I am 72 and enthusiastic about how Sandy looks at design. As long as people like him where considered as disturbing, there was just business as usual and no innovation. So fortunately Elon came not from legacy auto! At Hyundai Group fortunately young engineers together with older experts, they did not really like in Europe, got ‚carte blanche, to realize outstanding electric cars with personality too! Fortunately there is change now and keeps personal mobility attractive because there is no alternative besides driving less and save ressources. 😎
Well, some people are not old, they used their time wisely and remember to always challenge the old and improve on it. This man has not turned old, but wise.
Having sponsors where Munro vets the design quality is genius, as it makes the viewer assured of the quality and for me that makes the advertisement much more valuable for the viewer and the sponsor. I usually just skip in-video ads, but in this case I did not and would also take the time to view them in the future for this channel.
Another channel that does (imo) quality in-video ads is Heavy D Sparks. Best part is he does pros and cons not just praise praise praise. Makes the referral more valuable because it tailors who will benefit most from sponsors product (line)
Yep. I can see the conversation now: Advertiser - "Can we sponsor one of your videos with XXX product?" Monroe - "Send a sample that we can destroy, and we'll get back to you..."
I echo this. I was about ready to start my double taps but right when I saw it spread out and disassembled, I went hold on and actually watched it through. I don't want "marketing" advertised to me I want the engineering of it explained to me. After all it is the reason I come to this channel. Not just Tesla stuff, I want to know what engineering is getting accomplished by every manufacturer.
One of the best Munro Live video showcasing the competitive advantage Tesla has over Ford, GM, ....in building cars, not just battery technology and EV powertrain but advantage in how to build the whole car. Mind blowing.
@@JackMott I did not know that. I know that some of the Chinese automakers are onto it. Which factory is the Ford one in? What pressure does it run at? Which model is it used for?
@@richardraymond878 Actually, I'd expect the announcement any day now of the first Tesla Gigacasting machine, designed and manufactured by none other than Tesla, If IDRA had said "no, we can't do that" when asked. But being Elon, if they had any ambition they couldn't say no. Mr. Pushy himself.
I can't even imagine how Sandy feels after years of wanting to make large castings happen in cars and finally seeing it come to fruition. Thank you Munro team for sharing this information with the world! I wish my dad were still alive to see these videos, he would have enjoyed them very much too. He did some diecasting and machine tool factory stuff back in the day.
Yes. I know some say Sandy is too enthusiastic about Tesla, he's not objective enough, but long-time viewers know it's because Sandy was frustrated for years when working inside Ford and then when consulting with large car OEMs - he knew the right ideas and they were so infrequently implemented. It sure is notable that he's had that 3-piece car casting mockup around for 15 years - recommended to many, and brought to fruition by only one company, one that hadn't seen it.
@@donjones4719 I'm pretty sure they would've seen it. You wouldn't see it everyday and thus you'd probably try to get every experience from things done before.
Especially after simply mentioning it in a video-- and then all the sudden they changed half of their factory around to follow his idea. lol.. Pretty crazy.
I love hearing a 73 year old man shouting to the industry to think outside the box, promote change and innovation. Proves yet again that change is a mindset and does not diminish with age but with attitude. Getting younger people to run things does not automatically induce change for the better.
"Getting younger people to run things does not automatically induce change for the better." It kinda does though, because the majority of older people in the business have developed the wrong attitude. That's not to say older people cannot indeed have the right attitude, Munro is a living example of that for sure.
It's great to see the improvements and how excited you are about them. That's why it's important to just tell it like it is. If you praise everything, it doesn't push for improvement.
@@Mrbfgray But even back then....Munro only hammered the body...not the drivetrain, electronics and battery pack. With the 'superbottle' probably being the 'swept of his feet' moment to fall in love with Tesla's innovative culture. If I recall correctly, after those things were analysed, a bunch of Munro employees bought a Tesla 😉.
Yeah tend to agree , although a massive petrol head myself and love N/A engines electric cars should have come on a lot more . Now there are 2 reasons for this 1 Nicola Tesla was ripped off by JP Morgan and it’s all about greed and money, not passion pride and innovation. So electric cars would have been developed sooner. 2 electric vehicles were around before petrol ones , it was only America that pushed the internal combustion engine to the mainstream as they had an abundance of oil to sell , that’s why the big yank v8s produced pathetic bhp per litre . It didn’t matter how inefficient they were as more oil was sold for fuel . Then ford etc exported the petrol engine car basically tow the world . All about money and greed eventually.
Holy cow… kudos to the Munro team for capturing that intro from Sandy. The passion, enthusiasm and pure excitement to educate came through loud and clear. Can’t fake passion like that and you captured gold right there. This video should be shown at the beginning of every engineering course across the country. Just awesome guys! And Sandy- thank you for trusting your team when they asked to produce this channel. Your content here is having a profound impact on so many… kudos to the #munrofactor !!!!
Yes it was good , but remember that they have been using castings and tig welding them to tubes in motorcycles for ages . About 10 years ago , Renault bought a injection moulding machine that could do a complete body for a small car . Long strand glass filled nylon is super strong for use like this .
I rolled my eyes when the sponsor popped in, and then I came out impressed with how you backed the product. I don't even need one of these and I want it. Great work explaining castings too. Great job guys.
His passionate "opinion" sounds like marketing brainwash from IDRA to me. And continues with the endorsement of shaving blades or the Anker product here in this video. For the casting: it is only successful, if other properties are in line with expectations as well: scrap rates of the cast pieces, acceptable quality with regard to blowholes/shrinkholes, low effort in post-treatment after a casting had been cast by the casting machine, handling efforts. It is only revolutionary and innovative, if it matches a number of these criteria, which he did not even mention. And in addition: whether the same casting can be put in Model 3 and Model, which likely isn't the case. So the large castings idea may match with some ways to build cars, but not with all of them, expecially when building many product lines in one factory. A true engineering standpoint would take that into account.
Every CEO should watch this video. Because I can guarantee you that the Chinese car companies are watching and rushing to catch up to Tesla. Lower costs mean you win in the long run and Chinese companies are very good at investing in the long run.
There is nothing disruptive about this lol…. Stop encouraging engineers to make less and less repairable vehicles and devices over and over again! When you go to the most remote places on earth you won’t see a car that was made entirely of single giant parts lol….
@@morrisg The next step is to make the entire unibody as a single casting, that way after an accident you can scrap the entire vehicle instead of just half of it.
Never seen Sandy so triggered!! This is pure passion of love for the work Munro carries out. Keep these videos coming, they're so informative and to the point !!! ♥️
The more passion, the more marketing and evangelism, and the less engineering. That's why I do not like Sandy's claims too much (with strong opinions on good or bad), but I like the statements from the other team members at Munro way better, which are way more balanced and more profound, than Sandy's are.
Sandy is hitting on all cylinders. Makes me delighted to see that the age of the mind is indeed separate and distinct from the aged skin and gray hair. He is a brilliant man, full of the sort of career-spanning knowledge that makes all of his observations so cogent and important. Bravo and well done, sir!
I had seen Anker products before and even owned one of their USB wall chargers, but I really didn't have a feel for whether they were worth the significant price premium... Seeing that you tore down their battery pack and still felt comfortable recommending it is a real vote of confidence!
Munro Live is going to be great for the future of manufacturing. There's a child or young adult watching this, who will develop a love for engineering and manufacturing, based on your content. We need more people thinking about manufacturing and less about law and finance. Thanks for everything you do.
Awesome video. Sandy was fired up. Tesla operates how artificial intelligence is supposed to operate. Faster iterations and progress than ever seen before. Constantly evolving.
Nice seeing the last three generations body in white side by side. The changes and improvement are striking. Morning cup of coffee + Sandy Rant = A most excellent start to my Friday Can you share the weight of each body in white?
It applies all through the production. Superfast Matt did a nice video on th differences between the original Model S handles, and the later ones. Part of the reason for the changes was early Tesla was not getting much response from the parts suppliers, but now when Tesla calls up, it's "Oh Hi! What can we do for you?" The newer handles are more sophisticated,, but much more reliable, and likely cheaper. Sandy has done lots on the superbottle, and then the Octovalve. It's all through the cars.
Great video and education. Those complain about crack fixing issue have no idea of how stiff the structure is. Every time you remove a join/bolt/weld and integrate two pieces in a continuous form, the stress transfer becomes more streamline and hence yields the structural rigidity. In short, more weld/join/bolt = higher risk of failure
@@andrewholdaway813 Agree with your point, that's why the engineers borrowed the power of FEA to simulate potential area of suspect for cracking if overstiffing issue exist and avoid it if not needed. Besides, the other factor is with the type of aluminum, which is more ductile than conventional aluminum. It has always been a tricky issue to balance stiffness and ductility for a structural part, not to mention ability to case...
Love this coverage and statements made in it. Thanks for brining up the damage to the casting since so many people fail to understand to damage the casting, you will be happy to walk out alive since you have crush cans etc to take most of the inertia. The financial saving for the Giga castings is crazy, not just in part cost being cheaper but also logistics, chance of failure, quality check, molds for the small parts, workers, fixtures all cost A LOT of money.
I know! I've been having this argument with people for years. If the frame/underbody is bent, even in a traditionally-made car, the insurance is going to write that off as a loss, and send you a check. One of my first cars was a Honda Civic. I got into a accident, which *looked* pretty minor, but I bent in the undercarriage by the front passenger door, and the insurance company wrote me a $12k check. If you're in a bad enough collision to bend the frame, you're getting a new car either way, so the "repair cost" is a moot point; they will never be repaired.
@@AMortalDefiant The only way most people learn about this is from an accident. A wildly destroyed single part e.g. bumper cover is cheap to replace. Two slightly broken parts costs twice as much. A crushed fender is a common unbolt-replace repair. A very slight wrinkle in the C pillar means that something is bent beyond repair.
When an engineer gets passionate, listen. That usually means it's one of those rare things that doesn't really have a technical trade off, and the only thing stopping us is bureaucracy.
Sandy's (well founded) ranting about striving to improve and advance the state-of-the-art reminds me of Steve Jobs saying "If you don't cannibalise your own products, someone else will" in regards to questions about the future of the then cash-cow iPod after the introduction of the iPhone, which nobody at the time thought would take off like it did (Jobs included).
This is exactly why I love this company. The management actually listens. They take their ego out of the situation and simply do what is right to create the best product. This is so rare.
Best line ever "but I'm not popular". Sandy and Cory - everyone loves your frank and unadultered honesty, please keep it coming, everyone is sick of the propaganda and MSM BS. You guys are the best.
Hands down your best video! Not because your glowing review of the Model Y castings, but the way you clearly articulate the differences between the 3 and the 2022 Y. You absolutely crushed it!
Stock value - I have a friend who kept away from investing in Tesla while I just kept buying,, especially in the last dip. He did end up investing a few shares, but then sold according to his fancy charts. He just didn't understand how Tesla is different, and this is just the car business section, not to mention solar, software, AI, etc. Thanks Sandy for making this clear and convincing!
if your really want a deep dive in Tesla stock valuation, I suggest you head over and subscribe to Solving the Money Problem Steven Mark Ryan is a bit sarcastic but on the money with his analysis and why Tesla is the ONLY automotive stock to buy (unless you enjoy flushing your money down the toilet)
So nice to hear Cost of Quality mentioned. Having been in the quality arena for 30 years, no one is so close to quality as Sandy. Also, process improvement is a large part of quality and no one exemplifies that better than Elon Musk and Tesla. Instead of Kaizen or TPS and step improvements, First Principles goes for the breakthrough process and is THE quality improvement methodology of the future. Sandy and Elon say so many quality related ideas such as reduced process steps, reduced parts, no spaghetti diagrams, Poka Yoke or mistake proof process, its just great! And Tesla has no problem with others seeing these videos because Elon has a mission to expand the knowledge, not hold tight to it. Thanks for the great presentation guys.
I am very proud and happy to work in this department at the GFBB in Germany after hearing these words and your comments (Special thanks to the great man for this beautiful (explanation
Good video, really liked the support for Herbert Diess at the end. Too many people are tossed aside by corporations and it can be a kick in the gut. It's good to stand up for a good man when he's down.
Wow Cory and team really like how you lined up 3 generations of Telsa next to each other and let Sandy give a master class on car body design evolution. Well done. one of the best videos ever!
Very nice demonstration. Good to see Sandy back in front of the camera. It is things like the giga casting evoltion that 'analysts' miss when they place Tesla in the same category as legacy auto. More Sandy videos please.
This is probably the best ever Monroe and Associates video I have ever seen !! They are always interesting, but I'm not a qualified engineer (wish I was!) and they are sometimes a bit complicated. But this time with the presentation of the 4 bodyshells and their evolutionary journey in such a short time, I got it, I really properly got it. Thank you both, Cory and Sandy - what a tag team - for giving me such a lesson that I will never allow myself to forget.
Love how you guys showed the drastic improvements they've made in manufacturing over such a short period of time. Also, the bit about Herbert Diess at the end 🙌
I love the Herbert Deiss comment. When I heard of his being pushed out of VW, my immediate reaction was seeing a disaster being implemented by the change. I got the impression VW is skeptical about EV's and they are going to pull a Toyota and bank on regulators to extend the electrification deadlines ad infinitum based upon their true inability to adapt in a more aggressive way. Deiss was holding the feet of the company to the fire on that score and they dumped him. Not good.
VW definitely isn't sceptical about EVs. They are sceptical about their bottom line as every other traditional automaker lol. Their hands are tied though, unlike Tesla's.
I'm skeptical of the change at VW. Herbert Deiss was realistic about the loss of jobs at VW, and the labor union reps on the VW Board really didn't like that. He didn't accumulate enough allies in the company and between that and delays at Cariad, VW's independent software division, holding up R&D of cars in other divisions, sealed his fate.
ev is garbage, just more control for government water powered and hydrogen powered is the only environmentally friendly engine, been around for decades but all patents denied.
Well boys...this is the video that puts both of you guys out front as engineers who can discuss realities in design where Mr. Average and Mrs. Average car owners can understand the evolution of vehicles. Buckminster Fuller would be smiling, knowing you are getting there. Well done...keep up the good work!
I feel like we've been waiting for this moment to arrive for more than 3 years and it shows Sandy is quite relieved/redeemed to see Tesla follow through so successfully.
I was proud of American ingenuity throughout this video. You are clearly the advisors a genius chooses to listen to. You share in the Tesla story. You share in the the story of every future auto made from these giga castings. Thank you for your service.
One of the reason Tesla will not certify rebuilt old wrecks with particular VINs - the technology (and parts) used to manufacture them is obsolete and not available
Pretty insane that Tesla can make these changes in such a short time on a production vehicle and charge $15K more while reducing its manufacturing cost and time. Pretty insane indeed.
@@vipahman Pretty insane that there was just a global pandemic leading to serious supply chain issues and nobody seems to realize how that directly relates to cost and pricing of EVERYTHING.
NOT in any way claiming what TESLA is doing is easy, they are really clever AND at the right time AND with the Finances. BUT To change a legacy company might be IMPOSSIBLE, there is to much baggage Probably the ONLY (Best?) way is how I understand Ford is doing it. Start A NEW subsidiary, build that up while dismantling the old one... You UNFORTUNATELY have to change a lot of skills, corporate culture and thereby people..
As my thank you to Munro and Associates, I’m not skipping all the advertisements in every reviews they presents because the reviews they’re giving us are not cheap. Munro Associates is tearing down expensive cars that all of us may see first hand from their expertise. I’m learning a lot from them when it comes to car manufacturing and engineering. Let’s help this channel by not skipping the ads. Cheers 🥂
It turns out Cory is not just an excellent engineer / consultant BUT can also have fun! Sandy's message, backed up by a quote from Dr. Deming, was perfect. Excellent work!
The progress is a great complement to both Munro and Tesla . Engineers at legacy auto must watch these and weep, they know what needs to be done but the suits get in the way.
@@ganymede3141 In the 33 years since starting my own business, I have also learned to NEVER ask business advice from the following: 1. Accountants 2. Banks and any banking staff 3. Academics (especially ones with "business degrees").
This is one of the Best videos I have seen from Munro Live. Showing the progress of the design and manufacturing evolution of the Model 3 has no better way to see it. THANKs for sharing this!
Absolutely love Sandy Munro's take on the giga castings. He is so right and his passionate discussion on the Tesla innovations make me very positive about Tesla/TSLA and its future!
Sandy is doing his best to save the US car industry by being crystal clear about what’s needed! I believe, however, he sees the Chinese automakers as being far ahead and annihilating the US car industry as it is now.
These last two posts by Sandy should change the whole world. If they listen!! It puts a new spin on a old saying: Getting better every day. Getting smarter everyday. Great Job Munro Team Spectacular Job Team Tesla
FINALLY, somebody knows and understands what innovation is! The TESLA way is love at first sight! Frustrating to see how most companies still work in 2020. Especially when you have to work for a Takumi engineer wanna-be! Sandy, I guess we speak Swahili for them :-)
Fantastic video, great to see Sandy so passionate and almost in awe at the pace and increase of innovation at Tesla, thanks to both of you, and the rest of Lean Design, for all you do and sharing it with us here :)
So good, just love how this blitz-evolution in vehicle architecture was spurred by Team Munro. More please!!! Thank you brilliant folks for contributing so much to promoting new Engineering Principles in Manufacturing in the USA & around the world.
Wow Sandy. You are a serious businessman with a great handle on your purpose. Every manufacturer should be asking you to review their assembly’s and implement your ideas, but you words for Mr Deitz showed your kindness and I agree with you. He knows his business.
I’m new to the EV world but so glad to have found this channel! I have a model 3 on order and I’m so excited for it. Sandy is such a great man! Thank you!
Because Tesla is run by engineers and not bean counters. To drive that point home, Elon fired 10% of the non factory floor admin employees (about 3% work force)
it's not like this concept was invented by Tesla... Audi did this so called Audi Space Frame Concept in the early 90's and some of this is still state of the art. It's a great concept, no question about it. But obvs. a much better marketing strategy.
"It takes several years to move a design for a car into production." ALL I.C.E. car makers "As quick as our suppliers can deliver, we can change a car's production design - accomplished in MONTHS." Tesla "Production improvements CAN be made at the speed of thought." Sandy Munro
Gotta say, I loved the breakdown and endorsement of the Anker system. Before I buy something I always look at product reviews, but where can you get a product review with a full teardown and engineering examination? Munro Live! 🍻
Love your excitement. THE SPEED OF MUSK. This is historic. I own a model Y, X, and 3. Best vehicles in the world. Plus fill Up at home with my solar panels. I have owned many exotic cars and previous gear head. Not any more
Agreed, good move by Anker indeed. I've move them up in my brand ranking regard based on this review. I've read good reviews about Anker for a few years, but a Munro kudo really moves the needle to the high side of regard for me.
I know nothing about cars or metallurgy but I feel like "Peter Venkman" right now. It makes me smile to see the evolution of a car company, like Tesla, doing so much to make the world a safer place.
Thanks Sandy & Co., this is the best information I've enjoyed today. I think a useful abbreviation for around the 13 minute mark, is that good enough has fairly well known costs and little deviation, whereas perfection can and will support infinite costs, forever. Or something like. Looking forward to more. Motorcycle industry was doing the same dreck 40 years back, when I bent formula and fuel MC frames.
Sandy’s swag meter is at 9000 in this video, and I love to see it.
" his Reading is .....over 9000 " - FREEZA.
Casually tells Elon to hire Diess
That's why I'm here
Bruh, this will become classroom material. Holy smokes, what a legend.
Max level engineer. 9999/9999
Insanity of the video is that a 73 year old is telling the youngsters to embrace innovation/change. Truly amazing attitude from Sandy!
You dont stop learning because you grow old. You grow old because you stop learning.
I am 72 and enthusiastic about how Sandy looks at design. As long as people like him where considered as disturbing, there was just business as usual and no innovation. So fortunately Elon came not from legacy auto! At Hyundai Group fortunately young engineers together with older experts, they did not really like in Europe, got ‚carte blanche, to realize outstanding electric cars with personality too! Fortunately there is change now and keeps personal mobility attractive because there is no alternative besides driving less and save ressources. 😎
Its the 73 year old executives who make us youngsters keep doing things the old way. The way they know
Spot-on man!
Well, some people are not old, they used their time wisely and remember to always challenge the old and improve on it. This man has not turned old, but wise.
Having sponsors where Munro vets the design quality is genius, as it makes the viewer assured of the quality and for me that makes the advertisement much more valuable for the viewer and the sponsor. I usually just skip in-video ads, but in this case I did not and would also take the time to view them in the future for this channel.
Another channel that does (imo) quality in-video ads is Heavy D Sparks. Best part is he does pros and cons not just praise praise praise. Makes the referral more valuable because it tailors who will benefit most from sponsors product (line)
Yep. I can see the conversation now: Advertiser - "Can we sponsor one of your videos with XXX product?" Monroe - "Send a sample that we can destroy, and we'll get back to you..."
Definitely.
I echo this. I was about ready to start my double taps but right when I saw it spread out and disassembled, I went hold on and actually watched it through. I don't want "marketing" advertised to me I want the engineering of it explained to me. After all it is the reason I come to this channel. Not just Tesla stuff, I want to know what engineering is getting accomplished by every manufacturer.
Agreed! I JUST bought a power bank and I found myself googling that anker power station based on Sandy's reccomendation.
One of the best Munro Live video showcasing the competitive advantage Tesla has over Ford, GM, ....in building cars, not just battery technology and EV powertrain but advantage in how to build the whole car. Mind blowing.
ford has a big casting machine too
@@JackMott Now they do. If Musk hadn't pushed the Italian manufacturers of the casting machines to go big nobody would have one.
@@JackMott I did not know that. I know that some of the Chinese automakers are onto it.
Which factory is the Ford one in?
What pressure does it run at?
Which model is it used for?
@@andrewsaint6581
I suspect you'll be waiting some time for the answer to your "Ford casting" question ....
@@richardraymond878 Actually, I'd expect the announcement any day now of the first Tesla Gigacasting machine, designed and manufactured by none other than Tesla, If IDRA had said "no, we can't do that" when asked. But being Elon, if they had any ambition they couldn't say no. Mr. Pushy himself.
I can't even imagine how Sandy feels after years of wanting to make large castings happen in cars and finally seeing it come to fruition. Thank you Munro team for sharing this information with the world!
I wish my dad were still alive to see these videos, he would have enjoyed them very much too. He did some diecasting and machine tool factory stuff back in the day.
Yes. I know some say Sandy is too enthusiastic about Tesla, he's not objective enough, but long-time viewers know it's because Sandy was frustrated for years when working inside Ford and then when consulting with large car OEMs - he knew the right ideas and they were so infrequently implemented. It sure is notable that he's had that 3-piece car casting mockup around for 15 years - recommended to many, and brought to fruition by only one company, one that hadn't seen it.
@@donjones4719 I'm pretty sure they would've seen it. You wouldn't see it everyday and thus you'd probably try to get every experience from things done before.
Especially after simply mentioning it in a video-- and then all the sudden they changed half of their factory around to follow his idea. lol.. Pretty crazy.
I suspect I know approximately 98 percent of what Sandy feels. Satisfied.
@@LegendaryInfortainment
I'd say 90%+ annoyed and disappointed by the opportunity lost by those who saw it.
I love hearing a 73 year old man shouting to the industry to think outside the box, promote change and innovation. Proves yet again that change is a mindset and does not diminish with age but with attitude. Getting younger people to run things does not automatically induce change for the better.
Old man yells at threaded fasteners
@@piyh3962 that got me 😂
LOL. I'm only 62. Seeing the passion Sandg has for his work and his life makes feel young and wanting to keep trrying to push for innovation too.
@@piyh3962
With good reason.
"Getting younger people to run things does not automatically induce change for the better."
It kinda does though, because the majority of older people in the business have developed the wrong attitude.
That's not to say older people cannot indeed have the right attitude, Munro is a living example of that for sure.
It's great to see the improvements and how excited you are about them. That's why it's important to just tell it like it is. If you praise everything, it doesn't push for improvement.
Thanks Chris
Praising everything also destroys credibility. That they hammered the 1st M3 version is why praise for improvements really matters.
@@Mrbfgray But even back then....Munro only hammered the body...not the drivetrain, electronics and battery pack. With the 'superbottle' probably being the 'swept of his feet' moment to fall in love with Tesla's innovative culture.
If I recall correctly, after those things were analysed, a bunch of Munro employees bought a Tesla 😉.
@@kaasman78 Great point. Also he might have criticized most OEMs half as much for excess construction complexity and so on.
Yeah tend to agree , although a massive petrol head myself and love N/A engines electric cars should have come on a lot more . Now there are 2 reasons for this
1 Nicola Tesla was ripped off by JP Morgan and it’s all about greed and money, not passion pride and innovation. So electric cars would have been developed sooner.
2 electric vehicles were around before petrol ones , it was only America that pushed the internal combustion engine to the mainstream as they had an abundance of oil to sell , that’s why the big yank v8s produced pathetic bhp per litre . It didn’t matter how inefficient they were as more oil was sold for fuel . Then ford etc exported the petrol engine car basically tow the world . All about money and greed eventually.
Holy cow… kudos to the Munro team for capturing that intro from Sandy. The passion, enthusiasm and pure excitement to educate came through loud and clear. Can’t fake passion like that and you captured gold right there. This video should be shown at the beginning of every engineering course across the country. Just awesome guys! And Sandy- thank you for trusting your team when they asked to produce this channel. Your content here is having a profound impact on so many… kudos to the #munrofactor !!!!
Agreed!
Yes it was good , but remember that they have been using castings and tig welding
them to tubes in motorcycles for ages . About 10 years ago , Renault bought a injection
moulding machine that could do a complete body for a small car . Long strand glass filled nylon is super strong for use like this .
Cory, you look like you have achieved a lean design yourself.
Cheers to the great video.
I noticed that too!
I would 😁
I was also wondering if i was the only one, well done cory 👏.
I rolled my eyes when the sponsor popped in, and then I came out impressed with how you backed the product. I don't even need one of these and I want it.
Great work explaining castings too. Great job guys.
For all they have given to the community, I welcome every revenue generating opportunity the put in front of us.
Every other TH-camr: “The Ankler battery is amazing! It allows you to charge…”
Monroe: “See, they replaced that part like we told them.”
That’s selling at its best. I don’t need it but I want it. Lol
I almost always enjoy the Munro Live videos but once in while you hit something Sandy has a passionate opinion on and it is 🔥 :) Great job everyone!
In some videos like this he is on fire and he is able to transfer his passions super hard to the viewer
🎓
Just about what i wanted to say. Couldn't have done it that well, though :-)
His passionate "opinion" sounds like marketing brainwash from IDRA to me. And continues with the endorsement of shaving blades or the Anker product here in this video.
For the casting: it is only successful, if other properties are in line with expectations as well: scrap rates of the cast pieces, acceptable quality with regard to blowholes/shrinkholes, low effort in post-treatment after a casting had been cast by the casting machine, handling efforts. It is only revolutionary and innovative, if it matches a number of these criteria, which he did not even mention. And in addition: whether the same casting can be put in Model 3 and Model, which likely isn't the case. So the large castings idea may match with some ways to build cars, but not with all of them, expecially when building many product lines in one factory. A true engineering standpoint would take that into account.
@@koeniglicher see you soon on that model 3 castings doubt ;) 2023.
Mr. Munro has all my respect as a teacher, good engineer(rare in those days) and a dedicated citizen of USA.
This is a good example of disruptive technology and every engineer should watch this video. Total mind blowing! Thank you!
Every CEO should watch this video. Because I can guarantee you that the Chinese car companies are watching and rushing to catch up to Tesla. Lower costs mean you win in the long run and Chinese companies are very good at investing in the long run.
There is nothing disruptive about this lol…. Stop encouraging engineers to make less and less repairable vehicles and devices over and over again! When you go to the most remote places on earth you won’t see a car that was made entirely of single giant parts lol….
@@morrisg every CEO should not watch this tbh!
Disruptive hype.
@@morrisg The next step is to make the entire unibody as a single casting, that way after an accident you can scrap the entire vehicle instead of just half of it.
“I’m not popular.” And that is why we love you Sandy. We need people like you that keep it straight.
Never seen Sandy so triggered!! This is pure passion of love for the work Munro carries out. Keep these videos coming, they're so informative and to the point !!! ♥️
but... what might come..
The more passion, the more marketing and evangelism, and the less engineering. That's why I do not like Sandy's claims too much (with strong opinions on good or bad), but I like the statements from the other team members at Munro way better, which are way more balanced and more profound, than Sandy's are.
You haven't watched him ranting about fasteners then..
we’re all haunted by what we’ll all see by the cybertruck...
Sandy is hitting on all cylinders. Makes me delighted to see that the age of the mind is indeed separate and distinct from the aged skin and gray hair.
He is a brilliant man, full of the sort of career-spanning knowledge that makes all of his observations so cogent and important. Bravo and well done, sir!
I love it when Sandy tells it like it is.
When does he do that
And... quite frankly.
Which is always!
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I dont think he is capable to do otherwise.
I had seen Anker products before and even owned one of their USB wall chargers, but I really didn't have a feel for whether they were worth the significant price premium... Seeing that you tore down their battery pack and still felt comfortable recommending it is a real vote of confidence!
I wish it weighed a lot less than 43 lbs.
Cory and Sandy reunited and it feels so good. Love Sandy's assessment of good design and Herbert Deiss.
The latest casting looks like the Flinstones, simple and clean. No floor. Love it!
Munro Live is going to be great for the future of manufacturing. There's a child or young adult watching this, who will develop a love for engineering and manufacturing, based on your content. We need more people thinking about manufacturing and less about law and finance. Thanks for everything you do.
Awesome video. Sandy was fired up.
Tesla operates how artificial intelligence is supposed to operate. Faster iterations and progress than ever seen before. Constantly evolving.
Nice seeing the last three generations body in white side by side. The changes and improvement are striking.
Morning cup of coffee + Sandy Rant = A most excellent start to my Friday
Can you share the weight of each body in white?
It applies all through the production. Superfast Matt did a nice video on th differences between the original Model S handles, and the later ones. Part of the reason for the changes was early Tesla was not getting much response from the parts suppliers, but now when Tesla calls up, it's "Oh Hi! What can we do for you?" The newer handles are more sophisticated,, but much more reliable, and likely cheaper. Sandy has done lots on the superbottle, and then the Octovalve. It's all through the cars.
@@grahammonk8013 I saw a Jaguar iPace with a stuck out door handle today.
Cory, you truly have a knack for video production. Really has been fun watching you grow this channel. Thanks for your efforts!
Thanks Bill!
Great video and education. Those complain about crack fixing issue have no idea of how stiff the structure is. Every time you remove a join/bolt/weld and integrate two pieces in a continuous form, the stress transfer becomes more streamline and hence yields the structural rigidity. In short, more weld/join/bolt = higher risk of failure
Overstiff parts can mearly transfer the crack to another area.
@@andrewholdaway813 Agree with your point, that's why the engineers borrowed the power of FEA to simulate potential area of suspect for cracking if overstiffing issue exist and avoid it if not needed. Besides, the other factor is with the type of aluminum, which is more ductile than conventional aluminum. It has always been a tricky issue to balance stiffness and ductility for a structural part, not to mention ability to case...
By far the best Anker sponsorship for this product. Really shows how much Anker is confident in their engineering.
Love this coverage and statements made in it. Thanks for brining up the damage to the casting since so many people fail to understand to damage the casting, you will be happy to walk out alive since you have crush cans etc to take most of the inertia.
The financial saving for the Giga castings is crazy, not just in part cost being cheaper but also logistics, chance of failure, quality check, molds for the small parts, workers, fixtures all cost A LOT of money.
I know! I've been having this argument with people for years. If the frame/underbody is bent, even in a traditionally-made car, the insurance is going to write that off as a loss, and send you a check. One of my first cars was a Honda Civic. I got into a accident, which *looked* pretty minor, but I bent in the undercarriage by the front passenger door, and the insurance company wrote me a $12k check. If you're in a bad enough collision to bend the frame, you're getting a new car either way, so the "repair cost" is a moot point; they will never be repaired.
@@AMortalDefiant The only way most people learn about this is from an accident. A wildly destroyed single part e.g. bumper cover is cheap to replace. Two slightly broken parts costs twice as much. A crushed fender is a common unbolt-replace repair. A very slight wrinkle in the C pillar means that something is bent beyond repair.
When an engineer gets passionate, listen. That usually means it's one of those rare things that doesn't really have a technical trade off, and the only thing stopping us is bureaucracy.
Sandy's (well founded) ranting about striving to improve and advance the state-of-the-art reminds me of Steve Jobs saying "If you don't cannibalise your own products, someone else will" in regards to questions about the future of the then cash-cow iPod after the introduction of the iPhone, which nobody at the time thought would take off like it did (Jobs included).
This is exactly why I love this company. The management actually listens. They take their ego out of the situation and simply do what is right to create the best product.
This is so rare.
An open mind is the best option if you're sending humans to Mars.
maybe the best episode so far, was as live as it gets.
respect for the herbert diess shout-out.
one of the few forward-thinking leaders in the otherwise stagnant automotive space
Best line ever "but I'm not popular". Sandy and Cory - everyone loves your frank and unadultered honesty, please keep it coming, everyone is sick of the propaganda and MSM BS. You guys are the best.
It's good to stop saying "MSM" and start saying "corporate media". This shows more precisely rationale behind each news they push.
Hands down your best video! Not because your glowing review of the Model Y castings, but the way you clearly articulate the differences between the 3 and the 2022 Y. You absolutely crushed it!
Stock value - I have a friend who kept away from investing in Tesla while I just kept buying,, especially in the last dip. He did end up investing a few shares, but then sold according to his fancy charts. He just didn't understand how Tesla is different, and this is just the car business section, not to mention solar, software, AI, etc. Thanks Sandy for making this clear and convincing!
if your really want a deep dive in Tesla stock valuation, I suggest you head over and subscribe to Solving the Money Problem Steven Mark Ryan is a bit sarcastic but on the money with his analysis and why Tesla is the ONLY automotive stock to buy (unless you enjoy flushing your money down the toilet)
Tesla isnt diffrent!
So nice to hear Cost of Quality mentioned. Having been in the quality arena for 30 years, no one is so close to quality as Sandy. Also, process improvement is a large part of quality and no one exemplifies that better than Elon Musk and Tesla. Instead of Kaizen or TPS and step improvements, First Principles goes for the breakthrough process and is THE quality improvement methodology of the future. Sandy and Elon say so many quality related ideas such as reduced process steps, reduced parts, no spaghetti diagrams, Poka Yoke or mistake proof process, its just great! And Tesla has no problem with others seeing these videos because Elon has a mission to expand the knowledge, not hold tight to it. Thanks for the great presentation guys.
This was great man. Loved Sandy's contributions especially, had to laugh a few times. Good to show props to Herbert Diess, one of the great!
"I'm not popular" - Sandy Munro. His intellectual honesty is exemplary and that's why we love this guy.
Thanks for the teardown of the Anker battery and $200 off coupon, was looking for good, not cheap, battery pack like that size.
I am very proud and happy to work in this department at the GFBB in Germany after hearing these words and your comments (Special thanks to the great man for this beautiful (explanation
So many good quips in this one. Didn’t realize I subscribed to a comedy show
Thanks for the short history lesson on Tesla's improvement process. It's a great motivation for engineers.
Good video, really liked the support for Herbert Diess at the end. Too many people are tossed aside by corporations and it can be a kick in the gut. It's good to stand up for a good man when he's down.
Wow Cory and team really like how you lined up 3 generations of Telsa next to each other and let Sandy give a master class on car body design evolution. Well done. one of the best videos ever!
Very nice demonstration. Good to see Sandy back in front of the camera. It is things like the giga casting evoltion that 'analysts' miss when they place Tesla in the same category as legacy auto. More Sandy videos please.
As an engineer this video is a breath of fresh air. Love Sandy's attitude and commentary.
Glad to see your company embracing change and growing its awesome to witness
Sandys second tear down of a Tesla convinced me to buy the shares in 2019.
THANK YOU Sandy for changing my life !
This is probably the best ever Monroe and Associates video I have ever seen !!
They are always interesting, but I'm not a qualified engineer (wish I was!) and they are sometimes a bit complicated. But this time with the presentation of the 4 bodyshells and their evolutionary journey in such a short time, I got it, I really properly got it.
Thank you both, Cory and Sandy - what a tag team - for giving me such a lesson that I will never allow myself to forget.
You🥰 are 1 of a kind - love your honesty
Love how you guys showed the drastic improvements they've made in manufacturing over such a short period of time.
Also, the bit about Herbert Diess at the end 🙌
told and explained the way all presentations should go..thank you sandy
5 star presentation on Tesla drive to be perfect, each time, every time. Extremely informative, clear, concise and to the point. JWD!
I love seeing Sandy fired up. His passion is fantastic hard to believe many in the auto industry have the same enthusiasm. Great video.
Wow ! This is a moment in the history of auto manufacturing. Thank you Sandy and Cory & Associates.
Sandy's blown away-ness tells you everything about the state of the auto industry
Everybody wins with Good Design !
I love the Herbert Deiss comment. When I heard of his being pushed out of VW, my immediate reaction was seeing a disaster being implemented by the change. I got the impression VW is skeptical about EV's and they are going to pull a Toyota and bank on regulators to extend the electrification deadlines ad infinitum based upon their true inability to adapt in a more aggressive way. Deiss was holding the feet of the company to the fire on that score and they dumped him. Not good.
VW definitely isn't sceptical about EVs. They are sceptical about their bottom line as every other traditional automaker lol. Their hands are tied though, unlike Tesla's.
I'm skeptical of the change at VW. Herbert Deiss was realistic about the loss of jobs at VW, and the labor union reps on the VW Board really didn't like that. He didn't accumulate enough allies in the company and between that and delays at Cariad, VW's independent software division, holding up R&D of cars in other divisions, sealed his fate.
I agree. Thanks, Sandy, for giving Deiss a plug!!
ev is garbage, just more control for government
water powered and hydrogen powered is the only environmentally friendly engine, been around for decades but all patents denied.
Oliver Blume from Porsche is a EV fan too, but maybe not to the scale the Dr. Diess has
Great good guys thank you and thanks for giving Herbert a shout out!
Well boys...this is the video that puts both of you guys out front as engineers who can discuss realities in design where Mr. Average and Mrs. Average car owners can understand the evolution of vehicles. Buckminster Fuller would be smiling, knowing you are getting there. Well done...keep up the good work!
I feel like we've been waiting for this moment to arrive for more than 3 years and it shows Sandy is quite relieved/redeemed to see Tesla follow through so successfully.
Another great video from Munro! This video should be required viewing for all those involved in vehicle design, manufacture and management!
Hi Sandy, always love your channel with all this innovative info!
Thanks, Bert!
I was proud of American ingenuity throughout this video. You are clearly the advisors a genius chooses to listen to. You share in the Tesla story. You share in the the story of every future auto made from these giga castings. Thank you for your service.
pretty insane that Tesla can make these changes in such a short amount of time on a production vehicle.
One of the reason Tesla will not certify rebuilt old wrecks with particular VINs - the technology (and parts) used to manufacture them is obsolete and not available
Pretty insane that Tesla can make these changes in such a short time on a production vehicle and charge $15K more while reducing its manufacturing cost and time. Pretty insane indeed.
@@vipahman Pretty insane that there was just a global pandemic leading to serious supply chain issues and nobody seems to realize how that directly relates to cost and pricing of EVERYTHING.
@@vipahman It,s great for shareholders
NOT in any way claiming what TESLA is doing is easy, they are really clever AND at the right time AND with the Finances.
BUT
To change a legacy company might be IMPOSSIBLE, there is to much baggage
Probably the ONLY (Best?) way is how I understand Ford is doing it.
Start A NEW subsidiary, build that up while dismantling the old one...
You UNFORTUNATELY have to change a lot of skills, corporate culture and thereby people..
As my thank you to Munro and Associates, I’m not skipping all the advertisements in every reviews they presents because the reviews they’re giving us are not cheap. Munro Associates is tearing down expensive cars that all of us may see first hand from their expertise. I’m learning a lot from them when it comes to car manufacturing and engineering. Let’s help this channel by not skipping the ads. Cheers 🥂
I’ve missed Sandy’s enthusiasm. It’s good to see him in a video again.
It turns out Cory is not just an excellent engineer / consultant BUT can also have fun! Sandy's message, backed up by a quote from Dr. Deming, was perfect. Excellent work!
The progress is a great complement to both Munro and Tesla .
Engineers at legacy auto must watch these and weep, they know what needs to be done but the suits get in the way.
Hey Fred... so true! That's why I have NEVER appointed suits to any job in my company.
It’s the battle between MBAs and Engineers, at Tesla we know who won.
@@brunosmith6925 I personally avoid appointing sweatpants as well. They just sit in a corner all day sulking in their own stench.
@@philipstull7629 MBAs have ruined more companies that they have helped!
@@ganymede3141 In the 33 years since starting my own business, I have also learned to NEVER ask business advice from the following:
1. Accountants
2. Banks and any banking staff
3. Academics (especially ones with "business degrees").
I just love watching Sandy. He is so smart and gets his points across so well.
You guys make engineering interesting to the normies. Thanks
This is one of the Best videos I have seen from Munro Live. Showing the progress of the design and manufacturing evolution of the Model 3 has no better way to see it. THANKs for sharing this!
Tesla continues to raise the bar, push the envelope and disrupt. We will all benefit because of it. Love it. Thanks Sandy
Cory, you are correct. Sandy's most eloquent and passionate video EVER!
These castings make Sandy look like a child who FINALLY got his present that he always wanted haha, delightful sight!
Absolutely love Sandy Munro's take on the giga castings. He is so right and his passionate discussion on the Tesla innovations make me very positive about Tesla/TSLA and its future!
Sandy is doing his best to save the US car industry by being crystal clear about what’s needed! I believe, however, he sees the Chinese automakers as being far ahead and annihilating the US car industry as it is now.
These last two posts by Sandy should change the whole world. If they listen!!
It puts a new spin on a old saying:
Getting better every day.
Getting smarter everyday.
Great Job Munro Team
Spectacular Job Team Tesla
I love these. Could watch all day.
Thanks!
Thank you!
FINALLY, somebody knows and understands what innovation is!
The TESLA way is love at first sight!
Frustrating to see how most companies still work in 2020. Especially when you have to work for a Takumi engineer wanna-be!
Sandy, I guess we speak Swahili for them :-)
Excellent review on [Castings] & a mention on [Lfp Batteries]!
Fantastic video, great to see Sandy so passionate and almost in awe at the pace and increase of innovation at Tesla, thanks to both of you, and the rest of Lean Design, for all you do and sharing it with us here :)
So good, just love how this blitz-evolution in vehicle architecture was spurred by Team Munro. More please!!! Thank you brilliant folks for contributing so much to promoting new Engineering Principles in Manufacturing in the USA & around the world.
Love a good Sandy rant!
Thank you Team Munro😎
Wow Sandy. You are a serious businessman with a great handle on your purpose. Every manufacturer should be asking you to review their assembly’s and implement your ideas, but you words for Mr Deitz showed your kindness and I agree with you. He knows his business.
Incredible work on part of tesla and idra. Revolutionary.
I’m new to the EV world but so glad to have found this channel! I have a model 3 on order and I’m so excited for it. Sandy is such a great man! Thank you!
More change by Tesla in 5 years than the legacy auto companies have in the last 50
Because Tesla is run by engineers and not bean counters. To drive that point home, Elon fired 10% of the non factory floor admin employees (about 3% work force)
it's not like this concept was invented by Tesla... Audi did this so called Audi Space Frame Concept in the early 90's and some of this is still state of the art. It's a great concept, no question about it. But obvs. a much better marketing strategy.
When Sandy is excited, I get exited. Great presentation. Herbert Diess just got a reference that can't be topped!
One of your best yet 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks, John!
Cracking video guys and not often I rewind an advert! Totally sold out in UK!
"It takes several years to move a design for a car into production." ALL I.C.E. car makers
"As quick as our suppliers can deliver, we can change a car's production design - accomplished in MONTHS." Tesla
"Production improvements CAN be made at the speed of thought." Sandy Munro
Sandy was on fire in this one.
Gotta say, I loved the breakdown and endorsement of the Anker system. Before I buy something I always look at product reviews, but where can you get a product review with a full teardown and engineering examination? Munro Live! 🍻
There are other very good brands available
Love your excitement. THE SPEED OF MUSK. This is historic. I own a model Y, X, and 3. Best vehicles in the world. Plus fill
Up at home with my solar panels. I have owned many exotic cars and previous gear head. Not any more
Anker giving Sandy a product to rip apart is the most Op marketing move I've seen in a couple of years.
Agreed, good move by Anker indeed. I've move them up in my brand ranking regard based on this review. I've read good reviews about Anker for a few years, but a Munro kudo really moves the needle to the high side of regard for me.
You guys are amazing, most people would think this subject would be mega boring but it's anything but. It's actually fuel for our minds.
I know nothing about cars or metallurgy but I feel like "Peter Venkman" right now. It makes me smile to see the evolution of a car company, like Tesla, doing so much to make the world a safer place.
Just don't get slimed by listening to legacy OEMs talk about their automation investments.
@@spacegamer85 Unless we get a sample to examine.
Thanks Sandy & Co., this is the best information I've enjoyed today. I think a useful abbreviation for around the 13 minute mark, is that good enough has fairly well known costs and little deviation, whereas perfection can and will support infinite costs, forever. Or something like. Looking forward to more. Motorcycle industry was doing the same dreck 40 years back, when I bent formula and fuel MC frames.
Great information. I enjoy these videos.