I assume you don’t mean the clear metal part because that would cause problems with the distance measuring?
If you don't want to take apart the switch, you can also just lubricate the circle shaped hole under the switch where the cylinder shaped stem with magnet goes back and forth. The lube doesn't affect the magnet. It'll just go straight through it.
@@Wooting thank you!
@@Wooting One other question. Can I use these little foam stickers which will be placed on the plate (so they will be right under the switches) or will these affect the performance in any way?
Is it true that the more recent 60he's are prelubed better than before from factory?
Did not find a link for alternative springs in the description nor do i see them on the website?
They stopped selling other springs but do sell l45 switches. They should have a new lineup of Lekker v2 and some new spring sets when 80he releases.
Does it have a numpad while on FN short cut ?
I want these keycaps!
Do you get the guaranteed mighty gavel after wrecking ball?
Any chance wooting can make a 65 percent keyboard? I need arrow and delete keys for my work. I also need a small keyboard to travel and don't want to compromise
is it possible to put my old stabilizer and plate onto the keyboard?
i cant find the lighter springs on the webbsite, are they not out yet?
These will be available again soon. I will let you know when.
With a brand new board is it worth lubricating straight away?
12:12 whoever put the wysi number on the 60HE you're the goat
Great. Can i get one before march ? 😋
I do be experimenting with the lube
13:00 I heard that you should put the switches south-facing if you have cherry profile keycaps that are not backlit. Is this true?
You need to see if the keycaps in row 3 collides with the switch. Usually only premium (GMK) Cherry profile keycaps have this issue. If that's the case, installing south facing will solve it yes.
“Sounds amazing right” me rn: NAAWWWW BRUVVVV THAT SOUNDS CRUNCHIER THAN CAPTAIN CRUNCHHHHHHHH
are these switches tapered to support cherry profile keycaps in north-facing orientation? I've seen videos where they did not change the orientation while using cherry switches but did not mention anything about interference
Most Cherry profile keycaps don't interfere. But we have seen GMK sets having problems. In that case, you can always rotate the switch 180 degrees, and you are totally fine. :)
^Sander
@@Wooting is it because GMK keycaps are recessed and sit lower compared to generic cherry profile caps? by the way I must say that your comms is fantastic. the update videos and the responses on the channel are informative and transparent. I've been writing about consumer tech for a fair bit of time, and I cant recall many companies who are comparable in this aspect.
If you tune your stabs well then you should be perfectly fine using 205g0 for your stabs. TBH I prefer using it for stabs.
so how often should I lube my 60he
Is lubing a must? can not lubing make the keyboard less competitive in the sense of delay/input lag/speed?
The keyboard is factory lubed out of the box. Some users want a different sound or feeling to their keyboard and that is the main reason people lube their keyboards.
It doesn’t influence the keyboard speed, delay or input lag in any way.
You could offer a service on the website for Doing it for us??
What watch are you wearing?
Anyone know what keycaps they are? they clean asf
Please make A TKL
Please make a tkl one!
I was trying to pull out the switches sidewise lol, luckily no damage and it was only one switch but still what a stupid mistake lol.
Does anyone know how long this will take for someone new at this? I need to know how much time to set aside. Thanks!
it took me 3 hrs to lube the switches.
@@keinplan2190 Thanks, ordered the lube set. Going to try lubricating my switches for the first time.
do u offer this as a service?
Should I clean the lube that is already on the switch before lubing them?
No necessarily.
hey! just got my wooting delivered. QQ - do I need to lube it if it is a brand new one or after a while of using?
Stock it arrives with pre-lubed switches which are smooth out of the box. Optionally, you can hand-lube them further to get a different sound from them.
@@Wooting sweet! Thank you.
Btw. Amazing piece of equipment so far :)
so. i lube switches with krytox 205g0. After 30 minutes of game(osu) 2 switches sounds like completely stock. what is the problem help lol
Do you need to lube it straight out the box? or does it come pre-lubed?
The switches come pre-lubed. Personally, hand-lubing it won't change the feel, as it is already fairly smooth. The most significant difference would be the sound profile.
Hi! do you think it's possible to switch the spring from tbose lekker switches with a lighter spring from a switch that has also 4 mm total travel?😅 I now it's wired, but i really want a light fell (around 30g)
all right, so, i saw the part with the springs... i thought i was the only one that thinked about this...😅🙃 sadly, u cant use springs from another switch but they give you the option to buy them separately, which is nice...
does having the ARM or AVR make a big difference for gaming?
I quote from the website, since Calder has written it so nicely 😁
"The new MCU compared to the current MCU is more powerful. That said, the current MCU still meets our requirements and expectations. There is no difference in performance and features for the time being.
We can even guarantee that regardless of the MCU, you can and will enjoy the comparable features and performance up until January 2024. After this date, we expect to exceed the capabilities of the current MCU and can't make the same guarantee anymore.
There will be one notable difference. The new MCU will have more available configuration slots for advanced features such as DKS, Mod-tap, and other potential advanced key configurations we might create. We expect the new MCU to store about twice the amount of slots thanks to its larger temporary memory (SRAM)."
^Sander
Hi do a spray dry lube PTFE can work on the lekker switches to thx ?
That I can't answer. Never tried.
@@Wooting ok thx for the reply
Are the keyboards factory lubed? Or is it possible to buy a pre-lubed keyboard?
According to the website they are pre-lubed, this might be new addition to newer batches. Just got mine and it is really smooth out of the box. I have custom keyboard with hand lubed alpacas and the wooting is really close to that when in comes to smoothness.
The lube application is very light out of the box but they are still really smooth. Would definitely recommend hand lubing them though
You should really show how to add bandaids to the side top and bottom ob the stab plate holes and improve rattle of the plate mounted stabs in the plate.
Or you just do the right thing and let us use pcb mounted stabs.
We recommend hand-lubing the stabilizers or put some excess lube inside the housing and see if that improves your rattle. Each sample is slightly different in terms of rattle. My sample doesn't rattle, so I am not sure if I would notice a big difference if I tried it out. But I will definitely take a look at after my vacation.
^Sander
@@Wooting I would buy another one if a revision 3 has screw in stabs.
You can see how people do it here (th-cam.com/video/B1TodVGvF2g/w-d-xo.html) it's not the holee mod.
Hi! This is a question from China! Will wooting60He be reselled in china? And are the light springs replacements on stock yet? Thanks! Just watched a video of you speaking perfect mandarin couple years ago (It’s about selling a keyboard in China and you made a joke about being single lolll) Anyways,really glad you achieve a lot to day!
Haha I remember that video! We discontinued selling in China due to the complexity and it not earning itself back for the trouble. At this moment we don't work with resellers (anymore) and will review working with them again in the future for selected countries. We deduct any VAT etc. from our international store shipping to China and provide worldwide warranty, in case you want to make the jump.
The light springs will be in stock next week. They just finished production and are on their way by express shipment.
- Calder
@@Wooting definitely will grab the keyboard from the website, love your work man
the keycaps at the start of the vid... where can i get them!!!!???
Working on it. 😃
We will update once we have more news, of course.
^Sander
Best keyboard ive ever seen lol
I thought that all the switches were pre-lubed? Would I have to clean the switches first?
The switches are factory pre-lubed, but a DIY job would always do a better job at it. You don't need to clean your switches, just make sure you use a thin coating. 😄
^Sander
arent the 60he's switches/stabs prelubed and greased? is there a sound comparison between the stock factory lube and lubing them yourself?
Sound comparison is pending. They are all pre lubed and it’s unlikely you’d need to grease the stabs. The switch can still make a difference with additional lube.
@@Wooting i see, im not a big lubing/customs guy in general but this seems very interesting!
My keyboard doesn't even feel remotely close to how it did before lubricating it. I owned it for ~6+ months now, and just lubed them yesterday, and the difference is night and day. It's never felt this solid/smooth/buttery etc.
I’d love y’all to just sell the pcb and switches. Since it can already fit in a tofu I’d love to be able to add my own foam mods, stabilizers etc.
We understand, and we hear more people about it. We are in the back checking if it is viable to do this. But don't get your hopes up.
I live in the Philippines and I tried ordering the Wooting Two HE but it doesn’t support my address please help.
Unfortunately we don't support the Philippines now due to complications with shipping. I'm sorry. :(
^Sander
@@Wooting I understand your concern.
Can you link me the music used in this video?
Been a bit of a while, so don't know what it was anymore.
We usually use music provided by Artlist.io, so it isn't available online anywhere really.
How often do you normally lube up?
After doing it once, you should be set for a while. There isn't really a standard time when you have to re-lube your switches. If you feel like your switches need some additional lubing again, you could go at it. Personally, I just keep it at once. But I haven't used a lubed keyboard longer than half a year so far.
^Sander
"Sounds amazing right?" Not really lmaooo
Is it possible to lube the Two HE, the same way, and dismantle it safely ?
Yes, it's even a little bit easier, as you'd remove the switch plate from the PCBA direct.
@@Wooting Awesome, thx !
Please sell standalone switches with the 50g springs 🙃 I’m to lazy to lube switches 🤣
You gotta pull in the effort my guy 😢
^Sander
Do I really need to lube the switches from a factory new 180 Euro keyboard? I’m still waiting for my wooting, but I’m just wondering
No you don't. They come pre-lubed and are smooth from the start. Lubing will mostly just change the sound.
factory lube is around as good as a hand lube batch, and lekker switches are smooth enough that you won't really notice the difference.
As a small but special company, I would offer you pre-lubricated parts from the factory. I don't want to start tinkering in this price range.
Can I buy screw-in stabilizers for the 60HE?
no
Only plate-mounted stabs are supported on the 60HE.
^Sander
@@Wooting are screw in stabs something in the question for the next one?
@@EF.BE.I We have taken note of the feedback, but for now no expectations that it'll become an option.
calder my angel
please tell me that the screws at 2:30 was an oversight? There is no way that those were designed on purpose to be that small to be a pain in the ass to screw back in. I'm so frustrated trying to even line that shit up?
This is why good screwdrivers have a magnetic head 👍
@@Wooting yup I had to get a magnetic screw driver and then it was easy
Can i put them in every Keyboard?
If you mean the Lekker switches, no. Those are only compatible with our own Wooting keyboards.
Never heard of this brand. Are your keyboards reliable?
We'd of course say yes, but that's something you'd have to check with reviews online. 😉
@@Wooting I checked some reviews and they were all good. But when I saw the price I was WOW! I'm more of a budget builder like a $40.00 to $60.00 keyboard then I mod them. Thank you for the reply.
Isn‘t the 60HE pre lubed? 🤔
It is, but it's always on the safe side for the switches. Best job is always you own job.
is the keyboard pre-lubed?
Yes, it comes with a light amount of lube. Switches are pretty smooth from the factory.