I am 72 and enthusiastic about how Sandy looks at design. As long as people like him where considered as disturbing, there was just business as usual and no innovation. So fortunately Elon came not from legacy auto! At Hyundai Group fortunately young engineers together with older experts, they did not really like in Europe, got ‚carte blanche, to realize outstanding electric cars with personality too! Fortunately there is change now and keeps personal mobility attractive because there is no alternative besides driving less and save ressources. 😎
Well, some people are not old, they used their time wisely and remember to always challenge the old and improve on it. This man has not turned old, but wise.
I love hearing a 73 year old man shouting to the industry to think outside the box, promote change and innovation. Proves yet again that change is a mindset and does not diminish with age but with attitude. Getting younger people to run things does not automatically induce change for the better.
"Getting younger people to run things does not automatically induce change for the better." It kinda does though, because the majority of older people in the business have developed the wrong attitude. That's not to say older people cannot indeed have the right attitude, Munro is a living example of that for sure.
I rolled my eyes when the sponsor popped in, and then I came out impressed with how you backed the product. I don't even need one of these and I want it. Great work explaining castings too. Great job guys.
Having sponsors where Munro vets the design quality is genius, as it makes the viewer assured of the quality and for me that makes the advertisement much more valuable for the viewer and the sponsor. I usually just skip in-video ads, but in this case I did not and would also take the time to view them in the future for this channel.
Another channel that does (imo) quality in-video ads is Heavy D Sparks. Best part is he does pros and cons not just praise praise praise. Makes the referral more valuable because it tailors who will benefit most from sponsors product (line)
Yep. I can see the conversation now: Advertiser - "Can we sponsor one of your videos with XXX product?" Monroe - "Send a sample that we can destroy, and we'll get back to you..."
I echo this. I was about ready to start my double taps but right when I saw it spread out and disassembled, I went hold on and actually watched it through. I don't want "marketing" advertised to me I want the engineering of it explained to me. After all it is the reason I come to this channel. Not just Tesla stuff, I want to know what engineering is getting accomplished by every manufacturer.
One of the best Munro Live video showcasing the competitive advantage Tesla has over Ford, GM, ....in building cars, not just battery technology and EV powertrain but advantage in how to build the whole car. Mind blowing.
@@JackMott I did not know that. I know that some of the Chinese automakers are onto it. Which factory is the Ford one in? What pressure does it run at? Which model is it used for?
@@richardraymond878 Actually, I'd expect the announcement any day now of the first Tesla Gigacasting machine, designed and manufactured by none other than Tesla, If IDRA had said "no, we can't do that" when asked. But being Elon, if they had any ambition they couldn't say no. Mr. Pushy himself.
It's great to see the improvements and how excited you are about them. That's why it's important to just tell it like it is. If you praise everything, it doesn't push for improvement.
@@Mrbfgray But even back then....Munro only hammered the body...not the drivetrain, electronics and battery pack. With the 'superbottle' probably being the 'swept of his feet' moment to fall in love with Tesla's innovative culture. If I recall correctly, after those things were analysed, a bunch of Munro employees bought a Tesla 😉.
Yeah tend to agree , although a massive petrol head myself and love N/A engines electric cars should have come on a lot more . Now there are 2 reasons for this 1 Nicola Tesla was ripped off by JP Morgan and it’s all about greed and money, not passion pride and innovation. So electric cars would have been developed sooner. 2 electric vehicles were around before petrol ones , it was only America that pushed the internal combustion engine to the mainstream as they had an abundance of oil to sell , that’s why the big yank v8s produced pathetic bhp per litre . It didn’t matter how inefficient they were as more oil was sold for fuel . Then ford etc exported the petrol engine car basically tow the world . All about money and greed eventually.
Holy cow… kudos to the Munro team for capturing that intro from Sandy. The passion, enthusiasm and pure excitement to educate came through loud and clear. Can’t fake passion like that and you captured gold right there. This video should be shown at the beginning of every engineering course across the country. Just awesome guys! And Sandy- thank you for trusting your team when they asked to produce this channel. Your content here is having a profound impact on so many… kudos to the #munrofactor !!!!
Yes it was good , but remember that they have been using castings and tig welding them to tubes in motorcycles for ages . About 10 years ago , Renault bought a injection moulding machine that could do a complete body for a small car . Long strand glass filled nylon is super strong for use like this .
I can't even imagine how Sandy feels after years of wanting to make large castings happen in cars and finally seeing it come to fruition. Thank you Munro team for sharing this information with the world! I wish my dad were still alive to see these videos, he would have enjoyed them very much too. He did some diecasting and machine tool factory stuff back in the day.
Yes. I know some say Sandy is too enthusiastic about Tesla, he's not objective enough, but long-time viewers know it's because Sandy was frustrated for years when working inside Ford and then when consulting with large car OEMs - he knew the right ideas and they were so infrequently implemented. It sure is notable that he's had that 3-piece car casting mockup around for 15 years - recommended to many, and brought to fruition by only one company, one that hadn't seen it.
@@donjones4719 I'm pretty sure they would've seen it. You wouldn't see it everyday and thus you'd probably try to get every experience from things done before.
Especially after simply mentioning it in a video-- and then all the sudden they changed half of their factory around to follow his idea. lol.. Pretty crazy.
I love the Herbert Deiss comment. When I heard of his being pushed out of VW, my immediate reaction was seeing a disaster being implemented by the change. I got the impression VW is skeptical about EV's and they are going to pull a Toyota and bank on regulators to extend the electrification deadlines ad infinitum based upon their true inability to adapt in a more aggressive way. Deiss was holding the feet of the company to the fire on that score and they dumped him. Not good.
VW definitely isn't sceptical about EVs. They are sceptical about their bottom line as every other traditional automaker lol. Their hands are tied though, unlike Tesla's.
I'm skeptical of the change at VW. Herbert Deiss was realistic about the loss of jobs at VW, and the labor union reps on the VW Board really didn't like that. He didn't accumulate enough allies in the company and between that and delays at Cariad, VW's independent software division, holding up R&D of cars in other divisions, sealed his fate.
ev is garbage, just more control for government water powered and hydrogen powered is the only environmentally friendly engine, been around for decades but all patents denied.
I had seen Anker products before and even owned one of their USB wall chargers, but I really didn't have a feel for whether they were worth the significant price premium... Seeing that you tore down their battery pack and still felt comfortable recommending it is a real vote of confidence!
Munro Live is going to be great for the future of manufacturing. There's a child or young adult watching this, who will develop a love for engineering and manufacturing, based on your content. We need more people thinking about manufacturing and less about law and finance. Thanks for everything you do.
When an engineer gets passionate, listen. That usually means it's one of those rare things that doesn't really have a technical trade off, and the only thing stopping us is bureaucracy.
Never seen Sandy so triggered!! This is pure passion of love for the work Munro carries out. Keep these videos coming, they're so informative and to the point !!! ♥️
The more passion, the more marketing and evangelism, and the less engineering. That's why I do not like Sandy's claims too much (with strong opinions on good or bad), but I like the statements from the other team members at Munro way better, which are way more balanced and more profound, than Sandy's are.
His passionate "opinion" sounds like marketing brainwash from IDRA to me. And continues with the endorsement of shaving blades or the Anker product here in this video. For the casting: it is only successful, if other properties are in line with expectations as well: scrap rates of the cast pieces, acceptable quality with regard to blowholes/shrinkholes, low effort in post-treatment after a casting had been cast by the casting machine, handling efforts. It is only revolutionary and innovative, if it matches a number of these criteria, which he did not even mention. And in addition: whether the same casting can be put in Model 3 and Model, which likely isn't the case. So the large castings idea may match with some ways to build cars, but not with all of them, expecially when building many product lines in one factory. A true engineering standpoint would take that into account.
Great video and education. Those complain about crack fixing issue have no idea of how stiff the structure is. Every time you remove a join/bolt/weld and integrate two pieces in a continuous form, the stress transfer becomes more streamline and hence yields the structural rigidity. In short, more weld/join/bolt = higher risk of failure
@@andrewholdaway813 Agree with your point, that's why the engineers borrowed the power of FEA to simulate potential area of suspect for cracking if overstiffing issue exist and avoid it if not needed. Besides, the other factor is with the type of aluminum, which is more ductile than conventional aluminum. It has always been a tricky issue to balance stiffness and ductility for a structural part, not to mention ability to case...
"It takes several years to move a design for a car into production." ALL I.C.E. car makers "As quick as our suppliers can deliver, we can change a car's production design - accomplished in MONTHS." Tesla "Production improvements CAN be made at the speed of thought." Sandy Munro
Nice seeing the last three generations body in white side by side. The changes and improvement are striking. Morning cup of coffee + Sandy Rant = A most excellent start to my Friday Can you share the weight of each body in white?
It applies all through the production. Superfast Matt did a nice video on th differences between the original Model S handles, and the later ones. Part of the reason for the changes was early Tesla was not getting much response from the parts suppliers, but now when Tesla calls up, it's "Oh Hi! What can we do for you?" The newer handles are more sophisticated,, but much more reliable, and likely cheaper. Sandy has done lots on the superbottle, and then the Octovalve. It's all through the cars.
Every CEO should watch this video. Because I can guarantee you that the Chinese car companies are watching and rushing to catch up to Tesla. Lower costs mean you win in the long run and Chinese companies are very good at investing in the long run.
There is nothing disruptive about this lol…. Stop encouraging engineers to make less and less repairable vehicles and devices over and over again! When you go to the most remote places on earth you won’t see a car that was made entirely of single giant parts lol….
@@morrisg The next step is to make the entire unibody as a single casting, that way after an accident you can scrap the entire vehicle instead of just half of it.
Awesome video. Sandy was fired up. Tesla operates how artificial intelligence is supposed to operate. Faster iterations and progress than ever seen before. Constantly evolving.
Love this coverage and statements made in it. Thanks for brining up the damage to the casting since so many people fail to understand to damage the casting, you will be happy to walk out alive since you have crush cans etc to take most of the inertia. The financial saving for the Giga castings is crazy, not just in part cost being cheaper but also logistics, chance of failure, quality check, molds for the small parts, workers, fixtures all cost A LOT of money.
I know! I've been having this argument with people for years. If the frame/underbody is bent, even in a traditionally-made car, the insurance is going to write that off as a loss, and send you a check. One of my first cars was a Honda Civic. I got into a accident, which *looked* pretty minor, but I bent in the undercarriage by the front passenger door, and the insurance company wrote me a $12k check. If you're in a bad enough collision to bend the frame, you're getting a new car either way, so the "repair cost" is a moot point; they will never be repaired.
@@AMortalDefiant The only way most people learn about this is from an accident. A wildly destroyed single part e.g. bumper cover is cheap to replace. Two slightly broken parts costs twice as much. A crushed fender is a common unbolt-replace repair. A very slight wrinkle in the C pillar means that something is bent beyond repair.
This is exactly why I love this company. The management actually listens. They take their ego out of the situation and simply do what is right to create the best product. This is so rare.
Sandy's (well founded) ranting about striving to improve and advance the state-of-the-art reminds me of Steve Jobs saying "If you don't cannibalise your own products, someone else will" in regards to questions about the future of the then cash-cow iPod after the introduction of the iPhone, which nobody at the time thought would take off like it did (Jobs included).
Best line ever "but I'm not popular". Sandy and Cory - everyone loves your frank and unadultered honesty, please keep it coming, everyone is sick of the propaganda and MSM BS. You guys are the best.
Because Tesla is run by engineers and not bean counters. To drive that point home, Elon fired 10% of the non factory floor admin employees (about 3% work force)
it's not like this concept was invented by Tesla... Audi did this so called Audi Space Frame Concept in the early 90's and some of this is still state of the art. It's a great concept, no question about it. But obvs. a much better marketing strategy.
Hands down your best video! Not because your glowing review of the Model Y castings, but the way you clearly articulate the differences between the 3 and the 2022 Y. You absolutely crushed it!
This is probably the best ever Monroe and Associates video I have ever seen !! They are always interesting, but I'm not a qualified engineer (wish I was!) and they are sometimes a bit complicated. But this time with the presentation of the 4 bodyshells and their evolutionary journey in such a short time, I got it, I really properly got it. Thank you both, Cory and Sandy - what a tag team - for giving me such a lesson that I will never allow myself to forget.
Sandy is hitting on all cylinders. Makes me delighted to see that the age of the mind is indeed separate and distinct from the aged skin and gray hair. He is a brilliant man, full of the sort of career-spanning knowledge that makes all of his observations so cogent and important. Bravo and well done, sir!
Stock value - I have a friend who kept away from investing in Tesla while I just kept buying,, especially in the last dip. He did end up investing a few shares, but then sold according to his fancy charts. He just didn't understand how Tesla is different, and this is just the car business section, not to mention solar, software, AI, etc. Thanks Sandy for making this clear and convincing!
if your really want a deep dive in Tesla stock valuation, I suggest you head over and subscribe to Solving the Money Problem Steven Mark Ryan is a bit sarcastic but on the money with his analysis and why Tesla is the ONLY automotive stock to buy (unless you enjoy flushing your money down the toilet)
Thanks Sandy. I would short that Casting-fixing-thing to 1 point: If you have an accident and the casting is cracked and you get out of the car nearly uninjured, than be happy you are still alive and buy the next Tesla. The force needed to crack the casting in case of an accident normally kills ppl. Live saving is more worth than a giant piece of aluminium.
Absolutely. Safety and performance should be way ahead in consideration over repair-ability for that small percentage chance of having an accident where it's worse than a fender bender, but not having the car totaled. This is a feature that is a no brainier for any engineers.
Just like we've seen in electronics over the last several decades, integration brings about increased quality and lower prices with the trade-off being repairability - it's now almost always cheaper to buy a replacement device than the cost of labour to troubleshoot and repair it.
@@carsonj1 "The cars are still designed to be safe, they still have to pass the same standards and crash tests." It's a different between passing a test and exceeding the requirements of the test.
One of the reason Tesla will not certify rebuilt old wrecks with particular VINs - the technology (and parts) used to manufacture them is obsolete and not available
Pretty insane that Tesla can make these changes in such a short time on a production vehicle and charge $15K more while reducing its manufacturing cost and time. Pretty insane indeed.
@@vipahman Pretty insane that there was just a global pandemic leading to serious supply chain issues and nobody seems to realize how that directly relates to cost and pricing of EVERYTHING.
NOT in any way claiming what TESLA is doing is easy, they are really clever AND at the right time AND with the Finances. BUT To change a legacy company might be IMPOSSIBLE, there is to much baggage Probably the ONLY (Best?) way is how I understand Ford is doing it. Start A NEW subsidiary, build that up while dismantling the old one... You UNFORTUNATELY have to change a lot of skills, corporate culture and thereby people..
So nice to hear Cost of Quality mentioned. Having been in the quality arena for 30 years, no one is so close to quality as Sandy. Also, process improvement is a large part of quality and no one exemplifies that better than Elon Musk and Tesla. Instead of Kaizen or TPS and step improvements, First Principles goes for the breakthrough process and is THE quality improvement methodology of the future. Sandy and Elon say so many quality related ideas such as reduced process steps, reduced parts, no spaghetti diagrams, Poka Yoke or mistake proof process, its just great! And Tesla has no problem with others seeing these videos because Elon has a mission to expand the knowledge, not hold tight to it. Thanks for the great presentation guys.
I know nothing about cars or metallurgy but I feel like "Peter Venkman" right now. It makes me smile to see the evolution of a car company, like Tesla, doing so much to make the world a safer place.
I am very proud and happy to work in this department at the GFBB in Germany after hearing these words and your comments (Special thanks to the great man for this beautiful (explanation
Good video, really liked the support for Herbert Diess at the end. Too many people are tossed aside by corporations and it can be a kick in the gut. It's good to stand up for a good man when he's down.
Very nice demonstration. Good to see Sandy back in front of the camera. It is things like the giga casting evoltion that 'analysts' miss when they place Tesla in the same category as legacy auto. More Sandy videos please.
I feel like we've been waiting for this moment to arrive for more than 3 years and it shows Sandy is quite relieved/redeemed to see Tesla follow through so successfully.
I am an ex casting engineer at a Japanese car company. At my place, casting parts are mostly used in car engines and are under the responsibility of the engine group. Meanwhile, the body group is responsible for the inside of the car body. With Tesla's courage and great success in redesigning the car body, there is no doubt that all car manufacturers will follow suit in the next few years. This could provide benefits to casting engineers wherever they are, as their needs will double or triple in the automotive industry.
Wow Cory and team really like how you lined up 3 generations of Telsa next to each other and let Sandy give a master class on car body design evolution. Well done. one of the best videos ever!
The progress is a great complement to both Munro and Tesla . Engineers at legacy auto must watch these and weep, they know what needs to be done but the suits get in the way.
@@ganymede3141 In the 33 years since starting my own business, I have also learned to NEVER ask business advice from the following: 1. Accountants 2. Banks and any banking staff 3. Academics (especially ones with "business degrees").
These last two posts by Sandy should change the whole world. If they listen!! It puts a new spin on a old saying: Getting better every day. Getting smarter everyday. Great Job Munro Team Spectacular Job Team Tesla
Agreed, good move by Anker indeed. I've move them up in my brand ranking regard based on this review. I've read good reviews about Anker for a few years, but a Munro kudo really moves the needle to the high side of regard for me.
FINALLY, somebody knows and understands what innovation is! The TESLA way is love at first sight! Frustrating to see how most companies still work in 2020. Especially when you have to work for a Takumi engineer wanna-be! Sandy, I guess we speak Swahili for them :-)
Love how you guys showed the drastic improvements they've made in manufacturing over such a short period of time. Also, the bit about Herbert Diess at the end 🙌
Enjoyed that, thanks. My grandfather worked as a brass moulder and my dad as a pattern maker in 100 ton cast iron butterfly water valves. What's going on here is different to what they taught me only the materials and tools have changed. It's fantastic to see this progress.
Well boys...this is the video that puts both of you guys out front as engineers who can discuss realities in design where Mr. Average and Mrs. Average car owners can understand the evolution of vehicles. Buckminster Fuller would be smiling, knowing you are getting there. Well done...keep up the good work!
Love your excitement. THE SPEED OF MUSK. This is historic. I own a model Y, X, and 3. Best vehicles in the world. Plus fill Up at home with my solar panels. I have owned many exotic cars and previous gear head. Not any more
OK - I am a retired GE Mechanical Engineer. I grew up in a garage/dealership. I am a “gear head”, just like you guys. I have been a student of Tesla. Here are some points to consider: 1) In 2012 there was a TH-cam video of a Model S showing a box (like a thick Domino’s pizza box), on the roof. In 2014, there was another video showing early FSD, and the two guys were driving on a small CA back road. They said oh look, there is a Nikola Tesla tower out in the middle of that field. The tower had an elongated base like the Statue of Liberty, and a slender stainless cone with a sphere on top. I guessed that the tower was 60-75 ft tall and the top ball was maybe 16-20 ft in diameter. My “gut” says that they were testing Nikola Tesla powering of the electric car!!! To me, the current EVs are just a stop gap, with their large batteries. If you have a constant flow of electricity coming into an electric car (EC), you will only need a small battery for dynamic braking/acceleration(like a hybrid battery). There has also been some conspiracy information saying that the power distribution will be performed by the Starlink Satellites. Internet will be a sub frequency of the Quantum Resonance. The ECs will be vastly simplistic. 2) In ~2019, Elon made a number of diecast kids Model 3 cars. Why did he do this??? I think, he wanted to see what painted/wrapped surfaces looked like for future ECs. Last year, he took bails of recycled aluminum cans, smelted them and added in his alloys, AND produced billets for the Giga Presses. So I see a small car (Model 2) that has 4 main castings(skateboard/left side//right side/roof with roll bars) and numerous small castings, that make the entire body. What if there are NO stamped metal parts?? Body cost would be about 10-15% of current cost!!! Mostly robotic assembly, maybe NO welding. His Model 3 dreams just might be realized!!! 3) One of the first jobs that his new robots will tackle are installing wiring harnesses. Expect roof harnesses to be installed prior to the body being assembled, along with the entire dash, plus fire walls. The skateboard will have wiring harness, seats and console, just like the current battery pack. What if the body castings are painted/wrapped, cast doors are hung(with panel inserts) to the left and right sides, the hood and trunk/hatch are hung to the roof casting; and the entire car is assembled by bolting these major castings together. Then plastic panels are snapped in place covering the bolts. Four major casting assemblies form 98% of the finished car, except for plugging together wiring harnesses. Just a thought...
If Sandy is a fan of large structural automotive castings, he would absolutely love what I’ve come up with. I can do a nearly complete body in white with 3 gigacastings, 4 extrusions, and 2 floor stampings. The doors and lift gate structures would also be gigacast with injection molded plastic skins inside and out. Assembly would be very simple with thermal slip fit techniques along with snap fit panels and a handful of interior fasteners to prevent attempted disassembly from outside the vehicle.
That horse analogy was... umm.. Try to avoid analogies all together, especially when you have such a great prop in front of you. Love you guys. Sandy is great. Corey is awesome.
Well yeah i kinda understand him what he tried to say. Its evolutionary design. :D Crocodile design works as it is and is nothing wrong with that. Same for car wipers. Its design dint really change for 80 yrs really. Because it works. SO yeah he fumbled explanation.
Yup. As someone who's deeply studied evolution by natural selection and Charles Darwin's works, I can only say - avert your eyes folks, move it along, nothing to see here. It would take a page and a half to work thru the kinks in Sandy's analogies.
@@alesksander On a tangential/pedantic point, Google suggests windscreen wipers were invented in 1902, so it was only 62 years before the invention of the intermittent wipers by Robert Kearns in 1964. The Wikipedia entry for him is an interesting read. Unfortunately the "Flash of Genius" movie about his invention and the subsequent lawsuits is somewhat tedious and boring.
Absolutely love Sandy Munro's take on the giga castings. He is so right and his passionate discussion on the Tesla innovations make me very positive about Tesla/TSLA and its future!
Sandy is doing his best to save the US car industry by being crystal clear about what’s needed! I believe, however, he sees the Chinese automakers as being far ahead and annihilating the US car industry as it is now.
Fantastic video, great to see Sandy so passionate and almost in awe at the pace and increase of innovation at Tesla, thanks to both of you, and the rest of Lean Design, for all you do and sharing it with us here :)
It turns out Cory is not just an excellent engineer / consultant BUT can also have fun! Sandy's message, backed up by a quote from Dr. Deming, was perfect. Excellent work!
Love having guys like sandy around love the work man .. elon single handedly changed the industry ..im sure everyone who adopts this will save in the long run while increasing the build quality of the their cars ...
I still think the cross-car beam of the battery, on which the seats sit, should be part of the body structure, and the battery inverter should be under the hood. The battery would still form the floor and the cross-car beam will give it more attachment points. These changes simplify the rear casting a little, and the assembly line workers can stand either side of the cross-car beam to do installations. The front and rear seats, the console, wiring harnesses and carpet can be installed before the battery is installed. Honda has a fold up rear seat in some of its vehicles. The space under the rear seat can be storage for driver/passengers.
🤗THANKS SANDY,CORY,ERIC FOR A MIND-BLOWING EPISODE 🤯🤯👍 And ALL YOUR STAFF doing all the behind the scenes work 😅 and the patrons for supporting you 😍😍😍
Yes, but he does not follow popular culture. I have a saying "popular does not equal relevant", often it is quite the contrary. Popular means that people don't think: They do something (lemming style) because a lot of other people are doing, the more people, the more they want to do it. Most of these people don't think, the popularity alone is the only recommendation needed. Critical smart thinkers question things and have opinions and conclusions that don't agree with the popular opinion. I don't care how many people agree with me, because my logic and deductive reasoning does not need a majority vote to make sense and be relevant and compelling.
I was proud of American ingenuity throughout this video. You are clearly the advisors a genius chooses to listen to. You share in the Tesla story. You share in the the story of every future auto made from these giga castings. Thank you for your service.
That was inspiring. Sandy was clearly excited to show Tesla's engineering advances, but at the same time he's trying to tell legacy auto that the time is now to implement change. I hope they listen.
Yeah make only two car models and improve them and call it inspiring!? Wtf!!!!! Call me tesla can make everything from double decker bus to commercial vehicles! Vans, trucks, armoured vehicles…….
I’m new to the EV world but so glad to have found this channel! I have a model 3 on order and I’m so excited for it. Sandy is such a great man! Thank you!
The advantage of having one well designed part instead of many smaller is clear. However that is a great challange for foundries to achive homogeneous quality in such a big casting (means not to loose the money due to high level of scrap). HPDC is really complex process. Trust me, I'm an engineer 😉😁
Any other car companies would take a decade to get this much changes to happen, maybe more. Even if the culture is there (which there isn't), there are just too many factories building cars the old way.
Getting parts from a catalogue and combined them, is not building. Teslas approach to build the process of the machine that makes the machine is the right one if you talk about a true fabrication process developer. Remember, the car is not the product, the manufacturing process is the product. The other car companies are just lego players.
@@richardraymond878 Actually, Tesla is reinventing the manufacturing process. That is their real competitive advantage. Part of that is a manufacturing process that allows for production changes in parallel. They can implement more design or production changes in a week than other car makers can do in a year. And that is just one example. Car makers assume the product is the car. They just buy parts and robots off the shelf. Tesla realized the product is the manufacturing process. They build the machine that makes the machine. They will apply that product to all kinds of things. Robots, HVAC, and countless other things we buy. Tesla has changed manufacturing in a way we can only begin to understand. This is much bigger than what Henry Ford did with the assemble line.
@@donm2255 Not entirely true. VW and Toyota build far more cars per year than Tesla and both those companies treat their platforms and manufacturing processes as products. Mitsubishi, Fiat and VW will even sell you an entire auto factory and help train people on how to run it. Both Toyota's TNGA platform and VW's family of "modular matrix" platforms allow them to build many variants of many cars, at different price points with minimum R&D overhead and time-to-market, using everything they have already. Tesla is doing something new because they have the luxury of doing so, but they aren't going to be the only company using gigacasting. Both Polestar and VW's new BEV factories will both employ the use of giant castings as well
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Insanity of the video is that a 73 year old is telling the youngsters to embrace innovation/change. Truly amazing attitude from Sandy!
You dont stop learning because you grow old. You grow old because you stop learning.
I am 72 and enthusiastic about how Sandy looks at design. As long as people like him where considered as disturbing, there was just business as usual and no innovation. So fortunately Elon came not from legacy auto! At Hyundai Group fortunately young engineers together with older experts, they did not really like in Europe, got ‚carte blanche, to realize outstanding electric cars with personality too! Fortunately there is change now and keeps personal mobility attractive because there is no alternative besides driving less and save ressources. 😎
Its the 73 year old executives who make us youngsters keep doing things the old way. The way they know
Spot-on man!
Well, some people are not old, they used their time wisely and remember to always challenge the old and improve on it. This man has not turned old, but wise.
I love hearing a 73 year old man shouting to the industry to think outside the box, promote change and innovation. Proves yet again that change is a mindset and does not diminish with age but with attitude. Getting younger people to run things does not automatically induce change for the better.
Old man yells at threaded fasteners
@@piyh3962 that got me 😂
LOL. I'm only 62. Seeing the passion Sandg has for his work and his life makes feel young and wanting to keep trrying to push for innovation too.
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With good reason.
"Getting younger people to run things does not automatically induce change for the better."
It kinda does though, because the majority of older people in the business have developed the wrong attitude.
That's not to say older people cannot indeed have the right attitude, Munro is a living example of that for sure.
Sandy’s swag meter is at 9000 in this video, and I love to see it.
" his Reading is .....over 9000 " - FREEZA.
Casually tells Elon to hire Diess
That's why I'm here
Bruh, this will become classroom material. Holy smokes, what a legend.
Max level engineer. 9999/9999
I rolled my eyes when the sponsor popped in, and then I came out impressed with how you backed the product. I don't even need one of these and I want it.
Great work explaining castings too. Great job guys.
For all they have given to the community, I welcome every revenue generating opportunity the put in front of us.
Every other TH-camr: “The Ankler battery is amazing! It allows you to charge…”
Monroe: “See, they replaced that part like we told them.”
That’s selling at its best. I don’t need it but I want it. Lol
Having sponsors where Munro vets the design quality is genius, as it makes the viewer assured of the quality and for me that makes the advertisement much more valuable for the viewer and the sponsor. I usually just skip in-video ads, but in this case I did not and would also take the time to view them in the future for this channel.
Another channel that does (imo) quality in-video ads is Heavy D Sparks. Best part is he does pros and cons not just praise praise praise. Makes the referral more valuable because it tailors who will benefit most from sponsors product (line)
Yep. I can see the conversation now: Advertiser - "Can we sponsor one of your videos with XXX product?" Monroe - "Send a sample that we can destroy, and we'll get back to you..."
Definitely.
I echo this. I was about ready to start my double taps but right when I saw it spread out and disassembled, I went hold on and actually watched it through. I don't want "marketing" advertised to me I want the engineering of it explained to me. After all it is the reason I come to this channel. Not just Tesla stuff, I want to know what engineering is getting accomplished by every manufacturer.
Agreed! I JUST bought a power bank and I found myself googling that anker power station based on Sandy's reccomendation.
One of the best Munro Live video showcasing the competitive advantage Tesla has over Ford, GM, ....in building cars, not just battery technology and EV powertrain but advantage in how to build the whole car. Mind blowing.
ford has a big casting machine too
@@JackMott Now they do. If Musk hadn't pushed the Italian manufacturers of the casting machines to go big nobody would have one.
@@JackMott I did not know that. I know that some of the Chinese automakers are onto it.
Which factory is the Ford one in?
What pressure does it run at?
Which model is it used for?
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I suspect you'll be waiting some time for the answer to your "Ford casting" question ....
@@richardraymond878 Actually, I'd expect the announcement any day now of the first Tesla Gigacasting machine, designed and manufactured by none other than Tesla, If IDRA had said "no, we can't do that" when asked. But being Elon, if they had any ambition they couldn't say no. Mr. Pushy himself.
It's great to see the improvements and how excited you are about them. That's why it's important to just tell it like it is. If you praise everything, it doesn't push for improvement.
Thanks Chris
Praising everything also destroys credibility. That they hammered the 1st M3 version is why praise for improvements really matters.
@@Mrbfgray But even back then....Munro only hammered the body...not the drivetrain, electronics and battery pack. With the 'superbottle' probably being the 'swept of his feet' moment to fall in love with Tesla's innovative culture.
If I recall correctly, after those things were analysed, a bunch of Munro employees bought a Tesla 😉.
@@kaasman78 Great point. Also he might have criticized most OEMs half as much for excess construction complexity and so on.
Yeah tend to agree , although a massive petrol head myself and love N/A engines electric cars should have come on a lot more . Now there are 2 reasons for this
1 Nicola Tesla was ripped off by JP Morgan and it’s all about greed and money, not passion pride and innovation. So electric cars would have been developed sooner.
2 electric vehicles were around before petrol ones , it was only America that pushed the internal combustion engine to the mainstream as they had an abundance of oil to sell , that’s why the big yank v8s produced pathetic bhp per litre . It didn’t matter how inefficient they were as more oil was sold for fuel . Then ford etc exported the petrol engine car basically tow the world . All about money and greed eventually.
Holy cow… kudos to the Munro team for capturing that intro from Sandy. The passion, enthusiasm and pure excitement to educate came through loud and clear. Can’t fake passion like that and you captured gold right there. This video should be shown at the beginning of every engineering course across the country. Just awesome guys! And Sandy- thank you for trusting your team when they asked to produce this channel. Your content here is having a profound impact on so many… kudos to the #munrofactor !!!!
Agreed!
Yes it was good , but remember that they have been using castings and tig welding
them to tubes in motorcycles for ages . About 10 years ago , Renault bought a injection
moulding machine that could do a complete body for a small car . Long strand glass filled nylon is super strong for use like this .
I can't even imagine how Sandy feels after years of wanting to make large castings happen in cars and finally seeing it come to fruition. Thank you Munro team for sharing this information with the world!
I wish my dad were still alive to see these videos, he would have enjoyed them very much too. He did some diecasting and machine tool factory stuff back in the day.
Yes. I know some say Sandy is too enthusiastic about Tesla, he's not objective enough, but long-time viewers know it's because Sandy was frustrated for years when working inside Ford and then when consulting with large car OEMs - he knew the right ideas and they were so infrequently implemented. It sure is notable that he's had that 3-piece car casting mockup around for 15 years - recommended to many, and brought to fruition by only one company, one that hadn't seen it.
@@donjones4719 I'm pretty sure they would've seen it. You wouldn't see it everyday and thus you'd probably try to get every experience from things done before.
Especially after simply mentioning it in a video-- and then all the sudden they changed half of their factory around to follow his idea. lol.. Pretty crazy.
I suspect I know approximately 98 percent of what Sandy feels. Satisfied.
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I'd say 90%+ annoyed and disappointed by the opportunity lost by those who saw it.
I love the Herbert Deiss comment. When I heard of his being pushed out of VW, my immediate reaction was seeing a disaster being implemented by the change. I got the impression VW is skeptical about EV's and they are going to pull a Toyota and bank on regulators to extend the electrification deadlines ad infinitum based upon their true inability to adapt in a more aggressive way. Deiss was holding the feet of the company to the fire on that score and they dumped him. Not good.
VW definitely isn't sceptical about EVs. They are sceptical about their bottom line as every other traditional automaker lol. Their hands are tied though, unlike Tesla's.
I'm skeptical of the change at VW. Herbert Deiss was realistic about the loss of jobs at VW, and the labor union reps on the VW Board really didn't like that. He didn't accumulate enough allies in the company and between that and delays at Cariad, VW's independent software division, holding up R&D of cars in other divisions, sealed his fate.
I agree. Thanks, Sandy, for giving Deiss a plug!!
ev is garbage, just more control for government
water powered and hydrogen powered is the only environmentally friendly engine, been around for decades but all patents denied.
Oliver Blume from Porsche is a EV fan too, but maybe not to the scale the Dr. Diess has
Cory and Sandy reunited and it feels so good. Love Sandy's assessment of good design and Herbert Deiss.
I had seen Anker products before and even owned one of their USB wall chargers, but I really didn't have a feel for whether they were worth the significant price premium... Seeing that you tore down their battery pack and still felt comfortable recommending it is a real vote of confidence!
I wish it weighed a lot less than 43 lbs.
Munro Live is going to be great for the future of manufacturing. There's a child or young adult watching this, who will develop a love for engineering and manufacturing, based on your content. We need more people thinking about manufacturing and less about law and finance. Thanks for everything you do.
When an engineer gets passionate, listen. That usually means it's one of those rare things that doesn't really have a technical trade off, and the only thing stopping us is bureaucracy.
Never seen Sandy so triggered!! This is pure passion of love for the work Munro carries out. Keep these videos coming, they're so informative and to the point !!! ♥️
but... what might come..
The more passion, the more marketing and evangelism, and the less engineering. That's why I do not like Sandy's claims too much (with strong opinions on good or bad), but I like the statements from the other team members at Munro way better, which are way more balanced and more profound, than Sandy's are.
You haven't watched him ranting about fasteners then..
we’re all haunted by what we’ll all see by the cybertruck...
“I’m not popular.” And that is why we love you Sandy. We need people like you that keep it straight.
Cory, you look like you have achieved a lean design yourself.
Cheers to the great video.
I noticed that too!
I would 😁
I was also wondering if i was the only one, well done cory 👏.
The latest casting looks like the Flinstones, simple and clean. No floor. Love it!
I almost always enjoy the Munro Live videos but once in while you hit something Sandy has a passionate opinion on and it is 🔥 :) Great job everyone!
In some videos like this he is on fire and he is able to transfer his passions super hard to the viewer
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Just about what i wanted to say. Couldn't have done it that well, though :-)
His passionate "opinion" sounds like marketing brainwash from IDRA to me. And continues with the endorsement of shaving blades or the Anker product here in this video.
For the casting: it is only successful, if other properties are in line with expectations as well: scrap rates of the cast pieces, acceptable quality with regard to blowholes/shrinkholes, low effort in post-treatment after a casting had been cast by the casting machine, handling efforts. It is only revolutionary and innovative, if it matches a number of these criteria, which he did not even mention. And in addition: whether the same casting can be put in Model 3 and Model, which likely isn't the case. So the large castings idea may match with some ways to build cars, but not with all of them, expecially when building many product lines in one factory. A true engineering standpoint would take that into account.
@@koeniglicher see you soon on that model 3 castings doubt ;) 2023.
"I'm not popular" - Sandy Munro. His intellectual honesty is exemplary and that's why we love this guy.
Great video and education. Those complain about crack fixing issue have no idea of how stiff the structure is. Every time you remove a join/bolt/weld and integrate two pieces in a continuous form, the stress transfer becomes more streamline and hence yields the structural rigidity. In short, more weld/join/bolt = higher risk of failure
Overstiff parts can mearly transfer the crack to another area.
@@andrewholdaway813 Agree with your point, that's why the engineers borrowed the power of FEA to simulate potential area of suspect for cracking if overstiffing issue exist and avoid it if not needed. Besides, the other factor is with the type of aluminum, which is more ductile than conventional aluminum. It has always been a tricky issue to balance stiffness and ductility for a structural part, not to mention ability to case...
"It takes several years to move a design for a car into production." ALL I.C.E. car makers
"As quick as our suppliers can deliver, we can change a car's production design - accomplished in MONTHS." Tesla
"Production improvements CAN be made at the speed of thought." Sandy Munro
Nice seeing the last three generations body in white side by side. The changes and improvement are striking.
Morning cup of coffee + Sandy Rant = A most excellent start to my Friday
Can you share the weight of each body in white?
It applies all through the production. Superfast Matt did a nice video on th differences between the original Model S handles, and the later ones. Part of the reason for the changes was early Tesla was not getting much response from the parts suppliers, but now when Tesla calls up, it's "Oh Hi! What can we do for you?" The newer handles are more sophisticated,, but much more reliable, and likely cheaper. Sandy has done lots on the superbottle, and then the Octovalve. It's all through the cars.
@@grahammonk8013 I saw a Jaguar iPace with a stuck out door handle today.
By far the best Anker sponsorship for this product. Really shows how much Anker is confident in their engineering.
This is a good example of disruptive technology and every engineer should watch this video. Total mind blowing! Thank you!
Every CEO should watch this video. Because I can guarantee you that the Chinese car companies are watching and rushing to catch up to Tesla. Lower costs mean you win in the long run and Chinese companies are very good at investing in the long run.
There is nothing disruptive about this lol…. Stop encouraging engineers to make less and less repairable vehicles and devices over and over again! When you go to the most remote places on earth you won’t see a car that was made entirely of single giant parts lol….
@@morrisg every CEO should not watch this tbh!
Disruptive hype.
@@morrisg The next step is to make the entire unibody as a single casting, that way after an accident you can scrap the entire vehicle instead of just half of it.
Awesome video. Sandy was fired up.
Tesla operates how artificial intelligence is supposed to operate. Faster iterations and progress than ever seen before. Constantly evolving.
Love this coverage and statements made in it. Thanks for brining up the damage to the casting since so many people fail to understand to damage the casting, you will be happy to walk out alive since you have crush cans etc to take most of the inertia.
The financial saving for the Giga castings is crazy, not just in part cost being cheaper but also logistics, chance of failure, quality check, molds for the small parts, workers, fixtures all cost A LOT of money.
I know! I've been having this argument with people for years. If the frame/underbody is bent, even in a traditionally-made car, the insurance is going to write that off as a loss, and send you a check. One of my first cars was a Honda Civic. I got into a accident, which *looked* pretty minor, but I bent in the undercarriage by the front passenger door, and the insurance company wrote me a $12k check. If you're in a bad enough collision to bend the frame, you're getting a new car either way, so the "repair cost" is a moot point; they will never be repaired.
@@AMortalDefiant The only way most people learn about this is from an accident. A wildly destroyed single part e.g. bumper cover is cheap to replace. Two slightly broken parts costs twice as much. A crushed fender is a common unbolt-replace repair. A very slight wrinkle in the C pillar means that something is bent beyond repair.
This is exactly why I love this company. The management actually listens. They take their ego out of the situation and simply do what is right to create the best product.
This is so rare.
An open mind is the best option if you're sending humans to Mars.
I love it when Sandy tells it like it is.
When does he do that
And... quite frankly.
Which is always!
@@levib
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I dont think he is capable to do otherwise.
Mr. Munro has all my respect as a teacher, good engineer(rare in those days) and a dedicated citizen of USA.
Sandy's (well founded) ranting about striving to improve and advance the state-of-the-art reminds me of Steve Jobs saying "If you don't cannibalise your own products, someone else will" in regards to questions about the future of the then cash-cow iPod after the introduction of the iPhone, which nobody at the time thought would take off like it did (Jobs included).
respect for the herbert diess shout-out.
one of the few forward-thinking leaders in the otherwise stagnant automotive space
Best line ever "but I'm not popular". Sandy and Cory - everyone loves your frank and unadultered honesty, please keep it coming, everyone is sick of the propaganda and MSM BS. You guys are the best.
It's good to stop saying "MSM" and start saying "corporate media". This shows more precisely rationale behind each news they push.
Cory, you truly have a knack for video production. Really has been fun watching you grow this channel. Thanks for your efforts!
Thanks Bill!
More change by Tesla in 5 years than the legacy auto companies have in the last 50
Because Tesla is run by engineers and not bean counters. To drive that point home, Elon fired 10% of the non factory floor admin employees (about 3% work force)
it's not like this concept was invented by Tesla... Audi did this so called Audi Space Frame Concept in the early 90's and some of this is still state of the art. It's a great concept, no question about it. But obvs. a much better marketing strategy.
Hands down your best video! Not because your glowing review of the Model Y castings, but the way you clearly articulate the differences between the 3 and the 2022 Y. You absolutely crushed it!
This is probably the best ever Monroe and Associates video I have ever seen !!
They are always interesting, but I'm not a qualified engineer (wish I was!) and they are sometimes a bit complicated. But this time with the presentation of the 4 bodyshells and their evolutionary journey in such a short time, I got it, I really properly got it.
Thank you both, Cory and Sandy - what a tag team - for giving me such a lesson that I will never allow myself to forget.
Sandy is hitting on all cylinders. Makes me delighted to see that the age of the mind is indeed separate and distinct from the aged skin and gray hair.
He is a brilliant man, full of the sort of career-spanning knowledge that makes all of his observations so cogent and important. Bravo and well done, sir!
Stock value - I have a friend who kept away from investing in Tesla while I just kept buying,, especially in the last dip. He did end up investing a few shares, but then sold according to his fancy charts. He just didn't understand how Tesla is different, and this is just the car business section, not to mention solar, software, AI, etc. Thanks Sandy for making this clear and convincing!
if your really want a deep dive in Tesla stock valuation, I suggest you head over and subscribe to Solving the Money Problem Steven Mark Ryan is a bit sarcastic but on the money with his analysis and why Tesla is the ONLY automotive stock to buy (unless you enjoy flushing your money down the toilet)
Tesla isnt diffrent!
I love seeing Sandy fired up. His passion is fantastic hard to believe many in the auto industry have the same enthusiasm. Great video.
Thanks Sandy.
I would short that Casting-fixing-thing to 1 point: If you have an accident and the casting is cracked and you get out of the car nearly uninjured, than be happy you are still alive and buy the next Tesla.
The force needed to crack the casting in case of an accident normally kills ppl.
Live saving is more worth than a giant piece of aluminium.
Absolutely. Safety and performance should be way ahead in consideration over repair-ability for that small percentage chance of having an accident where it's worse than a fender bender, but not having the car totaled. This is a feature that is a no brainier for any engineers.
Just like we've seen in electronics over the last several decades, integration brings about increased quality and lower prices with the trade-off being repairability - it's now almost always cheaper to buy a replacement device than the cost of labour to troubleshoot and repair it.
That's why you get insurance.
@@carsonj1 "The cars are still designed to be safe, they still have to pass the same standards and crash tests."
It's a different between passing a test and exceeding the requirements of the test.
@@peterzerfass4609 "That's why you get insurance."
No. That's why you buy safe car so you will survive.
Sandy's blown away-ness tells you everything about the state of the auto industry
maybe the best episode so far, was as live as it gets.
Sandys second tear down of a Tesla convinced me to buy the shares in 2019.
THANK YOU Sandy for changing my life !
pretty insane that Tesla can make these changes in such a short amount of time on a production vehicle.
One of the reason Tesla will not certify rebuilt old wrecks with particular VINs - the technology (and parts) used to manufacture them is obsolete and not available
Pretty insane that Tesla can make these changes in such a short time on a production vehicle and charge $15K more while reducing its manufacturing cost and time. Pretty insane indeed.
@@vipahman Pretty insane that there was just a global pandemic leading to serious supply chain issues and nobody seems to realize how that directly relates to cost and pricing of EVERYTHING.
@@vipahman It,s great for shareholders
NOT in any way claiming what TESLA is doing is easy, they are really clever AND at the right time AND with the Finances.
BUT
To change a legacy company might be IMPOSSIBLE, there is to much baggage
Probably the ONLY (Best?) way is how I understand Ford is doing it.
Start A NEW subsidiary, build that up while dismantling the old one...
You UNFORTUNATELY have to change a lot of skills, corporate culture and thereby people..
These castings make Sandy look like a child who FINALLY got his present that he always wanted haha, delightful sight!
told and explained the way all presentations should go..thank you sandy
Wow ! This is a moment in the history of auto manufacturing. Thank you Sandy and Cory & Associates.
Glad to see your company embracing change and growing its awesome to witness
So nice to hear Cost of Quality mentioned. Having been in the quality arena for 30 years, no one is so close to quality as Sandy. Also, process improvement is a large part of quality and no one exemplifies that better than Elon Musk and Tesla. Instead of Kaizen or TPS and step improvements, First Principles goes for the breakthrough process and is THE quality improvement methodology of the future. Sandy and Elon say so many quality related ideas such as reduced process steps, reduced parts, no spaghetti diagrams, Poka Yoke or mistake proof process, its just great! And Tesla has no problem with others seeing these videos because Elon has a mission to expand the knowledge, not hold tight to it. Thanks for the great presentation guys.
I know nothing about cars or metallurgy but I feel like "Peter Venkman" right now. It makes me smile to see the evolution of a car company, like Tesla, doing so much to make the world a safer place.
Just don't get slimed by listening to legacy OEMs talk about their automation investments.
@@spacegamer85 Unless we get a sample to examine.
I am very proud and happy to work in this department at the GFBB in Germany after hearing these words and your comments (Special thanks to the great man for this beautiful (explanation
Thanks for the teardown of the Anker battery and $200 off coupon, was looking for good, not cheap, battery pack like that size.
As an engineer this video is a breath of fresh air. Love Sandy's attitude and commentary.
Good video, really liked the support for Herbert Diess at the end. Too many people are tossed aside by corporations and it can be a kick in the gut. It's good to stand up for a good man when he's down.
Everybody wins with Good Design !
Very nice demonstration. Good to see Sandy back in front of the camera. It is things like the giga casting evoltion that 'analysts' miss when they place Tesla in the same category as legacy auto. More Sandy videos please.
Another great video from Munro! This video should be required viewing for all those involved in vehicle design, manufacture and management!
So many good quips in this one. Didn’t realize I subscribed to a comedy show
I feel like we've been waiting for this moment to arrive for more than 3 years and it shows Sandy is quite relieved/redeemed to see Tesla follow through so successfully.
This was great man. Loved Sandy's contributions especially, had to laugh a few times. Good to show props to Herbert Diess, one of the great!
I am an ex casting engineer at a Japanese car company. At my place, casting parts are mostly used in car engines and are under the responsibility of the engine group.
Meanwhile, the body group is responsible for the inside of the car body.
With Tesla's courage and great success in redesigning the car body, there is no doubt that all car manufacturers will follow suit in the next few years.
This could provide benefits to casting engineers wherever they are, as their needs will double or triple in the automotive industry.
You🥰 are 1 of a kind - love your honesty
Wow Cory and team really like how you lined up 3 generations of Telsa next to each other and let Sandy give a master class on car body design evolution. Well done. one of the best videos ever!
The progress is a great complement to both Munro and Tesla .
Engineers at legacy auto must watch these and weep, they know what needs to be done but the suits get in the way.
Hey Fred... so true! That's why I have NEVER appointed suits to any job in my company.
It’s the battle between MBAs and Engineers, at Tesla we know who won.
@@brunosmith6925 I personally avoid appointing sweatpants as well. They just sit in a corner all day sulking in their own stench.
@@philipstull7629 MBAs have ruined more companies that they have helped!
@@ganymede3141 In the 33 years since starting my own business, I have also learned to NEVER ask business advice from the following:
1. Accountants
2. Banks and any banking staff
3. Academics (especially ones with "business degrees").
Thanks for the short history lesson on Tesla's improvement process. It's a great motivation for engineers.
Tesla continues to raise the bar, push the envelope and disrupt. We will all benefit because of it. Love it. Thanks Sandy
I’ve missed Sandy’s enthusiasm. It’s good to see him in a video again.
These last two posts by Sandy should change the whole world. If they listen!!
It puts a new spin on a old saying:
Getting better every day.
Getting smarter everyday.
Great Job Munro Team
Spectacular Job Team Tesla
I just love watching Sandy. He is so smart and gets his points across so well.
Anker giving Sandy a product to rip apart is the most Op marketing move I've seen in a couple of years.
Agreed, good move by Anker indeed. I've move them up in my brand ranking regard based on this review. I've read good reviews about Anker for a few years, but a Munro kudo really moves the needle to the high side of regard for me.
5 star presentation on Tesla drive to be perfect, each time, every time. Extremely informative, clear, concise and to the point. JWD!
FINALLY, somebody knows and understands what innovation is!
The TESLA way is love at first sight!
Frustrating to see how most companies still work in 2020. Especially when you have to work for a Takumi engineer wanna-be!
Sandy, I guess we speak Swahili for them :-)
Love how you guys showed the drastic improvements they've made in manufacturing over such a short period of time.
Also, the bit about Herbert Diess at the end 🙌
Incredible work on part of tesla and idra. Revolutionary.
Enjoyed that, thanks. My grandfather worked as a brass moulder and my dad as a pattern maker in 100 ton cast iron butterfly water valves. What's going on here is different to what they taught me only the materials and tools have changed. It's fantastic to see this progress.
Love a good Sandy rant!
Thank you Team Munro😎
You guys make engineering interesting to the normies. Thanks
Well boys...this is the video that puts both of you guys out front as engineers who can discuss realities in design where Mr. Average and Mrs. Average car owners can understand the evolution of vehicles. Buckminster Fuller would be smiling, knowing you are getting there. Well done...keep up the good work!
Love your excitement. THE SPEED OF MUSK. This is historic. I own a model Y, X, and 3. Best vehicles in the world. Plus fill
Up at home with my solar panels. I have owned many exotic cars and previous gear head. Not any more
One of your best yet 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks, John!
OK - I am a retired GE Mechanical Engineer. I grew up in a garage/dealership. I am a “gear head”, just like you guys. I have been a student of Tesla. Here are some points to consider:
1) In 2012 there was a TH-cam video of a Model S showing a box (like a thick Domino’s pizza box), on the roof. In 2014, there was another video showing early FSD, and the two guys were driving on a small CA back road. They said oh look, there is a Nikola Tesla tower out in the middle of that field. The tower had an elongated base like the Statue of Liberty, and a slender stainless cone with a sphere on top. I guessed that the tower was 60-75 ft tall and the top ball was maybe 16-20 ft in diameter. My “gut” says that they were testing Nikola Tesla powering of the electric car!!! To me, the current EVs are just a stop gap, with their large batteries. If you have a constant flow of electricity coming into an electric car (EC), you will only need a small battery for dynamic braking/acceleration(like a hybrid battery). There has also been some conspiracy information saying that the power distribution will be performed by the Starlink Satellites. Internet will be a sub frequency of the Quantum Resonance. The ECs will be vastly simplistic.
2) In ~2019, Elon made a number of diecast kids Model 3 cars. Why did he do this??? I think, he wanted to see what painted/wrapped surfaces looked like for future ECs. Last year, he took bails of recycled aluminum cans, smelted them and added in his alloys, AND produced billets for the Giga Presses. So I see a small car (Model 2) that has 4 main castings(skateboard/left side//right side/roof with roll bars) and numerous small castings, that make the entire body. What if there are NO stamped metal parts?? Body cost would be about 10-15% of current cost!!! Mostly robotic assembly, maybe NO welding. His Model 3 dreams just might be realized!!!
3) One of the first jobs that his new robots will tackle are installing wiring harnesses. Expect roof harnesses to be installed prior to the body being assembled, along with the entire dash, plus fire walls. The skateboard will have wiring harness, seats and console, just like the current battery pack. What if the body castings are painted/wrapped, cast doors are hung(with panel inserts) to the left and right sides, the hood and trunk/hatch are hung to the roof casting; and the entire car is assembled by bolting these major castings together. Then plastic panels are snapped in place covering the bolts. Four major casting assemblies form 98% of the finished car, except for plugging together wiring harnesses. Just a thought...
I love these. Could watch all day.
Hi Sandy, always love your channel with all this innovative info!
Thanks, Bert!
If Sandy is a fan of large structural automotive castings, he would absolutely love what I’ve come up with. I can do a nearly complete body in white with 3 gigacastings, 4 extrusions, and 2 floor stampings. The doors and lift gate structures would also be gigacast with injection molded plastic skins inside and out. Assembly would be very simple with thermal slip fit techniques along with snap fit panels and a handful of interior fasteners to prevent attempted disassembly from outside the vehicle.
That horse analogy was... umm.. Try to avoid analogies all together, especially when you have such a great prop in front of you. Love you guys. Sandy is great. Corey is awesome.
Well yeah i kinda understand him what he tried to say. Its evolutionary design. :D Crocodile design works as it is and is nothing wrong with that. Same for car wipers. Its design dint really change for 80 yrs really. Because it works. SO yeah he fumbled explanation.
Yup. As someone who's deeply studied evolution by natural selection and Charles Darwin's works, I can only say - avert your eyes folks, move it along, nothing to see here. It would take a page and a half to work thru the kinks in Sandy's analogies.
@@alesksander On a tangential/pedantic point, Google suggests windscreen wipers were invented in 1902, so it was only 62 years before the invention of the intermittent wipers by Robert Kearns in 1964. The Wikipedia entry for him is an interesting read. Unfortunately the "Flash of Genius" movie about his invention and the subsequent lawsuits is somewhat tedious and boring.
Absolutely love Sandy Munro's take on the giga castings. He is so right and his passionate discussion on the Tesla innovations make me very positive about Tesla/TSLA and its future!
Sandy is doing his best to save the US car industry by being crystal clear about what’s needed! I believe, however, he sees the Chinese automakers as being far ahead and annihilating the US car industry as it is now.
Fantastic video, great to see Sandy so passionate and almost in awe at the pace and increase of innovation at Tesla, thanks to both of you, and the rest of Lean Design, for all you do and sharing it with us here :)
It turns out Cory is not just an excellent engineer / consultant BUT can also have fun! Sandy's message, backed up by a quote from Dr. Deming, was perfect. Excellent work!
Love having guys like sandy around love the work man .. elon single handedly changed the industry ..im sure everyone who adopts this will save in the long run while increasing the build quality of the their cars ...
I still think the cross-car beam of the battery, on which the seats sit, should be part of the body structure, and the battery inverter should be under the hood. The battery would still form the floor and the cross-car beam will give it more attachment points. These changes simplify the rear casting a little, and the assembly line workers can stand either side of the cross-car beam to do installations. The front and rear seats, the console, wiring harnesses and carpet can be installed before the battery is installed. Honda has a fold up rear seat in some of its vehicles. The space under the rear seat can be storage for driver/passengers.
🤗THANKS SANDY,CORY,ERIC FOR A MIND-BLOWING EPISODE 🤯🤯👍
And ALL YOUR STAFF doing all the behind the scenes work 😅 and the patrons for supporting you 😍😍😍
Our pleasure!
If we review the past videos (and this one), Sandy was the first to suggest the casting idea and started pushing it many years ago. Take a bow Sandy!
Sandy: "I'm not popular."
Also Sandy: *has 310,000+ subscribers of curious engineers, company members and ordinary people like me*
Yes, but he does not follow popular culture. I have a saying "popular does not equal relevant", often it is quite the contrary. Popular means that people don't think: They do something (lemming style) because a lot of other people are doing, the more people, the more they want to do it. Most of these people don't think, the popularity alone is the only recommendation needed. Critical smart thinkers question things and have opinions and conclusions that don't agree with the popular opinion. I don't care how many people agree with me, because my logic and deductive reasoning does not need a majority vote to make sense and be relevant and compelling.
I was proud of American ingenuity throughout this video. You are clearly the advisors a genius chooses to listen to. You share in the Tesla story. You share in the the story of every future auto made from these giga castings. Thank you for your service.
That was inspiring. Sandy was clearly excited to show Tesla's engineering advances, but at the same time he's trying to tell legacy auto that the time is now to implement change. I hope they listen.
Yeah make only two car models and improve them and call it inspiring!? Wtf!!!!! Call me tesla can make everything from double decker bus to commercial vehicles! Vans, trucks, armoured vehicles…….
I’m new to the EV world but so glad to have found this channel! I have a model 3 on order and I’m so excited for it. Sandy is such a great man! Thank you!
The advantage of having one well designed part instead of many smaller is clear. However that is a great challange for foundries to achive homogeneous quality in such a big casting (means not to loose the money due to high level of scrap). HPDC is really complex process. Trust me, I'm an engineer 😉😁
Great good guys thank you and thanks for giving Herbert a shout out!
Any other car companies would take a decade to get this much changes to happen, maybe more. Even if the culture is there (which there isn't), there are just too many factories building cars the old way.
Getting parts from a catalogue and combined them, is not building. Teslas approach to build the process of the machine that makes the machine is the right one if you talk about a true fabrication process developer. Remember, the car is not the product, the manufacturing process is the product. The other car companies are just lego players.
@@LosZonga that’s some good insight
@@LosZonga Of course the car is the product. It's what the manafacturing process produces. The product.
@@richardraymond878 Actually, Tesla is reinventing the manufacturing process. That is their real competitive advantage. Part of that is a manufacturing process that allows for production changes in parallel. They can implement more design or production changes in a week than other car makers can do in a year. And that is just one example. Car makers assume the product is the car. They just buy parts and robots off the shelf. Tesla realized the product is the manufacturing process. They build the machine that makes the machine. They will apply that product to all kinds of things. Robots, HVAC, and countless other things we buy. Tesla has changed manufacturing in a way we can only begin to understand. This is much bigger than what Henry Ford did with the assemble line.
@@donm2255 Not entirely true. VW and Toyota build far more cars per year than Tesla and both those companies treat their platforms and manufacturing processes as products. Mitsubishi, Fiat and VW will even sell you an entire auto factory and help train people on how to run it. Both Toyota's TNGA platform and VW's family of "modular matrix" platforms allow them to build many variants of many cars, at different price points with minimum R&D overhead and time-to-market, using everything they have already. Tesla is doing something new because they have the luxury of doing so, but they aren't going to be the only company using gigacasting. Both Polestar and VW's new BEV factories will both employ the use of giant castings as well